Gaylon: 1. Does PAFWiz 2.0 integrate into PAF 5.2 or do you open the program separately to use it's features? 2. Does PAFWiz 2.0 work with Windows 98 & Windows 98SE as well as XP and Vista? We have 2 machines on a network one using XP and the other 98SE with the database stored on the XP machine. We enter/edit data etc from both machines. 3. Can you add/edit database from within PAFWiz 2.0? Regards, Larry ***** : Paul: : : You can use either Ancestral Quest or PAFWiz to compare two PAF : databases. You would go to the Tools menu, then to the "Compare/Merge : Databases" option. : : Gaylon Findlay : Incline Software : : : [email protected] wrote: : : Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I : : have a : : backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current : : version of a : : database to find individuals in the current version who were not in : : the older : : version. : : : : Paul </HTML> : : : : ------------------------------- : : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to : : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' : : without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message : : : : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without : the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Cannot print to file > PAF (or Windows) usually remembers the last place you saved something, > sometimes even if it was when using a different program. After selecting > the > FGS and clicking the print to file box, when you click the Print button a > dialog window comes up where you select the file name. At the top of that > window is a place where it will say "Save in:", and yours is set on the > "A" > drive. When you click "Save", it is just attempting to save the file where > it was told. You need to click the drop-down arrow in the "Save in:" field > and navigate to where you really want the file to be saved. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Bailey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:01 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] Cannot print to file > > >>I want to print to file a family group sheet to send via e mail. >> Everytime I select print to file.....anotice appears saying >> "Insert a disc in drive A" >> What is wrong...I have printed to file many times before.... >> Why can't I do it now? >> Dorothy >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PAF (or Windows) usually remembers the last place you saved something, sometimes even if it was when using a different program. After selecting the FGS and clicking the print to file box, when you click the Print button a dialog window comes up where you select the file name. At the top of that window is a place where it will say "Save in:", and yours is set on the "A" drive. When you click "Save", it is just attempting to save the file where it was told. You need to click the drop-down arrow in the "Save in:" field and navigate to where you really want the file to be saved. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Bailey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Cannot print to file >I want to print to file a family group sheet to send via e mail. > Everytime I select print to file.....anotice appears saying > "Insert a disc in drive A" > What is wrong...I have printed to file many times before.... > Why can't I do it now? > Dorothy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much. I knew that it must be a common enough function to be available somewhere. Paul In a message dated 1/2/2008 2:34:40 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Paul: > > You can use either Ancestral Quest or PAFWiz to compare two PAF > databases. You would go to the Tools menu, then to the "Compare/Merge > Databases" option. > > Gaylon Findlay > Incline Software > > > [email protected] wrote: > > Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I have a > > backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current version > of a > > database to find individuals in the current version who were not in the > older > > version. > > > > Paul > </HTML>

I want to print to file a family group sheet to send via e mail. Everytime I select print to file.....anotice appears saying "Insert a disc in drive A" What is wrong...I have printed to file many times before.... Why can't I do it now? Dorothy

Larry: 1) PAFWiz 2 will show up on the PAF 5.2 "Tools" menu. But when you run it, it will require you to close the database in PAF so that PAF won't interfere with it while it is running. 2) Currently, PAFWiz 2 runs on Windows 2000, XP and Vista. It won't run on the 95/98/ME series of Windows. 3) Yes. PAFWiz will let you edit your PAF database. It will also let you add some things to the PAF data file that you can't see in PAF 5, such as To Do Items (for research), DNA test results, etc. It can let you create a research log right in your PAF data file. Gaylon Larry wrote: > Gaylon: > > 1. Does PAFWiz 2.0 integrate into PAF 5.2 or do you open the program > separately to use it's features? > > 2. Does PAFWiz 2.0 work with Windows 98 & Windows 98SE as well as XP and > Vista? We have 2 machines on a network one using XP and the other 98SE > with the database stored on the XP machine. We enter/edit data etc from > both machines. > > 3. Can you add/edit database from within PAFWiz 2.0? > > Regards, > > Larry > > ***** > : Paul: > : > : You can use either Ancestral Quest or PAFWiz to compare two PAF > : databases. You would go to the Tools menu, then to the "Compare/Merge > : Databases" option. > : > : Gaylon Findlay > : Incline Software > : > : > : [email protected] wrote: > : : Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I > : : have a > : : backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current > : : version of a > : : database to find individuals in the current version who were not in > : : the older > : : version. > : : > : : Paul </HTML> > : : > : : ------------------------------- > : : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > : : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > : : without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > : : > : : > : > : ------------------------------- > : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > : the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I have a backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current version of a database to find individuals in the current version who were not in the older version. Paul </HTML>

Tom, Go to http://www.ancquest.com/aqindex.htm and check out AQ as well as PAFWiz2. I continue to use PAF but I also rely on PAFWiz2. John Shipman Hendricks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Sevy To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Ancestral Quest I have been using PAF at least since Version 2, and possibly even Version 1. I toyed with Family Origins for awhile, but went back to PAF. I am now wondering about trying AQ. I'd like to know the cost of AQ, and are there various levels of AQ at different prices? What is their website so I can read up on it? Tom Sevy in SLC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul: You can use either Ancestral Quest or PAFWiz to compare two PAF databases. You would go to the Tools menu, then to the "Compare/Merge Databases" option. Gaylon Findlay Incline Software [email protected] wrote: > Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I have a > backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current version of a > database to find individuals in the current version who were not in the older > version. > > Paul </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Tom: Let me clarify something here, for listers who may not know why PAFWiz 2 was brought into the discussion. The discussion has been around the topic of using AQ along with or as an "update" to PAF. PAFWiz is another product of Incline Software -- it could have been named, "Ancestral Quest Light for PAF Users". It is designed for use by PAF users who intend to keep using PAF, but would like most of the enhancements that are in Ancestral Quest. Whereas Ancestral Quest is primarily for those who intend to use AQ instead of PAF, although AQ can be used as a supplemental program to PAF. (PAFWiz can be found at www.pafwiz.com, and is $24.95.) Gaylon J.S. Hendricks wrote: > Tom, > Go to http://www.ancquest.com/aqindex.htm and check out AQ as well as PAFWiz2. I continue to use PAF but I also rely on PAFWiz2. > John Shipman Hendricks > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Sevy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:13 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] Ancestral Quest > > > I have been using PAF at least since Version 2, and possibly even Version 1. > I toyed with Family Origins for awhile, but went back to PAF. > > I am now wondering about trying AQ. I'd like to know the cost of AQ, and are > there various levels of AQ at different prices? > > What is their website so I can read up on it? > > Tom Sevy in SLC > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

And I said it there, so I'll say it here: not dead is not same as still developed. Cheryl Richard Rands wrote: > For those making comments about the future of PAF may be interested > in the following message that was posted on the Yahoo message board > used by directors at the LDS Church's Family History Centers > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FHCNET/). > > The message dealt with issues regarding the New FamilySearch system > (nFS) currently being rolled out to LDS members. The source is from > a staff member of the Church's Family History Dept. However, the > poster overheard a discussion after the meeting and wrote the following: > > 4. Concerning the future of PAF. I did not ask this question, he was > answering this issue to another person as I walked up. The following is > part of what I heard. It is not a dead program. It will be around for a > long time. There will be some minor changes to the program so that it will > be able to interface with nFS. No time frame for this. > > Richard Rands > > > > > At 05:24 PM 1/1/2008 -0800, you wrote: > >>Gaylon, >>Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had >>know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I >>have somewhere to go. >>John >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM >>Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ >> >> >> >>>Mel: >>> >>>Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. >>> >>>Gaylon >>> >>>Mary Gagne wrote: >>> >>>>Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of >>>>questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably >>>>have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program >>>>much like PAF? >>> >>>*** >>>PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral >>>Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, >>>and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they >>>made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is >>>written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. >>>*** >>> >>>> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand >>>>PAF won't be upgraded any more)? >>> >>>*** >>>9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. >>>Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, >>>including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is >>>currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. >>>*** >>> >>>> And is AQ through the church, or is it >>>>a commercial program and must be purchased? >>> >>>*** >>>It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get >>>funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do >>>have to charge for AQ. >>>*** >>> >>>> Is it a one time fee or is >>>>it something you have to re-purchase yearly? >>>> >>> >>>*** >>>Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that >>>version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as >>>new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use >>>the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using >>>version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) >>>*** >>> >>>>Mel >>>> >>>> >>>>Gaylon Findlay wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Lila: >>>>> >>>>>Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >>>>>better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from >>>>>AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ >>>>>can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or >>>>>convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then >>>>>go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >>>>>alternate which program you use. >>>>> >>>>>You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German >>>>>reports on the same data. >>>>> >>>>>AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language >>>>>in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >>>>>advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >>>>>translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >>>>>Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the >>>>>Danish is very close). >>>>> >>>>>AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You >>>>>won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >>>>>You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the >>>>>report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". >>>>>(Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your >>>>>PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet >>>>>of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >>>>>just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in >>>>>English.) >>>>> >>>>>Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >>>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >>>>> >>>>>You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It >>>>>will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >>>>>think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >>>>>into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should >>>>>do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like >>>>>this.) >>>>> >>>>>Gaylon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Tom: The website is "www.ancquest.com". The price is $29.95. You can just download it, or order a CD, which would involve some shipping charges. You can download a free trial version from the site and try it before you buy it. Gaylon Tom Sevy wrote: > I have been using PAF at least since Version 2, and possibly even Version 1. > I toyed with Family Origins for awhile, but went back to PAF. > > I am now wondering about trying AQ. I'd like to know the cost of AQ, and are > there various levels of AQ at different prices? > > What is their website so I can read up on it? > > Tom Sevy in SLC > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have been using PAF at least since Version 2, and possibly even Version 1. I toyed with Family Origins for awhile, but went back to PAF. I am now wondering about trying AQ. I'd like to know the cost of AQ, and are there various levels of AQ at different prices? What is their website so I can read up on it? Tom Sevy in SLC

> Is there a way to compare PAF5 databases to find differences? I have a > backup from a few years ago that I'd like to compare to a current version > of a > database to find individuals in the current version who were not in the > older > version. PAF Insight has a Compare and Sync feature designed to do exactly that. You can use PAF Insight at your local Family History Center or you can buy it at www.ohanasoftware.com Aloha, John

In a recent interview with Jackie McKay and Mary Slawson on "Relatively Speaking" on KSL radio, John Vilburn of Ohana software said that a new version of Family Insight will be offered as a free upgrade to registered users of PAF Insight. This new version of FI will interface with New FamilySearch allowing uploads and downloads. (This will add the download capability from nFS that is missing from PAF.) Note that it is not currently possible to download data from nFS, but this will be possible in future versions of the nFS website. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rands" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > For those making comments about the future of PAF may be interested > in the following message that was posted on the Yahoo message board > used by directors at the LDS Church's Family History Centers > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FHCNET/). > > The message dealt with issues regarding the New FamilySearch system > (nFS) currently being rolled out to LDS members. The source is from > a staff member of the Church's Family History Dept. However, the > poster overheard a discussion after the meeting and wrote the following: > > 4. Concerning the future of PAF. I did not ask this question, he was > answering this issue to another person as I walked up. The following is > part of what I heard. It is not a dead program. It will be around for a > long time. There will be some minor changes to the program so that it will > be able to interface with nFS. No time frame for this. > > Richard Rands > > > > > At 05:24 PM 1/1/2008 -0800, you wrote: > >Gaylon, > >Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had > >know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I > >have somewhere to go. > >John > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > > > > > > > Mel: > > > > > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > > > > > Gaylon > > > > > > Mary Gagne wrote: > > >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of > > >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably > > >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program > > >> much like PAF? > > > *** > > > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > > > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > > > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > > > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > > > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > > > *** > > >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand > > >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > > > *** > > > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > > > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > > > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > > > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > > > *** > > >> And is AQ through the church, or is it > > >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > > > *** > > > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > > > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > > > have to charge for AQ. > > > *** > > >> Is it a one time fee or is > > >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? > > >> > > > *** > > > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > > > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > > > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > > > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > > > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > > > *** > > >> Mel > > >> > > >> > > >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: > > >> > > >>> Lila: > > >>> > > >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a > > >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from > > >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ > > >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or > > >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then > > >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can > > >>> alternate which program you use. > > >>> > > >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German > > >>> reports on the same data. > > >>> > > >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language > > >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken > > >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start > > >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, > > >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the > > >>> Danish is very close). > > >>> > > >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You > > >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. > > >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the > > >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". > > >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your > > >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet > > >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can > > >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in > > >>> English.) > > >>> > > >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: > > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest > > >>> > > >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It > > >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I > > >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get > > >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should > > >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like > > >>> this.) > > >>> > > >>> Gaylon > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 3:32 PM > >

Thank you so much for the information. Mel Gaylon Findlay wrote: > Mel: > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > Gaylon > > Mary Gagne wrote: > >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program >> much like PAF? >> > *** > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > *** > >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? >> > *** > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > *** > >> And is AQ through the church, or is it >> a commercial program and must be purchased? >> > *** > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > have to charge for AQ. > *** > >> Is it a one time fee or is >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? >> >> > *** > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > *** > >> Mel >> >> >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: >> >> >>> Lila: >>> >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >>> alternate which program you use. >>> >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German >>> reports on the same data. >>> >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the >>> Danish is very close). >>> >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in English.) >>> >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >>> >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like this.) >>> >>> Gaylon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks. Don Boudreaux Gaylon Findlay wrote: > Don: > > I think the file you downloaded was "adam.aqz". That is a backup file, > and you will need to use AQ's "Restore" capability to restore it into a > normal database. > > The link for others who would like to look at this file is: > "http://www.ancestralquestonline.com/updates/files/adam.aqz" (It has > about 5,000 individuals from current European royalty back to Adam. > Someone put this together in PAF 2.31 15 years ago, and sent a copy to > us. It's a cool file to browse. It was created using an older version of > AQ, so after it is restored, it will have you go through a couple of > screens to convert it to a newer AQ 12 file. You'll want to give it a > name like "Adam-12.aq". Adam is RIN 3506 in this file, and Queen > Elizabeth II is RIN 3608.) > > Gaylon > > > Don Boudreaux wrote: > >> I downloaded the trial version of Ancestral Quest and the ADAM.ACQ >> file and Acesstral Quest did not recognize it. I tried rename it to ADAM.AQ >> and it still did not recognize it as an AQ file?? >> It did convert my PAF file to AQ. >> >> Don Boudreaux >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

For those making comments about the future of PAF may be interested in the following message that was posted on the Yahoo message board used by directors at the LDS Church's Family History Centers (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FHCNET/). The message dealt with issues regarding the New FamilySearch system (nFS) currently being rolled out to LDS members. The source is from a staff member of the Church's Family History Dept. However, the poster overheard a discussion after the meeting and wrote the following: 4. Concerning the future of PAF. I did not ask this question, he was answering this issue to another person as I walked up. The following is part of what I heard. It is not a dead program. It will be around for a long time. There will be some minor changes to the program so that it will be able to interface with nFS. No time frame for this. Richard Rands At 05:24 PM 1/1/2008 -0800, you wrote: >Gaylon, >Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had >know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I >have somewhere to go. >John >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > > > > Mel: > > > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > > > Gaylon > > > > Mary Gagne wrote: > >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of > >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably > >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program > >> much like PAF? > > *** > > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > > *** > >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand > >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > > *** > > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > > *** > >> And is AQ through the church, or is it > >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > > *** > > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > > have to charge for AQ. > > *** > >> Is it a one time fee or is > >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? > >> > > *** > > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > > *** > >> Mel > >> > >> > >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: > >> > >>> Lila: > >>> > >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a > >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from > >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ > >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or > >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then > >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can > >>> alternate which program you use. > >>> > >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German > >>> reports on the same data. > >>> > >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language > >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken > >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start > >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, > >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the > >>> Danish is very close). > >>> > >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You > >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. > >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the > >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". > >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your > >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet > >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can > >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in > >>> English.) > >>> > >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest > >>> > >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It > >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I > >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get > >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should > >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like > >>> this.) > >>> > >>> Gaylon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gaylon, Thanks for your postings on AQ. I have been using PAF for 5 years and I had know idea it was connected with AQ. So now I know if PAF becomes obsolete I have somewhere to go. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] AQ > Mel: > > Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. > > Gaylon > > Mary Gagne wrote: >> Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of >> questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably >> have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program >> much like PAF? > *** > PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral > Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, > and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they > made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is > written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. > *** >> And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand >> PAF won't be upgraded any more)? > *** > 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. > Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, > including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is > currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. > *** >> And is AQ through the church, or is it >> a commercial program and must be purchased? > *** > It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get > funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do > have to charge for AQ. > *** >> Is it a one time fee or is >> it something you have to re-purchase yearly? >> > *** > Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that > version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as > new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use > the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using > version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) > *** >> Mel >> >> >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: >> >>> Lila: >>> >>> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >>> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from >>> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ >>> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or >>> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then >>> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >>> alternate which program you use. >>> >>> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German >>> reports on the same data. >>> >>> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language >>> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >>> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >>> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >>> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the >>> Danish is very close). >>> >>> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You >>> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >>> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the >>> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". >>> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your >>> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet >>> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >>> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in >>> English.) >>> >>> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >>> >>> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It >>> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >>> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >>> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should >>> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like >>> this.) >>> >>> Gaylon >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mel: Let me intersperse answers in between your questions below. Gaylon Mary Gagne wrote: > Been reading the messages about PAF versus AQ, have a couple of > questions. I haven't worked much with PAF recently and there probably > have been changes made since I started it. But AQ, is this a program > much like PAF? *** PAF is essentially a slightly modified version of an older Ancestral Quest. Incline Software gave the AQ code to the LDS Church 9 years ago, and Church programmers made a few changes and called it PAF 4. Then they made a few more changes and called it PAF 5. But most of the code is written by Incline Software, and is Ancestral Quest code. *** > And is it upgraded from time to time (like I understand > PAF won't be upgraded any more)? *** 9 years ago, when the code was given to the Church, AQ was at version 3. Scores of enhancements and improvements have been made to AQ since then, including most of the enhancements made to PAF, plus a bunch more. AQ is currently at version 12. And it is still being upgraded. *** > And is AQ through the church, or is it > a commercial program and must be purchased? *** It is a commercial program. Unfortunately, Incline Software doesn't get funded through Tithing funds of the LDS Church as PAF does, so we do have to charge for AQ. *** > Is it a one time fee or is > it something you have to re-purchase yearly? > *** Like most commercial software, you can purchase it once and use that version for as long as you like. There is no yearly renewal. However, as new versions are released, you would have to pay an upgrade fee to use the newer features. (Some users are still quite happy to continue using version 1.0 from 1994. They have only paid a fee one time.) *** > Mel > > > Gaylon Findlay wrote: > >> Lila: >> >> Yes, GEDCOMs will go from PAF to AQ seamlessly. But there is even a >> better way. AQ can directly convert databases from PAF into AQ and from >> AQ into PAF (you won't need to use GEDCOM unless you really want to). AQ >> can also work with your PAF file so that you don't need to export it or >> convert it. You can even use AQ to deal with the advanced features, then >> go back to using PAF. Since they both use the same database, you can >> alternate which program you use. >> >> You can use AQ to edit your PAF data, then use PAF to print your German >> reports on the same data. >> >> AQ has the ability for users to translate the program into any language >> in the world. At present, we are not aware of any who have fully taken >> advantage of this capability -- we have heard of some efforts to start >> translating into Danish, German, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Spanish, >> Polish and I believe Russian. But I don't believe any are complete (the >> Danish is very close). >> >> AQ will work a little differently than PAF when it comes to reports. You >> won't have to use the whole program in German to get a German report. >> You will be able to use the program in English, and choose German as the >> report language. So you won't have to "memorize which buttons to click". >> (Even before a German translation is fully available, you could use your >> PAF Family Group Sheet as a guide, and translate the Family Group Sheet >> of AQ into German so that you could use AQ to do this. -- Or, you can >> just use the German version of PAF to do this while you use AQ in English.) >> >> Yes, there is a support mailing list for AQ: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AncestralQuest >> >> You can go to www.ancquest.com and download the trial version of AQ. It >> will open your PAF database. After a few minutes of playing with AQ, I >> think you'll realize that it is so similar to PAF, that you won't "get >> into trouble doing a changeover". (To give you peace of mind, you should >> do a backup of your PAF database before you start experimenting like this.) >> >> Gaylon >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >