Regarding scanning large objects. I recently had a local architectural copy service scan 3600+ court house documents. They did it on a large format photocopying machine. They scanned the documents that could be loaded into the auto feed mechanism for one cent each. If the document was in poor condition as some of them were and therefore might be damaged by loading them in this manner, the charge was merely an hourly fee for the time it took the worker to hand place them on the glass. They saved them to my thumb drive from their server. We had all of those documents scanned to PDF for about $80. For anyone who wishes additional details about this project, please contact me off list, Ellen

My two cents: I don't think there is much demand for large scans. How many people actually have large documents (larger than US Letter) of any type? The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a newspaper page; and 11x17 wouldn't cover that. For several years I had a scanner that would do (US) legal size. I don't recall ever scanning anything that size. 99% of my scans are of photographs, usually around 5x7 or smaller. I think of the "resolution of a regular scanner" as being either 300dpi or 600dpi. This is more than adequate for just about any document. A 24bit color scan at 600dpi of a 4x6 photo can easily be over 50MB. In the back of my mind is the notion that if I really needed a large document scanned that I could get it done at one of the local copy places (Kinkos maybe?), but I've never tried it. Never the less, if I had the opportunity to get a large scanner at a very reasonable price,ie, free; I'd take it. Steve -- > From: Lorin Lund <lorin.lund@gmail.com> > Subject: [PAF-5] Testing the water - is there a market for a large > document scanning service (up to 11x17) > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D24BCFA.9040606@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its > price when new. > > If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little > business opportunity. > > Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large > picture or some other large document scanned? > > Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest > at all. Trying > to see whether to buy the thing. > > Thanks, > > Lorin Lund > > PS it is also capable of extra high resolution 2-4x the resolution of a > regular scanner.

In a message dated 1/6/2011 3:18:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, paf-5-users-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I rarely scan anything these days, preferring to take a digital photo > instead, much quicker and easier > Hi Nivard I certainly understand if the document is text but what about other photos? Given that you can get so much more detail in a scan than a photo unless using a camera is my only option I prefer to scan photos. Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach Fl

Hi Lorin It sounds roughly A3 in size , many places have facility for that sized copies and last I used same it was only about .20p a copy Taking toner and paper into account I do not see a great profit potential, particularly as most machines like a service now and then and should it breaks down it may be a write off A lot depends on the facilities in your area of course If you were considering doing it by return post I would say its a no go, postage and security would put most off I would have thought I rarely scan anything these days, preferring to take a digital photo instead, much quicker and easier Sorry to be negative Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> Flat objects up to 11" x 17". It has a flat glass face so a large >> object could hang off the side on one side. >> > I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its >> > rice when new. >> > If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a >> > little >> > usiness opportunity. >> > Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large >> > icture or some other large document scanned? >> > Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest >> > t all. Trying >> > o see whether to buy the thing. >> > Thanks, >> > Lorin Lund

Having had exceptional success taking digital photos of large objects (photos, baptismal certificates) I have to say I doubt there's much interest. The very high resolution may be a plus--but then there has to be a way to print the document/photo in the original size. Lila > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:27:34 -0700 > From: lorin.lund@gmail.com > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Testing the water - is there a market for a large document scanning service (up to 11x17) > > On 1/5/2011 12:33 PM, lemow@email.com wrote: > > Lorin, > > What size objects will it scan/ > > Lynn > > > Flat objects up to 11" x 17". It has a flat glass face so a large > object could hang off the side on one side. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lorin Lund<lorin.lund@gmail.com> > > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 11:48 am > > Subject: [PAF-5] Testing the water - is there a market for a large document scanning service (up to 11x17) > > > > > > I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its > > rice when new. > > If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little > > usiness opportunity. > > Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large > > icture or some other large document scanned? > > Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest > > t all. Trying > > o see whether to buy the thing. > > Thanks, > > Lorin Lund > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I ran the check file program in PAF and I got the following errors. File Check/Repair Report Checking Notes: 16114 records. The next pointer record does not point back to this record (13143). Checking Individuals: 6635 records. Individual 5983 Notes 13305 note previous pointer should be 13143 but is 10750. Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13305 pointing to wrong owner (5506). Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13515 pointing to wrong owner (5506). Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13516 pointing to wrong owner (5506). Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13517 pointing to wrong owner (5506). I tried to correct the notes for each of the two people but that didn't solve the problem and PAF keeps reverting to the same errors. Any suggestions on how to fix this problem? It appears these errors have been in my PAF file for a very long time. I thought about deleting the two people and then re-entering them but I wanted to get some advice before I start making things worse. Thanks, Shaun

Lorin Lund wrote: > I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its > price when new. > > If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little > business opportunity. > > Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large > picture or some other large document scanned? > > Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest > at all. Trying > to see whether to buy the thing. > > Thanks, > > Lorin Lund > > PS it is also capable of extra high resolution 2-4x the resolution of a > regular scanner. Given that most in-home scanners can't even scan a legal size document, I'd think there's a potential market. OTOH, it would involve trusting my document to a shipping service (USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL, Uncle Fred's Carrier Pigeon, Undine's Unicorn, whatever) and a whole lot us aren't _quite_ that trusting. You may have a better feel for how many ARE that trusting (g), and of course pricing will pay a role -- if it costs me $5 to mail it to you for scanning, and you charge me anything at all for the scan and $5 to mail the document back to me, I'm in for $10, plus the time it'll take me to d/l the image. If you send me a CD with the image as well as return the document, the mailing costs went up to $7 or so ... how many people have documents or photos valuable enough to make it worth it? (Can you tell I had to mail something recently? Turns out, it would have been cheaper and faster to drive the 75 miles each way to hand deliver it.)

Lorin, What size objects will it scan/ Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Lorin Lund <lorin.lund@gmail.com> To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 11:48 am Subject: [PAF-5] Testing the water - is there a market for a large document scanning service (up to 11x17) I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its rice when new. If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little usiness opportunity. Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large icture or some other large document scanned? Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest t all. Trying o see whether to buy the thing. Thanks, Lorin Lund PS it is also capable of extra high resolution 2-4x the resolution of a egular scanner. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you, Bill! ----- Original Message ----- From: <wadavis@vt.edu> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > Restore loads the data into the same name PAF file as the restore name > (fileXYZ.zip will give fileXYZ.PAF). If you save to a > different name, then it will not overwrite your data. If it is the same > name, then it overwrites your database. Many folks do > database backups with the date included in the name. That is the safe way > to do it. If you want to restore to the same file name > as the original, then you need to change the name of the backup file. > > Bill > >> Does RESTORE overwrite the current PAF file or do I have to set up a new >> file each time? I am backing up PAF files from PC to my laptop.(Transfer >> via external hard drive). >> >> Henny >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 1/5/2011 12:33 PM, lemow@email.com wrote: > Lorin, > What size objects will it scan/ > Lynn > Flat objects up to 11" x 17". It has a flat glass face so a large object could hang off the side on one side. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorin Lund<lorin.lund@gmail.com> > To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2011 11:48 am > Subject: [PAF-5] Testing the water - is there a market for a large document scanning service (up to 11x17) > > > I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its > rice when new. > If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little > usiness opportunity. > Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large > icture or some other large document scanned? > Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest > t all. Trying > o see whether to buy the thing. > Thanks, > Lorin Lund

Shaun, The problem with misdirected notes pointers is caused by a bug in PAF. Using the Repair option of PAF's Check/Repair is likely to cause the loss of some notes data. The best way to fix this problem is to load the file into FamilyInsight. FamilyInsight will automatically detect the problem and repair it. Because FamilyInsight tries to repair the problem as safely as possible, you should look at the report it produces. For instance, if FamilyInsight sees that one person is claiming the notes record, but the notes record says it is owned by a different person, FamilyInsight will attach the notes to both persons and tell you in the report to go look at both persons to determine which person the notes really belong to. You can then go and edit to leave the notes only on the person they belong to. Aloha, John On Jan 5, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Shaun M. O'Hara wrote: > I ran the check file program in PAF and I got the following errors. > > File Check/Repair Report > > Checking Notes: > 16114 records. > The next pointer record does not point back to this record (13143). > > Checking Individuals: > 6635 records. > Individual 5983 Notes 13305 note previous pointer should be 13143 but is > 10750. > Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13305 pointing to wrong owner (5506). > Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13515 pointing to wrong owner (5506). > Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13516 pointing to wrong owner (5506). > Individual 5983 Notes note pointer 13517 pointing to wrong owner (5506). > > I tried to correct the notes for each of the two people but that didn't > solve the problem and PAF keeps reverting to the same errors. > > Any suggestions on how to fix this problem? It appears these errors have > been in my PAF file for a very long time. > > I thought about deleting the two people and then re-entering them but I > wanted to get some advice before I start making things worse. > > Thanks, > Shaun > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an opportunity to buy a slightly used scanner for 1/6 of its price when new. If there are people who want large things scanned this might be a little business opportunity. Is there anyone on this list who might be interested in having a large picture or some other large document scanned? Pricing is yet unknown. I'm just trying to see if there is any interest at all. Trying to see whether to buy the thing. Thanks, Lorin Lund PS it is also capable of extra high resolution 2-4x the resolution of a regular scanner.

On 1/4/2011 10:51 PM, wadavis@vt.edu wrote: > You have to select the properties on the file (right click) and uncheck read-only. On the CD there is nothing that can be done > since they are read only, but once copied you can fix it. It is better to use a memory stick or actually to backup and move the ZIP > file. You could then open the zip file with the restore in PAF to create the PAF file. The pictures you might use have to be copied > separately. > > Bill > If you do have pictures or scanned documents or any other kind of external file referenced inside of PAF (whether as scrapbook or in a source citation) you might look into PAF5MediaPacker http://www.parowansoftware.com/PafSoft.html to move all the pictures along with the PAF file. >> I am changing computers and I copied my PAF to disk. Everything >> worked except it made it a read only file. How can I convert it back >> to a write file??? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Restore loads the data into the same name PAF file as the restore name (fileXYZ.zip will give fileXYZ.PAF). If you save to a different name, then it will not overwrite your data. If it is the same name, then it overwrites your database. Many folks do database backups with the date included in the name. That is the safe way to do it. If you want to restore to the same file name as the original, then you need to change the name of the backup file. Bill > Does RESTORE overwrite the current PAF file or do I have to set up a new > file each time? I am backing up PAF files from PC to my laptop.(Transfer > via external hard drive). > > Henny >

Does RESTORE overwrite the current PAF file or do I have to set up a new file each time? I am backing up PAF files from PC to my laptop.(Transfer via external hard drive). Henny ----- Original Message ----- From: <wadavis@vt.edu> To: <paf-5-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 > You have to select the properties on the file (right click) and uncheck > read-only. On the CD there is nothing that can be done > since they are read only, but once copied you can fix it. It is better to > use a memory stick or actually to backup and move the ZIP > file. You could then open the zip file with the restore in PAF to create > the PAF file. The pictures you might use have to be copied > separately. > > Bill > >> >> I am changing computers and I copied my PAF to disk. Everything >> worked except it made it a read only file. How can I convert it back >> to a write file??? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You have to select the properties on the file (right click) and uncheck read-only. On the CD there is nothing that can be done since they are read only, but once copied you can fix it. It is better to use a memory stick or actually to backup and move the ZIP file. You could then open the zip file with the restore in PAF to create the PAF file. The pictures you might use have to be copied separately. Bill > > I am changing computers and I copied my PAF to disk. Everything > worked except it made it a read only file. How can I convert it back > to a write file???

I am changing computers and I copied my PAF to disk. Everything worked except it made it a read only file. How can I convert it back to a write file???

Right click on the PAF file, choose Properties, and then uncheck the Read-only box Aloha, John On Jan 4, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Bruce Bennett wrote: > > I am changing computers and I copied my PAF to disk. Everything > worked except it made it a read only file. How can I convert it back > to a write file??? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's what I like John.......answers that are "neat, sweet, and petite". Thanks mucho! Brian -----Original Message----- From: John Vilburn <john@ohanasoftware.com> To: paf-5-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Jan 2, 2011 6:13 pm Subject: Re: [PAF-5] GEDCOM Import Log No need for concern. The GEDCOM that came from Ancestry.com contained UID tags, hich PAF does not recognize. Those tags contain unique ids, but no data that is f concern in a PAF file. Aloha, ohn On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:43 PM, bdewart@aol.com wrote: > I recently imported an updated family tree from Ancestry.com to a newly reated PAF5 file. (If it matters, most of the info in the Ancestry.com file riginally came from a PAF import to an Ancestry.com file.) Anyway, I was mpressed at how PAF incorporates info that I had added in my Ancestry.com file. UT, at the end of the import process, it displayed a "GEDCOM Import Log" isting 2926 errors, most of which looked like the following even though the ewly created PAF file looked fine. Should I be concerned? Is this problem eadily fixed? Thanks, Brian <<GEDCOM Import Log - 02 Jan 2011 File: C:\Users\bdewart\Desktop\Stevenson.GED Created by: Ancestry.com Family Trees Ancestry.com Family Trees (2010.3) Submitted by: Unknown Individuals: 2086 Marriages: 984 Sources: 113 Repositories: 0 Errors: 2926 The following lines in the GEDCOM file could not be processed due to nrecognizable tags or invalid data: ERROR 1: Stevenson.GED, line 13: RIN 1: Unexpected tag 'UID' in Individual ecord. 1 UID 576B444754811041A9E4BC7A15CC91923A26>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAF-5-USERS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I recently imported an updated family tree from Ancestry.com to a newly created PAF5 file. (If it matters, most of the info in the Ancestry.com file originally came from a PAF import to an Ancestry.com file.) Anyway, I was impressed at how PAF incorporates info that I had added in my Ancestry.com file. BUT, at the end of the import process, it displayed a "GEDCOM Import Log" listing 2926 errors, most of which looked like the following even though the newly created PAF file looked fine. Should I be concerned? Is this problem readily fixed? Thanks, Brian <<GEDCOM Import Log - 02 Jan 2011 File: C:\Users\bdewart\Desktop\Stevenson.GED Created by: Ancestry.com Family Trees Ancestry.com Family Trees (2010.3) Submitted by: Unknown Individuals: 2086 Marriages: 984 Sources: 113 Repositories: 0 Errors: 2926 The following lines in the GEDCOM file could not be processed due to unrecognizable tags or invalid data: ERROR 1: Stevenson.GED, line 13: RIN 1: Unexpected tag 'UID' in Individual Record. 1 UID 576B444754811041A9E4BC7A15CC91923A26>>