Lila Garner wrote: > > I forgot about "challenged" and can take that route. I regularly upload my database to Rootsweb, both as a way to get info out and as a backup. But "challenged will take care of it. I think Amanda, the baby, is Nancy's child. > > The Tennessee to Illinois to Georgia to Tennessee is not surprising for this family: lore says that William was born in Illinois, Georgia, Kentucky and Tennessee! Next door in 1860 is a Denton family, and their children, approximately the same ages, are born in Illinois, Missouri and Tennessee, both parents born Tennessee. Young Mrs. Denton was probably a Daffron. We find that Joel died in Kentucky so that's what brought Kentucky into the lore. William died in 1902 when his children weren't very old, so the lore was stale and third-hand by the time it got to me. > Your knowledge of your family is much greater than mine on your family, of course. Still, if it were my family, I'd really really want to see the breadcrumbs. Generally, migration would go west, northwest or southwest. For a family to go west (from South Carolina) then North into Illinois is possible. That they then turned around two years later and went south from Illinois to Georgia where they waited another two years to turn North again to Tennessee wants an explanation beyond wanderlust. When you toss in Missouri and Arkansas -- the WHY needs an answer ... it's not _impossible_ just unlikely enough to need copious documentation. > William age 18 is in Floyd County, Georgia, living with the William Terry family (no known relationship) in 1870. By 1876, he marries in Clark county, Arkansas and remains there until his death. > > Amanda is a 10-year-old servant to a physician in 1870 and is a niece to William Denton in 1880. She married George Frazier in 1881 but I can't find them by 1900. > > The other children cannot be found in 1870 and 1880. Lore says William was orphaned by the CW. I suspect that Nancy and the other children died, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find that out. The fact that Amanda is not living with family at age 10 indicates that the family is not intact even without the father, who died in 1861. > DID a William die in the war? Many Georgia CW records are said to be on-line from the Ga. Archives; certainly the CWSS project pages will tell you if William served. Maybe Julia has additional ideas here? Good luck.

Did you notice that in 1850 Census, just above your Joel Daffron (age 20) and Mary (age 18), is the family of Jonathan Denton (age 58? and Elizabeth (age 58) Jonas (age 32) and Isaac (age 14). This matches the Elizabeth Denton (age 67) living with Joel Dauphin (age 35) in 1860 census. However, notice next person listed after Elizabeth is William Denton (age 37) with Martha (age 47). So was she living with Joel Dauphin or William Denton? Julia In a message dated 12/6/2010 7:27:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, singhals@erols.com writes: Lila Garner wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > Someone has helped me find my William Dafford after a 25-year search. He knew his name was "not exactly right" but there is enough evidence to connect him to Joel Daffron. Joel "Dauphin" is found on the 1850 census of Hamilton county, Tennessee; Joel "Doffin" in 1860 (I've added the variations on the indexes at Ancestry.) > > Joel had a wife Mary 18, born Tennessee, literate, in 1850. > > William was 8 in 1860, and Joel now had a non-literate wife Nancy, 25, born Tennessee. > > 1860, Hamilton County, Tennessee > Joel 35 born Tennessee > Nancy 25 born Tennessee > William 8 born Illinois (mine--we knew he was born in Illinois) > Isaac 5 born Georgia > Elizabeth 4 born Tennessee > Amanda 6/12 born Tennessee > Elizabeth Denton 67 born Tennessee > > The Hamilton county courthouse burned and there are no marriage records available, nor probate etc. There are deeds and I'm going to order them tomorrow. > > How will I decide which children belong to Mary and which to Nancy? Nothing in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index works. Naturally I'd like Nancy to be William's mother because, with the Denton lady in the house, it's a clue that Nancy *may* have been a Denton. > > I'd really like to enter William's siblings (and/or half-siblings) into PAF, but I don't know which wife to give them to. > > Lila So, like what you are going to DO with the data once it's in PAF? That affects whether what I'm about to say will work for you or not. IF the only thing you're putting into the database is what you intend to take to Temple (if you're LDS) or what you've proven with an affadavit from St. Peter (if you're not LDS), just click NEXT or DELE now. If you're using your database as I do for a filing system (g), this will at least get everyone in there: Attach all children to the first wife (because she's the one who will appear first all the time in PAF), then the ones you have some serious questions about, mark the parent link as CHALLENGED. On Daddy, each wife, and each child, put into the NOTES the following statement : "Until it can be determined which wife bore which child, for the convenience of the genealogist, all children are listed with the first marriage. As the parents are proven, the correction will be made." Then, for giggles, check the 1870 and 1880 census for everyone. I gotta tell you Tennessee to Illinois to Georgia to Tennessee is a bit peculiar. Ms. Denton could as easily be Dad's maiden aunt or a 3rd cousin twice removed as his mother-in-law. FWIW Cheryl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I forgot about "challenged" and can take that route. I regularly upload my database to Rootsweb, both as a way to get info out and as a backup. But "challenged will take care of it. I think Amanda, the baby, is Nancy's child. The Tennessee to Illinois to Georgia to Tennessee is not surprising for this family: lore says that William was born in Illinois, Georgia, Kentucky and Tennessee! Next door in 1860 is a Denton family, and their children, approximately the same ages, are born in Illinois, Missouri and Tennessee, both parents born Tennessee. Young Mrs. Denton was probably a Daffron. We find that Joel died in Kentucky so that's what brought Kentucky into the lore. William died in 1902 when his children weren't very old, so the lore was stale and third-hand by the time it got to me. William age 18 is in Floyd County, Georgia, living with the William Terry family (no known relationship) in 1870. By 1876, he marries in Clark county, Arkansas and remains there until his death. Amanda is a 10-year-old servant to a physician in 1870 and is a niece to William Denton in 1880. She married George Frazier in 1881 but I can't find them by 1900. The other children cannot be found in 1870 and 1880. Lore says William was orphaned by the CW. I suspect that Nancy and the other children died, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find that out. The fact that Amanda is not living with family at age 10 indicates that the family is not intact even without the father, who died in 1861. Thanks -- I needed a sounding board. Lila > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 19:25:38 -0500 > From: singhals@erols.com > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Inderminate mother > > Lila Garner wrote: > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > Someone has helped me find my William Dafford after a 25-year search. He knew his name was "not exactly right" but there is enough evidence to connect him to Joel Daffron. Joel "Dauphin" is found on the 1850 census of Hamilton county, Tennessee; Joel "Doffin" in 1860 (I've added the variations on the indexes at Ancestry.) > > > > Joel had a wife Mary 18, born Tennessee, literate, in 1850. > > > > William was 8 in 1860, and Joel now had a non-literate wife Nancy, 25, born Tennessee. > > > > 1860, Hamilton County, Tennessee > > Joel 35 born Tennessee > > Nancy 25 born Tennessee > > William 8 born Illinois (mine--we knew he was born in Illinois) > > Isaac 5 born Georgia > > Elizabeth 4 born Tennessee > > Amanda 6/12 born Tennessee > > Elizabeth Denton 67 born Tennessee > > > > The Hamilton county courthouse burned and there are no marriage records available, nor probate etc. There are deeds and I'm going to order them tomorrow. > > > > How will I decide which children belong to Mary and which to Nancy? Nothing in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index works. Naturally I'd like Nancy to be William's mother because, with the Denton lady in the house, it's a clue that Nancy *may* have been a Denton. > > > > I'd really like to enter William's siblings (and/or half-siblings) into PAF, but I don't know which wife to give them to. > > > > Lila > > So, like what you are going to DO with the data once it's in > PAF? That affects whether what I'm about to say will work > for you or not. > > IF the only thing you're putting into the database is what > you intend to take to Temple (if you're LDS) or what you've > proven with an affadavit from St. Peter (if you're not LDS), > just click NEXT or DELE now. > > If you're using your database as I do for a filing system > (g), this will at least get everyone in there: > > Attach all children to the first wife (because she's the one > who will appear first all the time in PAF), then the ones > you have some serious questions about, mark the parent link > as CHALLENGED. On Daddy, each wife, and each child, put > into the NOTES the following statement : "Until it can be > determined which wife bore which child, for the convenience > of the genealogist, all children are listed with the first > marriage. As the parents are proven, the correction will be > made." > > Then, for giggles, check the 1870 and 1880 census for > everyone. I gotta tell you Tennessee to Illinois to Georgia > to Tennessee is a bit peculiar. Ms. Denton could as easily > be Dad's maiden aunt or a 3rd cousin twice removed as his > mother-in-law. > > FWIW > > Cheryl

Hi Listers, Someone has helped me find my William Dafford after a 25-year search. He knew his name was "not exactly right" but there is enough evidence to connect him to Joel Daffron. Joel "Dauphin" is found on the 1850 census of Hamilton county, Tennessee; Joel "Doffin" in 1860 (I've added the variations on the indexes at Ancestry.) Joel had a wife Mary 18, born Tennessee, literate, in 1850. William was 8 in 1860, and Joel now had a non-literate wife Nancy, 25, born Tennessee. 1860, Hamilton County, Tennessee Joel 35 born Tennessee Nancy 25 born Tennessee William 8 born Illinois (mine--we knew he was born in Illinois) Isaac 5 born Georgia Elizabeth 4 born Tennessee Amanda 6/12 born Tennessee Elizabeth Denton 67 born Tennessee The Hamilton county courthouse burned and there are no marriage records available, nor probate etc. There are deeds and I'm going to order them tomorrow. How will I decide which children belong to Mary and which to Nancy? Nothing in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index works. Naturally I'd like Nancy to be William's mother because, with the Denton lady in the house, it's a clue that Nancy *may* have been a Denton. I'd really like to enter William's siblings (and/or half-siblings) into PAF, but I don't know which wife to give them to. Lila

Lila Garner wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > Someone has helped me find my William Dafford after a 25-year search. He knew his name was "not exactly right" but there is enough evidence to connect him to Joel Daffron. Joel "Dauphin" is found on the 1850 census of Hamilton county, Tennessee; Joel "Doffin" in 1860 (I've added the variations on the indexes at Ancestry.) > > Joel had a wife Mary 18, born Tennessee, literate, in 1850. > > William was 8 in 1860, and Joel now had a non-literate wife Nancy, 25, born Tennessee. > > 1860, Hamilton County, Tennessee > Joel 35 born Tennessee > Nancy 25 born Tennessee > William 8 born Illinois (mine--we knew he was born in Illinois) > Isaac 5 born Georgia > Elizabeth 4 born Tennessee > Amanda 6/12 born Tennessee > Elizabeth Denton 67 born Tennessee > > The Hamilton county courthouse burned and there are no marriage records available, nor probate etc. There are deeds and I'm going to order them tomorrow. > > How will I decide which children belong to Mary and which to Nancy? Nothing in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index works. Naturally I'd like Nancy to be William's mother because, with the Denton lady in the house, it's a clue that Nancy *may* have been a Denton. > > I'd really like to enter William's siblings (and/or half-siblings) into PAF, but I don't know which wife to give them to. > > Lila So, like what you are going to DO with the data once it's in PAF? That affects whether what I'm about to say will work for you or not. IF the only thing you're putting into the database is what you intend to take to Temple (if you're LDS) or what you've proven with an affadavit from St. Peter (if you're not LDS), just click NEXT or DELE now. If you're using your database as I do for a filing system (g), this will at least get everyone in there: Attach all children to the first wife (because she's the one who will appear first all the time in PAF), then the ones you have some serious questions about, mark the parent link as CHALLENGED. On Daddy, each wife, and each child, put into the NOTES the following statement : "Until it can be determined which wife bore which child, for the convenience of the genealogist, all children are listed with the first marriage. As the parents are proven, the correction will be made." Then, for giggles, check the 1870 and 1880 census for everyone. I gotta tell you Tennessee to Illinois to Georgia to Tennessee is a bit peculiar. Ms. Denton could as easily be Dad's maiden aunt or a 3rd cousin twice removed as his mother-in-law. FWIW Cheryl

Thanks, Bruce! I'll be at the FHC Thursday and I'll do my best to remember to take this CD! [if nothing else, the FHC has broadband and I don't!] Cheryl RootsMagic wrote: > Just download the free RootsMagic Essentials. It will import the old > FTM file and extract the pictures and link to them. You can then > export the file to a GEDCOM to import into PAF. > > http://www.rootsmagic.com/essentials > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: >> Guys'n'gals -- >> >> I have an OLD cd that has an OLD copy of someone else's OLD >> FTM file with images. >> >> I also have a new Win7 box. The copy of FTM I have won't >> install on WIN7. >> >> There is no way to get a newer copy of the file unless I can >> get into this one. >> >> Will anything else open it and allow me to extract/detach >> the images in the scrapbooks so I can get into my PAF file >> on the family? And, not incidentally, to verify what this >> person sent me is sourced to him? >> >> Cheryl

Confirm -----Original Message----- From: paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paf-5-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of singhals Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:19 PM To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] FTM help Thanks, Bruce! I'll be at the FHC Thursday and I'll do my best to remember to take this CD! [if nothing else, the FHC has broadband and I don't!] Cheryl RootsMagic wrote: > Just download the free RootsMagic Essentials. It will import the old > FTM file and extract the pictures and link to them. You can then > export the file to a GEDCOM to import into PAF. > > http://www.rootsmagic.com/essentials > > - Bruce > http://www.rootsmagic.com > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: >> Guys'n'gals -- >> >> I have an OLD cd that has an OLD copy of someone else's OLD >> FTM file with images. >> >> I also have a new Win7 box. The copy of FTM I have won't >> install on WIN7. >> >> There is no way to get a newer copy of the file unless I can >> get into this one. >> >> Will anything else open it and allow me to extract/detach >> the images in the scrapbooks so I can get into my PAF file >> on the family? And, not incidentally, to verify what this >> person sent me is sourced to him? >> >> Cheryl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guys'n'gals -- I have an OLD cd that has an OLD copy of someone else's OLD FTM file with images. I also have a new Win7 box. The copy of FTM I have won't install on WIN7. There is no way to get a newer copy of the file unless I can get into this one. Will anything else open it and allow me to extract/detach the images in the scrapbooks so I can get into my PAF file on the family? And, not incidentally, to verify what this person sent me is sourced to him? Cheryl

Just download the free RootsMagic Essentials. It will import the old FTM file and extract the pictures and link to them. You can then export the file to a GEDCOM to import into PAF. http://www.rootsmagic.com/essentials - Bruce http://www.rootsmagic.com On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > Guys'n'gals -- > > I have an OLD cd that has an OLD copy of someone else's OLD > FTM file with images. > > I also have a new Win7 box.  The copy of FTM I have won't > install on WIN7. > > There is no way to get a newer copy of the file unless I can > get into this one. > > Will anything else open it and allow me to extract/detach > the images in the scrapbooks so I can get into my PAF file > on the family?  And, not incidentally, to verify what this > person sent me is sourced to him? > > Cheryl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Earl, Yes, that is exactly it. You have a list of all of the people in your database who are not related to you in any way. Bill -- website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Earl Park <parkj052@hawaii.rr.com> wrote: > Aloha Bill, > I have been following this thread and have done what your suggestion was > Bill, but I just want to be clear on what I have. > > This produces a report that will list all the people in my data base that > are NOT related to me or linked in some way to "my" family chart. Is this > correct? > I do not know if you helped Cheryl but this might have helped me, ha... > > Let me know if I understand what it is I have, ha.. > Earl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Buchanan" <genealogistbuchanan@gmail.com> > To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Forest for PAF5? > > > > Cheryl, > > Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased > > with > > the results: > > File menu > Print Reports > Custom > Select (with yourself highlighted) > > All > >> Select > All Related > Deselect > OK > OK > > (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields > Surname,given ">" RIN > ">" > > Birth Date ">" Birth Place ">" OK (or whatever fields you want to > include) > > checkmark Print to File > > Print > > Give the file a name and location, and click Save. > > NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you > > can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the > > simpler version first. > > > > -- > > > > Bill > > website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com > > blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > > > >> What I'm after, as 2nd or 3rd choice from what I /really/ > >> want, is a list of all those who are NOT attached to the > >> main tree. And I have never-ever even in PAF2 gotten the > >> NOT filter to work properly,..it insists on omitting people > >> who ought to be there and picking up a few who ought-not. > >> > >> Cheryl > >> > >> Bill Buchanan wrote: > >> > Cheryl, > >> > > >> > In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone > related > >> to > >> > someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> singhals wrote: > >> >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: > >> >>>> Cheryl, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I remember that old PAF utility program. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, > >> but > >> >> in > >> >>>> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also > >> >> allows > >> >>>> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF > >> files. > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Great, Thanks, Bill! > >> >>> > >> >>> I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... > >> >>> > >> >>> I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be > >> >>> 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need > >> >>> to find all the shards and shreds! > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheryl > >> >> > >> >> Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, > >> >> its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of > >> >> those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a > >> >> seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were > >> >> saplings, with only two people in. > >> >> > >> >> But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people > >> >> in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. > >> >> > >> >> Maybe I should make cookies instead. > >> >> > >> >> Cheryl > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3289 - Release Date: 11/30/10 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, that's what I was wanting to do, Earl. Now, if only I remember this next time I want to do something similar ... Cheryl Earl Park wrote: > Aloha Bill, > I have been following this thread and have done what your suggestion was > Bill, but I just want to be clear on what I have. > > This produces a report that will list all the people in my data base that > are NOT related to me or linked in some way to "my" family chart. Is this > correct? > I do not know if you helped Cheryl but this might have helped me, ha... > > Let me know if I understand what it is I have, ha.. > Earl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Buchanan"<genealogistbuchanan@gmail.com> > To:<paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Forest for PAF5? > > >> Cheryl, >> Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased >> with >> the results: >> File menu> Print Reports> Custom> Select (with yourself highlighted) >> All >>> Select> All Related> Deselect> OK> OK >> (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields> Surname,given ">" RIN">" >> Birth Date ">" Birth Place">" OK (or whatever fields you want to include) >> checkmark Print to File >> Print >> Give the file a name and location, and click Save. >> NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you >> can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the >> simpler version first. >> >> -- >> >> Bill >> website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com >> blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: >> >>> What I'm after, as 2nd or 3rd choice from what I /really/ >>> want, is a list of all those who are NOT attached to the >>> main tree. And I have never-ever even in PAF2 gotten the >>> NOT filter to work properly,..it insists on omitting people >>> who ought to be there and picking up a few who ought-not. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >>>> Cheryl, >>>> >>>> In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone related >>> to >>>> someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> singhals wrote: >>>>>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >>>>>>> Cheryl, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember that old PAF utility program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, >>> but >>>>> in >>>>>>> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also >>>>> allows >>>>>>> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF >>> files. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Great, Thanks, Bill! >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be >>>>>> 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need >>>>>> to find all the shards and shreds! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>> >>>>> Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, >>>>> its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of >>>>> those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a >>>>> seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were >>>>> saplings, with only two people in. >>>>> >>>>> But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people >>>>> in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I should make cookies instead. >>>>> >>>>> Cheryl

Bill Buchanan wrote: > Cheryl, > Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased with > the results: > File menu> Print Reports> Custom> Select (with yourself highlighted) All >> Select> All Related> Deselect> OK> OK > (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields> Surname,given ">" RIN">" > Birth Date ">" Birth Place">" OK (or whatever fields you want to include) > checkmark Print to File > Print > Give the file a name and location, and click Save. > NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you > can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the > simpler version first. > OK ... at the rtf level it gave me a list. (g) That's further than I've gotten before with the project! Thanks. I'll now go back and print it again with more fields into a csv and see if that gets me where I think I want to go ... Thanks, again, Bill! Cheryl

(G) One batch of cookies chilling in the 'fridge so I can slice them, and a 2nd one cooling on the rack so I can cut them into bars ... I've got 10 or 15 minutes. Don't go 'way, now.... Bill Buchanan wrote: > Cheryl, > Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased with > the results: > File menu> Print Reports> Custom> Select (with yourself highlighted) All >> Select> All Related> Deselect> OK> OK > (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields> Surname,given ">" RIN">" > Birth Date ">" Birth Place">" OK (or whatever fields you want to include) > checkmark Print to File > Print > Give the file a name and location, and click Save. > NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you > can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the > simpler version first. >

What I'm after, as 2nd or 3rd choice from what I /really/ want, is a list of all those who are NOT attached to the main tree. And I have never-ever even in PAF2 gotten the NOT filter to work properly,..it insists on omitting people who ought to be there and picking up a few who ought-not. Cheryl Bill Buchanan wrote: > Cheryl, > > In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone related to > someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. > > Bill > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: > >> singhals wrote: >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >>>> Cheryl, >>>> >>>> I remember that old PAF utility program. >>>> >>>> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, but >> in >>>> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also >> allows >>>> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF files. >>>> >>> >>> Great, Thanks, Bill! >>> >>> I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... >>> >>> I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be >>> 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need >>> to find all the shards and shreds! >>> >>> Cheryl >> >> Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, >> its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of >> those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a >> seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were >> saplings, with only two people in. >> >> But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people >> in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. >> >> Maybe I should make cookies instead. >> >> Cheryl

Cheryl, Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased with the results: File menu > Print Reports > Custom > Select (with yourself highlighted) All > Select > All Related > Deselect > OK > OK (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields > Surname,given ">" RIN ">" Birth Date ">" Birth Place ">" OK (or whatever fields you want to include) checkmark Print to File Print Give the file a name and location, and click Save. NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the simpler version first. -- Bill website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > What I'm after, as 2nd or 3rd choice from what I /really/ > want, is a list of all those who are NOT attached to the > main tree. And I have never-ever even in PAF2 gotten the > NOT filter to work properly,..it insists on omitting people > who ought to be there and picking up a few who ought-not. > > Cheryl > > Bill Buchanan wrote: > > Cheryl, > > > > In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone related > to > > someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. > > > > Bill > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: > > > >> singhals wrote: > >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: > >>>> Cheryl, > >>>> > >>>> I remember that old PAF utility program. > >>>> > >>>> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, > but > >> in > >>>> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also > >> allows > >>>> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF > files. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Great, Thanks, Bill! > >>> > >>> I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... > >>> > >>> I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be > >>> 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need > >>> to find all the shards and shreds! > >>> > >>> Cheryl > >> > >> Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, > >> its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of > >> those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a > >> seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were > >> saplings, with only two people in. > >> > >> But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people > >> in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. > >> > >> Maybe I should make cookies instead. > >> > >> Cheryl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Aloha Bill, I have been following this thread and have done what your suggestion was Bill, but I just want to be clear on what I have. This produces a report that will list all the people in my data base that are NOT related to me or linked in some way to "my" family chart. Is this correct? I do not know if you helped Cheryl but this might have helped me, ha... Let me know if I understand what it is I have, ha.. Earl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Buchanan" <genealogistbuchanan@gmail.com> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Forest for PAF5? > Cheryl, > Try this, it will take 5 or 10 minutes, but I think you will be pleased > with > the results: > File menu > Print Reports > Custom > Select (with yourself highlighted) > All >> Select > All Related > Deselect > OK > OK > (back on the Reports and Charts screen) Fields > Surname,given ">" RIN ">" > Birth Date ">" Birth Place ">" OK (or whatever fields you want to include) > checkmark Print to File > Print > Give the file a name and location, and click Save. > NOTE: If you use "Print to Comma Delimited File" instead of "Print", you > can open the output file in Excel and sort it on any column. But try the > simpler version first. > > -- > > Bill > website: http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com > blog: http://billbuchanan.blogspot.com > > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:47 AM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > >> What I'm after, as 2nd or 3rd choice from what I /really/ >> want, is a list of all those who are NOT attached to the >> main tree. And I have never-ever even in PAF2 gotten the >> NOT filter to work properly,..it insists on omitting people >> who ought to be there and picking up a few who ought-not. >> >> Cheryl >> >> Bill Buchanan wrote: >> > Cheryl, >> > >> > In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone related >> to >> > someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals<singhals@erols.com> wrote: >> > >> >> singhals wrote: >> >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >> >>>> Cheryl, >> >>>> >> >>>> I remember that old PAF utility program. >> >>>> >> >>>> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, >> but >> >> in >> >>>> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also >> >> allows >> >>>> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF >> files. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> Great, Thanks, Bill! >> >>> >> >>> I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... >> >>> >> >>> I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be >> >>> 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need >> >>> to find all the shards and shreds! >> >>> >> >>> Cheryl >> >> >> >> Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, >> >> its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of >> >> those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a >> >> seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were >> >> saplings, with only two people in. >> >> >> >> But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people >> >> in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. >> >> >> >> Maybe I should make cookies instead. >> >> >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3289 - Release Date: 11/30/10 >

Cheryl, In PAF you should be able to create a custom report of everyone related to someone in the tree you are interested in, and print it out. Bill On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > singhals wrote: > > Bill Buchanan wrote: > >> Cheryl, > >> > >> I remember that old PAF utility program. > >> > >> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, but > in > >> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also > allows > >> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF files. > >> > > > > Great, Thanks, Bill! > > > > I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... > > > > I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be > > 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need > > to find all the shards and shreds! > > > > Cheryl > > Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, > its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of > those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a > seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were > saplings, with only two people in. > > But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people > in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. > > Maybe I should make cookies instead. > > Cheryl > > >

singhals wrote: > Bill Buchanan wrote: >> Cheryl, >> >> I remember that old PAF utility program. >> >> FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, but in >> any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also allows >> you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF files. >> > > Great, Thanks, Bill! > > I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... > > I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be > 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need > to find all the shards and shreds! > > Cheryl Lord Have Mercy! FAMI found 229 separate "trees"!! OTOH, its definition of "tree" seems a bit generous, as some of those trees had only one person, which sounds more like a seedling than a tree to me. (g) A lot of others were saplings, with only two people in. But then, I couldn't make FAMI give me a printed list people in each of the trees...or even of all the trees. Maybe I should make cookies instead. Cheryl

Bill Buchanan wrote: > Cheryl, > > I remember that old PAF utility program. > > FamilyInsight or PAF Insight will do this. It calls them pedigrees, but in > any case it shows the separate family trees in a PAF file. It also allows > you to do better merges and to compare and synch 2 different PAF files. > Great, Thanks, Bill! I couldn't remember if it were PAFI or Legacy or what ... I took some advice that sounded good and turned out to be 4-day-old fish. I need to fix it somehow, but first I need to find all the shards and shreds! Cheryl

For those of you who haven't a clue what it is, hit NEXT now. For those of you who /do/ know what I mean ... did anyone ever figure a work-around to get this out of PAF5? If not, which utility or other program will do it for me? Tnx. Cheryl