Barbara, This can be done in PAF with the Global Replace feature. What is not clear from your note is whether the "Submitted" phrase you want to get rid of is all that has been entered into the date field - or - whether there is a date element following the "Submitted" phrase that you want to keep. For example: The date field could contain "Submitted" and you simply want to delete that entry. (use Tools > Global Search and Replace for dates to replace "Submitted" with nothing - no entry in the Replace box) Or The date field could contain "Submitted 20 Jun 1995" and you might either want to delete "Submitted" and leave "20 Jun 1995" (use Tools > Global Search and Replace for dates to replace "Submitted " - note the space following the submitted phrase - with nothing) - or - delete the entire entry to blank out the field. (use Tools > Global Search and Replace for dates to replace "Submitted 20 Jun 1995" with nothing -- and would have to be done for each specific date used in the submitted phrase.) Regards, Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Lewis [mailto:lewisroots@comcast.net] Sent: 02 July 2005 20:06 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] getting submitted off 300 names Is there anyone who knows how to remove "submitted" off 300 names all at once...or does this have to be done one at a time like I'm used to doing........ Barb L. ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== AVG Anti-Virus Users Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab.

It really depends on the software design of the installation routine. I have some programs that the installer itself will uninstall the earlier version before continuing with the new. Poorly written installations may not properly update all the program files. And of course, there may be files used by the old version that are superfluous in the new, and if you install over the top, those stay behind, as may obsolete registry entries. I have other programs where the instructions specifically say to install over the top. I think the safest course is generally to uninstall first, re-boot, then install fresh. But like Stewart, I almost never do it that way and rarely have a problem. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Millar" <sm999@tiscali.co.uk> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: RE: [PAF-5] Match and Merge > Hi Rollei, > > I have noticed past posts that advise uninstalling before installing new > versions - I have never done it & never had a problem - I believe it is > perfectly safe to install over an old version - we are talking program files > here and not data files - the new installation version will only ever use > the new, newer or identically dated program files to the old version. > > If it is a worry, a better alternative I believe would be to install the new > PAF to a differently named program library (can still access the same paf > data file) - and that way you can have immediate access to both versions. > Also, this way - if something unforeseen does go wrong with the installation > of the new version and you have previously uninstalled the old version - you > are well and truly out on a limb with no PAF , old or new, on your pc. > > If the new version creates a change to the database format - normally > handled automatically on first opening of a paf database - a back up of the > old database can still be used by the old version (there is no change to > database format between 5.1 and 5.2.18). > > ==== Stewart > >

I am new to genealogy and my PAF 5.1 program. Many of my ancestors married first cousins and I just kept adding the ancestors. So I have a lot of the same people entered more that once. Finally I realized that I could just add the ancestor from "existing" I have tried to match and merge and ended up with a real mess. Double notes and double parents I know I am doing something wrong but no matter how many times I have tried I still can't get it right. Can someone please help me figure this out before I have to delete the files and start all over again. Thank-you so much --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

Double parents is usually caused by having two copies of the individual, with a separate but mostly identical set of parents for each individual. When you merge the individual, you then have two sets of parents. The next step is to merge the two fathers and the two mothers. That should take care of that problem. How notes are merged depends on the "Combine Notes" option in Match/Merge. I noticed that you said you have PAF 5.1. The latest version of PAF is 5.2.18. If that is not the version you are using, you should go to www.familysearch.org and get the latest. There are some significant bug fixes. For an easier time with merging, you might want to consider using PAF Insight. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: Teddy Markhart [mailto:foxfordgrad@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:55 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] Match and Merge I am new to genealogy and my PAF 5.1 program. Many of my ancestors married first cousins and I just kept adding the ancestors. So I have a lot of the same people entered more that once. Finally I realized that I could just add the ancestor from "existing" I have tried to match and merge and ended up with a real mess. Double notes and double parents I know I am doing something wrong but no matter how many times I have tried I still can't get it right. Can someone please help me figure this out before I have to delete the files and start all over again. Thank-you so much --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

I'm getting ready to upload some genealogy files to an online website. I would like to be able to include the sources in my gedcom file, but I want to block the repository portion of the source citation. Is there a way to do this? I have people's private contact information (I want this for myself) in the repository section, but I don't want this info. to be online for all to see. Any suggestions? Thanks, Melanie

Is there anyone who knows how to remove "submitted" off 300 names all at once...or does this have to be done one at a time like I'm used to doing........ Barb L.

Thanks to everyone who responded. Jim -----Original Message----- > > From: Web0513@aol.com > Date: 2005/06/30 Thu PM 01:10:52 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] PDA PAF software > > Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems > I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from > FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to > download from. > > Thanks > > Jim Webster > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ > >

PAF Pal has an option to remove "submitted" from all of the names in your file. It can be purchased for immediate download at www.ohanasoftware.com. It can also be purchased by mail order through www.cannonfam.org/pafpal or through www.ohanasoftware.com. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Lewis [mailto:lewisroots@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:06 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] getting submitted off 300 names Is there anyone who knows how to remove "submitted" off 300 names all at once...or does this have to be done one at a time like I'm used to doing........ Barb L. ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== AVG Anti-Virus Users Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab.

Hi I would like some help please, have started to use my paf program and as yet I have not asigned any folder for my files :- Tools - Preferences - Folders: PAF Files: Import/Export: Backup: Reports: Web Pages: I have two files in a folder together one named David Family another David Family.pal that I can find. I need to asign folders and put all the files that should be in each folder so that I can always find and transfer them because I want to be able to transfer the files between desktop computer and a lap top, when required. There are the two files David Family and David Family.pal Are they the only two files where data is stored? not having done any Import/Export. Backup, Reports, Webpages. Regards David.

Advanced Focus/Filter Individual Define Filter User Events Description Contains War - this keyword is picked up off the description >you< type in the Miliary Service Description field (or any other User Event). For example, along with the people I had described as serving in various 'war' events - it also picked up the name of David Wardrobe (from the 'war') in a Probate event description. It failed to recognized an individual who had 'served in the CSA' in the description field for Miliary Service Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm Affairs are easier of entrance than of exit; and it is but common prudence to see our way out before we venture in. Aesop

If you have a lot of stuff and want to keep it organized you can make a new folder anywhere. Mine is in "My Documents". Name it "Genealogy" and make sub folders, Backups, Gedcoms, Multimedia, PAF-5, and Reports. Then, go to PAF-5, Tools, Preferences and tell it where you want to keep your files under the "Folders" Tab. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Martin" <martin.d@paradise.net.nz> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: [PAF-5] PAF Files. Help Please? > Hi > I would like some help please, have started to use my paf program and > as > yet I have not asigned any folder for my files :- > > Tools - Preferences - Folders: PAF Files: Import/Export: Backup: > Reports: Web Pages: > > I have two files in a folder together one named David Family another David > Family.pal that I can find. > > I need to asign folders and put all the files that should be in each > folder > so that I can always find and transfer them because I want to be able to > transfer the files between desktop computer and a lap top, when required. > > > There are the two files David Family and David Family.pal > > Are they the only two files where data is stored? not having done any > Import/Export. Backup, Reports, Webpages. > > > > Regards David. > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >

PAF keeps most everything in 1 file. So that may be all you have. The one area of exception is if you start adding sounds, music, photos, movies, (multimedia) to your database - those files are not merged into the *.paf file. Also exported/imported GEDComs. Alan > From: David Martin <martin.d@paradise.net.nz> > Date: 2005/07/01 Fri PM 04:54:13 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] PAF Files. Help Please? > > Hi > I would like some help please, have started to use my paf program and as > yet I have not asigned any folder for my files :- > > Tools - Preferences - Folders: PAF Files: Import/Export: Backup: > Reports: Web Pages: > > I have two files in a folder together one named David Family another David > Family.pal that I can find. > > I need to asign folders and put all the files that should be in each folder > so that I can always find and transfer them because I want to be able to > transfer the files between desktop computer and a lap top, when required. > > > There are the two files David Family and David Family.pal > > Are they the only two files where data is stored? not having done any > Import/Export. Backup, Reports, Webpages. > > > > Regards David. > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > >

In a message dated 6/30/2005 9:31:45 PM Central Standard Time, alanjones10@cox.net writes: > > Until someone can tell us what size of font they can see and what size > they can not see, > Everything is opinion. How about going to a computer and keep adjusting > the font size > Until it is not confortable. Note the size of the font, and then people > can tell us > What PDAs can do that size. > OK. What I'm using here to write this is 14 which is very easy & comfortable for me, but I can get along with 12 or 10; what I have real trouble with is the size that's the default on PAF5 on the family view data entry screen ,& its notes screen. I've read that you can go into preferences & get a larger font but that hasn't worked for me; it just froze up my screen and didn't make the fonts larger. On the screens I've mentioned above, I have to use a magnifying glass to see if I"ve made a mistake entering data or not. Ethel in Nebraska

Hi David. The actual PAF database has the .paf file extension. There is no other database file needed when copying your database back and forth. It sounds to me like your Windows configuration is not showing that extension if you only see David Family. You can change that by changing the file configuration in Windows. The other file extensions used for the PAF system are as follows: .pal - logging changes. This is only created if you turn on the logging system. .par - report file for the submission file when creating a Temple Ready disk. .oup - temple ordinance data input file when running a Temple Ready disk in the Temple Ready program. .zip - backup file of the .paf database .lst - report files for messages, especially for errors when importing GEDCOM files. .ged - GEDCOM files .rtf - report files when sending printed reports to disk. Setting up a directory structure for your system is a personal preference. For what it is worth, here is how I have mine set up: PAF Data (top level) - PAF Master (directory for master databases) [PAF Files] - Family A (master database for family A) - Family B (master database for family B) - PAF Backup (for all .zip files) [Backup] - PAF Work (for all temporary databases where I load GEDCOMs to be verified and cleaned up) - PAF Reports (for all report files .rtf & .lst) [Reports] - GEDCOM (for all GEDCOM files coming in and going out) [Import/Export] - PAF Images (for all images) - Family A (images for family A, including photos and document images) - Family B (images for family B, including photos and document images) - PAF Web [Web Pages] - Family A (web files for family A) - Family B (web files for family B) With this format, I cannot always let PAF use the default that is set in the Preferences>Folders configuration. I have to navigate one level further when working with a specific family, or when I am working with PAF work files. Richard Rands At 08:54 AM 7/2/2005 +1200, David Martin wrote: >Hi > I would like some help please, have started to use my paf program and as >yet I have not asigned any folder for my files :- > >Tools - Preferences - Folders: PAF Files: Import/Export: Backup: >Reports: Web Pages: > >I have two files in a folder together one named David Family another David >Family.pal that I can find. > >I need to asign folders and put all the files that should be in each folder >so that I can always find and transfer them because I want to be able to >transfer the files between desktop computer and a lap top, when required. > > >There are the two files David Family and David Family.pal > >Are they the only two files where data is stored? not having done any >Import/Export. Backup, Reports, Webpages. > > > >Regards David. > > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >AVG Anti-Virus Users >Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab.

In a message dated 6/30/2005 8:03:12 PM Central Standard Time, alspace@cox.net writes: > What can I expect to see in a PDA with a > PAF? What about size of the type in the display? I am getting up in > years, and small print is a problem. I The above was a part of Jim Webster's questions which I haven't seen answered and would be very interested in the answer to this question too as I have the same problem & do not want to invest in all that would be involved & then not be able to see it! Ethel in Nebraska

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Elborn Mendenhall wrote: > My data file contains about 2500-3000 individuals, and in this regard how > large can the data file be in a PDA? My Handspring Visor Pro -- B/W, not color -- has more than 20,000 names etc. on PDA PAF software with no problem. It's about 4 years old. I'm a technodunce, and I was a bit surprised that I learned the _basics_ of using it without too much travail. There's a built-in tutorial for "Graffiti," which is the alphabet but some letters written a special way. That, too, I learned faster than I expected. You do want to practice at home, of course. I don't use the case that came with it; I wear a belt bag and it fits easily. There's a clever folding keyboard, which I confess I've never used. I recommend buying a "travel charger." Cheers, Dolly in Maryland

Jim Webster wrote the following: Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to download from. In this connection is a Palm PDA better than a PDA that uses the Microsoft OS? I am thinking of a PDA, and I don't really know enough to make a good choice. What should I look for in a PDA? Do I need to have the ability to have extra memory? What can I expect to see in a PDA with a PAF? What about size of the type in the display? I am getting up in years, and small print is a problem. I have even considered a Garmin Ique 3200, as it includes GPS and this might be useful when one finds a headstone in a cemetery. What about a camera? In fact, I would like to know advantages and disadvantages in using a PDA. The main reason I am considering a PDA is it would give me good portability without the weight and size of a laptop. I have a laptop, but it is slow, heavy, big at least in comparison to a PDA. My data file contains about 2500-3000 individuals, and in this regard how large can the data file be in a PDA?

Hi PAF Friends: I have a problem perhaps you can assist. Was attempting to search my database with Forcus for some of my database files using the Military Service as a filter. Was unable to find in the PAF Focus filter an entry for Military Service. In my database I have made numerious entries for "RevWar"; "Civ'War"; "World War I" and "World War II" plus the "Spanish American War!" I was want to search my database for each of these different wars and make a printout of each utilizing the Focus and filtering features. Can any one give me directions or point me towards assistance. Sincerely, Robert Bumgardner on gen1bob@charter.net

Until someone can tell us what size of font they can see and what size they can not see, Everything is opinion. How about going to a computer and keep adjusting the font size Until it is not confortable. Note the size of the font, and then people can tell us What PDAs can do that size. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: Genbug6607@aol.com [mailto:Genbug6607@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:26 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PDA PAF software In a message dated 6/30/2005 8:03:12 PM Central Standard Time, alspace@cox.net writes: > What can I expect to see in a PDA with a > PAF? What about size of the type in the display? I am getting up in > years, and small print is a problem. I The above was a part of Jim Webster's questions which I haven't seen answered and would be very interested in the answer to this question too as I have the same problem & do not want to invest in all that would be involved & then not be able to see it! Ethel in Nebraska ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

I have friends who swear by the Palm PDAs and other friends who swear by the Windows PDAs. Palm has been around longer but with windows you have access to the programs you run on your Regular PC. Either way, one thing I like was being able to have a docking station to plug my PDA into And have it automatically update according to the things I picked like my calendar, address book, Genealogy, etc. I think it is kind of a personal thing, I think people should go to the stores where you can hold them And look them over. Look for a county computer fair or other such things to see a wide variety of them. Also it is easy to compare things like the screens, they have a measurement in inches. You might also just want to consider one of the new super lightweight laptops. Alan Jones Mission Viejo, Calif. -----Original Message----- From: Elborn Mendenhall [mailto:alspace@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:03 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] PDA PAF software Jim Webster wrote the following: Have come screaming and kicking into the 21st century with a new PDA. Seems I recall there is a Palm OS version of PAF somewhere downloadable from FamilySearch; however, a quick check I failed to locate. Help on where to download from. In this connection is a Palm PDA better than a PDA that uses the Microsoft OS? I am thinking of a PDA, and I don't really know enough to make a good choice. What should I look for in a PDA? Do I need to have the ability to have extra memory? What can I expect to see in a PDA with a PAF? What about size of the type in the display? I am getting up in years, and small print is a problem. I have even considered a Garmin Ique 3200, as it includes GPS and this might be useful when one finds a headstone in a cemetery. What about a camera? In fact, I would like to know advantages and disadvantages in using a PDA. The main reason I am considering a PDA is it would give me good portability without the weight and size of a laptop. I have a laptop, but it is slow, heavy, big at least in comparison to a PDA. My data file contains about 2500-3000 individuals, and in this regard how large can the data file be in a PDA? ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/