If you mean you put those words in the NOTES area, you can do it. For example, Click FILE Click Print Reports Click Custom tab Click Select In relationship filter, leave it set to ALL Click on Define in the Field Filter area In the Field Filtering dialog window, in the left side select NOTES Click the ">" button, it will pop up a new dialog "Notes Field Selector" on the top leave it as "Contains" in the bottom field enter "WAR" click OK OK OK Preview and/or Print it. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bumgardner [mailto:gen1bob@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:52 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: PAF Focus Hi PAF Friends: I have a problem perhaps you can assist. Was attempting to search my database with Forcus for some of my database files using the Military Service as a filter. Was unable to find in the PAF Focus filter an entry for Military Service. In my database I have made numerious entries for "RevWar"; "Civ'War"; "World War I" and "World War II" plus the "Spanish American War!" I was want to search my database for each of these different wars and make a printout of each utilizing the Focus and filtering features. Can any one give me directions or point me towards assistance. Sincerely, Robert Bumgardner on gen1bob@charter.net

Use this shortcut http://tinyurl.com/d0zp and scroll way down the page to find the PDA software. > > From: Web0513@aol.com > Date: 2005/06/30 Thu PM 01:10:52 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] PDA PAF software > > Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems > I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from > FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to > download from. > > Thanks > > Jim Webster > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ > >

Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to download from. Thanks Jim Webster

Hello Thanks for the replies to this. There are 8 children on the IGI, all bp, end and sp. The parents names are mentioned, but their marriage is not on the IGI. The children's details were extracted from a parish different from where the parents married. The parish where the parents were married hasn't been used for extraction. I wanted to show on the IGI, that the couple were the parents of the children. I think I will submit to Pedigree Resource File in order to show this, and also to show the name variations which occur in this family. (I had hoped that through PAF and TR that I might be able to show this) Thanks for all the help! I've learned such a lot through all the answers and also searching the archives! Valerie

As best as I remember, it's on the same page as the PAF download, except way down toward the bottom! Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: Web0513@aol.com [mailto:Web0513@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:11 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] PDA PAF software Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to download from. Thanks Jim Webster ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

Well, it would seem simpler but I have another reason. My web page is designed using DftCom2 which will only recognize ASCII. http://userweb.suscom.net/~billinn/ There are foreign language versions of the program but I don't know how it deals with the special characters. You can go to the developer's site, http://www.dftcom2.co.uk/ and sort through it. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <alanjones10@cox.net> To: "Bill Linn" <billinn@suscom.net>; <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program than PAF5 > So Bill is it true then that for those of who only have western European > type names: Jones, Smith, Brown, Yorganson, Perino, Savant, etc.(no > special characters) that it is simplar and perhaps better to just go with > ASCII? > > > >> From: "Bill Linn" <billinn@suscom.net> >> Date: 2005/06/29 Wed PM 12:52:07 EDT >> To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program >> than PAF5 >> >> You are right on track Donna. Other GEDCOM 5.5 and you can use either >> depending on what you need. Richard explained this in detail in June. >> >> "The ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange) is >> the simply Roman alphabet. >> The ANSEL (American National ? ? of Librarians) is the Roman >> alphabet including the diacritical marks that show pronunciation for >> European languages. >> The UTF-8 (Universal Transfer Function -8) and the Unicode are >> similar enough that I do not know the difference. The Unicode system >> uses two bytes to allow encoding any of the written languages including >> Cyrillic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, etc. >> Richard L. Halliday" >> >> Regards, Bill >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna Autrey" <autrey@c-zone.net> >> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:09 AM >> Subject: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program >> than >> PAF5 >> >> >> >A Question. >> > >> > I want to make a PAF5 Gedcom and export it to another Genealogy >> > Program >> > "Ancestral >> > Quest." I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING INCLUDED. >> > >> > What it the Best Type of Other Gedcom for this???? >> > Ansel: ANSI: UTF-8 >> > >> > Thanks for your Input. >> > >> > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> > PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >> > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ >> >> > >

All; In an earlier message it was asked what character set should be used when transferring information to a non-PAF genealogical database. What follows is probably more than most of you want to know about the subject. If that is the case then a short answer is in the last three paragraphs. The selection is easier when you know what each character set represents. Since computers do not recognize letters, punctuation marks and special characters, but work entirely with numbers it is necessary to have a agreement as to what each number represents. A character set is merely an agreed upon list of numbers and the character that each number represents. For example Morse code is a character set composed of dots and dashes that represent letters, numerals, punctuation marks and control characters. Control characters are items such as TOF (Move the paper to the Top Of the Form), EOF (End of File), ACK (Acknowledge), etc. ASCII. One of the earliest character sets is the American Standard Code for Information Interchange. It used eight bits (1s or 0s) to represent each character. The first seven bits make up 128 characters. The eighth bit is a Parity bit. Parity is a simple method of determining whether an error in transmission has occurred. This was important at the time because telephone and telegraph lines were quite noisy making transmission errors common. Those 128 characters consist of letters, both upper case and lower case, numerals, punctuation and special characters (e.g. “/”, “?”, “%”, etc. For example “A” is represented by 66, “B” by 67, “C” by 68, “a” by 97, “1" by 49, “?” by 63, etc. The letters of the alphabet, both upper case and lower case and the numerals require 62 of the numbers leaving 65 of them for the other characters. ASCII is sufficient for the English language which uses the Roman alphabet. As the modes electrical transmission and storage of information became more reliable the eighth character, the Parity Bit, of the ASCII character set became redundant. By using eight bits it was possible to represent 256 characters. ANSEL. This character set consists of 256 characters. Other European languages use the Roman alphabet, but they have additional marks (diacritical marks) that help with the pronunciation. Examples are the tilde, the umlaut and the accent mark. The American National Standard Extended Latin (ANSEL) also called American Library association uses the additional codes to add the diacritical marks. ANSEL is backward compatible with ASCII (i.e., it uses the same codes for letters, numerals and punctuation). Unicode. In the late 1980s the need to encode other alphabets (e.g. Arabic, Cyrillic, etc.) and non-alphabetical languages (e.g., Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc.) became urgent. This required a much larger list of characters. Unicode was the agreed upon answer to this need. It is backward compatible with ASCII. Each character consists of two, four or eight bytes. UTF-8. Universal Transfer Function - 8-bytes is a protocol for identifying and transferring any of the Unicode character sets. So – which one should be used when you are making a GEDCOM file for use of a non-PAF genealogical database. If your PAF database consists solely of English given names, surnames and place names then the ASCII character set is sufficient. If your PAF database contains European names that have diacritical marks then the ANSEL character set is adequate. ASCII and ANSEL are the most widely used and the smallest of the character sets. If you are using a non-Roman alphabet or a non-alphabetical character set then Unicode is required. This character set is much more bulky than ASCII or ANSEL and it will not work well on all computers. A safer alternative is to use UTF-8. It is more bulky than Unicode, but it is more universal and works both on Windows and most non-Windows operating systems.

Hello Many thanks for the replies. I want to submit some work to TempleReady and for the resulting entries into the IGI to be as complete and full as possible. When I take my PAF disc to the FHC and enter the names of a couple, is there any way I can make sure that the rest of the family will also be included? What I mean is, if I submit a person's name and spouse's name and their marriage, then I'd like any other researchers to be able to click on the "family" and see the couple's children listed. Will this automatically happen? Will TR pick up the children's names as well as the parents? The children of the couple I will be submitting have already had work done, yet the parents haven't. (done by extraction years ago). I'm wondering if TR will only pick up the actual couple and then the IGI won't show any connection to their children who are already on the IGI. Yet there is the facility on IGI next to a marriage entry to click on "family" (often it just says "no children") I hope this makes sense! ( ie. Is there any way I can use my PAF disc to enable TR to include the children's information yet not submit any work for them.) Thanks for any help Valerie

bladon wrote: > Will this automatically happen? Will TR pick up the children's names as well as the parents? The children of the couple I will be submitting have already had work done, yet the parents haven't. (done by extraction years ago). I'm not sure I follow this -- how could the children have been sealed to their parents if the parents aren't in the IGI? If I've misread something, and what the children have had done is the baptism and endowment, then use your turn to SP, which OUGHT to link the two. But, maybe not. I'll believe anything today. (g) Cheryl

So Bill is it true then that for those of who only have western European type names: Jones, Smith, Brown, Yorganson, Perino, Savant, etc.(no special characters) that it is simplar and perhaps better to just go with ASCII? > From: "Bill Linn" <billinn@suscom.net> > Date: 2005/06/29 Wed PM 12:52:07 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program than PAF5 > > You are right on track Donna. Other GEDCOM 5.5 and you can use either > depending on what you need. Richard explained this in detail in June. > > "The ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange) is > the simply Roman alphabet. > The ANSEL (American National ? ? of Librarians) is the Roman > alphabet including the diacritical marks that show pronunciation for > European languages. > The UTF-8 (Universal Transfer Function -8) and the Unicode are > similar enough that I do not know the difference. The Unicode system > uses two bytes to allow encoding any of the written languages including > Cyrillic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, etc. > Richard L. Halliday" > > Regards, Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Autrey" <autrey@c-zone.net> > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:09 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program than > PAF5 > > > >A Question. > > > > I want to make a PAF5 Gedcom and export it to another Genealogy Program > > "Ancestral > > Quest." I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING INCLUDED. > > > > What it the Best Type of Other Gedcom for this???? > > Ansel: ANSI: UTF-8 > > > > Thanks for your Input. > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ > > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > >

The IGI does not support a family pedigree. Things are in there separately and individually. You will have a child sealed to a parent and separately the parents married. There are ways to search for all the children of a certain parent but TempleReady and the System do not connect them. Is this clear enough or should I try to explain some more? Alan > From: "bladon" <bladon@onetel.net> > Date: 2005/06/29 Wed PM 02:52:31 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] Name variations and IGI > > Hello > > Many thanks for the replies. > > I want to submit some work to TempleReady and for the resulting entries into the IGI to be as complete and full as possible. > > When I take my PAF disc to the FHC and enter the names of a couple, is there any way I can make sure that the rest of the family will also be included? > > What I mean is, if I submit a person's name and spouse's name and their marriage, then I'd like any other researchers to be able to click on the "family" and see the couple's children listed. > > Will this automatically happen? Will TR pick up the children's names as well as the parents? The children of the couple I will be submitting have already had work done, yet the parents haven't. (done by extraction years ago). > > I'm wondering if TR will only pick up the actual couple and then the IGI won't show any connection to their children who are already on the IGI. Yet there is the facility on IGI next to a marriage entry to click on "family" (often it just says "no children") > > I hope this makes sense! ( ie. Is there any way I can use my PAF disc to enable TR to include the children's information yet not submit any work for them.) > > Thanks for any help > Valerie > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS > >

You are right on track Donna. Other GEDCOM 5.5 and you can use either depending on what you need. Richard explained this in detail in June. "The ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange) is the simply Roman alphabet. The ANSEL (American National ? ? of Librarians) is the Roman alphabet including the diacritical marks that show pronunciation for European languages. The UTF-8 (Universal Transfer Function -8) and the Unicode are similar enough that I do not know the difference. The Unicode system uses two bytes to allow encoding any of the written languages including Cyrillic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, etc. Richard L. Halliday" Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Autrey" <autrey@c-zone.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: [PAF-5] Question on Making Gedcom to import to Other Program than PAF5 >A Question. > > I want to make a PAF5 Gedcom and export it to another Genealogy Program > "Ancestral > Quest." I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING INCLUDED. > > What it the Best Type of Other Gedcom for this???? > Ansel: ANSI: UTF-8 > > Thanks for your Input. > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ > >

Hi Valerie. I am not an up-to-date expert on TempleReady, but in reading your questions, I have a sense that there might be a misunderstanding of how the TempleReady program works and how it relates to the IGI. I will forward your questions to Mary Lou Harline who is the person I rely on for such questions. One issue that strikes me as obvious is that the IGI is not a lineage linked file. It is a record of events such as births, deaths, marriages, temple ordinances. Some of the records will show parents and or a child because birth records or sealings will contain that information. But for the most part, there is no provision in the IGI to build complete families and lineages. The Family Ordinance Record is different and does show families as long as they have been sealed together at the same time. I suspect that if you perform the sealing of the parents there will have to be some special procedure to make sure your work is applied to the family members that have already had their work done. I suspect that using the AFN numbers will be the key. Secondly, If you prepare a TempleReady disk in PAF and submit it to the TempleReady program. It is my understanding that when TempleReady clears a name for ordinance work, only that name is transferred to the Submission disk. The names that do not qualify for ordinance work are not put on the submission disk. Richard Rands At 07:52 PM 6/29/2005 +0100, bladon wrote: >Hello > >Many thanks for the replies. > >I want to submit some work to TempleReady and for the resulting entries >into the IGI to be as complete and full as possible. > >When I take my PAF disc to the FHC and enter the names of a couple, is >there any way I can make sure that the rest of the family will also be >included? > >What I mean is, if I submit a person's name and spouse's name and their >marriage, then I'd like any other researchers to be able to click on the >"family" and see the couple's children listed. > >Will this automatically happen? Will TR pick up the children's names as >well as the parents? The children of the couple I will be submitting have >already had work done, yet the parents haven't. (done by extraction years >ago). > >I'm wondering if TR will only pick up the actual couple and then the IGI >won't show any connection to their children who are already on the >IGI. Yet there is the facility on IGI next to a marriage entry to click >on "family" (often it just says "no children") > >I hope this makes sense! ( ie. Is there any way I can use my PAF disc to >enable TR to include the children's information yet not submit any work >for them.) > >Thanks for any help >Valerie > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS

Hi Donna, Exporting data via GEDCOM and expecting to have "EVERYTHING" included is not something you can control with a setting. The program you import the GEDCOM into may not support some of the items you have in the PAF5 program, and there is no setting that will force the receiving program to accept it. When this occurs, generally the receiving program will put that information in the notes. Since PAF5 used to be an earlier version of Ancestral Quest, the two are fairly well compatible, but there may be some things in PAF5.2 that are not acceptable to the latest AQ. You should select Other GEDCOM 5.5 and leave the Character set to the default. If you have any special characters (diacritics) such as umlauts, accents, tildies, or cedillias, you should use UTF-8. Richard Rands At 08:09 AM 6/29/2005 -0700, Donna Autrey wrote: >A Question. > >I want to make a PAF5 Gedcom and export it to another Genealogy Program >"Ancestral >Quest." I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING INCLUDED. > >What it the Best Type of Other Gedcom for this???? >Ansel: ANSI: UTF-8 > >Thanks for your Input. > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

A Question. I want to make a PAF5 Gedcom and export it to another Genealogy Program "Ancestral Quest." I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING INCLUDED. What it the Best Type of Other Gedcom for this???? Ansel: ANSI: UTF-8 Thanks for your Input.

Cheryl, Not all that "out in left field." That's exactly what I enter when I'm citing a source received by email. You'd be amazed at how many emails I get concerning folks included in my RootsWeb posting. I have a single source for email communications in my source list. When I use it, I include the person's name and email address in the Vol/Page, etc. field and the date I got the email in the Date field. In the comments block I list what source they cite and other details they include. That way, if I need to get back to that source later, or provide info to someone else who needs to contact them, I have a record of when I got the info & the person's email address at that time. It gives me a pretty good idea of whether or not I'll be able to contact them again. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Date citation was made > ROTFL! And here I've been thinking it was for "when did I put this source > in here." [shakes head, wanders off, mumbling...] > > Cheryl > > Richard Rands wrote: > >> Hi Melanie, >> Richard Halliday's answer is a good one, but I'd like to add something >> that will explain the purpose behind the "Date Citation was made" field. >> >> As Richard pointed out, there is often a gap between the date of the >> event and the date the event was recorded. For example, it is not >> uncommon to get a certified birth certificate from a vital records office >> that is actually a certified document transcribed from some original >> documents that you do not have access to. In this case the gap between >> event and recording may be many years, and it is not uncommon for there >> to be errors in the transcription. Especially if the original document >> is in poor condition or the handwriting is difficult to read. You are >> essentially at the mercy of the accuracy of the transcriber. So if some >> discrepancy ever turns up, you would be able make some evaluation of the >> credibility of sources by how long the gap is between the event and the >> source. >> >> If you interview an aging ancestor to get birth dates that happened 75 >> years ago, unless you can verify the dates from other more reliable >> sources, you should enter the date your ancestor was interviewed so that >> it is apparent to those who look at your data in generations to come that >> there was such a gap. If a better source shows up later, they can >> account for the discrepancy. >> >> In many cases, you will not be able to determine a reliable citation >> date, so that field will often be left blank. I remember some years ago >> visiting a cemetery outside London looking for a lost relative. The >> caretaker was very helpful to point out a shed in the corner where they >> kept the lawn mover and where there was a stack of old burial records. I >> was very excited to find 400 years of old records stacked in a dank >> corner but was less excited to discover that the entire stack of records >> were written in the same handwriting, meaning that someone recently had >> transcribed an enormous amount of information many many years after the >> fact. That is a problem. >> >> Richard Rands >> >> >> At 08:46 AM 6/24/2005 -0600, Melanie Petersen wrote: >> >>> Under the citation detail on the source screen, there is a field for >>> "Date Citation was made." What exactly does this mean? A publication >>> date? >>> There is already a space for publication info. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Melanie > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >

ROTFL! And here I've been thinking it was for "when did I put this source in here." [shakes head, wanders off, mumbling...] Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > Hi Melanie, > Richard Halliday's answer is a good one, but I'd like to add something > that will explain the purpose behind the "Date Citation was made" field. > > As Richard pointed out, there is often a gap between the date of the > event and the date the event was recorded. For example, it is not > uncommon to get a certified birth certificate from a vital records > office that is actually a certified document transcribed from some > original documents that you do not have access to. In this case the gap > between event and recording may be many years, and it is not uncommon > for there to be errors in the transcription. Especially if the original > document is in poor condition or the handwriting is difficult to read. > You are essentially at the mercy of the accuracy of the transcriber. So > if some discrepancy ever turns up, you would be able make some > evaluation of the credibility of sources by how long the gap is between > the event and the source. > > If you interview an aging ancestor to get birth dates that happened 75 > years ago, unless you can verify the dates from other more reliable > sources, you should enter the date your ancestor was interviewed so that > it is apparent to those who look at your data in generations to come > that there was such a gap. If a better source shows up later, they can > account for the discrepancy. > > In many cases, you will not be able to determine a reliable citation > date, so that field will often be left blank. I remember some years ago > visiting a cemetery outside London looking for a lost relative. The > caretaker was very helpful to point out a shed in the corner where they > kept the lawn mover and where there was a stack of old burial records. > I was very excited to find 400 years of old records stacked in a dank > corner but was less excited to discover that the entire stack of records > were written in the same handwriting, meaning that someone recently had > transcribed an enormous amount of information many many years after the > fact. That is a problem. > > Richard Rands > > > At 08:46 AM 6/24/2005 -0600, Melanie Petersen wrote: > >> Under the citation detail on the source screen, there is a field for >> "Date Citation was made." What exactly does this mean? A publication >> date? >> There is already a space for publication info. >> >> Thanks, >> Melanie

Hi Melanie, Richard Halliday's answer is a good one, but I'd like to add something that will explain the purpose behind the "Date Citation was made" field. As Richard pointed out, there is often a gap between the date of the event and the date the event was recorded. For example, it is not uncommon to get a certified birth certificate from a vital records office that is actually a certified document transcribed from some original documents that you do not have access to. In this case the gap between event and recording may be many years, and it is not uncommon for there to be errors in the transcription. Especially if the original document is in poor condition or the handwriting is difficult to read. You are essentially at the mercy of the accuracy of the transcriber. So if some discrepancy ever turns up, you would be able make some evaluation of the credibility of sources by how long the gap is between the event and the source. If you interview an aging ancestor to get birth dates that happened 75 years ago, unless you can verify the dates from other more reliable sources, you should enter the date your ancestor was interviewed so that it is apparent to those who look at your data in generations to come that there was such a gap. If a better source shows up later, they can account for the discrepancy. In many cases, you will not be able to determine a reliable citation date, so that field will often be left blank. I remember some years ago visiting a cemetery outside London looking for a lost relative. The caretaker was very helpful to point out a shed in the corner where they kept the lawn mover and where there was a stack of old burial records. I was very excited to find 400 years of old records stacked in a dank corner but was less excited to discover that the entire stack of records were written in the same handwriting, meaning that someone recently had transcribed an enormous amount of information many many years after the fact. That is a problem. Richard Rands At 08:46 AM 6/24/2005 -0600, Melanie Petersen wrote: >Under the citation detail on the source screen, there is a field for "Date >Citation was made." What exactly does this mean? A publication date? >There is already a space for publication info. > >Thanks, >Melanie

Regina, PS. Don't start from the Individual screen; start from the Family screen. Also, in the Definition, select Individual in the Relationship filter. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Craig" <regina_craig@yahoo.com.au> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] showing spouse in list > Hi Richard, and list > Thank you all for being so incredibly helpful! > Another question regarding the "married name" field. > I've started the long haul with typing names in, which > will be very useful when I've finished. > Now, I'm wondering... > On the Individual window, I note that I can > numerically sort the RIN column, can sort > ascending/descending full name column. What's the > chance, and how do I do it to make the Married Name > column sort ascending/descending? > Here's me being hopeful!! > > regards and thanks > > Regina > > > > > --- Richard Rands <rrands@cfmc.com> wrote: > >> At 12:55 PM 6/27/2005 -0400, alanjones10@cox.net >> wrote: >> >What do you do when they have >> >>married/divorced/married/divorced/married/widows/married? >> >> So far in my database the most number of spouse's >> names for one individual >> is 5. My tests show that the Married Name field is >> capable of handling up >> to about 120 characters. >> >> Richard Rands >> >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search >> > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >> >> > > > Genealogy website = http://www.geocities.com/regina_craig/ > Updated, fact only website = http://www.gencircles.com/users/regina1/4 > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >

Regina, You might try using an advanced focus/filter search. First put your find list in alphabetical order, rather than by RIN. If you are looking for people that you have already put a married namr on, then define your search by selecting Married Name and selecting Exists. If you are looking for people that do not have a married name listed, then design by selecting Married Name, Does Not Exist, Sex = Female and Marriage Status, Matches Married. Then you can edit the individuals. You may have to run a 2nd search where the Marriage Status matches Divorced, if you want to put former married names on the divorced individuals. I hope this helps. Dick Cazier Lakewood, Colorado USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Craig" <regina_craig@yahoo.com.au> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] showing spouse in list > Hi Richard, and list > Thank you all for being so incredibly helpful! > Another question regarding the "married name" field. > I've started the long haul with typing names in, which > will be very useful when I've finished. > Now, I'm wondering... > On the Individual window, I note that I can > numerically sort the RIN column, can sort > ascending/descending full name column. What's the > chance, and how do I do it to make the Married Name > column sort ascending/descending? > Here's me being hopeful!! > > regards and thanks > > Regina > > > > > --- Richard Rands <rrands@cfmc.com> wrote: > >> At 12:55 PM 6/27/2005 -0400, alanjones10@cox.net >> wrote: >> >What do you do when they have >> >>married/divorced/married/divorced/married/widows/married? >> >> So far in my database the most number of spouse's >> names for one individual >> is 5. My tests show that the Married Name field is >> capable of handling up >> to about 120 characters. >> >> Richard Rands >> >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search >> > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >> >> > > > Genealogy website = http://www.geocities.com/regina_craig/ > Updated, fact only website = http://www.gencircles.com/users/regina1/4 > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >