In a message dated 10/20/2005 7:28:02 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, frenchrl86@gmail.com writes: I recently imported a GEDCOM into my database, but now realize that many of the individuals have no relation to me or my lines whatsoever. Is there a way to delete those lines that have no linkage to me at all without having to delete each individual separately? Thanks....Rick French Another job for PAF Insight. One of the functions is "Trim Pedigrees." It makes taking whole pedigrees or parts of a pedigree really simple. (_www.ohanasoftware.com_ (http://www.ohanasoftware.com) )

I recently imported a GEDCOM into my database, but now realize that many of the individuals have no relation to me or my lines whatsoever. Is there a way to delete those lines that have no linkage to me at all without having to delete each individual separately? Thanks....Rick French

I have a situation where I have entered the wrong sex for a marr. couple..female for the man and male of women <<sigh>> I went to help & it says to "unlink individual" by going to edit/unlink. Well, the unlink is greyed out. So, obviously I need a path here to follow..can someone tell me the way to do this? Thanx... Carol Always searching for in Canada, Ireland, North Dakota,Minnesota A' H E A R N \ O ' H E A R N \ C O N L I N \ D U N N E \ F E R G U S O N \ S W E E N E Y V A L E N T I N E \S T. C R O I X Always searching for in Chicago, IL, Germany; G I E R Z \ A L M \ B O E R N E R \ S T A H L \ H E L D T \ F E I S T N E R K R U E G E R \ S C H U L T Z Always searching for in Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky R A D F O R D / E S T E S / H A Y E S / S H A R P/ E A R H A R T/ O B R I A N T T H O M P S O N / C U R D / C L O Y D

in order to change the sex the individual must not be linked in a marriage. you will have to delete all marriages for an individual and then change the sex and then you can add the marriage back. Larry simonsen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radford" <radford2@bellsouth.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Wrong sexfor hubby & wife. >I have a situation where I have entered the wrong sex for a marr. >couple..female for the man and male of women <<sigh>> I went to help & it >says to "unlink individual" by going to edit/unlink. Well, the unlink is >greyed out. So, obviously I need a path here to follow..can someone tell >me the > way to do this? Thanx... Carol > > > > > Always searching for in Canada, Ireland, North Dakota,Minnesota > A' H E A R N \ O ' H E A R N \ C O N L I N \ D U N N E \ F E R G U S O N > \ S W E E N E Y > V A L E N T I N E \S T. C R O I X > Always searching for in Chicago, IL, Germany; > G I E R Z \ A L M \ B O E R N E R \ S T A H L \ H E L D T \ F E I S T N E > R > K R U E G E R \ S C H U L T Z > Always searching for in Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky > R A D F O R D / E S T E S / H A Y E S / S H A R P/ E A R H A R T/ O B R I > A N T > T H O M P S O N / C U R D / C L O Y D > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. >

I saw a message someplace (not sure if it was on-line or in a newspaper) that the new updates tend to cause problems if you have changed the default settings on your computer. Supposedly if you go back to the defaults the problems stop. I have yet to get a successful download of the updates so I don't know how they will work (also not sure if Microsoft is still trying to send them or waiting for a fix). I have Windows 2000, not XP. Elaine Oakes >>I recently downloaded a set of 8 Security updates for Windows XP After I downloaded and installed these updates, my desktop computer went completely nuts. Nothing worked right and some things didn't work at all. It messed up PAF5 completely.

Just a note, non-LDS can also use it to search the IGI they just don't see the temple ordinances. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Rands [mailto:rrands@cfmc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:42 PM To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF Insight PAF Insight does not generate any printed reports. It is a file maintenance utility, including match/merge, RIN changes, error checking, and for LDS members, searches the ordinance index. Richard Rands At 11:59 AM 10/19/2005 -0700, LaVerne wrote: >Does PAF Insight make a better book than PAF? > >LaVerne > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service http://www.familysearch.org/

What is it that you don't like about PAF's books? What are you looking for that would make them "better"? If we have that information, maybe we can steer you toward other options. Joan Lowrey At 11:59 AM 10/19/05 -0700, LaVerne wrote: >Does PAF Insight make a better book than PAF? > >LaVerne

PAF Insight does not generate any printed reports. It is a file maintenance utility, including match/merge, RIN changes, error checking, and for LDS members, searches the ordinance index. Richard Rands At 11:59 AM 10/19/2005 -0700, LaVerne wrote: >Does PAF Insight make a better book than PAF? > >LaVerne > > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF @ FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

Does PAF Insight make a better book than PAF? LaVerne

Does PAF Insight make a better book than PAF? LaVerne

I've updated two machines, no problems whatsoever. Might turn off virus checker, firewall, etc, during install. Monty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Linn" <billinn@suscom.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] SP2 >I just did the same set of updates, (10/12). No problems. I would make sure >there is a fresh restore point, then selectively choose the updates and >install, one at a time, checking PAF after each one. There is at least one >of these that requires a system restart. I think they are all Windows >Security updates so you need all of them if you can make them work. > > Regards, Bill > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/136 - Release Date: 10/15/2005

I just did the same set of updates, (10/12). No problems. I would make sure there is a fresh restore point, then selectively choose the updates and install, one at a time, checking PAF after each one. There is at least one of these that requires a system restart. I think they are all Windows Security updates so you need all of them if you can make them work. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Cazier" <dcazier@comcast.net> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] SP2 >I recently downloaded a set of 8 Security updates for Windows XP that >included: > Cumulative Security Update KB896668 > Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830 > and Security Update #s KB900725; KB901017; 902400; 904706; 905414; and > 905749. > > After I downloaded and installed these updates, my desktop computer went > completely nuts. Nothing worked right and some things didn't work at all. > It messed up PAF5 completely. > > I had to go to the Accessories, System Tools, System Restore and restore > the system to the way it was the day before I installed these updates > before the computer worked properly again. > > I don't know what the problem was, but I have not installed them again. > So I'm cautious of these and future updates. Have any of you experienced > the same problem and can anyone explain what may have happened with this > installation? Any help would be appreciated. > Dick Cazier > Lakewood, Colorado > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vilburn" <john@ohanasoftware.com> > To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:54 PM > Subject: RE: [PAF-5] SP2 > > >> Definitely download SP2 and all the other security updates from >> Microsoft. >> They work fine with PAF. >> >> Aloha, >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Patricia J Weisshaus [mailto:patjw28@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:09 AM >> To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 >> >> >> Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with >> PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems >> anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been >> advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. >> >> Pat >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service >> http://www.familysearch.org/ >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index >> Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! >> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > Replying to Posts > When quoting a post you're replying to, omit signatures and taglines that > are appended to the post. > >

In a message dated 10/17/2005 6:16:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, gtempleman1@comcast.net writes: PAF Insight is a very nice program that I use and recommend highly (for many reasons), and does make merging a bit easier, but I would first see how many you really have. Even if you have a few dozen, you can use the built-in merge function in PAF. The end result will be the same. Gary Templeman One difference between the PAF merge function and PAF Insight is that when you merge an individual (say a married man) with his duplicate and the duplicate also has a wife, then you end up with only one of the man, but the wife (and the marriage) is duplicated and now you have to merge her name also and get rid of one of the marriages. PAF Insight accomplishes all of these merges as one action. I have found that Insight helps me to avoid messing up my database by trying to fix it. Alan

There should be no problem with merging 2 RINs, one that includes the spouse and the other that includes parents. My experience is that merging them results in the merged info including both links. Dick Cazier ----- Original Message ----- From: <wadavis@vt.edu> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Duplicate Individuals > Generally you should just merge them. You have to different records with > the same info and that is all the RINs mean. You might want to check > folks related to the RINs first and also do a backup in case something > goes wrong (use the Backup on the FILE menu). > > If you have read this list for very long, you would have seen previous > discussions about RINs. They are a convenience, but are really just used > by the program go control the number it needs for records. You have no > control over the RINs and they should not be used in an archive sense, > just for the convience the the manner you are using them to know > different records with the same info. > > As long as it looks like combining them would not be a problem due to > links to others, then I would just merge them. Bill > >> In the Indivual list I have discovered many duplicates with two different >> RIN >> numbers. >> 1. Identical information, but with two RIN numbers. >> 2.Identical information except one RIN with S -Spouse, and a different >> RIN >> with P-Parent. >> >> 1. Should I eliminate the 2nd identical information with the higher RIN >> number? >> 2. Should I eliminate anything in this instance? >> >> I don't know how this happened, unless the info was added at different >> times >> and a RIN number was given each time. Also, there was at least one >> instance >> when I went back to check on something, and whole sections were missing. >> I >> might have forgotten to save one individual, but not a whole section. >> What should >> I do to keep this from happening? >> >> Thanks for any help you can give me. (also need help in removing the >> underline :) >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >> AVG Anti-Virus Users >> Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner >> tab. >> > > > -- > Dr. William A. Davis, Director of VT Antenna Lab > The Bradley Dept of Elec & Comp Engr, Virginia Tech > Blacksburg, VA 24061-0111 [(540)231-6307, 231-3362FAX] > http://antenna.ece.vt.edu > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAF-5-USERS/ > >

I recently downloaded a set of 8 Security updates for Windows XP that included: Cumulative Security Update KB896668 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830 and Security Update #s KB900725; KB901017; 902400; 904706; 905414; and 905749. After I downloaded and installed these updates, my desktop computer went completely nuts. Nothing worked right and some things didn't work at all. It messed up PAF5 completely. I had to go to the Accessories, System Tools, System Restore and restore the system to the way it was the day before I installed these updates before the computer worked properly again. I don't know what the problem was, but I have not installed them again. So I'm cautious of these and future updates. Have any of you experienced the same problem and can anyone explain what may have happened with this installation? Any help would be appreciated. Dick Cazier Lakewood, Colorado USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vilburn" <john@ohanasoftware.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: RE: [PAF-5] SP2 > Definitely download SP2 and all the other security updates from Microsoft. > They work fine with PAF. > > Aloha, > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia J Weisshaus [mailto:patjw28@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:09 AM > To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAF-5] SP2 > > > Do I remember correctly was there a problem with SP2 interferring with > PAF-5? Has SP2 been straightened out so that these interference problems > anywhere no longer happen? I have never downloaded it, but I've been > advised that I should by a non-genealogical person. > > Pat > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service > http://www.familysearch.org/ > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - Free Access to England and Wales Civil Registration Index > Volunteer as a Transcriber Today! > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > >

PAF Insight is a very nice program that I use and recommend highly (for many reasons), and does make merging a bit easier, but I would first see how many you really have. Even if you have a few dozen, you can use the built-in merge function in PAF. The end result will be the same. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: <MEsser112@aol.com> To: <PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:09 AM Subject: [PAF-5] Re:{PAF-5} Duplicate Individuals > Gary, Bill and Allen, thanks for the help. I have not imported a GEDCOM. but > probably have entered information twice. I will look into the PAF Insight > also. Thanks again, Marilyn > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS >

Marilyn Another possible solution is to Merge the identical entries using the MERGE command in PAF. I use this method whenever I import any gedcom info and find it to be very effective. Regards Ken Guilette >From: MEsser112@aol.com >To: PAF-5-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAF-5] Re:{PAF-5} Duplicate Individuals >Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:09:48 EDT > >Gary, Bill and Allen, thanks for the help. I have not imported a GEDCOM. >but >probably have entered information twice. I will look into the PAF Insight >also. Thanks again, Marilyn > > >==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== >PAF-5-USERS Mailing List Search >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=PAF-5-USERS > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Gary, Bill and Allen, thanks for the help. I have not imported a GEDCOM. but probably have entered information twice. I will look into the PAF Insight also. Thanks again, Marilyn

Generally you should just merge them. You have to different records with the same info and that is all the RINs mean. You might want to check folks related to the RINs first and also do a backup in case something goes wrong (use the Backup on the FILE menu). If you have read this list for very long, you would have seen previous discussions about RINs. They are a convenience, but are really just used by the program go control the number it needs for records. You have no control over the RINs and they should not be used in an archive sense, just for the convience the the manner you are using them to know different records with the same info. As long as it looks like combining them would not be a problem due to links to others, then I would just merge them. Bill > In the Indivual list I have discovered many duplicates with two different RIN > numbers. > 1. Identical information, but with two RIN numbers. > 2.Identical information except one RIN with S -Spouse, and a different RIN > with P-Parent. > > 1. Should I eliminate the 2nd identical information with the higher RIN > number? > 2. Should I eliminate anything in this instance? > > I don't know how this happened, unless the info was added at different times > and a RIN number was given each time. Also, there was at least one instance > when I went back to check on something, and whole sections were missing. I > might have forgotten to save one individual, but not a whole section. What should > I do to keep this from happening? > > Thanks for any help you can give me. (also need help in removing the > underline :) > > Marilyn > > > > ==== PAF-5-USERS Mailing List ==== > AVG Anti-Virus Users > Disable the 'Certify outgoing messages' option via the E-mail Scanner tab. > -- Dr. William A. Davis, Director of VT Antenna Lab The Bradley Dept of Elec & Comp Engr, Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061-0111 [(540)231-6307, 231-3362FAX] http://antenna.ece.vt.edu

There's a checkbox on the lower right of the Report printing which has 'Print to File'. This convinces PAF to print to an rtf file. Uncehck it and see if that helps. Regina Barry * rmbarry1066@earthlink.net * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbarry4145/index.htm If you believe that it is possible to break, believe it is also possible to fix. Reb Nachman of Breslov (1772-1810)