In addition to Alan's excellent advice, it is important to determine WHY you have those duplicates so the problem does not return. There are two main reasons. Either you entered the same information twice, or you have imported GEDCOM files from someone/somewhere else or downloaded from the Internet. If you recently imported a GEDCOM, you might be able to restore a backup file created before the import and thereby wipe out all the duplicates brought in that way. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bartretrd@aol.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Duplicate Individuals > > In a message dated 10/15/2005 10:28:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, > MEsser112@aol.com writes: > > In the Indivual list I have discovered many duplicates with two different > RIN > numbers. > 1. Identical information, but with two RIN numbers. > 2.Identical information except one RIN with S -Spouse, and a different RIN > with P-Parent. > > > > If you have a lot of these duplicates, then you need to purchase a copy of > PAF Insight (www. ohanasoftware.com) _PAF Insight - Essential tools for the PAF > User_ (http://www.ohanasoftware.com/) . It has a function that will help > you to eliminate the duplicates without losing any data. It also has a > function that will allow you to see what unconnected pedigrees are floating around > in your file so you can see where to get them reconnected (assuming that > they should be part of your main pedigree) or eliminated (assuming you do not > think they actually fit anywhere or you can't determine where they should be > connected). There are help files in the program to tell you how to use it and > they have a FAQ section to answer question on their website. It will be the > best $20 you ever spent. > Alan > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >

In a message dated 10/15/2005 10:28:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, MEsser112@aol.com writes: In the Indivual list I have discovered many duplicates with two different RIN numbers. 1. Identical information, but with two RIN numbers. 2.Identical information except one RIN with S -Spouse, and a different RIN with P-Parent. If you have a lot of these duplicates, then you need to purchase a copy of PAF Insight (www. ohanasoftware.com) _PAF Insight - Essential tools for the PAF User_ (http://www.ohanasoftware.com/) . It has a function that will help you to eliminate the duplicates without losing any data. It also has a function that will allow you to see what unconnected pedigrees are floating around in your file so you can see where to get them reconnected (assuming that they should be part of your main pedigree) or eliminated (assuming you do not think they actually fit anywhere or you can't determine where they should be connected). There are help files in the program to tell you how to use it and they have a FAQ section to answer question on their website. It will be the best $20 you ever spent. Alan

In the Indivual list I have discovered many duplicates with two different RIN numbers. 1. Identical information, but with two RIN numbers. 2.Identical information except one RIN with S -Spouse, and a different RIN with P-Parent. 1. Should I eliminate the 2nd identical information with the higher RIN number? 2. Should I eliminate anything in this instance? I don't know how this happened, unless the info was added at different times and a RIN number was given each time. Also, there was at least one instance when I went back to check on something, and whole sections were missing. I might have forgotten to save one individual, but not a whole section. What should I do to keep this from happening? Thanks for any help you can give me. (also need help in removing the underline :) Marilyn

Hello, all PAF experts!! I have tried to produce a family group sheet (it happened, when I first started using this program) but all I get, now, is that really weird-looking '.rtf' version, even when I print it off. I have no way to use the 'so strange' .rtf version, on several sheets of paper, when all I want is one sheet, or at the most, two. Please, kindly advise this old fat dummy!! Joe DUKE ----- Original Message ----- From: <PAF-5-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: PAF-5-USERS-D Digest V05 #199 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

PAF & Service Pack 2 Our group has some problems with Windows XP SP2 and PAF no longer printing. It turned out the problem was 2 fold and had to do witht he new security settings in SP2 What we found had to be done was to upgrade the printer drivers, and uninstall restart the computer and reinstall PAF. Once that was done on the affect Computers it has worked fine ever since. Clive Carpenter NZPAFUG -----Original Message----- From: John Vilburn [mailto:john@ohanasoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:54 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PAF-5] SP2 Definitely download SP2 and all the other security updates from Microsoft. They work fine with PAF. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: Patricia J Weisshaus [mailto:patjw28@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:09 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. Pat ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/ ______________________________

It depends on the hard copy you re trying to produce - for an individual summary, the marriages should all show up for a book the other marriages should show up, depending on if it is descendany (yes, if there were descendants) or ancestry (no... that's direct line) for a family group sheet, any given fgs is a 'unit union (couple and their children by birth or adoption); but there is a box on the lower center of the screen which if checked,. will list other marriages on the fgs. It won't print all two or three of them at once, but it will display the other spouses on the 'parents' page of the fgs. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm If you believe that it is possible to break, believe it is also possible to fix. Reb Nachman of Breslov (1772-1810)

Hello All If a person marries more than once can that Marriage show on a "hard copy" ? Have been typing and deleting for the last hour. Also what about surname, 1st and subsequent Marriages only show maiden name ? Many thanks Kind Regards Kate (Sydney, Australia)

Were you using PAF 5.2? What kind of printer was it? What operating system? We applied SP 2 to the 10 PCs in our FHC - no problem. I did it to my PC, my laptop, my work PC, and many members and have no problem. Didn't need to update any drivers. > From: "Clive W Carpenter" <xtr280015@xtra.co.nz> > Date: 2005/10/13 Thu PM 01:30:24 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [PAF-5] SP2 > > PAF & Service Pack 2 > > Our group has some problems with Windows XP SP2 and PAF no longer printing. > > It turned out the problem was 2 fold and had to do witht he new security > settings in SP2 > > What we found had to be done was to upgrade the printer drivers, and > uninstall restart the computer and reinstall PAF. > > Once that was done on the affect Computers it has worked fine ever since. > > Clive Carpenter > NZPAFUG > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Vilburn [mailto:john@ohanasoftware.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:54 PM > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [PAF-5] SP2 > > > Definitely download SP2 and all the other security updates from Microsoft. > They work fine with PAF. > > Aloha, > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia J Weisshaus [mailto:patjw28@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:09 AM > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 > > > Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with > PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems > anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been > advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. > > Pat > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/ > > ______________________________ > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS > >

Has anyone had this problem: Using PAF companion, when I run a register report with notes included, where an apostrophe should appear there is an inverted question mark (the Spanish question mark)?

I'm not sure this will help but I wrestled with a similar problem many years ago. I created a fictitious ancestor like "Big Daddy" and linked him to both ancestors. Do it in a new file so you don't screw up what you already have. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Pasterham" <gopuppygo@hotmail.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] sending PAF tree to a non-GEDCOM user > > > >>From: Klenksy@aol.com >>To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [PAF-5] sending PAF tree to a non-GEDCOM user >>Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:48:34 EDT >> > <snip> >>You first have to create the html file. It helps to find the html file >>later, >>if you save it to the desktop when you create it. Then open it by >>launching >>your browser software and then choose "Open" from the File Menu of your >>browser >>software. ..... > > <snip> > > .... > > <snip> > > Thank you so much; I've used the "books" and the "web page" settings, with > excellent results :-) > > I now have a supplementary question: My family tree goes back to John > Bloggs (for example) in the 1700s on one side, and Mary Smith (for > example) in the 1700s on the other side. When I choose John Bloggs as the > earliest descendant, I get a "book" or "page" of the Bloggs descendancy. > How do I get a book that includes John Bloggs and Mary Smith, down to > where their descendants intersect and become the one family and to the > present? I have all individuals on the one PAF file. > > Thanks, > Pat. >> >> >>==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >>FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >>http://www.familysearch.org/ >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet > has to offer. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > >

I installed SP2 long ago and have had NO problems with PAF or any other program. > From: Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net> > Date: 2005/10/12 Wed PM 04:08:46 EDT > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 > > Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with > PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems > anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been > advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. > > Pat > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/ > >

Definitely download SP2 and all the other security updates from Microsoft. They work fine with PAF. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: Patricia J Weisshaus [mailto:patjw28@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:09 AM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. Pat ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

>From: Klenksy@aol.com >To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] sending PAF tree to a non-GEDCOM user >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:48:34 EDT > <snip> >You first have to create the html file. It helps to find the html file >later, >if you save it to the desktop when you create it. Then open it by launching >your browser software and then choose "Open" from the File Menu of your >browser >software. ..... <snip> .... <snip> Thank you so much; I've used the "books" and the "web page" settings, with excellent results :-) I now have a supplementary question: My family tree goes back to John Bloggs (for example) in the 1700s on one side, and Mary Smith (for example) in the 1700s on the other side. When I choose John Bloggs as the earliest descendant, I get a "book" or "page" of the Bloggs descendancy. How do I get a book that includes John Bloggs and Mary Smith, down to where their descendants intersect and become the one family and to the present? I have all individuals on the one PAF file. Thanks, Pat. > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/ > _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. Pat

Some people had problems with SP2 due to other conflicts, and I believe that at that time SP2 was blamed for a multitude of woes, including other PAF-5 problems. I am running SP2 on XP home and XP pro machines and PAF-5 runs fine. Stu At 01:08 PM 12/10/2005, you wrote: >Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with >PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems >anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been >advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. > >Pat > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/ > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/130 - Release Date: 12/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/130 - Release Date: 12/10/2005

Here's more detail on my earlier messages. I went through this with a PAF file and wrote down the following. This will give you a PDF file or a RTF file of your PAF Book Report. (I realize that only a few will be interested in this, but once one gets started trying to figure this all out, it's hard to let go. A learning experience!) -Open PAF file, in Family View, and put earliest ancestor in primary position; be sure his box is highlighted/selected. -Go to --> File --> PrintReports--> Books -->Modified Register (Descendancy). -Choose options, as mentioned in earlier message. -To create a PDF file, do _not_ check box, Print to File. -Hit Preview; report opens on screen. -Pull down Print; Acrobat PDFWriter window opens. -Choose option - All Pages; Hit OK button. -Next window is "Save PDF File AS" -Choose location where you want file saved to; give file a name; save as type PDF file; check to view PDF file; hit Save button. -Report opens on screen; Pull down View and choose Zoom In; repeat until text is large enough to read (or use key command); you can click arrow at bottom of screen to view the next page(s). -When you send the PDF file, the receiver can open it with the free Acrobat Reader and print it out. In PDF format, they may only be able to read or print file, unless there was an option under Preferences that I didn't notice. If they want to get at part of the file, or edit the entire file, they can do a "Select All" and Copy and Paste it into a word processing file. ----------------------------- -To create a RTF file, follow first directions above, but _do_ check box, Print to File. -Hit Preview. -With document open, hit Print button at top of screen. -Next window opens - "Save As" window; choose location where to save; give file a name; choose Save as Type RTF; hit Save. -File gets saved in RTF and opens in your word processor. Valerie Gibbs

I received a private message and I thought it might be helpful to post my reply here. I've deleted the name. In a message dated 10/11/2005 6:23:51 PM, >Please continue with your suggestion, after "Also". You left out a lot >of steps after "Descendants" as there is no place to select Print. When >I click on Next it doesn't lead anywhere either. You first have to create the html file. It helps to find the html file later, if you save it to the desktop when you create it. Then open it by launching your browser software and then choose "Open" from the File Menu of your browser software. Look in the dialog window until you find the html file you created and then select and open the html file. Then choose "Print" from the File Menu of your browser software. To create an html file, open the PAF file. Choose the family view and put earliest ancestor in the primary position. Pull down Tools and select Create Web Page. Under Type of page, choose Descendants. Then choose the Notes options you prefer and the other options. Then hit the Next button. Give page a name and hit the Finish button. Follow the next screens and the html file will open on your computer screen. It appears you can only print the pages one at a time. I don't see how to tell the program to print the whole html file all at once, but perhaps it is possible. It creates a PDF file which then opens with Adobe Acrobat and you then give another command to print one page (which is just part of the report). >In your 1st paragraph you refer to save in wp format. Wp stands for WordPerfect >and it doesn't work either. No, my use of "wp" is an abbreviation for word processing; I indicated this in parentheses the first time I used "wp". I believe it would be easier in PAF to go to File -> Print Reports -> Books -> Modified Register (Descendancy) and create a report and save as rtf and send it, or open the rtf file in your wp (word processor) and save, if possible, in the word processing format that the relative uses and send, or open in your word processor and save as html and send. Your relative can open an html file with his browser. This particular html file, created with a word processor, will then display the entire report as one page which can then be printed in its entirety with one print command. I tried it and it works, however some of the notes are missing in the Print Preview mode, although they are displayed when the html file is on the screen. I don't know what is causing this to happen. Perhaps the easiest way is to create a report and save as an rtf file and send it, or open the rtf file in your wp (word processor) and save, if possible, in the word processing format that the relative uses and send. Valerie Gibbs

In a message dated 10/11/2005 12:34:31 AM, gopuppygo@hotmail.com writes: >Is there a way to convert my PAF file of information into, eg, a Word doc, >so that I can email it as an attachment to a relative who does not have >GEDCOM? To add to my earlier message: In PAF, you can go to File -> Print Reports -> Books -> Modified Register (Descendancy) and create a report and save as rtf and send it, or open the rtf file in your wp (word processor) and save in wp format that relative uses and send, or open in your wp and save as html and send. Your relative can open an html file with his browser. Also, with your earliest ancestor in the primary position (not sure if this is needed), choose Tools -> Create Web Page -> Descendants. This will create an html file which you can send and your relative can open with his browser. I believe he can also print this out. Valerie Gibbs

I has nothing to do with Acrobat at all. You must make sure that when Companion was installed that it insatlled the PDF Exchange Software as a Printer Driver. You DO not need to set it as the Default Printer Driver either. But the right number needs to be there. Companion 5.15 had Version 2.0 Companion 5.2 has Version 2.5 CLive Carpenter NZPAFUG -----Original Message----- From: John Vilburn [mailto:john@ohanasoftware.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:45 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PAF-5] PDF is not found Your problem may be that the default printer for your computer is set to a PDF driver rather than a regular printer. And if the PDF driver has been uninstalled, that may cause a problem for the PAF preview function. As inconvenient as it is, PAF needs a good connected printer before it will preview a printout. Go to Start, Control Panel, Printers and Faxes. See which printer has the check mark by it. That is your default printer. It that is not a regular printer, find one that is currently connected to your computer and right click on it and choose "Set as Default Printer". Your preview should then work ok. Aloha, John -----Original Message----- From: ilyaz [mailto:ilyaz@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:29 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAF-5] PDF is not found I have PAF-5, PAF Companion v. 5.1.5 and Acrobat Reader v.7 installed on my computer running Win XP Home SP2. Each of the programs works fine separately. However, when I try to Preview chart in the Descendant Chart Options of the Companion, I'm getting an error message: <PDF Viewer. We were unable to locate a default PDF viewer...> What's going wrong? Why PAF Comp cannot find Acrobat Reader on my hard drive? I tried to open Acrobat before Companion, but it didn't help... May someone please help me to fix this problem. Ilya Zeldes Fort Myers, Florida ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/

Richard Was intrigued when you said you could install PAF on a flash drive. I just got off the phone with the President of our genealogy group and we were beating back and forth whether we could install PAF on a CD together with a database. Idea was to use PAF as a database to record cemetery, church and similar records and distribute on a CD with a standalone PAF program installed. This would mean the recipient would not have to have any genealogy program of their own. I would appreciate any comments. Doug Little Florida --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.