George wrote, >Snip< > I do have my PAF information on RootsWeb but not information on the living > to protect them. I would like to find an outside source where I can > safely have a backup available. Then the following may be worth investigating. I am quoting from a post that was on one of my mailing lists. "I just discovered a great way to backup and share files. Go to www.foldershare.com. A good way to backup is to have a copy on another computer, preferably at a different location. This program allows you to do that automatically with anyone you want. This company used to charge for their program, but since Microsoft bought them out in early November, it is now free. It wouldn't surprise me to see this as a standard feature of a future version of Windows. The marvellous thing about this program is that it automatically updates the copy on the remote computer whenever you change it on your computer. Get this free program and load it on your computer and then send an invitation to your relative. They will always have an up to date copy of your paf file. You can allow them either read-only permission or editing permission. If you allow editing then their changes will automatically show on your copy. I just tried this with my wife and I opening and editing the same file at the same time. I edited the file and then she opened PAF. She saw my change. While I still had PAF open, she made a change. It gave me a warning that the file was changed. All I had to do was exit from PAF and it updated with her changes. All data transfers are encrypted, so this is secure. And you control who gets access and what type of access they have. If you have more than 1 computer in your home, you can also keep a copy of your file on that computer." I have meant to have a look at this system, but have not got around to it yet. If you use this, can you post to the list your impressions please? Regards, Mike Harvey Newcastle NSW [email protected] ne probas spurii te in pulverem contere "No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full." Lucius Cornelius Sulla 138 BC-78 BC.

When you upload to Rootsweb you can upload everything and choose not to display the living. I keep preaching this!!! :-) You can also create GedCom files and send them to yourself at a Web-based E-mail address that provides a lot of storage. Many of them require maintenance on your part, such as loading/reading your E-mail with various frequencies, but if you pay Hotmail $19.95 a year you get a lot of storage and don't have to schedule anything in case you're away from the computer for a long time. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 09 November, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to PAF issue > Hello to PAF users group, > > Sorry I haven't responded to the list and those who have offered help and > concern about my inability to write to my PAF genealogy family program. > There were several suggestions that sounded as though they should work > none did - I was never able to write to my PAF program which went on the > back burner. I store most of my PAF backups and other programs on a > second internal harddrive for protection from spyware and viruses invading > the C drive. I do have three other external hard drives which each serve > a purpose and each is used for PAF backups to enhance protection. However > my last backup was made only to the F drive - second internal drive. Bad > stuff happened as I noticed a grinding popping noice coming from the > computer. I took it in and found that the mechanical part of the F drive > had malfunctioned and it had become unreadable. The computer repair > people I use attempted to save anything salvagable to a new 2nd harddrive > I purchased from them but none of the backups! > survived. I also lost thousands of photos but have duplicates for > everything. > To shorten a long story one of my backups to another driving had a couple > hundred individuals less than the lost PAF programs so though a little > miffed things could be worse. > I really outfoxed myself and from now on am going to backup regularly to > ALL internat and external hard drives. > I do have my PAF information on RootsWeb but not information on the living > to protect them. I would like to find an outside source where I can > safely have a backup available. > Thank you all again and it's nice to be up and running once more - after > fits and starts I am now 100 percent and am typing with my fingers > crossed. > > Sincerely, > George Gildersleeve > Salem on the west side > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello to PAF users group, Sorry I haven't responded to the list and those who have offered help and concern about my inability to write to my PAF genealogy family program. There were several suggestions that sounded as though they should work none did - I was never able to write to my PAF program which went on the back burner. I store most of my PAF backups and other programs on a second internal harddrive for protection from spyware and viruses invading the C drive. I do have three other external hard drives which each serve a purpose and each is used for PAF backups to enhance protection. However my last backup was made only to the F drive - second internal drive. Bad stuff happened as I noticed a grinding popping noice coming from the computer. I took it in and found that the mechanical part of the F drive had malfunctioned and it had become unreadable. The computer repair people I use attempted to save anything salvagable to a new 2nd harddrive I purchased from them but none of the backups survived. I also lost thousands of photos but have duplicates for everything. To shorten a long story one of my backups to another driving had a couple hundred individuals less than the lost PAF programs so though a little miffed things could be worse. I really outfoxed myself and from now on am going to backup regularly to ALL internat and external hard drives. I do have my PAF information on RootsWeb but not information on the living to protect them. I would like to find an outside source where I can safely have a backup available. Thank you all again and it's nice to be up and running once more - after fits and starts I am now 100 percent and am typing with my fingers crossed. Sincerely, George Gildersleeve Salem on the west side

JM, The easy way is to create a gedcom file selecting only the families and data options you want. It is as simple as exporting Partial, and then making your selections. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMGreen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Portion of PAF Fie > If I want to share a portion of a PAF File with someone but do not > want to include say, data and notes for living people, how is this done? > > J M Green > Email: MailTo:[email protected] > WWW: HTTP://users.sisna.com/JMGreen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1117 - Release Date: 11/7/2007 10:52 PM > >

J M: You share information via a GEDCOM file. In the Export screen, you adjust your options to exclude information you don't want to share. This includes such things as notes and living information. Gaylon JMGreen wrote: > If I want to share a portion of a PAF File with someone but do not > want to include say, data and notes for living people, how is this done? > > J M Green > Email: MailTo:[email protected] > WWW: HTTP://users.sisna.com/JMGreen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

If I want to share a portion of a PAF File with someone but do not want to include say, data and notes for living people, how is this done? J M Green Email: MailTo:[email protected] WWW: HTTP://users.sisna.com/JMGreen

WA Davis I would like to discuss this subject further with you since I am unable to find the registry that you describe for PAF 5. You say: "The generic tags are stored in the registry at "My Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LDS Church\FamilySearch\Personal Ancestral File 5\Note Tags". " Am I to understand the the various Tag designations, ie. (MARRIAGE: or TO-DO:), or any other tag that I decide to add in the "Select Notes" window, I use on my PAF5 program are stored in that location? 1) Does that include that actual verbiage that I insert as a Note, or just the designation? 2) In your suggestion you don't identify if there is a necessity to select a Drive. Am I to assume that after I select My Computer, that I then select Drive C? If that is correct, I can't find "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" Also I can't find the rest of the words in the string. I do know that in my case the various files for my PAF5 program are stored in Drive C\Program Files\FamilySearch\Paf5. None of the program files shown at this location are designated "Note Tags". In addition I have elected to separate my data from the program files so have created a separate file for the PAF5-data in Drive D, so that I won't lose the data, in case of a computer crash. I would be interested in your response, either on the list or separately. Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Where are NOTE TAGS stored? > Here is the information I think you want. Be sure to read the second > paragraph as messing > with the registry is not recommended and is not needed for your request. > For those added to > an individual, I think they are stored in the PAF file. However the > generic tags are stored in > the registry at "My Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LDS > Church\FamilySearch\Personal Ancestral File 5\Note Tags". Just as a trial > I added the tag > "JOB:" to the list and it worked fine. I do not know if there is a limit > to the number > > However, you can do the same addition by going to the Selector Screen and > just adding the > tags there (the Add button). That should convert any tags you have with > that name to a > regular tag automatically. If you do not add the tag, but type it in under > the ALL, it will show > up as a tag but be in a light gray color on the tag selector and not show > up on other folks tag > selector lists. > > The reason your custom tags are gone is that they were stored in the > registry that you lost. If > you have an individual with most of those tags, simply go in and Add those > tags as regular > tags. Be sure to backup first in case anything goes haywire. > >> I had maybe 20 to 30 note tags that I frequently used. When my >> computer died and I had to rebuild the system, I copied over my PAF >> files to the new harddrive. The program runs fine and will let me >> add notes to an individual, but only the default 6 tags are showing >> in the "Select Notes" window. >> >> Where were my custom note tags stored and why isn't PAF using them? >> Any ideas? Can I get them back? >> >> Sandy >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Dr. William A. Davis > VA Tech Antenna Group (Director) & Wireless @ VT > Bradley Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering > 302 Whittemore Hall (0111), Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540)231-6307 (231-3362FAX); http://antenna.ece.vt.edu >

The size of your file is 7,727,456 bytes.. or 7.7 megabytes. The Free disk space is the amount of disk space .. on probably your hard disk.. which is not being used, which is 1,000,474 megabytes or slightly more than one gigabyte. I could go into what a byte is but won't you could put your data on a 3 and a half inch floppy disk which has a capacity of 1.44 megabytes. You may think these are just numbers, but when I was a youngster.. my first floppy drive had a capacity of 100,000 bytes! Just know what the file size is.. and what the FREE SPACE is.. the empty space remaining on your disc. You can think of a byte like the storage enough for a single character. Hope this old (computer) dinasaur was able to help! Alan Pamplona, Spain On Nov 6, 2007 6:04 PM, Ruth Filbert <[email protected]> wrote: > Please help me. > I want to send a GEDCOM of one branch of my ancestry to another person. > First, I make a GEDCOM of that branch. > Now, how do I find out what size flash/thumb drive I need to use to > transfer the information? > Another question: > Under File Properties, there is Location: C:/Docume..........; Size: > 7827456; and Modified: date shown. > Is the size given in KB, MB or what? Is this the PAF software and the data > I have put into PAF? > At the bottom of the box is Free disk space: 1.00484 MB. What does this > mean? > Thanks Ruth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is the information I think you want. Be sure to read the second paragraph as messing with the registry is not recommended and is not needed for your request. For those added to an individual, I think they are stored in the PAF file. However the generic tags are stored in the registry at "My Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LDS Church\FamilySearch\Personal Ancestral File 5\Note Tags". Just as a trial I added the tag "JOB:" to the list and it worked fine. I do not know if there is a limit to the number However, you can do the same addition by going to the Selector Screen and just adding the tags there (the Add button). That should convert any tags you have with that name to a regular tag automatically. If you do not add the tag, but type it in under the ALL, it will show up as a tag but be in a light gray color on the tag selector and not show up on other folks tag selector lists. The reason your custom tags are gone is that they were stored in the registry that you lost. If you have an individual with most of those tags, simply go in and Add those tags as regular tags. Be sure to backup first in case anything goes haywire. > I had maybe 20 to 30 note tags that I frequently used. When my > computer died and I had to rebuild the system, I copied over my PAF > files to the new harddrive. The program runs fine and will let me > add notes to an individual, but only the default 6 tags are showing > in the "Select Notes" window. > > Where were my custom note tags stored and why isn't PAF using them? > Any ideas? Can I get them back? > > Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dr. William A. Davis VA Tech Antenna Group (Director) & Wireless @ VT Bradley Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering 302 Whittemore Hall (0111), Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-6307 (231-3362FAX); http://antenna.ece.vt.edu

Alan thanks for your help. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Whitcomb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] File size

I had maybe 20 to 30 note tags that I frequently used. When my computer died and I had to rebuild the system, I copied over my PAF files to the new harddrive. The program runs fine and will let me add notes to an individual, but only the default 6 tags are showing in the "Select Notes" window. Where were my custom note tags stored and why isn't PAF using them? Any ideas? Can I get them back? Sandy

Sandy: When we gave the Ancestral Quest code to the Church, which was used to create the PAF program, the note tags were stored in the ".ini" file. They are not stored in your database. When using notes, if the Notes Selector window comes up, you can "Add" tags to the list on that window. Once you have added these tags back into that list, they will show up the way you are used to. Gaylon Findlay Incline Software Sandy Rozhon wrote: > I had maybe 20 to 30 note tags that I frequently used. When my > computer died and I had to rebuild the system, I copied over my PAF > files to the new harddrive. The program runs fine and will let me > add notes to an individual, but only the default 6 tags are showing > in the "Select Notes" window. > > Where were my custom note tags stored and why isn't PAF using them? > Any ideas? Can I get them back? > > Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Please help me. I want to send a GEDCOM of one branch of my ancestry to another person. First, I make a GEDCOM of that branch. Now, how do I find out what size flash/thumb drive I need to use to transfer the information? Another question: Under File Properties, there is Location: C:/Docume..........; Size: 7827456; and Modified: date shown. Is the size given in KB, MB or what? Is this the PAF software and the data I have put into PAF? At the bottom of the box is Free disk space: 1.00484 MB. What does this mean? Thanks Ruth

Another option is to use a program such a GENViewer (www.mudcreeksoftware.com) which reads GEDCOMs, PAF 3-5 files, TMG 4, 5, 6 (The Master Genealogist) files, Family Tree Maker files, Legacy 3-6 files and RootsMagic files. It will show what they term "islands", which are the people or family groups not connected to the main line. Those clusters can be individualy exported to GEDCOM. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Custom report printing > The simplest way is to probably print a custom list. Enter the select > screen and select all. > Then deselect all related. > > You will then have to define the fields that you want printed in the list. > In my 6800 or so, that > leaves me with 146 individuals. Bill > >> 1. How do I print a list of individuals or families that are NOT >> linked to the "home person" or pedigres of the current file? IE, >> those families which are in my PAF file that I've researched as >> close possibilities but not yet proven as >> ancestors/descendentants. >> >> 2. How do I print more than the 200 character limit of the NOTES >> file for use in a custom report without having to export it as a >> comma-delimited file to a word processing program? >> > > To the best of my knowledge you can not exceed the character limit for > notes. You might be > able to do it with a different print selection and select the individuals > in the same way. Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can check the preferences under TOOLS>Preferences>Folders to see the default location. I think it is the program directory (actually a pretty poor choice). I always create the following folders: Data, Bak, Reports, and Web. I also create a pictures folder. Then I use those for every thing and leave the program folder alone. I used to remember folks that put everything in the root directory. There file organization was basically none. It would be like putting all of your research in a file drawer with no folders, simply everything stacked in place. Use the folders to your advantage and don't waste time searching around places for where you left things (no maybe I will practice what I preach a bit better!). After checking the default you should be able to find most *.paf files. The search will also do the job. Bill > Gary is right. In PAF5 there is no folder called Data in either the > FamilySearch folder or the PAF5 folder. PAF5 data files will probably > be found in MyDocuments, but can be found by using Start menu | Search | > .paf >

The simplest way is to probably print a custom list. Enter the select screen and select all. Then deselect all related. You will then have to define the fields that you want printed in the list. In my 6800 or so, that leaves me with 146 individuals. Bill > 1. How do I print a list of individuals or families that are NOT > linked to the "home person" or pedigres of the current file? IE, > those families which are in my PAF file that I've researched as > close possibilities but not yet proven as > ancestors/descendentants. > > 2. How do I print more than the 200 character limit of the NOTES > file for use in a custom report without having to export it as a > comma-delimited file to a word processing program? > To the best of my knowledge you can not exceed the character limit for notes. You might be able to do it with a different print selection and select the individuals in the same way. Bill

George, If you open your Family Search folder, then PAF then click on Data locate and highlight the file name you are having problems with ie 'JONES' then right click on that file, go down to Properties then uncheck the Read Only box, you will find that will work. Regards Barbara [email protected] wrote: > George, > > I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF problem. > > If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal information) > > Gary Templeman > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> > > >> Gary, >> I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went into >> the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in PAF5, >> clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read only, >> clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the >> read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After >> 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family >> search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in it - >> did this several times with the same result. >> Feeling pretty frustrated. >> Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? >> George >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Templeman" >> To: >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >> >> >> >>> It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did NOT >>> have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error message. >>> I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select >>> properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to the >>> file and then give full control. >>> >>> What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the FHC >>> computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have >>> sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin >>> login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was >>> saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator >>> apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not work >>> on her computer. >>> >>> When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run when >>> I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after >>> going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that it >>> would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those >>> parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP Home. >>> I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only flag >>> was not set, and that was a new one for me. >>> >>> George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, >>> email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. >>> >>> Gary Templeman >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Buchanan" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>> >>> >>> >>>> George, >>>> >>>> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being >>>> saved >>>> on a CD). >>>> >>>> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk >>>> (perhaps >>>> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). >>>> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the pop-up >>>> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a >>>> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the checkmark, >>>> and >>>> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. >>>> >>>> Bill Buchanan >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "George Gildersleeve" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM >>>> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow me >>>>> >>>> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've tried >>>> a >>>> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone into >>>> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems to >>>> work for me. >>>> >>>>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but it >>>>> >>>> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's again >>>> for >>>> all who have tried to assist me. >>>> >>>>> Very frustrated, >>>>> George Gildersleeve >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: >>>>> >>>> 10/28/2007 1:58 PM >>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

George, Gary is right. In PAF5 there is no folder called Data in either the FamilySearch folder or the PAF5 folder. PAF5 data files will probably be found in MyDocuments, but can be found by using Start menu | Search | .paf Once I have found the file using Search, I would select it (but NOT open it .i.e click once, not twice), then from the Windows File menu, select "Open containing folder". Then right-click on the file's icon to bring up the pop-up menu where you can select Properties. From the Properties General tab, remove any checkmark beside Read-Only, and click OK. If it isn't a Windows access-level problem, the problem should be solved. A different but easy solution is to open the file in PAF and export All to a gedcom file. Create a new (empty) PAF file with a unique name (i.e. any name not already used by a PAF file on your computer), and import the gedcom. This might take you 5 minutes. Let us know how you solved the problem. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > As far as I know, a Data folder does not automatically get created in a > standard installation of PAF 5. I believe there may be one in PAF3 but I am > not at a computer where I can check. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > > > > George, > > > > If you open your Family Search folder, then PAF then click on Data > > locate and highlight the file name you are having problems with ie > > 'JONES' then right click on that file, go down to Properties then > > uncheck the Read Only box, you will find that will work. > > > > Regards > > Barbara > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > >> George, > >> > >> I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the > >> description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on > >> the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not > >> be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be > >> looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The > >> default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. > >> Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is > >> almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF > >> problem. > >> > >> If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can > >> get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data > >> file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email > >> it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal > >> information) > >> > >> Gary Templeman > >> > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > >> From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >>> Gary, > >>> I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went > >>> into > >>> the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in > >>> PAF5, > >>> clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read > >>> only, > >>> clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the > >>> read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After > >>> 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family > >>> search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in > >>> it - > >>> did this several times with the same result. > >>> Feeling pretty frustrated. > >>> Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? > >>> George > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Gary Templeman" > >>> To: > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did > >>>> NOT > >>>> have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error > >>>> message. > >>>> I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select > >>>> properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to > >>>> the > >>>> file and then give full control. > >>>> > >>>> What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the > >>>> FHC > >>>> computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have > >>>> sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin > >>>> login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was > >>>> saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator > >>>> apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not > >>>> work > >>>> on her computer. > >>>> > >>>> When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run > >>>> when > >>>> I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after > >>>> going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that > >>>> it > >>>> would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those > >>>> parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP > >>>> Home. > >>>> I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only > >>>> flag > >>>> was not set, and that was a new one for me. > >>>> > >>>> George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, > >>>> email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. > >>>> > >>>> Gary Templeman > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Bill Buchanan" > >>>> To: > >>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> George, > >>>>> > >>>>> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being > >>>>> saved > >>>>> on a CD). > >>>>> > >>>>> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk > >>>>> (perhaps > >>>>> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). > >>>>> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the > >>>>> pop-up > >>>>> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a > >>>>> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the > >>>>> checkmark, > >>>>> and > >>>>> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bill Buchanan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "George Gildersleeve" > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM > >>>>> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow > >>>>>> me > >>>>>> > >>>>> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've > >>>>> tried > >>>>> a > >>>>> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone > >>>>> into > >>>>> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems > >>>>> to > >>>>> work for me. > >>>>> > >>>>>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but > >>>>>> it > >>>>>> > >>>>> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's > >>>>> again > >>>>> for > >>>>> all who have tried to assist me. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Very frustrated, > >>>>>> George Gildersleeve > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------- >

George, I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF problem. If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal information) Gary Templeman -------------- Original message -------------- From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> > Gary, > I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went into > the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in PAF5, > clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read only, > clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the > read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After > 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family > search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in it - > did this several times with the same result. > Feeling pretty frustrated. > Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? > George > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Templeman" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > > > > It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did NOT > > have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error message. > > I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select > > properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to the > > file and then give full control. > > > > What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the FHC > > computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have > > sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin > > login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was > > saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator > > apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not work > > on her computer. > > > > When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run when > > I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after > > going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that it > > would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those > > parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP Home. > > I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only flag > > was not set, and that was a new one for me. > > > > George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, > > email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. > > > > Gary Templeman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Buchanan" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > > > > > >> George, > >> > >> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being > >> saved > >> on a CD). > >> > >> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk > >> (perhaps > >> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). > >> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the pop-up > >> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a > >> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the checkmark, > >> and > >> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. > >> > >> Bill Buchanan > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "George Gildersleeve" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM > >> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > >> > >> > >>> Hello all, > >>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow me > >> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've tried > >> a > >> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone into > >> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems to > >> work for me. > >>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but it > >> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's again > >> for > >> all who have tried to assist me. > >>> Very frustrated, > >>> George Gildersleeve > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: > >> 10/28/2007 1:58 PM > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

As far as I know, a Data folder does not automatically get created in a standard installation of PAF 5. I believe there may be one in PAF3 but I am not at a computer where I can check. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program > George, > > If you open your Family Search folder, then PAF then click on Data > locate and highlight the file name you are having problems with ie > 'JONES' then right click on that file, go down to Properties then > uncheck the Read Only box, you will find that will work. > > Regards > Barbara > > > [email protected] wrote: >> George, >> >> I think you are confusing what file you need to fix. It sounds from the >> description below that you are trying to change the read-only setting on >> the PAF program folder. It is supposed to be read-only, as you should not >> be able to directly modify the program files themselves. You need to be >> looking at your data file (something like "gildersleeve.paf"). The >> default location for that is probably in your My Documents folder. >> Reinstalling PAF is not going to solve the problem because the issue is >> almost certainly with your data file, and is a Windows problem not a PAF >> problem. >> >> If you cannot locate your data file you may need to find somebody who can >> get to your computer and do a hands-on fix. If you can locate the data >> file but are unable to change it, my offer still stands for you to email >> it to me and I will fix it. (I am not interested in any of your personal >> information) >> >> Gary Templeman >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "George Gildersleeve" <[email protected]> >> >> >>> Gary, >>> I followed the procedure as outlined by opening windows explorer. Went >>> into >>> the C drive to program files>Family Search> clicked on properties in >>> PAF5, >>> clicked on the general tab, unclicked on the square stating for read >>> only, >>> clicked apply then moved on. However each time I opened a PAF I got the >>> read only message so I returned and repeated the above procedure. After >>> 'successfully' following the instructions I would go out of the family >>> search then return to it and find the read only square with a check in >>> it - >>> did this several times with the same result. >>> Feeling pretty frustrated. >>> Any suggestions as to what the cause is and a solution to this? >>> George >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gary Templeman" >>> To: >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>> >>> >>> >>>> It could be set as read-only, but the file I had to fix on Friday did >>>> NOT >>>> have a check in that box and we were getting the exact same error >>>> message. >>>> I had to be logged on as administrator, then right click and select >>>> properties, then security and add "everyone" as a user with access to >>>> the >>>> file and then give full control. >>>> >>>> What apparently happened is that the portable HD would not work on the >>>> FHC >>>> computer until it got installed, and the patron user login did not have >>>> sufficient privileges to install the hardware. After going to the admin >>>> login the HD worked (that is only a one-time process), but the file was >>>> saved to the drive while still on as Administrator. Administrator >>>> apparently took ownership. When she took the drive home it would not >>>> work >>>> on her computer. >>>> >>>> When she returned, testing of the file at the FHC showed it would run >>>> when >>>> I was logged on as Administrator, but not as Patron. It was only after >>>> going back to the Admin login and changing the security settings that >>>> it >>>> would run under any login. The security tab needed to access those >>>> parameters is available in XP Pro (and Windows 2000 Pro) but not XP >>>> Home. >>>> I must admit it was puzzling to have a read-error when the read-only >>>> flag >>>> was not set, and that was a new one for me. >>>> >>>> George, if the read-only attribute is not set but it still errors out, >>>> email me the file and I will try to fix it and send it back. >>>> >>>> Gary Templeman >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bill Buchanan" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> George, >>>>> >>>>> The file attribute has probably been set to Read-Only (maybe by being >>>>> saved >>>>> on a CD). >>>>> >>>>> To remove the Read-Only attribute, save the file to the hard disk >>>>> (perhaps >>>>> to the Desktop or MyDocuments). >>>>> Click the right-hand mouse button on the file's icon, and from the >>>>> pop-up >>>>> menu select Properties. On the General tab, check whether there is a >>>>> checkmark beside Read-Only. If so, click on it to remove the >>>>> checkmark, >>>>> and >>>>> click OK. The file should now be readable and writeable. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Buchanan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "George Gildersleeve" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:02 PM >>>>> Subject: [PAF-5] Unable to write to my PAF program >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> I appreciate all the suggestions and help which I thought would allow >>>>>> me >>>>>> >>>>> to write to my PAF program but I am still not able to do so. I've >>>>> tried >>>>> a >>>>> number of things including downloading to repair PAF and have gone >>>>> into >>>>> various parts of PAF including 'file', 'tools' etc. but nothing seems >>>>> to >>>>> work for me. >>>>> >>>>>> A for instance I've gone into tools>preferences>and opened files but >>>>>> it >>>>>> >>>>> isn't available. Any suggestions at all will be tried and thank's >>>>> again >>>>> for >>>>> all who have tried to assist me. >>>>> >>>>>> Very frustrated, >>>>>> George Gildersleeve >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: >>>>>> >>>>> 10/28/2007 1:58 PM >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message