I have many documents entered into Research Data Filer which was a part of PAF 2.31. I recently upgraded my computer to Windows XP. As a result the RDF program will not open and I cannot read the floppy disk with RDF. Can anyone help me with a copy of RDF and PAF 2.31. Thank you very much. Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248 Phone: (972) 991-4891 eedgin@sbcglobal.net

Hello Carol, Seems to me you want to print a Family Group Sheet with the boxes checked for Sources and Notes (but not the box for notes marked with !) Richard At 10:31 PM 4/14/2005 -0500, Radford wrote: >Hello List, > >I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that program >you could print a 'family history report' that included everything one has >entered in that persons >file, it includes all the notes, family, children and their notes, death, >spouse, etc... > >When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me a >choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can see) >will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, etc..and of >course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that means...of course >ticking 'print to file' > >In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a map >on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where to go >to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk myself through >PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in two >programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help that >'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term >you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, not >how to get there (the map again) > >HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the >NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... > >Carol > > > > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/05 > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/

] > >Tony, > >In my long battle to use the 'Actual Text' box for source citations I have >evolved the following obscure rules and observations: Hi Stewart, thanks for the tips. The key for my problem seems to be cutting and pasting from a specific document into PAF. Your single column Excel worked, as did a notepad (or was is it the other windows text program) file, but I had to save it and reopen it, after cutting something out of PAF, to get the correct carriage returns. There does seem to be a need for a PAF/Gedcom feature to produces notes as formatted by the user, ie. allways fixed width fonts in any output format as well as on the screen. Cheers, Tony > >I would be delighted to hear of any easier solutions. > >Regards, > >Stewart >Berkshire, UK > > >

There used to be a program available on the FamilySearch site that you could download for a PDA. Is this no longer available? What was its name? Bryan A Curran Hamilton, New Zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html

Tony, In my long battle to use the 'Actual Text' box for source citations I have evolved the following obscure rules and observations: 1 - The Actual Text box on the screen and the resultant printed output cannot be formatted together - in other words, you can have the Actual Text box on screen looking nicely formatted (using tabs) - but it will not appear formatted on any printed output - or - you can have it appear formatted on your printed output (see below) and it will appear higilty pigity on the screen box. 2 - On printed output, the Actual Text will start, enclosed within its own quotation marks, immediately where the citation reference details finish (in the middle of a line) - so I always: (a) put a carriage return as the first line of each Actual Text box entry (b) never put quotation marks around the text. 3. - To get the printed output properly formatted to my requirements, I prepare the text in a single column excel spreadsheet (do not use multiple columns) using a monospaced font (example - Courier New) to exactly the format that I want to see on any printed reports and then copy/paste into the Actual Text box - immediately the contents of the box seem to go crazy and when saved and re-displayed, the layout so carefully planned with the monospaced font will have disappeared because the screen can only be displayed in a proportional font - but don't worry - as I said above, you either have it looking good on the screen and rubbish on your printed output, or the other way around. I then subsequently add in the additional carriage return on the first line (as noted above) so that the Actual Text now starts on line 2. I have evolved a number of excel "templates" for different types of sources (census, certificates etc.) so that they always have the same look and feel with just the detailed personal information changing. 4. - On the Tools>Preferences>Fonts I set the "Notes on Reports" to the same monospaced font (Courier New) and I use a smaller than normal font size (8) in order to get long lines in before the new lines or carriage returns in the excel pre-preparation formatting (particularly for all the column information on census layouts). 5. - The printed reports will now look exactly like the pre-formatting executed on the excel layout. I would be delighted to hear of any easier solutions. Regards, Stewart Berkshire, UK -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Roberts [mailto:aproberts@hotmail.com] Sent: 08 April 2005 03:43 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] Probems formatting source "Actual text" I'm going barmy. In the edit source box, I put in the examples given below, and PAF concatonates it into one line in both GEDCOM export and in its make web page facility. In the gedcom, a stack of CONC tags precede the lines, but why? Clearly I want CONT lines instead - so I preserve my formatting. Can I do this. (I know I can, because in other sources the formatting is preserved via CONT tags). Perhaps the successfully formatted sources were copied and pasted from a different document. Perhaps they were entered before I started using PAF, and came in in my first gedcom. Can anyone help me learn how to enter formatted entries (e.g. census entries), or poems into the "actual text" entry of a source? Thanks in advance, Tony "In Loving Memory of Sophia Thompson Died 18th of October 1880 Aged 19 years also Evyline Cowley Thompson Died 1st September 1891 Aged 19 years also William Yorston Grandfather of the above Died August 13th 1881 aged 89 "Until the day break and the shadows fall away" OUTPUT 6Cemetery records, Bolton St, Wellington. (Yorston). ""In Loving Memory of Sophia Thompson Died 18th of October 1880 Aged 19 years also Evyline Cowley Thompson Died 1st September 1891 Aged 19 years also William Yorston Grandfather of the above Died August 13th 1881 aged 89 "Until the day break and the shadows fall away"".". Another example: HARRIS, William Head Married M 36 Shoe Manufacturer Lambeth Surrey HARRIS, Maryann Wife Married F 34 Brompton Middlesex HARRIS, William H Son M 10 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, James J Son M 9 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, Henry A Son M 7 Scholar Walworth Newington Surrey HARRIS, Walter Y Son M 6 Scholar Walworth Surrey HARRIS, Edwards Son M 4 Scholar Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Maria D Daughter F 2 Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Alfred E Son M 0 (5M) Hampstead Middlesex ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- RG number: RG09 Piece: 92 Folio: 113 Page: 34 Registration District: Hampstead Sub District: Hampstead Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: Parish: Hampstead City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1 , Heath Street gets output as (on the web page creater, and in worldconnect) HARRIS, William Head Married M 36 Shoe Manufacturer Lambeth Surrey HARRIS, Maryann Wife Married F 34 Brompton Middlesex HARRIS, William H Son M 10 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, James J Son M 9 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, Henry A Son M 7 Scholar Walworth Newington Surrey HARRIS, Walter Y Son M 6 Scholar Walworth Surrey HARRIS, Edwards Son M 4 Scholar Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Maria D Daughter F 2 Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Alfred E Son M 0 (5M) Hampstead Middlesex ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- RG number: RG09 Piece: 92 Folio: 113 Page: 34 Registration District: Hampstead Sub District: Hampstead Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: Parish: Hampstead City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1 , Heath Street.". ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

It is the last item at http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/lds/PAF5Instructions.jsp?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&langId-1 It works well on my Handspring PDA. Elaine I trace my family history so I will know whom to blame. Hello Wayne On Friday, April 8, 2005, you wrote > I'll bet it's still there (although I haven't looked lately because I have a > Pocket PC program that can change data) -- it was buried on the page where > the PAF download was -- only down almost to the extreme bottom -- and if I > remember correctly, it only works on Palm -- not the Pocket PC. > Aloha > Wayne, NH6K > -----Original Message----- > From: origins [mailto:origins@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:10 PM > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] Re program for PDA > There used to be a program available on the > FamilySearch site that you could > download for a PDA. > Is this no longer available? > What was its name? > Bryan A Curran > Hamilton, New Zealand > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html

I'm going barmy. In the edit source box, I put in the examples given below, and PAF concatonates it into one line in both GEDCOM export and in its make web page facility. In the gedcom, a stack of CONC tags precede the lines, but why? Clearly I want CONT lines instead - so I preserve my formatting. Can I do this. (I know I can, because in other sources the formatting is preserved via CONT tags). Perhaps the successfully formatted sources were copied and pasted from a different document. Perhaps they were entered before I started using PAF, and came in in my first gedcom. Can anyone help me learn how to enter formatted entries (e.g. census entries), or poems into the "actual text" entry of a source? Thanks in advance, Tony "In Loving Memory of Sophia Thompson Died 18th of October 1880 Aged 19 years also Evyline Cowley Thompson Died 1st September 1891 Aged 19 years also William Yorston Grandfather of the above Died August 13th 1881 aged 89 "Until the day break and the shadows fall away" OUTPUT 6Cemetery records, Bolton St, Wellington. (Yorston). ""In Loving Memory of Sophia Thompson Died 18th of October 1880 Aged 19 years also Evyline Cowley Thompson Died 1st September 1891 Aged 19 years also William Yorston Grandfather of the above Died August 13th 1881 aged 89 "Until the day break and the shadows fall away"".". Another example: HARRIS, William Head Married M 36 Shoe Manufacturer Lambeth Surrey HARRIS, Maryann Wife Married F 34 Brompton Middlesex HARRIS, William H Son M 10 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, James J Son M 9 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, Henry A Son M 7 Scholar Walworth Newington Surrey HARRIS, Walter Y Son M 6 Scholar Walworth Surrey HARRIS, Edwards Son M 4 Scholar Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Maria D Daughter F 2 Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Alfred E Son M 0 (5M) Hampstead Middlesex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 92 Folio: 113 Page: 34 Registration District: Hampstead Sub District: Hampstead Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: Parish: Hampstead City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1 , Heath Street gets output as (on the web page creater, and in worldconnect) HARRIS, William Head Married M 36 Shoe Manufacturer Lambeth Surrey HARRIS, Maryann Wife Married F 34 Brompton Middlesex HARRIS, William H Son M 10 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, James J Son M 9 Scholar Southwark Surrey Old Kent Rd HARRIS, Henry A Son M 7 Scholar Walworth Newington Surrey HARRIS, Walter Y Son M 6 Scholar Walworth Surrey HARRIS, Edwards Son M 4 Scholar Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Maria D Daughter F 2 Hampstead Middlesex HARRIS, Alfred E Son M 0 (5M) Hampstead Middlesex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 92 Folio: 113 Page: 34 Registration District: Hampstead Sub District: Hampstead Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: Parish: Hampstead City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1 , Heath Street.".

I'll bet it's still there (although I haven't looked lately because I have a Pocket PC program that can change data) -- it was buried on the page where the PAF download was -- only down almost to the extreme bottom -- and if I remember correctly, it only works on Palm -- not the Pocket PC. Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: origins [mailto:origins@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:10 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] Re program for PDA There used to be a program available on the FamilySearch site that you could download for a PDA. Is this no longer available? What was its name? Bryan A Curran Hamilton, New Zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== Having trouble with the software? Check PAF 5.x Information http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uinfo.php

Rollei Little schrieb: > I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same problem as I have and > perhaps an easy solution. > I recently checked a source for my ancestor and found that the citation > details, 'Film, Volume and Page Number' as well as the 'Date record was > made' had transferred from the previous source. In this case the 1901 > Canada Census. Upon checking other entries, I found several similar > problems and now have the task of manually checking each entry. Hello Rollei, I had a problem similar to your one: Additional information to a source of person "a" wa copied to *another* source of person "b". My try to correct this problem was as follows: - Correct person "b", i.e. remove the erroneous information. - Export the complete database to Gedcom. - Import the Gedcom to a new database. - Compare the two databases using PAF Insight. The new database had the *same error*. I'm not a Gedcom specialist and for this reason unable to correct a possibly wrong Gedcom syntax. -- Nikolaus (Ordemann) http://privat.genealogy.net/ordemann Die genealogische Ordemann-Homepage The (German language) genealogical Ordemann homepage

I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same problem as I have and perhaps an easy solution. I recently checked a source for my ancestor and found that the citation details, 'Film, Volume and Page Number' as well as the 'Date record was made' had transferred from the previous source. In this case the 1901 Canada Census. Upon checking other entries, I found several similar problems and now have the task of manually checking each entry. Thankfully mine is a small database of a under 1300 people. Still..........! Thanks in advance Rollei

Hi folks, It is time for me to prepare another session for our monthly user's group meeting this coming Saturday morning. I am repeating an earlier session on PAF Focus/Filter, but would like to use some new examples of clever and useful searches that illustrate the power of the search feature. I would appreciate it if some of you would be willing to share with me some of your interesting searches and the reasons you did them so I can get some more variety in the class. Thanks in advance Richard Rands

Remember, disks are mechanical devices subject to failure. We had a bunch of floppies donated to our center, and in re-formatting them I found quite a few with bad sectors. If the temple is telling you the disk is no good (as opposed to just empty) then you may want to make sure you are using new, name brand disks and that the patrons protect them. Write on the label *before* sticking it on the floppy. I have heard that too much pressure writing on a label after application can damage the disk inside. As much as our egos don't like to hear it, virtually all other non-mechanical problems are user error, not the software. Aside from bad floppies themselves, the best way to troubleshoot the problem in your stake is to have staff always work very closely with patrons and monitor every step along the way, and for you to track which staff member helps which patron. I can almost guarantee that the rejects will be traceable to certain staff members while others will never have a problem. When you identify who consistently has problems then you can dig deeper into their procedure to discover the differences. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "TBoyd" <sisteresa@cableone.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [PAF-5] temple ready > Our stake has had a LOT of problems using temple ready in the FHC and having the temple say the disc is no good when have checked in and done the steps as Gary suggested (as far as I know.) Is there anything else that could cause this problem? > Teresa >

----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] temple ready > TBoyd wrote: > > > Our stake has had a LOT of problems using temple ready in the FHC and having the temple say the disc is no good when have checked in and done the steps as Gary suggested (as far as I know.) Is there anything else that could cause this problem? > > Teresa > > > I work in an FHC across the parking lot from a major Temple. > > If you're in an FHC distant from the Temple before you walk out of your > FHC, move your cursor down to the START button and right click; select > EXPLORE, and click on A:\ Be sure there's a .sub file on that disc and > that it has the current date. If there isn't, figure out where it went > before you walk away from the computer and put it on the disc. > > The most common problem people who come to us after being told at the > Temple that their disc's no good is that it is a blank disc; next most > common, they've got a .ged not a .sub file; and third, they've got a > backup file from some genealogy program. > > Cheryl > > Occasionally I have seen where a program does not write to a disk because it is either write-protected, not formatted, or full, but the program fails to give any notification of those problems. The above problems are generally rare however,and I can't recall observing that behavior in TempleReady for Windows. In observing patrons and walking them through the steps I find that 90% or more of the time it is NOT a software glitch but rather user error. Usually it is failure to read the save dialog box and switch to the floppy from whatever it defaulted to. Another 10% or less is mechanical failure (like bad sectors) on the floppy itself (perhaps wear or damaged in transit), or slight differences in disk drive alignment that lead to inability for disk to be read on a different computer. Even experienced computer users can get things wrong. A case in point. One of our staff bought a new computer and wanted to transfer her old PAF 2.31 data to PAF 5. The new computer does not have a floppy drive, but the tech at Circuit City was going to use an external floppy drive and load her data for her. So I did the conversion at the FHC, opened the converted file in PAF 5 with no problem, checked for database errors, and then made a backup spanning 2 floppies. The tech of course tried to unzip the backup, but the unzipping program didn't recognize the spanning, and then he tried to restore, starting with part 2 of the set, which of course was not valid. He told her the backups were bad, but when she came back I restored them on another FHC computer just fine. Gary Templeman

Well, I have seen someone go through the process and nothing was on the disk. I look at the files on the disk before I leave the FHC. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: TBoyd [mailto:sisteresa@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:48 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] temple ready Our stake has had a LOT of problems using temple ready in the FHC and having the temple say the disc is no good when have checked in and done the steps as Gary suggested (as far as I know.) Is there anything else that could cause this problem? Teresa ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uindex.php

TBoyd wrote: > Our stake has had a LOT of problems using temple ready in the FHC and having the temple say the disc is no good when have checked in and done the steps as Gary suggested (as far as I know.) Is there anything else that could cause this problem? > Teresa I work in an FHC across the parking lot from a major Temple. If you're in an FHC distant from the Temple before you walk out of your FHC, move your cursor down to the START button and right click; select EXPLORE, and click on A:\ Be sure there's a .sub file on that disc and that it has the current date. If there isn't, figure out where it went before you walk away from the computer and put it on the disc. The most common problem people who come to us after being told at the Temple that their disc's no good is that it is a blank disc; next most common, they've got a .ged not a .sub file; and third, they've got a backup file from some genealogy program. Cheryl

Our stake has had a LOT of problems using temple ready in the FHC and having the temple say the disc is no good when have checked in and done the steps as Gary suggested (as far as I know.) Is there anything else that could cause this problem? Teresa

Even on a PC without Word, right click on an .rtf document and select "Open with Wordpad". .rtf is just a file extension for Microsoft Word. Changing the extention(after file creation) to .doc might make it more universal. Even if you don't have Word, one or more applications on a PC will open it. If you are using a Mac or Linux, etc. please give more info. Also, while I'm not too sure what your project was exactly, here is an easy way to collect notes from the web. It also strips odd formatting that you find in a lot of html pages, that messes up text documents and PAF Notes: Keep a shortcut for Notepad(found in Start-All Programs-Accessories, or similar on all Windows machines) handy. I have it in my Quick launch bar, but on the desktop is fine too. Place the data you are collecting there instead of PAF Notes. Lots of people do that to clean bits of data of formatting, on the way to placing in Notes or saving elsewhere. David Creelman ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Print-to-file, individual reports > Is there something I should know about printing a succession of individual > reports to file? > > I selected 12 individuals and have spent the last 4 hours trying to print > them to file so I can cut'n'paste notes from where I put them to where I > want them. > > I was on-line and in a hurry, and after a bit decided it would be faster > to figure out WHICH of 7 men of the same name a specific paragraph meant > after I disconnected, so I put everything into the NOTES I had open at > that time. These were two to four liners and copying the source info and > then the 2 to 4 lines, save, save, find, open, etc etc was taking a while. > > Now, I've got a couple full pages of notes in X and more than half of it > belongs to a,b,c,d, and e. > > I print to file, it saves an rtf file, but nothing can open the file. > Doing an open and repair gets me machine code; doing a retrieve text gets > me massive amounts of obscure code that makes JAVA look intelligble. > > Error message says the I've been denied permission or I'm out of disc > space. Both are unlikely, unless PAF has suddenly started doing something > squirrley. > > Cheryl >

Cheryl, Maybe I don't understand your question, but I don't understand why you don't just cut & paste the notes from one person's notes to another's. Or cut or copy all of the notes from "X" to your word processor, then select which ones you want for a, b,c, d,e, etc., and paste them in. Either way is very simple to do. You don't have to print to file. I cut online text all the time and paste it into PAF notes with no problems with HTML code. However, if pasting into my word processor (I use WordPerfect 10 but it is the same in all software as far as I know), I use Edit, then Paste Special, then select Unformatted Text. Don't use Ctrl-V to paste. Joan Lowrey

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernadine Randall" <brandall@nwmo.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: [PAF-5] temple ready problem > Good morning fellow PAF users and welcome to a lovely spring day. > > I seem to be having a bit of trouble making a temple ready, and for the life > of me can not figure out the problem or what to do about it. > > The floppy has been inserted, done the selections, and gone through all the > steps to making the temple ready disc to take to the family history center. > This last time I made a print out of the names selected as proof (to me) > there IS something on the disc. > At the FHC the program says "file can not be found". > > I bring the disc home, bring it up on Word and all my selected names are > there. > > What is going on? Am I neglecting to do something? If so, could some kind > soul please advise me what it is? > > All assistance will be greatly appreciated. > B. Randall > > What kind of file do you find when you bring it home? In other words, when you open it in Word, what is the three letter extension in the file name. When you open it do you see something like this: 1 FAMC @F2271@ 1 SOUR @S258@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 5 Jul 2003 3 TIME 21:36:32 0 @I4320@ INDI 1 NAME Sarah /Rogers/ 2 SURN Rogers 2 GIVN Sarah 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1560 2 PLAC England 1 AFN 8THF-VS Or do you see something like this: FamilySearch™ Personal Ancestral File Temple Names Preparation Summary File: C:\Documents and Settings\default\Desktop\convert\test.ged Date: 02 Apr 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Instructions: Review the information on the report for accuracy. Take your submission disk to your local Family History Center and run this file through the TempleReady program. The submission file created by TempleReady is what you will submit to the temple. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Corvallis Oregon FHC 4821 NW Harrison Corvallis, OR Codes: B-Baptism E-Endowment SP-Seal to Parents SS-Seal to Spouse ------------------------------------------------------------------- Records selected from: C:\Documents and Settings\default\My Documents\PAF files\Training.paf ------------------------------------------------------------------- Individuals Qualified Ordinances ------------------------------------------------------------------- David SHERMAN-1 B E Birth: 1680 Dartmouth,Bristol,Massachusetts, USA SP: (Not qualified) No father --- Ruth SHERMAN-2 B E Birth: 1723 Dartmouth,l,MA, USA SP: (Not qualified) No father If what you see is the latter, then you are saving the report file to your floppy, but the actual gedcom that is supposed to be going to the FHC for processing is probably being saved to a folder on your hard drive. May I suggest the following procedure instead. 1. Do not do an export for TempleReady at all. Make a backup file (by using the built-in backup program in PAF under File_Backup)and make sure it is saved to your floppy (or more than one). 2. Restore the backup on the FHC computer. 3. With the file open in PAF, go to the Tools menu and select TempleReady. 4. Select the names you want to submit and go through the TempleReady process. If you need to edit any information, do it directly in TR. Then check for matches and create the temple submission disk. 5. When TR is finished, close TR and PAF will automatically start running again. 6. IMPORTANT - At this point make a NEW backup file, take it home and restore it there (saying YES when asked if you want to overwrite the existing file), which will preserve any edits and matches done at the FHC. Gary Templeman

Good morning fellow PAF users and welcome to a lovely spring day. I seem to be having a bit of trouble making a temple ready, and for the life of me can not figure out the problem or what to do about it. The floppy has been inserted, done the selections, and gone through all the steps to making the temple ready disc to take to the family history center. This last time I made a print out of the names selected as proof (to me) there IS something on the disc. At the FHC the program says "file can not be found". I bring the disc home, bring it up on Word and all my selected names are there. What is going on? Am I neglecting to do something? If so, could some kind soul please advise me what it is? All assistance will be greatly appreciated. B. Randall