I need help. All of a sudden this one family is giving me headaches. The family group sheet with notes and sources takes up 6 pages. However, today when I preview a new fgs, it is loading 28 pages! Checking it out page by page I see that included in these 28 pages are the families of the man's father, grandfather and his great-grandfather. I ran check/repair and it came up with no errors. Any ideas of why this would happen and how I can avoid it in the future?. Thanks for your help. Beverly - Mailto:kngsldy@cableone.net Families are Forever!

I just tried a 'trick' I read in a computer magazine. This sounded like a simple way to cut and paste from the word processor to the notes screen in PAF without switching from one screen to the other. The hint was to right click on the task bar and select tile windows horizontally or vertically. I tried it. The two windows I had open did not 'tile.' Instead the non-PAF window shrunk in size, but the PAF window stayed the same size. I had expected results similar to when you tile windows horizontally or vertically within PAF. I wasn't too upset at the experiment's failure except that the font changed on the PAF screen. I went to 'tools' and 'preferences' and 'fonts'. I selected 'default'. Nothing changed on the screen. When I highlight and click on an individual to edit their information, the fonts are very faint, and the text below the 'individual sources' button has its lines of text overlapping each other. The problem here might be that the 'button' is a bit larger than previously. I closed PAF and reopened it, but that made no difference! I also tried opening a different database. Suggestions, please, on how to return to the normal font appearance.... since default didn't accomplish that. Ellen

Brad, If these are the old two digit temple codes, open PAF, click on tools, click on global search and replace, click on the arrowhead at the right side of the top box and select temple codes. Then enter the old code and the new code for each temple. Lynn > > > Is there a fast way to upgrade temple code errors? > > > > I just got a HUGE, HUGE ged.com file. It has 100’s, maybe 1000’s of > Unknown temple codes. What do I do? This files temple code errors > fills 56 pages in a word file. HELP! > >

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An interesting comment Joe - "It lasts well over 100 years" - and one that got me thinking about the "quality" of the different types of paper for printouts of PAF records and other genealogical needs. Paper certainly is one way of ensuring our records are available. For "how long" depends on our selection of papers to use. This site is an interesting one as it sets out a government viewpoint on how to select papers. While it is an Australian State site, the content would be appropriate to anywhere in the world: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publicsector/rk/rib/ribpaper.htm On that site, it refers to the National Archives of Australia's "Register of Products". This too is an interesting site and has some links to suppliers of archival record supplies: http://www.naa.gov.au/recordkeeping/preservation/aqt/approved.html There would be similar sites available for most countries detailing where archival quality paper can be purchased. The above sites may give you some guidance into what to look for in your country. The Zetta Florence Archival store has branches in the UK and New Zealand for example. So, besides "backing up" with printouts, we do need to be mindful of the "quality" of the paper we choose to use. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: JosephCWright@cs.com [mailto:JosephCWright@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2005 1:35 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Backup your data! Donna, My heartfelt condolences to you. It is a disaster to loose all of our hard work. I had a close call once, so I not only back-up, but I make paper print outs every so often of key information. You never know when a disk won't work or has a glitch, and you can bet it will be when you need to recover. Doing this saved me once. I could recover everything but my e-mails. But I had the print-outs and was saved from disaster. Paper is the hardiest of archival media currently in use. It lasts well over 100 years. Microfilm is expected to last 40 or so years, computer disks much less. I hope that with time you will be able to recover even more data. Take care. Joe Wright, Chicago ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uindex.php -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 2005-04-18

Donna, My heartfelt condolences to you. It is a disaster to loose all of our hard work. I had a close call once, so I not only back-up, but I make paper print outs every so often of key information. You never know when a disk won't work or has a glitch, and you can bet it will be when you need to recover. Doing this saved me once. I could recover everything but my e-mails. But I had the print-outs and was saved from disaster. Paper is the hardiest of archival media currently in use. It lasts well over 100 years. Microfilm is expected to last 40 or so years, computer disks much less. I hope that with time you will be able to recover even more data. Take care. Joe Wright, Chicago

Radford wrote: >Hello List, > >In acquainting myself with Companion which I have just subscribed\bought to, >in opening the 'list' of files, I see the three gedcom's that I imported and >a file I have no idea where it came from...I only just opened Companion so >it possibly came with it? > >The file name is: C:downloads\FARREN.PAF. Mod. 28 Feb 2001; Ver. 3.X > >Not knowing the in's and out's of companion yet, I wonder if this file comes >with Companion as a "lesson with all the notes,etc" or can I safely delete, >(somewhere) because its not on my harddrive that I can see...its just in my >PAF Companion. > >Carol > >Carol; > > As I recollect, the FARRON.PAF PAF database comes with the program. It is an example of how data should be entered. Richard

Hello List, In acquainting myself with Companion which I have just subscribed\bought to, in opening the 'list' of files, I see the three gedcom's that I imported and a file I have no idea where it came from...I only just opened Companion so it possibly came with it? The file name is: C:downloads\FARREN.PAF. Mod. 28 Feb 2001; Ver. 3.X Not knowing the in's and out's of companion yet, I wonder if this file comes with Companion as a "lesson with all the notes,etc" or can I safely delete, (somewhere) because its not on my harddrive that I can see...its just in my PAF Companion. Carol -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/05

Hi Donna, My heartfelt sympathy goes out to you. If there is anything I can do, please let me know. Richard Rands At 10:20 AM 4/18/2005 -0700, Donna Hrynkiw wrote: >Saturday morning, with no warning, my hard-drive died. Big time. > >After hours of work this weekend by my computer geek husband, I have >about 40% of my personal files back (including at least one backup of >my PAF database file -- alas, it's more than six months old). > >Among the "lost" are about half of my genealogy digital images and >maps, photographs, e-mails, and correspondance records, not to mention >many files from my other hobbies, including vacation and family >pictures. > >I face a very large genealogy reconstruction project. > >Please learn from my mistake. Before you go any further today, make a >backup copy of your personal computer files and store them somewhere >safe (preferably off-site). Software can be reinstalled, settings can >be reset, new hardware can be purchased, but your personal data >collection exists nowhere else in the world. > >Backup your files. >Repeat regularly. > >Just call me, > >"Donna WishI'dMadeMoreBackups" >Donna Hrynkiw > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

Saturday morning, with no warning, my hard-drive died. Big time. After hours of work this weekend by my computer geek husband, I have about 40% of my personal files back (including at least one backup of my PAF database file -- alas, it's more than six months old). Among the "lost" are about half of my genealogy digital images and maps, photographs, e-mails, and correspondance records, not to mention many files from my other hobbies, including vacation and family pictures. I face a very large genealogy reconstruction project. Please learn from my mistake. Before you go any further today, make a backup copy of your personal computer files and store them somewhere safe (preferably off-site). Software can be reinstalled, settings can be reset, new hardware can be purchased, but your personal data collection exists nowhere else in the world. Backup your files. Repeat regularly. Just call me, "Donna WishI'dMadeMoreBackups" Donna Hrynkiw

Eldon, Are you still having problems? Are you on a PC or a MAC? It is on a 3 inch disk? Can you see the files on the disk using Windows Explorer? Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: eedgin@sbcglobal.net [mailto:eedgin@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:43 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] RDF and PAF 2.31 I have many documents entered into Research Data Filer which was a part of PAF 2.31. I recently upgraded my computer to Windows XP. As a result the RDF program will not open and I cannot read the floppy disk with RDF. Can anyone help me with a copy of RDF and PAF 2.31. Thank you very much. Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248 Phone: (972) 991-4891 eedgin@sbcglobal.net ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS

eedgin@sbcglobal.net wrote: > I have many documents entered into Research Data Filer which was a > part of PAF 2.31. I recently upgraded my computer to Windows XP. As > a result the RDF program will not open and I cannot read the floppy > disk with RDF. > > Can anyone help me with a copy of RDF and PAF 2.31. Let me know if no-one else can help you - I think I have all of PAF 2.31 stored on an old back up CD somewhere. > > Thank you very much. > > > > Eldon J. Edgin > 14908 Woodbriar Drive > Dallas, Texas 75248 > Phone: (972) 991-4891 > eedgin@sbcglobal.net > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >

List, Appreciate much all the replies to my problem..I have since solved it. But, what is PAF Campanion? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Jones at home" <alanjones10@cox.net> To: "'Radford'" <radford2@bellsouth.net>; <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > Click on HELP and then select LESSONS > On the left click on "4. Printing Forms and Reports" > > This will give you a series of lessons that explain the different > reports and options. Admittedly the one area that PAF 5.2 is > A bit weak is in reports, that is why PAF Companion comes > With it. This add-on provides many more reports. > > > > > Alan Jones > Mission Viejo, Calif. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Radford [mailto:radford2@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:32 PM > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > > > Hello List, > > I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that > program you could print a 'family history report' that included > everything one has entered in that persons file, it includes all the > notes, family, children and their notes, death, spouse, etc... > > When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me > a choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can > see) will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, > etc..and of course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that > means...of course ticking 'print to file' > > In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a > map on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where > to go to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk > myself through > PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in > two > programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help > that 'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term > you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, > not how to get there (the map again) > > HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the > NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/05 > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/ > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 4/14/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 4/14/05

I recently helped someone convert their PAF 2.31 file to PAF 5. On her new computer, when the notes print there are some parts that come out bold for no apparent reason. Unfortunately I cannot send an image as Rootsweb does not accept HTML. In the example she showed me, on a FGR the notes for children 1 and 4 were bold, but normal for children 2 and 3. She did not have anything in bold in PAF 2.31 and would like all of this to be in regular type. I showed her where to find font preferences, but that really does not explain why they would vary within the same report item. Ideas? Gary Templeman

PAF COMPANION is an add-in to PAF. It provides additional reports and variations on printouts. See http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView > > From: "Radford" <radford2@bellsouth.net> > Date: 2005/04/15 Fri PM 11:06:21 EDT > To: "Alan Jones at home" <alanjones10@cox.net>, > <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > > List, > > Appreciate much all the replies to my problem..I have since solved it. But, > what is PAF Campanion? > > Carol > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Jones at home" <alanjones10@cox.net> > To: "'Radford'" <radford2@bellsouth.net>; <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:13 PM > Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > > > > Click on HELP and then select LESSONS > > On the left click on "4. Printing Forms and Reports" > > > > This will give you a series of lessons that explain the different > > reports and options. Admittedly the one area that PAF 5.2 is > > A bit weak is in reports, that is why PAF Companion comes > > With it. This add-on provides many more reports. > > > > > > > > > > Alan Jones > > Mission Viejo, Calif. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Radford [mailto:radford2@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:32 PM > > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that > > program you could print a 'family history report' that included > > everything one has entered in that persons file, it includes all the > > notes, family, children and their notes, death, spouse, etc... > > > > When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me > > a choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can > > see) will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, > > etc..and of course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that > > means...of course ticking 'print to file' > > > > In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a > > map on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where > > to go to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk > > myself through > > PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in > > two > > programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help > > that 'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term > > you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, > > not how to get there (the map again) > > > > HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the > > NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/05 > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 4/14/05 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 4/14/05 > >

Thank you Richard..I would have thanked you off-list, but I think that my query has been answered by reinstalling PAF5 because the BOOKS tab was grayed out and I thought I was not going to be able to access that option...because your suggestion was not it (Family Group)..but, when I unticked the notes (!) and after reinstalling PAF5, the BOOKS tab became clickable!!! I am running WIN98SE and its probably time for me to upgrade!!!...Thank you again for your reply.. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rands" <rrands@cfmc.com> To: "Radford" <radford2@bellsouth.net>; <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes > Hello Carol, > Seems to me you want to print a Family Group Sheet with the boxes checked > for Sources and Notes (but not the box for notes marked with !) > > Richard > > At 10:31 PM 4/14/2005 -0500, Radford wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that program > >you could print a 'family history report' that included everything one has > >entered in that persons > >file, it includes all the notes, family, children and their notes, death, > >spouse, etc... > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 4/14/05

Hello List, I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that program you could print a 'family history report' that included everything one has entered in that persons file, it includes all the notes, family, children and their notes, death, spouse, etc... When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me a choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can see) will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, etc..and of course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that means...of course ticking 'print to file' In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a map on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where to go to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk myself through PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in two programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help that 'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, not how to get there (the map again) HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... Carol -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/05

Was that RDF and PAF 2.3.1 on a PC or on an APPLE? > > From: <eedgin@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2005/04/14 Thu PM 02:43:29 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] RDF and PAF 2.31 > > I have many documents entered into Research Data Filer which was a part of > PAF 2.31. I recently upgraded my computer to Windows XP. As a result the > RDF program will not open and I cannot read the floppy disk with RDF. > > Can anyone help me with a copy of RDF and PAF 2.31. > > Thank you very much. > > > > Eldon J. Edgin > 14908 Woodbriar Drive > Dallas, Texas 75248 > Phone: (972) 991-4891 > eedgin@sbcglobal.net > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS > >

Click on HELP and then select LESSONS On the left click on "4. Printing Forms and Reports" This will give you a series of lessons that explain the different reports and options. Admittedly the one area that PAF 5.2 is A bit weak is in reports, that is why PAF Companion comes With it. This add-on provides many more reports. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: Radford [mailto:radford2@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:32 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] Trying to print reports with notes Hello List, I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that program you could print a 'family history report' that included everything one has entered in that persons file, it includes all the notes, family, children and their notes, death, spouse, etc... When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me a choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can see) will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, etc..and of course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that means...of course ticking 'print to file' In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a map on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where to go to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk myself through PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in two programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help that 'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, not how to get there (the map again) HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... Carol -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/05 ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

Radford wrote: > Hello List, > > I am fairly new to PAF5 coming from Generations Easy Tree..in that program > you could print a 'family history report' that included everything one has > entered in that persons > file, it includes all the notes, family, children and their notes, death, > spouse, etc... > > When I click on the printer icon in PAF, I get the screen that gives me a > choice of various reports and charts, but not one of them (that I can see) > will include ALL my notes..I have tried various combinations, etc..and of > course, checked 'marked notes (!) only" whatever that means...of course > ticking 'print to file' > > In trying to find help in the "help" it never tells you where to go or a map > on how to get there. it discusses the problem, but no solution where to go > to solve it.. I am very frustrated in not being able to walk myself through > PAF. It is time consuming and not a very good idea, for me, to work in two > programs..so if someone could tell me where in 'help' I can get help that > 'tells it' in plain language!!...even after you've found the term > you want, when you click that choice it tells you what it will do, BUT, not > how to get there (the map again) > > HOW do I find the path to saving and printing a report that includes the > NOTES! Yes, I know I am thick.... > > Carol Since I don't use Generations, I'm not sure what you're wanting to do, but one of these could suit: 1. the BOOK report. Click File/Print Reports/Book look carefully at *ALL* the options. If you want everything that's in the notes, UN-tic the "marked notes only" box because ticking it gets you only the notes you've tagged with a ! or some other character. 2. The Individual Summary. Click File/Print Reports/Individual Summary Again, un-tic the "marked notes only" box. 3. Family Group Sheet -- Click File/Print Reports/Family Group and once more UN-tic the "marked notes only". HTH Cheryl