>I believe I was the person who noted that our business depends on >rugged laptops that take a serious beating. We have found that >Toshiba make the most reliable laptop with IBM a close second. We >have had very bad experiences with Sony and Dell. > >Richard Rands At 12:51 PM 11/17/2007 -0600, you wrote: >Listers, > >I have searched the PAF archives and evidently didn't come up with a >search term that worked. Someone wrote within the last couple of >months and related that laptops were used in his business and they >had to be rugged (probably not the correct word). He mentioned a >brand that fit the bill, but the one I remembered doesn't come up in >the archives, so I guess I remembered wrong. > >Can anyone remember this posting and help me find it? > >Thanks > >Lila > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This will be for a college student who will take it to classes and won't be running PAF, at least now. Toshiba is the brand I remember but I can't find the message in the PAF archives. One person I know was required to place her laptop in her checked luggage for an international flight, and I'd like to have a laptop that could withstand the kind of treatment that checked baggage endures. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 17 November, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] A rugged laptop > Lila > I don't what you meam by "rugged". If you intend to throw it around on > the > floor or against a Brick Wall, I don't think you will find one. > > This the 3rd laptop I've had that is a Toshiba and I find it very rugged > for > what I do. I carry it around with me to the library and when I was > working > I carried it around on my job which took me to many places across Canada > and > the US. I can't remember ever having a problem. > >>From past experience I know that PAF has worked on all of them. Now I >>have > a new Toshiba that uses Vista Windows, and PAF works fine on that; I > can't > say the same thing for some other Genealogy problems, since Vista won't > let > you find your Help file for some of the other programs. Also Vista won't > faciliate creating a large wall chart, that can be taken to and printed by > a > Commercial Graphics Printer. > > Best of luck. > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:51 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] A rugged laptop > > >> Listers, >> >> I have searched the PAF archives and evidently didn't come up with a >> search term that worked. Someone wrote within the last couple of months >> and related that laptops were used in his business and they had to be >> rugged (probably not the correct word). He mentioned a brand that fit the >> bill, but the one I remembered doesn't come up in the archives, so I >> guess >> I remembered wrong. >> >> Can anyone remember this posting and help me find it? >> >> Thanks >> >> Lila >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Listers, I have searched the PAF archives and evidently didn't come up with a search term that worked. Someone wrote within the last couple of months and related that laptops were used in his business and they had to be rugged (probably not the correct word). He mentioned a brand that fit the bill, but the one I remembered doesn't come up in the archives, so I guess I remembered wrong. Can anyone remember this posting and help me find it? Thanks Lila

Since my stroke I've found my membership in a couple of geneology Email groups a fun way to pass time. From 90 words a minute I now do a hunt and peck with my right hand. Like your choice in tradeins Alan. (motorcycle for a wife) Betty in Grants Pass Oregon

Panasonic makes a laptop (fairly expensive) that most, if not all HAZMAT units that I know of use -- can't rememeber the model number, but is seems to be impervious to everything but volcanos. I will query a HAZMAT friend and see if I can get the model foryou. Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAF-5] A rugged laptop Listers, I have searched the PAF archives and evidently didn't come up with a search term that worked. Someone wrote within the last couple of months and related that laptops were used in his business and they had to be rugged (probably not the correct word). He mentioned a brand that fit the bill, but the one I remembered doesn't come up in the archives, so I guess I remembered wrong. Can anyone remember this posting and help me find it? Thanks Lila ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It depends a lot on how the person you send the information will use it. It isn't that simple. If the information is to be added to the receiver's database you should export a GEDCOM of the 2 families and attach that to an email. If they just want to see the Family Groups, go to Print Reports. Be sure you select "Print to File". With the family group open select Descendants and 2 generations. Preview to be sure it is as you want it to be and then click Print. It will print to an "rtf" file and can be viewed in Wprd or the Word viewer. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "PAF-5-USERS" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: [PAF-5] sending select data as attachment on email > HI All, Just a dumb question from a simple user. How can I select a > family group (or two in this case) and send it as an attachment on an > email. Not a very learned computer user. Ask one of my grandsons how to > do it, "just paste to note pad then import to the email" says he, in his > usual high school rush to work. Ha Ha, sounds so simple. Where is cut > and paste in PAF? So how do I do it? Thanks for any help. PGee

PGee: Using PAF, you could print the family group sheets to an RTF file, then attach the RTF file to an e-mail message. (The RTF file can be opened by the recipient in Word, and should look quite a bit like what you would print out.) Using an add-on program like PAFWiz or Ancestral Quest, you could print the same family group sheets to a PDF file, then attach the PDF file. (The PDF file can be opened by the Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on most computers, and should look exactly like what you would print out.) Gaylon Findlay [email protected] wrote: > HI All, Just a dumb question from a simple user. How can I select a family group (or two in this case) and send it as an attachment on an email. Not a very learned computer user. Ask one of my grandsons how to do it, "just paste to note pad then import to the email" says he, in his usual high school rush to work. Ha Ha, sounds so simple. Where is cut and paste in PAF? So how do I do it? Thanks for any help. PGee > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

HI All, Just a dumb question from a simple user. How can I select a family group (or two in this case) and send it as an attachment on an email. Not a very learned computer user. Ask one of my grandsons how to do it, "just paste to note pad then import to the email" says he, in his usual high school rush to work. Ha Ha, sounds so simple. Where is cut and paste in PAF? So how do I do it? Thanks for any help. PGee

Hi, everyone: Thank you for coming to my rescue and I thank Ella and Don particularly. I follow your advice and VOILA my background full of trees is there. Thanks again. Lucie Servole Myers Tampa, Florida 1. Re: Background in Web Page (singmore) 2. Re: Background in Web Page (Norster Family) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:59:44 -0500 From: "singmore" Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Background in Web Page To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, you can print the background from a website. First, you have to check the box 'Print background' in the Printing options menu. Open the Internet Explorer then Tools/Internet Options/Advanced menu. Scroll down to option 'Printing' and tick off the button. If you are using Firefox it's under File/Page Setup. For Mac, I do not know but it must be somewhere there. Ella > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:paf-5-users- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Lorin Lund > Sent: November-12-07 10:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Background in Web Page > > [email protected] wrote: > > Hi everyone: > > > > I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page > does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:44:21 +0000 From: Norster Family Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Background in Web Page To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Usually within the Page Setup there is an option to Print Background. It probably needs ticking. Don Farnham Researching Norster and Noster, Worldwide www.norster.org.uk GOONS 3004 --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.

Lorin Lund wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > >>Hi everyone: >> >> I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. >> >> Steps I use: Click on Web Page and select either Ancestors or Descendants then I select the Background (Tree3 or tree2), click OPEN and after giving a name to the Web Page, I click Finish. When I preview the document before printing, the background is there, but does not appear when I print! WHY? What am I doing wrong? >> >> Thank your for your help. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lucie >> > I may be wrong about this but it is my impression that Web Browsers > generally don't print the background of any web page. And, most of the time, the background is hard enough to read through on-screen -- printed off it may well be impossible to read through. But then again, I generally print on a B&W printer (g). Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Usually within the Page Setup there is an option to Print Background. It probably needs ticking. Don Farnham Researching Norster and Noster, Worldwide www.norster.org.uk GOONS 3004 Lorin Lund wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi everyone: >> >> I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. >> >> Steps I use: Click on Web Page and select either Ancestors or Descendants then I select the Background (Tree3 or tree2), click OPEN and after giving a name to the Web Page, I click Finish. When I preview the document before printing, the background is there, but does not appear when I print! WHY? What am I doing wrong? >> >> Thank your for your help. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lucie >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > I may be wrong about this but it is my impression that Web Browsers > generally don't print the background of any web page. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Yes, you can print the background from a website. First, you have to check the box 'Print background' in the Printing options menu. Open the Internet Explorer then Tools/Internet Options/Advanced menu. Scroll down to option 'Printing' and tick off the button. If you are using Firefox it's under File/Page Setup. For Mac, I do not know but it must be somewhere there. Ella > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:paf-5-users- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Lorin Lund > Sent: November-12-07 10:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Background in Web Page > > [email protected] wrote: > > Hi everyone: > > > > I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page > does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. > >

[email protected] wrote: > Hi everyone: > > I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. > > Steps I use: Click on Web Page and select either Ancestors or Descendants then I select the Background (Tree3 or tree2), click OPEN and after giving a name to the Web Page, I click Finish. When I preview the document before printing, the background is there, but does not appear when I print! WHY? What am I doing wrong? > > Thank your for your help. > > Sincerely, > > Lucie > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I may be wrong about this but it is my impression that Web Browsers generally don't print the background of any web page.

Hi everyone: I am very puzzled as to why the background I select for my Web Page does not appear when I print my document. I use PAF-5. Steps I use: Click on Web Page and select either Ancestors or Descendants then I select the Background (Tree3 or tree2), click OPEN and after giving a name to the Web Page, I click Finish. When I preview the document before printing, the background is there, but does not appear when I print! WHY? What am I doing wrong? Thank your for your help. Sincerely, Lucie --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Hi there, As an adoptive child myself, I can understand your frustration at not being able to sort this out. There is a VERY simple explanation of how to fix this. Highlight the child, then right mouse click, scroll down to "Edit parent links" then click in the field where it says "Relationship to parents" and change this - there are six (6) options to choose from. If you already have the respective biological and adoptive parents listed then click on the one you want as the primary , adoptive or biological, click on "Make Primary" and that will be that FIXED. Regards Barbara Will Merritt wrote: > Right now I'm stumped. PAF-5 insists that two particular children are > adoptive. They have been unlinked from their parents and relinked, no > help. I deleted the marriage and reconstructed it, no help. The MRIN > number was the same before and after the deletion and reconstruction. > Does that matter? Check and repair on the file is clean. I haven't tried > deleting the four individuals and reentering them yet since there are a > lot of notes to contend with. And the problem doesn't occur with other > families. Any suggestions? > > Will > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

The problem is solved. The edit menu did the trick. I discovered among other things that the individuals were also linked to empty marriages. Unlinking and deleting the empty marriages and clicking "Biological" was all that was needed Cutting and pasting notes is one thing, cutting and pasting all the events is another. Embarrassing, but nice to know that Edit can do more than order children 8^)) Thanks for the help. Will > From: Will Merritt <[email protected]> > Subject: [PAF-5] Adoptive vs Biological Children > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Right now I'm stumped. PAF-5 insists that two particular children are > adoptive. They have been unlinked from their parents and relinked, no > help. I deleted the marriage and reconstructed it, no help. The MRIN > number was the same before and after the deletion and reconstruction. > Does that matter? Check and repair on the file is clean. I haven't tried > deleting the four individuals and reentering them yet since there are a > lot of notes to contend with. And the problem doesn't occur with other > families. Any suggestions? > > Will >

You can copy and paste all the notes to a word processing doc, then copy them back if necessary. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charleen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 10 November, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Adoptive vs Biological Children >I would re-enter them as new individuals, and copy and paste the notes and > information from your old information. Then hook them up to the family, > see > if that works. Then delete the old ones, once you know the new ones are > working. That may be a quick fix, then you won't lose your old data. > Cheers, > Charleen > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Will Merritt > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PAF-5] Adoptive vs Biological Children > > Right now I'm stumped. PAF-5 insists that two particular children are > adoptive. They have been unlinked from their parents and relinked, no > help. I deleted the marriage and reconstructed it, no help. The MRIN > number was the same before and after the deletion and reconstruction. > Does that matter? Check and repair on the file is clean. I haven't tried > deleting the four individuals and reentering them yet since there are a > lot of notes to contend with. And the problem doesn't occur with other > families. Any suggestions? > > Will > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you tried the following: 1. Highlight the child 2. Click on Edit on the menu bar. 3. Click on the word "Parents" 4. Examine the screen and find the place where you can click on a down arrow to choose the relationship for the child to the parents. See what is showing. If it is "Adopted", then click on the down arrow. 5. Click on Biological. 6. Click on Save. I hope this helps ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Right now I'm stumped. PAF-5 insists that two particular children are adoptive. They have been unlinked from their parents and relinked, no help. I deleted the marriage and reconstructed it, no help. The MRIN number was the same before and after the deletion and reconstruction. Does that matter? Check and repair on the file is clean. I haven't tried deleting the four individuals and reentering them yet since there are a lot of notes to contend with. And the problem doesn't occur with other families. Any suggestions? Will

I would re-enter them as new individuals, and copy and paste the notes and information from your old information. Then hook them up to the family, see if that works. Then delete the old ones, once you know the new ones are working. That may be a quick fix, then you won't lose your old data. Cheers, Charleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Will Merritt Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAF-5] Adoptive vs Biological Children Right now I'm stumped. PAF-5 insists that two particular children are adoptive. They have been unlinked from their parents and relinked, no help. I deleted the marriage and reconstructed it, no help. The MRIN number was the same before and after the deletion and reconstruction. Does that matter? Check and repair on the file is clean. I haven't tried deleting the four individuals and reentering them yet since there are a lot of notes to contend with. And the problem doesn't occur with other families. Any suggestions? Will ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message