In a message dated 4/25/2005 1:18:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, beagenie@charter.net writes: Did I miss the reply to this question? I would like to see what it was, as this has been something that has bugged me, too. It would be nice to have some way of "marking" and error that is not really an error. Laura You can tell PAF 5 what rules you want it to consider as possible problems in marriages. Go to Reports > Lists > Possible Problems. At the bottom of the box, click on the "Options" button. A new box will come up and you can change the values for the Mother, Father and the age difference. You can also change whether the list sorts by alphabet or RIN and you can change the sort order (like from A to Z or from Z to A or even from A to C, for example). So you could just do a part of your file at a time using the alphabet or the RIN (sort from 1 to 100, for example). If you uncheck the LDS options box, then baptismal problems, etc. will not be listed. I do not know how to stop it from telling you that a child was born before the parents were married. It seems to be really prudish about that. Alan B.

Walter S Porter wrote: > I,m a first timer at this. Is there a way to put text into blank forms such as Cemetery Reports, Census Reports, Research Reports, Military Reports, etc. I hope someone can let me know. I have so much information to record that I would like to do it on the computer rather than having to do it by hand. Thanks in advance. Diane It can be done by creating a template in Word or WP. I've *used* such templates, but I've never created one. I think they can also be done in Adobe Acrobat if you have the full in$$tallion. No help there, huh? However, having used these templates, let me say this about that -- I'd sooner just set up a spreadsheet or straight type them into WP or Word. YMMV of course. Cheryl

I,m a first timer at this. Is there a way to put text into blank forms such as Cemetery Reports, Census Reports, Research Reports, Military Reports, etc. I hope someone can let me know. I have so much information to record that I would like to do it on the computer rather than having to do it by hand. Thanks in advance. Diane

I finally found a directory that looked like a PAF 2.31 install. I zipped it up and sent it. If there is anyone else who once had PAF 2.31 and has had second thoughts about not keeping an archival copy, I'll send a copy to whomever requests it. eedgin@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Lorin, I must have missed your e-mail, somehow. > > I do not yet have a useable copy of PAF 2.31. I have a copy which I > backed up using Windows 98. Unfortunately, I now have Windows XP. > Windows SP will not restore the file. > > Thank you very much. > > Eldon J. Edgin > 14908 Woodbriar Drive > Dallas, Texas 75248 > Phone: (972) 991-4891 > eedgin@sbcglobal.net > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorin Lund" <wbs@infowest.com> > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] RDF and PAF 2.31 > > >> eedgin@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >>> I have many documents entered into Research Data Filer which was a >>> part of PAF 2.31. I recently upgraded my computer to Windows XP. >>> As a result the RDF program will not open and I cannot read the >>> floppy disk with RDF. >>> >>> Can anyone help me with a copy of RDF and PAF 2.31. >> >> >> Let me know if no-one else can help you - I think I have all of >> PAF 2.31 stored on an old back up CD somewhere. >> >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> >>> >>> Eldon J. Edgin >>> 14908 Woodbriar Drive >>> Dallas, Texas 75248 >>> Phone: (972) 991-4891 >>> eedgin@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >>> PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search >>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >>> >> >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index >> Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! >> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> > > > >

I am no expert, but I know no way to mark anything,-- but I do know: IF you want to increase ages when having children will not cause it to appear on list - or "children order errors" not appear -- do this: after you select problem list, click on options at bottom of box, you will find several things opt if computer searches for, or you can change how computer searches for them. R Paul "Laura G." <beagenie@charter.net> wrote: Did I miss the reply to this question? I would like to see what it was, as this has been something that has bugged me, too. It would be nice to have some way of "marking" and error that is not really an error. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen W Hamilton" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Possible Problem list > Is there a way to tell the PAF program that certain dates are correct and > should not be listed in the Possible Problems list? > I would like to be able to run that report until I get nothing listed. As > it is each time I run the report I have to go through it and check off all > those persons that are not really problems before I can get to the ones > that might be problems. > I guess I have a lot of "older" men in my data base that were still > producing children after the age of 45. My own dad, for instance. :-) > > Helen > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== Having trouble with the software? Check PAF 5.x Information http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uinfo.php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Have you got the box marked "print to file" checked? It shouldn't be if you want a paper copy Guy -----Original Message----- From: bj <adrient@netbistro.com> To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 24 April 2005 16:03 Subject: [PAF-5] no data >Hello >I have had PAF for quite a while and it always worked fine but have not >used it a lot until lately. It used to work fine. >Now I imported three Family Tree Maker files into one one, and then merged >a lot. >Now when I go to print, it comes up with no data. >But I can see the data on the screen. >Help >BJ > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/ >

singhals wrote: > I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and entered > the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed to unlink > her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her in the > "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's now the > 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I wouldn't > actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and trip me up at > some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. Suggestions > welcomed on how to get rid of it. > > Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead > of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure as > heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. > > Thanks! > > Cheryl And when I reopened the db Sunday afternoon to try some of the excellent suggestions, the problems weren't there. Only thing I can figure is, closing the database and powering down cleared a buffer somewhere and allowed the changes to show. Thanks, guys'n'gals. Cheryl "I've hated computers since 1962"

Try this for your messed-up Unknown marriage. Put the husband in the Primary Select Other Marriages, bring up the Unknown marriage Click on Add, Spouse New Person (you're going to delete her anyway, but give her at least a last name). You should be prompted for "add spouse to this marriage" - take Yes. Now your Unknown marriage has a person, and you should be able to delete the marriage and delete the 'temp' spouse as well. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm

Did I miss the reply to this question? I would like to see what it was, as this has been something that has bugged me, too. It would be nice to have some way of "marking" and error that is not really an error. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen W Hamilton" <hwhamilton2@msn.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Possible Problem list > Is there a way to tell the PAF program that certain dates are correct and > should not be listed in the Possible Problems list? > I would like to be able to run that report until I get nothing listed. As > it is each time I run the report I have to go through it and check off all > those persons that are not really problems before I can get to the ones > that might be problems. > I guess I have a lot of "older" men in my data base that were still > producing children after the age of 45. My own dad, for instance. :-) > > Helen > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > >

Cheryl, I find it incredible that you can get into a marriage edit window and have the Delete option greyed out. This should not happen and it is difficult to come up with a scenario that would create it. Are you on the 5.2.18? The marriage edit screen can also be reached from the menu options - Search > Marriage List - then highlighting the particular marriage (MRIN) and pressing the Edit button - it should give exactly the same options as before - but it should be tried to be absolutely sure. If you are on 5.2.18 and the marriage has a MRIN - whether or not one of the spouses is Unknown - and PAF is preventing the use of the Delete button - then you have a major and uncommon bug. Do keep us posted as to progress. Regards, Stewart -----Original Message----- From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] Sent: 24 April 2005 18:49 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] How to delete a marriage and a space? Since I'm a lazy soul, I'll reply to Richard publically, since lots of you have suggested the same procedure for deleting the marriage ... unfortunately the "delete marriage" choice is greyed out when I try it, so that doesn't work. Ah-HA a non-printing chr$ ... OK, I didn't think of that. And GEDCOMming one person might be doable, but be darn if I'm even gonna think about gecomming the whole file of 35,000+ names and notes. It was sad enough at 20,000 names... I'll letchano if any of this works. Thanks Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know > where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on > the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. > Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife > boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete > button. > > For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, > so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character > embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you > inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can > eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual > screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If > that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If > that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter > it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I > suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete > the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing > character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record > and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file > to me and I'll fix it. > > Richard Rands > > > > At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and >> entered the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed >> to unlink her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her >> in the "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's >> now the 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I >> wouldn't actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and >> trip me up at some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. >> Suggestions welcomed on how to get rid of it. >> >> Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead >> of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure >> as heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Cheryl ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== Having trouble with the software? Check PAF 5.x Information http://www.ausbdm.org/p5uinfo.php

BJ, Usually when this happens there are no names listed to start the print from. These would be listed in the upper LH side of the window. Look to the far right and see the box that is entitled "use list". Take the check out of that box and the names should now appear. Lynn > > Hello > I have had PAF for quite a while and it always worked fine but have > not used it a lot until lately. It used to work fine. > Now I imported three Family Tree Maker files into one one, and then > merged a lot. > Now when I go to print, it comes up with no data. > But I can see the data on the screen. > Help > BJ > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/

Since I'm a lazy soul, I'll reply to Richard publically, since lots of you have suggested the same procedure for deleting the marriage ... unfortunately the "delete marriage" choice is greyed out when I try it, so that doesn't work. Ah-HA a non-printing chr$ ... OK, I didn't think of that. And GEDCOMming one person might be doable, but be darn if I'm even gonna think about gecomming the whole file of 35,000+ names and notes. It was sad enough at 20,000 names... I'll letchano if any of this works. Thanks Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know > where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on > the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. > Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife > boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete > button. > > For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, > so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character > embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you > inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can > eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual > screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If > that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If > that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter > it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I > suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete > the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing > character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record > and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file > to me and I'll fix it. > > Richard Rands > > > > At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: > >> I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and >> entered the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed >> to unlink her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her >> in the "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's >> now the 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I >> wouldn't actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and >> trip me up at some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. >> Suggestions welcomed on how to get rid of it. >> >> Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead >> of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure >> as heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Cheryl

Thank you so very much Alan and Gary!! You had the correct answer for me. Now that I have downloaded the upgrade to PAF Insight, I am up and running again. I can't thank you enough. I am going to use this in my Sunday School Class today as I had originally hoped to do. Mary Tigard, Oregon

When you look at your PAF database in Pedigree view do you See people on the pedigree chart? When you go print, in the Print Report window before printing Do you have a person selected? Or is the button check that Says blank form? Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: bj [mailto:adrient@netbistro.com] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:02 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] no data Hello I have had PAF for quite a while and it always worked fine but have not used it a lot until lately. It used to work fine. Now I imported three Family Tree Maker files into one one, and then merged a lot. Now when I go to print, it comes up with no data. But I can see the data on the screen. Help BJ ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

Go to the PAF Insight website and look for trouble shooting. By the way, there was mandatory upgrade recently, did you do that? If not go to the website and do the upgrade. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: Briggsml@aol.com [mailto:Briggsml@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:14 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] PAF Insight Problem I have had PAF Insight installed on my computer for over a year and used it initially, then got very involved with an extraction program and didn't have much time to work on my genealogy. Now I am trying to make time for it and have discovered that I can't gain access to PAF insight. I still shows up when I go to tools. When I click on it, the program comes up with and everything looks normal. When I go to the "Log In" button, the little window on the upper right corner of that quarter of the page shows "Signing On," but then shortly is says "Bad connection" and doesn't give me the boxes to fill in my sign on and password. Does anyone have any suggestions? Mary Tigard, Oregon ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/

Hello I have had PAF for quite a while and it always worked fine but have not used it a lot until lately. It used to work fine. Now I imported three Family Tree Maker files into one one, and then merged a lot. Now when I go to print, it comes up with no data. But I can see the data on the screen. Help BJ

I have had PAF Insight installed on my computer for over a year and used it initially, then got very involved with an extraction program and didn't have much time to work on my genealogy. Now I am trying to make time for it and have discovered that I can't gain access to PAF insight. I still shows up when I go to tools. When I click on it, the program comes up with and everything looks normal. When I go to the "Log In" button, the little window on the upper right corner of that quarter of the page shows "Signing On," but then shortly is says "Bad connection" and doesn't give me the boxes to fill in my sign on and password. Does anyone have any suggestions? Mary Tigard, Oregon

Hi Cheryl, Deleting an unwanted marriage record is hard to locate unless you know where to look. Put the husband in the principal position and click on the Other Marriages button. Select the Unknown spouse and click OK. Then double click on the Marriage date box between the husband and wife boxes. On the right side of the Edit Marriage window will be a Delete button. For the " Thomas" problem, PAF will automatically remove leading blanks, so what you seem to have before the T is a non-printing character embedded in the given name field. Many times this may happen if you inadvertently double strike two keys simultaneously. Usually you can eliminate the seemingly blank character by opening the Edit Individual screen and deleting the entire given name and re-entering the name. If that does not work, try deleting the entire name and re-entering it. If that does not work, then you may need to delete the record and reenter it. If there are lots of notes and sources attached to the record, I suggest you export the single record as a GEDCOM file and then delete the record. Use a text editor (Wordpad) and make sure the non-printing character did not get into the GEDCOM file. Then re-import the record and link it back up to the family. If that doesn't work, send your file to me and I'll fix it. Richard Rands At 07:21 PM 4/23/2005 -0400, singhals wrote: >I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and entered >the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed to unlink >her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her in the >"unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's now the 3rd >spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I wouldn't actually >care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and trip me up at some future >time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. Suggestions welcomed on how to >get rid of it. > >Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead of >"Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure as heck >tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. > >Thanks! > >Cheryl > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/

I accidentally entered an "unknown" spouse with no children, and entered the lady who shudda been the spouse as a child. I've managed to unlink her as a child. What I *intended* to happen was insert her in the "unknown" slot, but something somewhere went wrong, and she's now the 3rd spouse, and I can't delete the Unknown marriage. I wouldn't actually care, except it's stupid to let it sit there and trip me up at some future time after I've forgotten it's a mistake. Suggestions welcomed on how to get rid of it. Also, on another family, the 5th child is showing as " Thomas" instead of "Thomas" ... I haven't been able to fix that either, but I've sure as heck tried! (g) Might help if I could figure out what caused it. Thanks! Cheryl

Sounds like you have the button for Cascading rather than Single family checked. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly" <kngsldy@cableone.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Re: FGS not setting up correctly to print! > I need help. All of a sudden this one family is giving me headaches. > The family group sheet with notes and sources takes up 6 pages. > However, today when I preview a new fgs, it is loading 28 pages! > Checking it out page by page I see that included in these 28 pages are > the families of the man's father, grandfather and his > great-grandfather. I ran check/repair and it came up with no errors. > Any ideas of why this would happen and how I can avoid it in the future?. > > Thanks for your help. > > Beverly > - > > Mailto:kngsldy@cableone.net > Families are Forever! > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >