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    1. Re: [PAF-5] 'memorize citation' - copying image information
    2. Richard Rands
    3. Hi Rosemary, This is a missing feature in the memorize citation tool. I suspect that the programmers ran out of time to add that to the feature. Richard Rands At 11:12 PM 8/8/2005 +0100, Rosemary Probert wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Just a quick question: > >When I use 'memorize citation' to copy all the information to another >individual - everything is copied except the image details, which I am >having to re-enter each time. Is there a way to include the image as well >as the 'actual text'? > >Thank you, > >Rosemary, >Northumberland UK > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >Replying to Posts >When quoting a post you're replying to, omit signatures and taglines that >are appended to the post.

    08/08/2005 09:59:30
    1. Re: [PAF-5] Need to move individuals to different generations
    2. You can find the unlink in the edit menu. Before you use it, this is one place where using the RINs is useful. If you write down the RINs of the individuals when you unlink them. it is a lot easier to add them to where they are supposed to be by using the recorded RINs. You can turn on the RIN display under the Preference>Name tab. After you are done, turn it back off is you like. I don't have a clue what is causing the other problem, but as you seem to indicate the positioning of the individuals may fix the problem. Bill > Got a call from a ward member tonight wanting to know why PAF was making > his 4-5-6 generations repeat in the 7-8-9 positions, and then in the > 10-11-12 positions, etc. > > I had him send me the Gedcom of his file so I could look at it. He's got > George (senior, b. 1886) in the place of George (jr. born 1917) and also > has others improperly linked (e.g. George, b. 1886 as son of John, b. > 1953, who is listed as son of Ronald, b. 1933). > > How do we unlink these men from the families and get them in the proper > order, without having to totally re-type the family entries (comprising > a total of 21 individuals when you count all the children, to say > nothing of THEIR marriages, children etc.!!) > > Thanks for any help -- I just don't know what topic to look under in the > help menu. > > Joyce Conklin

    08/08/2005 01:13:23
    1. Re: Diacritics in GEDCOM
    2. Regina Barry
    3. If you can, check to see if the German db (there should be an email for the administrator) supports Unicode - if it does, use that option. If not, ask the admin - it might use ANSI - all of those are options with PAF export. If youselect the gedcom radio button Other Gedcom (mid-page) you will get a selection of font options. It doesn't depend so much on what you can export as what the database receiving it can import. You need to match the recipient to make sure all your marks get transferred. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm How ridiculous and how strange to be surprised at anything which happens in life! Marcus Aurelius. Meditations, 12:13

    08/08/2005 12:56:37
    1. Need to move individuals to different generations
    2. Joyce Conklin
    3. Got a call from a ward member tonight wanting to know why PAF was making his 4-5-6 generations repeat in the 7-8-9 positions, and then in the 10-11-12 positions, etc. I had him send me the Gedcom of his file so I could look at it. He's got George (senior, b. 1886) in the place of George (jr. born 1917) and also has others improperly linked (e.g. George, b. 1886 as son of John, b. 1953, who is listed as son of Ronald, b. 1933). How do we unlink these men from the families and get them in the proper order, without having to totally re-type the family entries (comprising a total of 21 individuals when you count all the children, to say nothing of THEIR marriages, children etc.!!) Thanks for any help -- I just don't know what topic to look under in the help menu. Joyce Conklin bkwoman@comcast.net

    08/07/2005 05:09:50
    1. Re: Diacritics in GEDCOM
    2. Trudy Lundy
    3. I have a lot of German diacritics in my database -- to submit this info to a German language genealogy database does it matter which type of GEDCOM I select? Or do all the 5.5s support the German diacritics? Thanks. Trudy

    08/06/2005 09:42:35
    1. RE: Custom Reports
    2. Regina Barry
    3. The sort order is going to be determined by how you view your custom report. Right now, its sorting like an ASCII order - are you opening it in a different program? If you bring it out as tab delimited and open it in say, Excel; then sort the date column as a date-formatted field, it will do what you want. If the date column is formatted as text, it will sort differently. I did a test with my database, requesting Surname, FirstName; Marriage Date and Spouse. I then sorted it by Marriage date and printed it to an rtf file. It looks like it printed in correct date order - blanks first, then dates as shown in sample below; sorted by year, then month and date. Is this what you were looking for? CADLE, Bethena Harve 3 Jul 1836 W Henry MCKNIGHT R CUNNINGHAM, A 22 Mar 1838 Mary WILES PYLE, Octavius 22 Aug 1839 Sophronia MOORE COMBS, Alexander W 5 Aug 1840 Nancy Ann DYE DYE, Nancy Ann 5 Aug 1840 Alexander W COMBS COMBS, Catherine Ann 8 Feb 1842 Cortez PYLE PYLE, Cortez 8 Feb 1842 Catherine Ann COMBS CUNNINGHAM, A 20 May 1844 Samantha P CADLE KINCAID, Ann 14 Sep 1845 Patterson R CADLE CADLE, Patterson R 14 Sep 1845 Ann KINCAID MCELVAIN, Andrew 29 Oct 1845 Deborah COMBS COMBS, Deborah 29 Oct 1845 Andrew MCELVAIN HEARN, Allison Bef 1847 Martha CROFFORD CALHOUN, George S 18 Mar 1847 Nancy MOSBARGER MOSBARGER, Nancy 18 Mar 1847 Captain G S CALHOUN MATHEWS, Nathaniel J. 17 Oct 1847 Susannah M. TOLLS TOLLS, Susannah M. 17 Oct 1847 Nathaniel J. MATHEWS FRAKES, Gabriel Wilson 12 Oct 1848 Rebecca MILLER MILLER, Rebecca 12 Oct 1848 Gabriel Wilson FRAKES BLACK, Jane Wilson 30 Dec 1848 Zachariah P CADLE CADLE, Zachariah P 30 Dec 1848 Jane Wilson BLACK Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm

    08/03/2005 12:40:06
    1. Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer
    2. Alan Whitcomb
    3. It has been suggested that I correct my reference from a "pen drive" to a flash drive. Whatever is best to call the USB. Sometime I will find a useful simple way to describe the USB solid state random access memory device. Sorry for any confusion. But those devices are great if all the computers you use have USB ports. On 8/2/05, Alan Whitcomb <alan.whitcomb@gmail.com> wrote: > I have the BEST idea for using PAF on your laptop and syncing with > your desktop. I got the idea here.. PAF will install on to a > pendrive. I gave my wife as a present a pendrive as a present with > PAF already installed. She takes it to the FHC, or plugs it into her > laptop or her computer at home. > > We have PAF 4 and 5, and PAF Insight on the pendrive and have plenty of space. >

    08/02/2005 12:27:11
    1. RE: [PAF-5] Custom Reports
    2. Stewart Millar
    3. Hi Doug, I have my Tools > Preferences > Formats (for dates) set to DMY both for entry and display. Any Custom Report generated with dates and sorted by date always properly sorts the date into true chronological sequence - putting all the Abt/Est/Bef year dates, ie Abt 1865 as the first entries for that given year and any dates with month and year but no day as the first entries for the given month. Even with the "display date" setting to YMD the reports still display in true chronological sequence - as you require. I just cannot get PAF to do the date sort the "wrong" way. However - it is possible your problem is in your statement . . . . " I sort by the man's surname" . . . . - technically, you cannot sort by the surname alone - only by the surname and given name -or - by the full name (other way round - given name and surname) -------- therefore, the true sequence is the name sequence and you will only have entries sorted by date when you have identically named individuals. What do you think? Regards, Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Doug Plowman [mailto:dplowman@newnorth.net] Sent: 01 August 2005 23:19 To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] Custom Reports Hello: I ran a custom marriage reports and I wanted to sort the marriage date in ascending order. The report sorts by the day of month, month and year. I would like it to sort by the year, then month and day. The marriage date is my second sort field, after I sort by the man's surname. The report will list the 10 Jun 1842 and the 12 Jun 1831 since it sorts first on the day and then month and then year. I would prefer to have the 12 Jun 1831 be shown prior to the 10 Jun 1842. Is there a way to correct this or set a differant preference. Thanks in advance. Doug ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

    08/02/2005 10:49:58
    1. Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer
    2. Alan Whitcomb
    3. I have the BEST idea for using PAF on your laptop and syncing with your desktop. I got the idea here.. PAF will install on to a pendrive. I gave my wife as a present a pendrive as a present with PAF already installed. She takes it to the FHC, or plugs it into her laptop or her computer at home. We have PAF 4 and 5, and PAF Insight on the pendrive and have plenty of space. On 7/30/05, Dick Cazier <dcazier@comcast.net> wrote: > Gary and Rollie, > Thanks to both of you for your very clear and concise instructions and > comments. > Dick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@comcast.net> > To: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> > Cc: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer > > > > See inserted comments. > > > > Gary Templeman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> > > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer > > > > > >> Hi Group, > >> Somehow I missed this thread or deleted it, thinking I didn't need to > > worry > >> about it. I have now purchased a laptop computer to take with me on > >> research trips. So I need to transfer/copy, or whatever term is > >> appropriate, my master file (over 32,000 individuals) from my tower > > computer > >> to my laptop. Both computers have Windows XP Home Edition, with Service > >> Pack II installed. My need for help is about the following items. > >> > >> 1. Downloading PAF5. I have the setup file still on my tower computer > >> desktop. Should I transfer that file to my laptop and install from > >> there, > >> or is it better to go directly to the website and download from there? > > > > If you have a broadband connection it is probably a wash, but with dial-up > > it will definitely be faster to transfer from the desktop to the laptop. > > The > > file is the exact same file, so the source doesn't matter. The choice is > > totally your preference. BTW, I suggest making a folder on the hard drive > > (NOT on the desktop screen) called downloads, and store all the downloaded > > program installation files in sub-folders within the download folder. That > > will help uncluttered your desktop screen, and saving the install files > > means you don't have to navigate to the web site and download over again > > should you need to re-install (unless a program has been updated). > > > >> > >> 2. Moving Data from one computer to the other. I plan to put my entire > >> database on the laptop initially. I want to be able to add information > >> to > >> either one; mostly the laptop, while traveling for research purposes, and > >> then transfer it to my tower computer. I know there has been much > >> discussion concerning the importance, or lack of importance, of RINs and > >> keeping them the same for each individual when info is transferred. > >> Until > > I > >> actually experience transferring and adding new data, then transferring > >> it > >> back to the other computer, I'd like to keep existing people with > >> constant > >> associated RINs and newly added people winding up with the same RINs > >> after > >> transfers in either direction. I'm afraid transferring the data via a > >> GEDCOM won't maintain the RINs like I want them to. > > > > Correct. Go to File_Backup and make a backup file, then take that file on > > a > > CDE, flash drive or the multiple floppies to the laptop, start PAF 5 and > > go > > to File_Restore. Select the file you just created (say, cazier.zip) and go > > through the restore process. It will transfer EXACTLY as you have it now, > > RIN's, etc. Remember to also manually transfer any folders of multimedia > > to > > the exact same path on the laptop if you want the links to work. > > > >> > >> Can someone give me baby step instructions on what kind of files to > >> create > >> and how to transfer them. My tower has a CD-RW drive and my laptop has a > >> DVD-CD ROM drive. I also have a 3.5" floppy drive in each computer, but > >> using a backup file still takes more than one disk to hold the data. > >> > >> Thanks for your help. > >> Dick Cazier > >> Lakewood, Colorado > >> USA > >> > > > > The biggest potential problem I see is in keeping the data in sync. If you > > accidentally take a backup from the computer with older data and restore > > it > > on the one you have been using for data entry, all the new data will be > > wiped out. Even having a historical backup will not replace the lost > > entries. While it is possible to use something like PAF Insight to keep > > things in sync, it is definitely safer to pick one computer and stick with > > it, or be absolutely religious in keeping a record of which computer has > > the > > most current information if you do not want to be doing the same data > > entry > > 2 or more times. > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > >

    08/02/2005 10:42:18
    1. Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer
    2. Richard Rands
    3. Alan's idea is a fine idea. In fact, the Silicon Valley Computer Genealogy group is selling 128Mb Flash Drives with PAF 5.2.18 already installed. The price is our cost plus shipping. Check out www.svcomputergenealogy.org or www.svpafug.org If you wish to install PAF on your own flash drive, you will have to do it from a machine that does not already have PAF installed on it because the install program will detect that you already have PAF installed and ask if you want to upgrade or uninstall. Also you should be aware that if you run PAF from your flash drive on a machine that has never had PAF installed, the PAF program will install the entries in the Windows Registry that hold the preferences you want to set. When you unplug your flash drive, those Registry entries are NOT removed and will remain there forever unless someone removes them. As far as I can tell, these entries are benign, but if you set some preferences while you are running, they will be picked up by whoever happens to run PAF on that machine the next time. Richard Rands At 04:42 PM 8/2/2005 +0200, Alan Whitcomb wrote: >I have the BEST idea for using PAF on your laptop and syncing with >your desktop. I got the idea here.. PAF will install on to a >pendrive. I gave my wife as a present a pendrive as a present with >PAF already installed. She takes it to the FHC, or plugs it into her >laptop or her computer at home. > >We have PAF 4 and 5, and PAF Insight on the pendrive and have plenty of >space. > >On 7/30/05, Dick Cazier <dcazier@comcast.net> wrote: > > Gary and Rollie, > > Thanks to both of you for your very clear and concise instructions and > > comments. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@comcast.net> > > To: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> > > Cc: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer > > > > > > > See inserted comments. > > > > > > Gary Templeman > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> > > > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] ?moving PAF to new computer > > > > > > > > >> Hi Group, > > >> Somehow I missed this thread or deleted it, thinking I didn't need to > > > worry > > >> about it. I have now purchased a laptop computer to take with me on > > >> research trips. So I need to transfer/copy, or whatever term is > > >> appropriate, my master file (over 32,000 individuals) from my tower > > > computer > > >> to my laptop. Both computers have Windows XP Home Edition, with Service > > >> Pack II installed. My need for help is about the following items. > > >> > > >> 1. Downloading PAF5. I have the setup file still on my tower computer > > >> desktop. Should I transfer that file to my laptop and install from > > >> there, > > >> or is it better to go directly to the website and download from there? > > > > > > If you have a broadband connection it is probably a wash, but with > dial-up > > > it will definitely be faster to transfer from the desktop to the laptop. > > > The > > > file is the exact same file, so the source doesn't matter. The choice is > > > totally your preference. BTW, I suggest making a folder on the hard drive > > > (NOT on the desktop screen) called downloads, and store all the > downloaded > > > program installation files in sub-folders within the download folder. > That > > > will help uncluttered your desktop screen, and saving the install files > > > means you don't have to navigate to the web site and download over again > > > should you need to re-install (unless a program has been updated). > > > > > >> > > >> 2. Moving Data from one computer to the other. I plan to put my entire > > >> database on the laptop initially. I want to be able to add information > > >> to > > >> either one; mostly the laptop, while traveling for research > purposes, and > > >> then transfer it to my tower computer. I know there has been much > > >> discussion concerning the importance, or lack of importance, of RINs and > > >> keeping them the same for each individual when info is transferred. > > >> Until > > > I > > >> actually experience transferring and adding new data, then transferring > > >> it > > >> back to the other computer, I'd like to keep existing people with > > >> constant > > >> associated RINs and newly added people winding up with the same RINs > > >> after > > >> transfers in either direction. I'm afraid transferring the data via a > > >> GEDCOM won't maintain the RINs like I want them to. > > > > > > Correct. Go to File_Backup and make a backup file, then take that file on > > > a > > > CDE, flash drive or the multiple floppies to the laptop, start PAF 5 and > > > go > > > to File_Restore. Select the file you just created (say, cazier.zip) > and go > > > through the restore process. It will transfer EXACTLY as you have it now, > > > RIN's, etc. Remember to also manually transfer any folders of multimedia > > > to > > > the exact same path on the laptop if you want the links to work. > > > > > >> > > >> Can someone give me baby step instructions on what kind of files to > > >> create > > >> and how to transfer them. My tower has a CD-RW drive and my laptop > has a > > >> DVD-CD ROM drive. I also have a 3.5" floppy drive in each computer, but > > >> using a backup file still takes more than one disk to hold the data. > > >> > > >> Thanks for your help. > > >> Dick Cazier > > >> Lakewood, Colorado > > >> USA > > >> > > > > > > The biggest potential problem I see is in keeping the data in sync. > If you > > > accidentally take a backup from the computer with older data and restore > > > it > > > on the one you have been using for data entry, all the new data will be > > > wiped out. Even having a historical backup will not replace the lost > > > entries. While it is possible to use something like PAF Insight to keep > > > things in sync, it is definitely safer to pick one computer and stick > with > > > it, or be absolutely religious in keeping a record of which computer has > > > the > > > most current information if you do not want to be doing the same data > > > entry > > > 2 or more times. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > > > > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index >Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! >http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

    08/02/2005 04:25:40
    1. Custom Reports
    2. Doug Plowman
    3. Hello: I ran a custom marriage reports and I wanted to sort the marriage date in ascending order. The report sorts by the day of month, month and year. I would like it to sort by the year, then month and day. The marriage date is my second sort field, after I sort by the man's surname. The report will list the 10 Jun 1842 and the 12 Jun 1831 since it sorts first on the day and then month and then year. I would prefer to have the 12 Jun 1831 be shown prior to the 10 Jun 1842. Is there a way to correct this or set a differant preference. Thanks in advance. Doug

    08/01/2005 11:18:47
    1. Re: [PAF-5] Custom Reports
    2. Richard Rands
    3. Hi Doug, Yes. You can change this by setting the Date format in Tools>Preferences>Format>Date Display Styles to YMD. That will cause the dates in your custom reports to be output in YMD format and it looks like it will even keep the months in chronological order instead of alphabetical order. Once you print your report, you can go back and set the Date Style back to DMY. Richard Rands At 05:18 PM 8/1/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Hello: > I ran a custom marriage reports and I wanted to sort the marriage date >in ascending order. >The report sorts by the day of month, month and year. I would like it to >sort by the year, then month and day. The marriage date is my second sort >field, after I sort by the man's surname. The report will list the 10 Jun >1842 and the 12 Jun 1831 since it sorts first on the day and then month and >then year. I would prefer to have the 12 Jun 1831 be shown prior to the 10 >Jun 1842. Is there a way to correct this or set a differant preference. > >Thanks in advance. > > >Doug > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: >Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

    08/01/2005 10:00:15
    1. RE: roman numerals
    2. Regina Barry
    3. The lower-case roman numbers are a standard format with certain numbering systems - like the Register system see for a big explanation. http://www.saintclair.org/numbers/ Global Search and Replace might work, but you'd have to do each page. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm

    08/01/2005 12:22:23
    1. Re: [PAF-5] How/Where do I include lots of research information?
    2. Brad Paul
    3. Rosemary, What a wonderful resource you have! Sources and notes are what makes genealogy special. You have a gold mine! Paf now has what it takes to add all the special things to your file. But it takes time and maybe a tear or two to learn everything. Look at the help menu and click on lessons. Also note that every fact can be backed up by a " citation" that's what I would call a source. It first I didn't realize you can add more than one citation - source. These citations are added by pushing on the "s" button by each fact. Exact text can be typed in and printed or not printed in some or the reports etc. Also images of these documents can be attach ( These can be looked at from database but are not printed in any report.But can be shared along with your database if you want.) Your pictures can be added to a scrapbook for each person. Also one picture for each person can be printed on many reports if you want. The whole scrapbook can be printed too. Learn how to use tags on your notes. As you get started, after going through the lessons ask specify questions there is so much in the program that's great-- but it has make a hair or two a little grayer some times- so ask when you have a question. Rosemary Paul Rosemary Probert <rosemary@prob.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Hello All, I am very new to PAF: in fact this is the first genealogical programme I have used even though I have been doing family history for nearly 25 years. I have developed a system for keeping notes of all the research done on one family - whether successful or not - including correspondence, transcripts, photocopies, images, certificates, photos etc etc. All these notes for each family are based on one file. Can anyone suggest ways to incorporate this information into PAF, with the minimum of tears? Thank you Rosemary, Northumberland UK ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

    07/31/2005 11:57:05
    1. roman numerals
    2. Hans-Christian Scherzer
    3. Hi there, does anybody know ho to change the roman numerals which are displayed with small characters ('i', 'ii',etc.) within automatically constructed PAF-web-pages to capital letters ('I', 'II', etc.) ? Regards Hans-Christian

    07/31/2005 07:38:59
    1. Re: World Connect
    2. Trudy Lundy
    3. I, too, have my database at World Connect. I have a question -- if one takes their database down at World Connect does the information still remain at Ancestry.com? Trudy

    07/30/2005 12:34:36
    1. RE: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations
    2. Lance
    3. There is of course another way of adding to the FHC's collections and that is for patrons, who can afford to, to donate items. I have done this in the past at the FHC I used at the time. And I know many others did the same. Just approach the Director of your local FHC if you can assist in that way. Even something as simple as ordering in sets of microfiche can go a long way to building up the collection. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Terry Steer [mailto:terry.steer@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2005 3:52 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations There is a misconception that all Family History Centres have the same holdings in their libraries. This is not so. They have to buy most of the helps that the Church publishes - eg. Pedigree Resource File. My local FHC does not have this as we cannot afford it. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia J Weisshaus" <patjw28@earthlink.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations >I think maybe the answer is yes, they are shown in the Pedigree Resource >Files which are available at the Family History Centers. > > Pat

    07/30/2005 10:28:54
    1. Online sourcing of Gedcoms
    2. Charlotte Geier
    3. There is another point one might consider when viewing gedcoms posted online which do not show sources ( or notes). Though some have recommended not putting personal data into such sources (or notes), many of us do. This includes mailing addresses and phone numbers in the source data, and very personal information in the notes. It is for this reason than I have chosen to have Rootsweb 'turn off' my sources and notes. However, I do have a message posted that individuals may contact me if they need further data on where I obtained my information. This still enables researchers to find connections, and have a contact point for the sources or repositories of my data, while still protecting personal and private information. It is not a matter of being selfish or worrying that someone will copy 'MY' data because I gladly share with those who need it. For me, a database comprised only of dates, marriages, and children or other dry 'facts' is of minimal use. It's all those personal details that help to bring all these relationships 'alive' for me, and my main reason for collating the information in my database. I feel certain this is among the reasons that many others do not post sources and citations online, as well. Charlotte Clarke Geier http://community.webshots.com/user/barnchaser http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=charlotte_geier

    07/30/2005 04:50:01
    1. Shared info w/ and w/o sources
    2. Regina Barry
    3. I struck a compromise on this - I used to post everything - full details (one line of info - xxxx lines of sources & citations, rather like the Complete Peerage); and then I switched to a compromise w/ Source Titles - its a feature you can switch on when creating web pages (reports, books or anything else in PAF 5). That way a researcher at least has a clue where to search - or they can get the full citation if they email me and ask. I hope they come back and look at the updates - I always get a few emails from someone down the chain who asks me about a piece of info - by them time they got the much-copied around info, I had determined some new info and re-posted myself; updating my own pages. I post my own web pages made out of PAF - which also allows you the option of creating a downloadable gedcom to go with them. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm

    07/30/2005 01:32:50
    1. Re: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations
    2. Terry Steer
    3. There is a misconception that all Family History Centres have the same holdings in their libraries. This is not so. They have to buy most of the helps that the Church publishes - eg. Pedigree Resource File. My local FHC does not have this as we cannot afford it. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia J Weisshaus" <patjw28@earthlink.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations >I think maybe the answer is yes, they are shown in the Pedigree Resource >Files which are available at the Family History Centers. > > Pat > > At 05:13 PM 7/29/2005, alanjones10@cox.net wrote: >>The citations are accepted. I believe that they are only shown on the CDs. >>The CDs can be veiwed in any of the 4,000+ Family History Centers. >> >> >> > >> > From: "Rollei Little" <rollei_little@hotmail.com> >> > Date: 2005/07/29 Fri PM 04:25:19 EDT >> > To: alanjones10@cox.net, PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Lack of Internet citations >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Correct me if I'm wrong but the familysearch site doesn't accept >> citations. >> > Unless I'm doing something wrong. I have submitted several database >> entries, >> > all with citations, but when I check back (once it's been processed), >> > citations aren't shown. >> > Maybe it's me????? >> > >> > Rollei >> > >> > <SNIP> >> > > >> > >There is one site I know of that will accept our genealogy postings >> > >and >> > >they do not sell ad space, it is www.familysearch.org On that site >> > >the >> > >database PRF is the one we can contribute to. It is done under the >> > >SHARE >> > >tab. Of course lazy people may not provide their sources here too. Yes >> this >> > >site is sponsored by the LDS Church, but they never ever sell >> genealogy for >> > >profit. >> > > >> > <SNIP> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >>==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >>PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >>http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > >

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