Thank you very much Marg Port Stephens, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > Marg: > > This is an article I wrote several years ago on some basic usage of the > Advanced Filtering: http://www.ancquest.com/t_t6.htm > > This was written about the time we gave the code to the LDS Church for > use in PAF -- so even though this article mentions Ancestral Quest, the > Advanced Filtering works the same in PAF. > > Gaylon > > > marg wrote: >> I have never worked out how to do Advanced Focus filter. >> >> Is there an easy explanation? >> >> >> Marg >> Port Stephens, NSW >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Sevy" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:53 AM >> Subject: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? >> >> >> >>> I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 >>> (possibly even Version 1). >>> >>> I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature >>> called >>> Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a >>> search >>> was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in >>> the >>> State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY born >>> in >>> Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. >>> >>> How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? >>> >>> Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? >>> >>> I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the >>> Full >>> Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the >>> full >>> featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but >>> when >>> I >>> looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features >>> didn't seem all that important to me. >>> >>> Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah >>> >>> PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent to >>> Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also >>> generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. >>> The >>> person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to hear >>> what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main >>> suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds >>> reasonable to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, I will try it. Marg Port Stephens, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > Marg, > Like most things it gets easier with practice. For example, if you wanted > to > search for everyone in your database that was connected to Michigan, you > could click Search > Advanced Focus Filter > Define > Any Place > > Full > Place > Contains > Michigan > OK > Show Results Only > OK > > To search your Notes for all references to the word "census", you could > click Search > Advanced Focus Filter > Define > Notes > > Contains > > census >> OK > Show Results Only > OK > > Using "Show Results Only" means that only individuals matching the filter > set will be shown in the "Find Individual" screen, making it easy to > examine > them. > > You remove the check mark from "Show Results Only" in order to see > everyone > in the database instead of just the selected set. (You click Clear to > clear > the filter set. Never click Delete unless you want to permanently remove > the > selected records from your database.) If you have accidentally imported a > gedcom file, one way to get rid of the new records is to select the range > of > new RINs and Delete these records, (after making a backup with a new name > of > course). This can be done with an advanced Focus Filter. > > So it is a powerful and somewhat dangerous tool. I find it very useful! > > Bill Buchanan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marg" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:51 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > > >> I have never worked out how to do Advanced Focus filter. >> >> Is there an easy explanation? >> >> >> Marg >> Port Stephens, NSW >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Sevy" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:53 AM >> Subject: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? >> >> >> >I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 >> > (possibly even Version 1). >> > >> > I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature > called >> > Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a > search >> > was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in >> > the >> > State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY >> > born >> > in >> > Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. >> > >> > How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? >> > >> > Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? >> > >> > I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the >> > Full >> > Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the > full >> > featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but > when >> > I >> > looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features >> > didn't seem all that important to me. >> > >> > Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah >> > >> > PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent >> > to >> > Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also >> > generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. > The >> > person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to >> > hear >> > what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main >> > suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds >> > reasonable to me. >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1366 - Release Date: >> 4/8/2008 > 5:03 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have never worked out how to do Advanced Focus filter. Is there an easy explanation? Marg Port Stephens, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Sevy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? >I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 > (possibly even Version 1). > > I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature called > Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a search > was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in > the > State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY born > in > Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. > > How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? > > Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? > > I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the > Full > Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the full > featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but when > I > looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features > didn't seem all that important to me. > > Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah > > PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent to > Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also > generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. The > person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to hear > what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main > suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds > reasonable to me. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marg: This is an article I wrote several years ago on some basic usage of the Advanced Filtering: http://www.ancquest.com/t_t6.htm This was written about the time we gave the code to the LDS Church for use in PAF -- so even though this article mentions Ancestral Quest, the Advanced Filtering works the same in PAF. Gaylon marg wrote: > I have never worked out how to do Advanced Focus filter. > > Is there an easy explanation? > > > Marg > Port Stephens, NSW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Sevy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:53 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > > > >> I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 >> (possibly even Version 1). >> >> I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature called >> Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a search >> was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in >> the >> State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY born >> in >> Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. >> >> How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? >> >> Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? >> >> I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the >> Full >> Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the full >> featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but when >> I >> looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features >> didn't seem all that important to me. >> >> Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah >> >> PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent to >> Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also >> generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. The >> person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to hear >> what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main >> suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds >> reasonable to me. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Maybe the third time is the charm, as they say. This is actually my report on the conversion of PDF files to other formats. This time I am just replying without changing the Subject line, in case that was the problem. Zamzar.com WAS able to convert the two PDF files to Word format. One of the PDF files was a 24 page Modified Register Report and the other was a full page graphic file. It took Zamzar about an hour. The link that they emailed to me didn't work, but they also directed me to their website, where there was a download link to a zip archive containing my converted files. Clicking this link downloaded my files to my computer. The files looked perfect in Word. There was heavy use of text boxes, which is excellent for retaining the original formatting, but can be awkward to edit. (PAF probably makes heavier use of text boxes.) I was pleased to get my converted files back in a reasonable time and that the service was free. So consider this (and similar services) when you need to convert a PDF to text. Bill Buchanan

Marg, Like most things it gets easier with practice. For example, if you wanted to search for everyone in your database that was connected to Michigan, you could click Search > Advanced Focus Filter > Define > Any Place > > Full Place > Contains > Michigan > OK > Show Results Only > OK To search your Notes for all references to the word "census", you could click Search > Advanced Focus Filter > Define > Notes > > Contains > census > OK > Show Results Only > OK Using "Show Results Only" means that only individuals matching the filter set will be shown in the "Find Individual" screen, making it easy to examine them. You remove the check mark from "Show Results Only" in order to see everyone in the database instead of just the selected set. (You click Clear to clear the filter set. Never click Delete unless you want to permanently remove the selected records from your database.) If you have accidentally imported a gedcom file, one way to get rid of the new records is to select the range of new RINs and Delete these records, (after making a backup with a new name of course). This can be done with an advanced Focus Filter. So it is a powerful and somewhat dangerous tool. I find it very useful! Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "marg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > I have never worked out how to do Advanced Focus filter. > > Is there an easy explanation? > > > Marg > Port Stephens, NSW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Sevy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:53 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] Legacy ??? > > > >I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 > > (possibly even Version 1). > > > > I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature called > > Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a search > > was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in > > the > > State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY born > > in > > Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. > > > > How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? > > > > Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? > > > > I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the > > Full > > Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the full > > featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but when > > I > > looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features > > didn't seem all that important to me. > > > > Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah > > > > PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent to > > Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also > > generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. The > > person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to hear > > what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main > > suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds > > reasonable to me. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1366 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 5:03 PM > >

I may be jumping the gun a bit here, but so far, all versions of Windows have come with a 'Compatibility Wizard' (just type that into Help to find it) which allows you to run any software as if it were in another (earlier) operating system. My son has several games which will only run under Windows 95, but his machine runs Windows XP. This compatibility wizard allows those games to run under Windows XP. I am assuming therefore that the next version of Windows after Vista will also have this wizard, so the use of PAF will not die after Vista. Don Farnham Researching Norster and Noster, Worldwide www.norster.org.uk GOONS 3004 singhals wrote: > marg wrote: > > >> Good morning. >> >> I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to was >> sent the following >> >> "Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in >> various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll >> out the new version of FamilySearch. " >> >> So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht does >> that mean? >> >> > > _Eventually_ PAF will die because the operating system after > Vista won't run it. Until then, don't worry about > it...unless you want to start looking at alternatives so > you'll know which one to move to 4, 5 years down-stream. > > AncestralQuest is the windows version of PAF's big brother. > LegacyFamily Tree is free. Which of the dozen or so > PC-based programs out there you'd prefer is kinda like which > which Ice cream or car is best -- no accounting for tastes > (g) ... some people are perfectly happy with vanilla > icecream or a VW; others want Rocky Road or a Corvette. > > Cheryl > >

Another Possibility is that the View in WORD needs to be Set to Print Layout to properly show RTF format. Regards Ken Guilette South Barrington, IL USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > Donna, > There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad > instead > of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting and > you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF > file, > and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will > probably > disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the > files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to > the > folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > Open > With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to > open > this kind of file" > MS Word > OK > > Let us know if this solves the problem. > > Bill Buchanan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > > >> Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. >> >> I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have > just >> noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in >> Rich >> Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and > Boxes >> like it is suppose to do. >> >> In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it > is >> suppose to ... >> >> I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. >> >> Can I have some input as what has happened. >> >> Thanks for your Help and Input. >> Donna >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 4/7/2008 > 6:38 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Much. that worked also. As well as the Print Layout. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crispin Rendon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > The little paragraph symbol in Word is called the show/hide feature. > Click on the same symbol button on your toolbar to make the symbol > disappear. > > Crispin > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Donna <[email protected]> >>Sent: Apr 8, 2008 3:25 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF >> >>Bill >>I did that already. What happens is that it opens in Word but I have like >>little Paragraphs Symbols beside each line. >>You can read what is there but it is not in the FGR Form with the lines >>and >>boxes like it is suppose to be. >>Maybe I have Word not formatted right or something.??? I have that >>paragraph >>symbol that I cannot get rid of. >>Donna >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:48 PM >>Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF >> >> >>> Donna, >>> There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad >>> instead >>> of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting >>> and >>> you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF >>> file, >>> and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will >>> probably >>> disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the >>> files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to >>> the >>> folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > >>> Open >>> With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to >>> open >>> this kind of file" > MS Word > OK >>> >>> Let us know if this solves the problem. >>> >>> Bill Buchanan >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM >>> Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF >>> >>> >>>> Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. >>>> >>>> I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have >>> just >>>> noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in >>>> Rich >>>> Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and >>> Boxes >>>> like it is suppose to do. >>>> >>>> In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like >>>> it >>> is >>>> suppose to ... >>>> >>>> I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. >>>> >>>> Can I have some input as what has happened. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your Help and Input. >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: >>>> 4/7/2008 >>> 6:38 PM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: >>> 4/8/2008 >>> 7:30 AM >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > 7:30 AM > >

Print Layout That worked.....Thanks so Much. For you all on PAF5 List. Great Help. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Guilette" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > Another Possibility is that the View in WORD needs to be Set to Print > Layout > to properly show RTF format. > > Regards > > Ken Guilette > South Barrington, IL USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > > >> Donna, >> There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad >> instead >> of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting >> and >> you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF >> file, >> and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will >> probably >> disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the >> files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to >> the >> folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > >> Open >> With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to >> open >> this kind of file" > MS Word > OK >> >> Let us know if this solves the problem. >> >> Bill Buchanan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM >> Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF >> >> >>> Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. >>> >>> I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have >> just >>> noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in >>> Rich >>> Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and >> Boxes >>> like it is suppose to do. >>> >>> In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it >> is >>> suppose to ... >>> >>> I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. >>> >>> Can I have some input as what has happened. >>> >>> Thanks for your Help and Input. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: >>> 4/7/2008 >> 6:38 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > 7:30 AM > >

I am considering trying out Legacy after using PAF ever since Version2 (possibly even Version 1). I have one major concern about Legacy: In PAF 5 there is a feature called Advanced Focus Filter that I find very confusing. In PAF 2, doing a search was VERY SIMPLE. I could type SEVY in the surname field; type KANSAS in the State field, hit some Function Key, and it would give me every SEVY born in Kansas. I could also do more complex searches just as easily. How are such searches done in the Basic Legacy? Are searches in the Advanced Legacy done any differently? I have another question. For those who have had both the Basic and the Full Featured Legacy, what are the three most important features that the full featured program has over the free program. I'm not a cheapskate, but when I looked over the features on the Legacy web site, the advanced features didn't seem all that important to me. Tom Sevy in Taylorsville, Utah PS: As I was writing this I got a response to an inquiry which I sent to Legacy last night. This is VERY satisfactory in my opinion. I am also generally pleased to see that they will respond quickly to questions. The person at Legacy gave me a good answer, but I'm still interested to hear what "users" think. Although he responded to my questions, his main suggestion was that I download the FREE version and try it out. Sounds reasonable to me.

Donna, There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad instead of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting and you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF file, and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will probably disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to the folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > Open With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" > MS Word > OK Let us know if this solves the problem. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. > > I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have just > noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in Rich > Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and Boxes > like it is suppose to do. > > In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it is > suppose to ... > > I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. > > Can I have some input as what has happened. > > Thanks for your Help and Input. > Donna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 4/7/2008 6:38 PM > >

The little paragraph symbol in Word is called the show/hide feature. Click on the same symbol button on your toolbar to make the symbol disappear. Crispin -----Original Message----- >From: Donna <[email protected]> >Sent: Apr 8, 2008 3:25 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > >Bill >I did that already. What happens is that it opens in Word but I have like >little Paragraphs Symbols beside each line. >You can read what is there but it is not in the FGR Form with the lines and >boxes like it is suppose to be. >Maybe I have Word not formatted right or something.??? I have that paragraph >symbol that I cannot get rid of. >Donna > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:48 PM >Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > > >> Donna, >> There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad >> instead >> of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting and >> you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF >> file, >> and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will >> probably >> disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the >> files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to >> the >> folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > Open >> With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to >> open >> this kind of file" > MS Word > OK >> >> Let us know if this solves the problem. >> >> Bill Buchanan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM >> Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF >> >> >>> Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. >>> >>> I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have >> just >>> noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in >>> Rich >>> Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and >> Boxes >>> like it is suppose to do. >>> >>> In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it >> is >>> suppose to ... >>> >>> I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. >>> >>> Can I have some input as what has happened. >>> >>> Thanks for your Help and Input. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 4/7/2008 >> 6:38 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 >> 7:30 AM >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill I did that already. What happens is that it opens in Word but I have like little Paragraphs Symbols beside each line. You can read what is there but it is not in the FGR Form with the lines and boxes like it is suppose to be. Maybe I have Word not formatted right or something.??? I have that paragraph symbol that I cannot get rid of. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Buchanan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > Donna, > There is a chance that RTF files are associated with Windows Wordpad > instead > of Word 2003. Wordpad is not able to interpret the advanced formatting and > you see garbage. If you exit Wordpad without editing or saving the RTF > file, > and then open the RTF file from Word's File menu, the problem will > probably > disappear. If that is what is happening, you should be able to have the > files open in Word by associating Word with RTF files. To do this, go to > the > folder where an RTF file is located, right-click on the file's icon > Open > With > Choose Program > check mark "Always use the selected program to > open > this kind of file" > MS Word > OK > > Let us know if this solves the problem. > > Bill Buchanan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:17 PM > Subject: [PAF-5] Help with FGR opening in RTF > > >> Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. >> >> I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have > just >> noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in >> Rich >> Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and > Boxes >> like it is suppose to do. >> >> In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it > is >> suppose to ... >> >> I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. >> >> Can I have some input as what has happened. >> >> Thanks for your Help and Input. >> Donna >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 4/7/2008 > 6:38 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > 7:30 AM > >

Need some input on opening my PAF5 FGR in the RTF. I recently purchased a new computer which has Word 2003 in it. I have just noticed when I try to Print to File and Open a Family Group Record in Rich Text Formula that it will not open correctly with all of the Lines and Boxes like it is suppose to do. In my old Version of Word 97 Had no problem with the FGR showing like it is suppose to ... I also have had to re-install my PAF5 program on the new computer. Can I have some input as what has happened. Thanks for your Help and Input. Donna

Yes, thanks, Gary. Cheryl Gary Templeman wrote: > To clarify, the basic Legacy program is free and is a good solid program, > but does not have all the features that the paid Legacy Deluxe version has. > When a software program comes in more than one "flavor" and one want to use > the free version, it is good to research the differences to be sure you > understand the limitations. The free versions work for a lot of people, and > are also great for testing even if you think you might want to upgrade to > the paid version later. > > Gary Templeman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "singhals" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re PAF2wiz > > > >>marg wrote: >> >> >>>Good morning. >>> >>>I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to >>>was >>>sent the following >>> >>>"Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in >>>various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll >>>out the new version of FamilySearch. " >>> >>>So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht >>>does >>>that mean? >>> >> >>_Eventually_ PAF will die because the operating system after >>Vista won't run it. Until then, don't worry about >>it...unless you want to start looking at alternatives so >>you'll know which one to move to 4, 5 years down-stream. >> >>AncestralQuest is the windows version of PAF's big brother. >>LegacyFamily Tree is free. Which of the dozen or so >>PC-based programs out there you'd prefer is kinda like which >>which Ice cream or car is best -- no accounting for tastes >>(g) ... some people are perfectly happy with vanilla >>icecream or a VW; others want Rocky Road or a Corvette. >> >>Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Good morning. I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to was sent the following "Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll out the new version of FamilySearch. " So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht does that mean? Would be grateful for advice. Marg Port Stephens NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re PAF2wiz > Cheryl: > > I haven't tried this, but I think you could. The problem with this > approach is that you'd lose all the nice formatting, and the text would > contain the information, but not be very pretty. > > If you're primarily working with the two narrative reports -- the > Ahnentafel and Modified Register, there are better ways to do this > (described below.) For other reports you might include such as fan > charts, descendant charts, pedigree charts, family group sheets, etc., > this text format would not be presentable in a published book. > > If you're primarily using the Ahnentafel and Modified Book reports in > your family book, don't even use the 'Publish a Family Book' feature. > Just create these reports to RTF or WordPerfect format, then use Word or > WordPerfect to combine the various smaller reports into a single larger > report, along with any other documents, and finally generate the index > -- when you generate these two reports from PAFWiz to an RTF or > WordPerfect file, it puts the index entries into the document, so this > should be an easy task. > > Gaylon > > > singhals wrote: >> Gaylon Findlay wrote: >> >> >>> Mareen: >>> >>> If you want an RTF file, like you'd get in PAF, you use the method Bill >>> outlines. >>> >>> The "Publish a Family Book" allows you to combine several reports all >>> into one large report with a master table of contents and master index. >>> This option does not have the capability of generating to an RTF file -- >>> you can either print it directly to your printer or to a PDF file. >>> >>> Gaylon >>> >>> >>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >>> >>> >> >> >> Gaylon, >> >> couldn't you install a generic text printer and select that >> as the default? And then once you've got the text file, you >> can do whatever you want with it by way of fonts, >> insertions, etc etc. You'd probably have to remark all the >> index entries, and that might not be worth minor tweaks in >> the layout/presentation. >> >> Also, seems to me I've heard about a freeware/shareware >> program that lets you edit pdf files -- will PAFWhiz let >> you install that one? >> >> Cheryl >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

marg wrote: > Good morning. > > I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to was > sent the following > > "Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in > various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll > out the new version of FamilySearch. " > > So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht does > that mean? > _Eventually_ PAF will die because the operating system after Vista won't run it. Until then, don't worry about it...unless you want to start looking at alternatives so you'll know which one to move to 4, 5 years down-stream. AncestralQuest is the windows version of PAF's big brother. LegacyFamily Tree is free. Which of the dozen or so PC-based programs out there you'd prefer is kinda like which which Ice cream or car is best -- no accounting for tastes (g) ... some people are perfectly happy with vanilla icecream or a VW; others want Rocky Road or a Corvette. Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

To clarify, the basic Legacy program is free and is a good solid program, but does not have all the features that the paid Legacy Deluxe version has. When a software program comes in more than one "flavor" and one want to use the free version, it is good to research the differences to be sure you understand the limitations. The free versions work for a lot of people, and are also great for testing even if you think you might want to upgrade to the paid version later. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re PAF2wiz > marg wrote: > >> Good morning. >> >> I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to >> was >> sent the following >> >> "Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in >> various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll >> out the new version of FamilySearch. " >> >> So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht >> does >> that mean? >> > > _Eventually_ PAF will die because the operating system after > Vista won't run it. Until then, don't worry about > it...unless you want to start looking at alternatives so > you'll know which one to move to 4, 5 years down-stream. > > AncestralQuest is the windows version of PAF's big brother. > LegacyFamily Tree is free. Which of the dozen or so > PC-based programs out there you'd prefer is kinda like which > which Ice cream or car is best -- no accounting for tastes > (g) ... some people are perfectly happy with vanilla > icecream or a VW; others want Rocky Road or a Corvette. > > Cheryl > > -- > There should be no attachments on this message, unless I > specifically mentioned them above. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg: The Church is providing a way for commercial vendors to let you 'tie' your PAF data to the new FamilySearch. Ancestral Quest will let you keep using PAF as long as you want -- at least for several years -- and if you also want to connect your PAF data to new FamilySearch, AQ can act as the bridge between PAF and NFS. If you really like PAF, no reason to not continue using it. Gaylon marg wrote: > Good morning. > > I ahve been using PAF for ever and really like it. the list I belong to was > sent the following > > "Whoah there! Be careful about PAF. Judging by what I've been reading in > various blogs, the LDS will let PAF die a natural death once they roll > out the new version of FamilySearch. " > > So I am wondering what is to happen to my very relaible PAF. And waht does > that mean? > > Would be grateful for advice. > > > Marg > > Port Stephens NSW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaylon Findlay" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Re PAF2wiz > > > >> Cheryl: >> >> I haven't tried this, but I think you could. The problem with this >> approach is that you'd lose all the nice formatting, and the text would >> contain the information, but not be very pretty. >> >> If you're primarily working with the two narrative reports -- the >> Ahnentafel and Modified Register, there are better ways to do this >> (described below.) For other reports you might include such as fan >> charts, descendant charts, pedigree charts, family group sheets, etc., >> this text format would not be presentable in a published book. >> >> If you're primarily using the Ahnentafel and Modified Book reports in >> your family book, don't even use the 'Publish a Family Book' feature. >> Just create these reports to RTF or WordPerfect format, then use Word or >> WordPerfect to combine the various smaller reports into a single larger >> report, along with any other documents, and finally generate the index >> -- when you generate these two reports from PAFWiz to an RTF or >> WordPerfect file, it puts the index entries into the document, so this >> should be an easy task. >> >> Gaylon >> >> >> singhals wrote: >> >>> Gaylon Findlay wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Mareen: >>>> >>>> If you want an RTF file, like you'd get in PAF, you use the method Bill >>>> outlines. >>>> >>>> The "Publish a Family Book" allows you to combine several reports all >>>> into one large report with a master table of contents and master index. >>>> This option does not have the capability of generating to an RTF file -- >>>> you can either print it directly to your printer or to a PDF file. >>>> >>>> Gaylon >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill Buchanan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Gaylon, >>> >>> couldn't you install a generic text printer and select that >>> as the default? And then once you've got the text file, you >>> can do whatever you want with it by way of fonts, >>> insertions, etc etc. You'd probably have to remark all the >>> index entries, and that might not be worth minor tweaks in >>> the layout/presentation. >>> >>> Also, seems to me I've heard about a freeware/shareware >>> program that lets you edit pdf files -- will PAFWhiz let >>> you install that one? >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >