LaVerne: Another idea is to create a custom event that will show on reports as an event. I'm not sure what to call it -- Donation of Body, or something like that. In my mind, the main purpose for having the Burial field next to the Death field (like having the Christening field next to the Birth field), is so that if you can't locate the death information on an ancestor, at least you can find something close. Burial is, after all, pretty common. But in this case, there is no burial, so ignore it. It doesn't fit. Create the custom event that fits. Gaylon Ross G.H. Cotton wrote: > I haven't run up against that specifically but I would insert the data in a > Note that is tied to Death or Burial. > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LaVerne" <[email protected]> > To: "PAF5" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] Burial date and place > > > >> Hi, >> >> How do you all handle the space for burial date and place when the >> deceased has donated his/her body to a hospital for research? >> >> LaVerne >> >> >> LaVerne, >> >> Researching BACHMANN, BOEHMKE, HEMMANN, HEINEMANN, LANDL, LINHARDT, OTTO, >> PIETSCHMANN, ROEHL, SEHLER, SIEVERS, TELLE, ZACHARIAE, ZEITLER >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Have you checked with the hospital what they do with the unused parts? There may actually be a cremation and a final resting place. Along with the other excellent advice, remember that just because there is a place to put information does not mean it is a sin to leave it blank. If the deceased had asked that the circumstances of his disposition not be made public I would only enter in the notes something like "not buried or cremated", if only to alert later researchers not to look for such. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaVerne" <[email protected]> To: "PAF5" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Burial date and place > Hi, > > How do you all handle the space for burial date and place when the > deceased has donated his/her body to a hospital for research? > > LaVerne > > > LaVerne, > > Researching BACHMANN, BOEHMKE, HEMMANN, HEINEMANN, LANDL, LINHARDT, OTTO, > PIETSCHMANN, ROEHL, SEHLER, SIEVERS, TELLE, ZACHARIAE, ZEITLER > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, How do you all handle the space for burial date and place when the deceased has donated his/her body to a hospital for research? LaVerne LaVerne, Researching BACHMANN, BOEHMKE, HEMMANN, HEINEMANN, LANDL, LINHARDT, OTTO, PIETSCHMANN, ROEHL, SEHLER, SIEVERS, TELLE, ZACHARIAE, ZEITLER

Don Rubarts wrote: > Did you ever wire the boards for the old unit record machines - sorters, > collators, tabulators, etc. ? > > Don > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Way off topic. 8>) Still have my wiring gun and card gages. Fingers got sore wiring boards. -- Dick Miller Hot Springs Village, Arkansas http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~dmillergv Research member of NEHGS Member of The Sons of the American Revolution Member of the Society of Mayflower Descendants Member of The Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Massachusetts Member of The Order of the Founders and Patriots of America Member of the Sabin/Sabine/Sabean Association Past Member of the Outhouse Family Historical Society Member of Rural Lodge A.F. & A.M., Quincy, Massachusetts Member of SABBAR Shrine, Tucson, Arizona Member of Hot Springs Village Shrine Club, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Pretty good on computers (IBM retiree) and lousy at golf Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

Check carefully that all your hardware will work with Vista. I bought a new computer with Vista OS last year. My Hewlett Packard scanner will not work with it. At first HP thought they were going to provide a driver to enable it to work then decided that the model was too old and they would not provide a driver for it. So I had to get a new scanner even though my old one had worked perfectly. So I got a scanner/printer combined as my printer didn't quite work as it should have with Vista. Now I have to pay an arm and a leg for ink cartridges for the new printer. I could get generic ink cartridges for my old printer that were 1/3 of the price but there are no generic cartridges available for my new printer so far. PAF 5 works fine with Vista though. John ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Paf % Vista > To Gary and all others thank you for the information on vista.? Yes, to me > OPS in operating system. > > Bob Trapp > Fairfield, CA > > > From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It is unlikely you would need to re-purchase ALL your software. For > specific > programs you should go to the company and read their information about > Vista > compatibility. Many programs such as PAF will run fine, others may have a > free patch or update (depending on how old the program is), and others > will > need to be upgraded to a new version. > > I would also suggest running the Vista Upgrade Advisor > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx > > It will give you a report on the compatibility of your current software > (even though you are not planning on installing vista on the current > laptop). > > Finally, if you do have particular programs that would be expensive to > update and will not run on Vista, consider getting a new computer that > still > has XP (Dell is selling them), or dual boot XP and Vista. You have an XP > license with your current laptop, and IF you have a real XP installation > disk (not a restore disk) it is perfectly legal to take XP off your > current > computer and install it on the new. We need to stop letting Microsoft > create > these ripple effects of forced upgrades to otherwise perfectly good > software > that we have purchased. If more people just say no to Vista, it will be a > short term OS like Windows ME. > > Gary Templeman > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:01 am > Subject: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28 > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. vista?? ops ([email protected]) > 2. Re: vista?? ops (Ross G.H. Cotton) > 3. Re: vista?? ops (Gary Templeman) > 4. Re: vista?? ops (Gary Templeman) > 5. Re: vista?? ops (Leta Christiansen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:21:06 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking > to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:36:36 -0500 > From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Bob > I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home Premium, > on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to be > mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems > with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for > WordPerfect > to version X3, for $30.00. > > The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as > I > can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local > Graphics Print shop, make a copy. > > The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb > Mode > Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". > > Best of luck. > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:49:05 -0800 > From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I believe he means OPerating System. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >> Bob >> I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home >> Premium, >> on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to >> be >> mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems >> with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for >> WordPerfect >> to version X3, for $30.00. >> >> The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as >> I >> can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local >> Graphics Print shop, make a copy. >> >> The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb >> Mode >> Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". >> >> Best of luck. >> >> >> Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 >> Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma >> I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above >> >> GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 >> Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide >> see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM >> Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >> >> >>>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>>to >>> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase >>> all >>> of >>> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >>> for PAF >>> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >>> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >>> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:02:24 -0800 > From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It is unlikely you would need to re-purchase ALL your software. For > specific > programs you should go to the company and read their information about > Vista > compatibility. Many programs such as PAF will run fine, others may have a > free patch or update (depending on how old the program is), and others > will > need to be upgraded to a new version. > > I would also suggest running the Vista Upgrade Advisor > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx > > It will give you a report on the compatibility of your current software > (even though you are not planning on installing vista on the current > laptop). > > Finally, if you do have particular programs that would be expensive to > update and will not run on Vista, consider getting a new computer that > still > has XP (Dell is selling them), or dual boot XP and Vista. You have an XP > license with your current laptop, and IF you have a real XP installation > disk (not a restore disk) it is perfectly legal to take XP off your > current > computer and install it on the new. We need to stop letting Microsoft > create > these ripple effects of forced upgrades to otherwise perfectly good > software > that we have purchased. If more people just say no to Vista, it will be a > short term OS like Windows ME. > > Gary Templeman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:31:25 -0800 > From: "Leta Christiansen" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > PAF5 works just great in Vista. Been there, Done That. > Leta in SF > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PAF-5-USERS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the PAF-5-USERS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28 > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Did you ever wire the boards for the old unit record machines - sorters, collators, tabulators, etc. ? Don

[email protected] wrote: > To Gary and all others thank you for the information on vista.? Yes, to me OPS in operating system. > > Bob Trapp > Fairfield, CA (G) As a favor to the older ones of us, could you use OS instead of OPS? It would save us sitting around looking (and feeling!) dumb. ;) Cheryl (who remembers having OS choices of IBM or Honeywell) -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Here is a Microsoft web page that you can use to see if you machine will accept Vista. It checks hardware, devices and programs. You need to download and run a small applet to scan your machine. Even if you are going to buy a new machine it will tell you if your programs are going to be compatible. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx Dan in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28-XP or Vista You should check what the computer store sales people are telling you. Most software which will run in XP will also run in Vista. I think someone is just trying to sell you new software. Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248 Phone: (972) 991-4891 [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28-XP or Vista > In a message dated 3/3/2008 3:09:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > >> >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >> to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for >> PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> > > Good Morning Bob > As someone else stated you can still buy a Dell from Dell with XP. This > will > be true until the end of May. I just bought mine recently to avoid Vista. > I > strongly recommend buying the additional warrenty for the laptop. I use > mine > quite a bit on the road as we travel a lot chasing dead people and the > warrenty has paid for itself due to mishaps I have had. > Doug Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > > > ************** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff > y/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

---- singhals <[email protected]> wrote: > [email protected] wrote: > > > To Gary and all others thank you for the information on vista.? Yes, to me OPS in operating system. > > > > Bob Trapp > > Fairfield, CA > > (G) As a favor to the older ones of us, could you use OS > instead of OPS? It would save us sitting around looking > (and feeling!) dumb. ;) > > Cheryl (who remembers having OS choices of IBM or Honeywell) When was the last time you IPL'd a machine? When was the last time you punched up JCL or OCL cards? 8>) Dick Miller Hot Springs Village, AR

In a message dated 3/3/2008 3:09:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > From: [email protected] > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all of > > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true for > PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > Good Morning Bob As someone else stated you can still buy a Dell from Dell with XP. This will be true until the end of May. I just bought mine recently to avoid Vista. I strongly recommend buying the additional warrenty for the laptop. I use mine quite a bit on the road as we travel a lot chasing dead people and the warrenty has paid for itself due to mishaps I have had. Doug Burnett Satellite Beach FL ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff y/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

You should check what the computer store sales people are telling you. Most software which will run in XP will also run in Vista. I think someone is just trying to sell you new software. Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248 Phone: (972) 991-4891 [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28-XP or Vista > In a message dated 3/3/2008 3:09:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > >> >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >> to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for >> PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> > > Good Morning Bob > As someone else stated you can still buy a Dell from Dell with XP. This > will > be true until the end of May. I just bought mine recently to avoid Vista. > I > strongly recommend buying the additional warrenty for the laptop. I use > mine > quite a bit on the road as we travel a lot chasing dead people and the > warrenty has paid for itself due to mishaps I have had. > Doug Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > > > ************** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff > y/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:32 PM, [email protected] wrote: > To Gary and all others thank you for the information on vista.? Yes, > to me OPS in operating system. > > Bob Trapp > Fairfield, CA > The most commonly used and understood abbreviation for operating system is OS. Aloha, John

To Gary and all others thank you for the information on vista.? Yes, to me OPS in operating system. Bob Trapp Fairfield, CA From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original It is unlikely you would need to re-purchase ALL your software. For specific programs you should go to the company and read their information about Vista compatibility. Many programs such as PAF will run fine, others may have a free patch or update (depending on how old the program is), and others will need to be upgraded to a new version. I would also suggest running the Vista Upgrade Advisor http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx It will give you a report on the compatibility of your current software (even though you are not planning on installing vista on the current laptop). Finally, if you do have particular programs that would be expensive to update and will not run on Vista, consider getting a new computer that still has XP (Dell is selling them), or dual boot XP and Vista. You have an XP license with your current laptop, and IF you have a real XP installation disk (not a restore disk) it is perfectly legal to take XP off your current computer and install it on the new. We need to stop letting Microsoft create these ripple effects of forced upgrades to otherwise perfectly good software that we have purchased. If more people just say no to Vista, it will be a short term OS like Windows ME. Gary Templeman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:01 am Subject: PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28 Today's Topics: 1. vista?? ops ([email protected]) 2. Re: vista?? ops (Ross G.H. Cotton) 3. Re: vista?? ops (Gary Templeman) 4. Re: vista?? ops (Gary Templeman) 5. Re: vista?? ops (Leta Christiansen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:21:06 EST From: [email protected] Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all of the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true for PAF 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? Bob **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:36:36 -0500 From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Bob I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home Premium, on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to be mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for WordPerfect to version X3, for $30.00. The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as I can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local Graphics Print shop, make a copy. The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb Mode Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". Best of luck. Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:49:05 -0800 From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I believe he means OPerating System. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > Bob > I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home Premium, > on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to be > mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems > with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for > WordPerfect > to version X3, for $30.00. > > The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as > I > can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local > Graphics Print shop, make a copy. > > The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb > Mode > Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". > > Best of luck. > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:02:24 -0800 From: "Gary Templeman" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original It is unlikely you would need to re-purchase ALL your software. For specific programs you should go to the company and read their information about Vista compatibility. Many programs such as PAF will run fine, others may have a free patch or update (depending on how old the program is), and others will need to be upgraded to a new version. I would also suggest running the Vista Upgrade Advisor http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx It will give you a report on the compatibility of your current software (even though you are not planning on installing vista on the current laptop). Finally, if you do have particular programs that would be expensive to update and will not run on Vista, consider getting a new computer that still has XP (Dell is selling them), or dual boot XP and Vista. You have an XP license with your current laptop, and IF you have a real XP installation disk (not a restore disk) it is perfectly legal to take XP off your current computer and install it on the new. We need to stop letting Microsoft create these ripple effects of forced upgrades to otherwise perfectly good software that we have purchased. If more people just say no to Vista, it will be a short term OS like Windows ME. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:31:25 -0800 From: "Leta Christiansen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original PAF5 works just great in Vista. Been there, Done That. Leta in SF ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the PAF-5-USERS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PAF-5-USERS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PAF-5-USERS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28 ******************************************

PAF5 works just great in Vista. Been there, Done That. Leta in SF ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home Premium, on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to be mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for WordPerfect to version X3, for $30.00. The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as I can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local Graphics Print shop, make a copy. The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb Mode Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". Best of luck. Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all of the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true for PAF 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? Bob **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

It is unlikely you would need to re-purchase ALL your software. For specific programs you should go to the company and read their information about Vista compatibility. Many programs such as PAF will run fine, others may have a free patch or update (depending on how old the program is), and others will need to be upgraded to a new version. I would also suggest running the Vista Upgrade Advisor http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx It will give you a report on the compatibility of your current software (even though you are not planning on installing vista on the current laptop). Finally, if you do have particular programs that would be expensive to update and will not run on Vista, consider getting a new computer that still has XP (Dell is selling them), or dual boot XP and Vista. You have an XP license with your current laptop, and IF you have a real XP installation disk (not a restore disk) it is perfectly legal to take XP off your current computer and install it on the new. We need to stop letting Microsoft create these ripple effects of forced upgrades to otherwise perfectly good software that we have purchased. If more people just say no to Vista, it will be a short term OS like Windows ME. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops >I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking to > the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all > of > the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true > for PAF > 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? > > Bob > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe he means OPerating System. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross G.H. Cotton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > Bob > I don't know what you mean by OPS, but I have Windows Vista, Home Premium, > on my laptop and after many problems, over 6 months, that turned out to be > mine, my inability to recognise a change in thinking, I have no problems > with PAF5. The only program that I had to buy was an update for > WordPerfect > to version X3, for $30.00. > > The only problem I have is with my other genealogy program RootsMagic, as > I > can't create a large Wall Chart in a format that I can have my local > Graphics Print shop, make a copy. > > The beauty of Window Vista is that they have included a Compatibilityb > Mode > Wizard that helps you "Run Older Programs on Vista". > > Best of luck. > > > Ross GH Cotton, Burlington, ON, CAN 905)639-2929 > Genealogy of the Cotton surname is my Enigma > I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above > > GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name, COTTON, #1437 > Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide > see http://home.comcast.net/~cottondna/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:21 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] vista?? ops > > >>I use a laptop with an XP ops and need to buy a new one. After talking >>to >> the sales people at the computer store is seems I have to repurchase all >> of >> the programs I use again to run in the vista ops. Does this hold true >> for PAF >> 5.2? or will it run OK with the Vista ops? >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your help, however, I am not a blood relative of the person I am trying to connect to, thus the relationship tool will never give me any results. I was hoping there was something else with PAF that would work, or perhaps someone would suggest software that could do what I want. So far I've received a suggestion to look for a gedcom reader that might have this feature. Maybe someone else will know which one or have another piece of software in mind. Sandy On 1 Mar 2008 at 15:50, Autumn wrote: > Sandy --- I am not sure this will help but here goes: > Be sure your name is in the upper left hand box as the Root Person > Click on Tools Choose Prefence Choose File See the Relationship > Indicators Check Show Relationships on status bar OK OK and in the far > lower left hand corner you will see your relationship to whoever is > highlighted (i.e. 1st Cousin 3 Times Removed) Autumn in Coeur d'Alene, > Idaho > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Rozhon" <[email protected]> > Subject: [PAF-5] Will PAF show me the connections? > > > I have a very large family tree with many side branches (ie. > following various spousal families) and from time to time I find that > someone's name is in my file but the path to them from me is so > convoluted that it is hard to figure out. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: > 2/29/2008 6:32 PM >

Sandy: Ancestral Quest 12 works with your PAF database. It also has a very unique feature that might help you here. In addition to the relationship calculator, it has the ability to generate Custom ID numbers using some of the standard numbering systems for genealogy databases. It should be able to create an ID that will give you the relationship for any person in the file to any other person. Typically, you start with one person (like yourself), and ask it to generate the IDs. If you use either the Dollarhide numbering system or a similar system we created for AQ before we learned of the Dollarhide system, you should be able to see how any person is related to you. (Both systems combine the Ahnentafel numbering for ancestors and the Henry numbering for descendants.) One limitation you might have on using this feature is the fact that a PAF database can only store 10 characters for the Custom ID field (whereas the AQ database allows for 40 characters). If your relationship is quite complex, it may not fit in the 10 characters. The help that comes with AQ will explain in full detail the codes, and give you several examples for how to interpret them to find how someone is related to you. Here is a short example to give you an idea (this was taken from the Help and modified slightly): "'4+163.7' - Remember that the period indicates an ahnentafel number follows, and that the ‘+’ symbol for a spouse was converted to this period. So, reading right to left, this number is the ancestor whose ahnentafel number is 7 (the mother's mother) of the spouse of the 3rd child of the 6th child of the 1st child of the person who is a direct ancestor of the root person, having an ahnentafel number of 4 (the father of your father)." This would take up 7 of the 10 characters in the Custom ID field of your PAF database. Hope this helps. Gaylon Findlay Incline Software Sandy Rozhon wrote: > Thanks for your help, however, I am not a blood relative of the > person I am trying to connect to, thus the relationship tool will > never give me any results. I was hoping there was something else > with PAF that would work, or perhaps someone would suggest software > that could do what I want. So far I've received a suggestion to look > for a gedcom reader that might have this feature. Maybe someone else > will know which one or have another piece of software in mind. > > Sandy > > On 1 Mar 2008 at 15:50, Autumn wrote: > > >> Sandy --- I am not sure this will help but here goes: >> Be sure your name is in the upper left hand box as the Root Person >> Click on Tools Choose Prefence Choose File See the Relationship >> Indicators Check Show Relationships on status bar OK OK and in the far >> lower left hand corner you will see your relationship to whoever is >> highlighted (i.e. 1st Cousin 3 Times Removed) Autumn in Coeur d'Alene, >> Idaho >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandy Rozhon" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [PAF-5] Will PAF show me the connections? >> >> >> I have a very large family tree with many side branches (ie. >> following various spousal families) and from time to time I find that >> someone's name is in my file but the path to them from me is so >> convoluted that it is hard to figure out. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: >> 2/29/2008 6:32 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >