At the risk of exposing an unfortnate lack of knowledge on my part (g) -- did you check the sources showing in the edit-marriage screen? Cheryl Ken Guilette wrote: > I am in the process of cleaning up a cousin's file prior to importing it > into my database. Specifically, I'm putting his Sources in a form that > matches my Sources > > When I Print the List of "Citations Referencing a Source" I occassionally > get citations listed which do NOT exist when I go to the individual and > check the sources. Most commonly the nonexistent items are under MARRIAGES. > > Using PAF 5.2.18.0 > > Regards > > Ken Guilette > South Barrington, IL USA -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Have you tried check and repair? Bill > I am in the process of cleaning up a cousin's file prior to importing it > into my database. Specifically, I'm putting his Sources in a form that > matches my Sources > > When I Print the List of "Citations Referencing a Source" I occassionally > get citations listed which do NOT exist when I go to the individual and > check the sources. Most commonly the nonexistent items are under MARRIAGES. > > Using PAF 5.2.18.0 > > Regards > > Ken Guilette

I am in the process of cleaning up a cousin's file prior to importing it into my database. Specifically, I'm putting his Sources in a form that matches my Sources When I Print the List of "Citations Referencing a Source" I occassionally get citations listed which do NOT exist when I go to the individual and check the sources. Most commonly the nonexistent items are under MARRIAGES. Using PAF 5.2.18.0 Regards Ken Guilette South Barrington, IL USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Changing printers? > On my desktop computer (running XP) I am able to change my printer to > Adobe PDF in PAF. I have not been able to locate the button on my laptop. > I double checked the help file, which indicates: > Reports and Charts > Page Setup > Printer > etc. > > The button for 'Printer' is not on that drop down screen on the laptop. I > have PAF 5.2.18.0, and I am using Vista on the laptop. The button is there > on the desktop machine. Is this a Vista problem? Can it be solved? > > Ellen > State College, PA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually only takes about 5 minutes Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Probert" <[email protected]> To: "Larry" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Copying PAF to a laptop Thank you Larry. Seems that there isn't an easier way than to manually copy everything - I really was hoping that there was a quicker way :-( Rosemary Larry wrote: > Hi Rosemary, > > What we did, to do what you want to do is this: > > Install PAF on the laptop and open the preferences window so they are > visible on the screen. Have the laptop beside your desktop machine. > > Open the preferences window on your desktop machine. > > Visually read them from the desktop machine and enter the exact same > info into the laptop's PAF. > > Thereafter, whenever you open PAF on the laptop, it will have the same > preferences. > > You can also install the PAF program on a flash drive and just take > the > flash drive with you. > > Cheers, > > Larry > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: "Rosemary Probert" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Copying PAF to a laptop > > > I just checked and indeed the information on folders and the other > preferences is located in > the preferences. I am not sure that anything other than the default is > used if you run off a > flash drive. It may be that there is an option to store the > preferences > in a file for the flash > drive type of application. I will try to look some more and see if > there > are some options. Bill > > On 3 May 2008 at 14:18, Rosemary Probert wrote: > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On my desktop computer (running XP) I am able to change my printer to Adobe PDF in PAF. I have not been able to locate the button on my laptop. I double checked the help file, which indicates: Reports and Charts Page Setup Printer etc. The button for 'Printer' is not on that drop down screen on the laptop. I have PAF 5.2.18.0, and I am using Vista on the laptop. The button is there on the desktop machine. Is this a Vista problem? Can it be solved? Ellen State College, PA

Sorry, but with Vista you need to change your default printer to the PDF writer before you start PAF if you want to generate PDF copies of reports. (unlike previous versions of Windows) Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [PAF-5] Changing printers? > On my desktop computer (running XP) I am able to change my printer to Adobe PDF in PAF. I have not been able to locate the button on my laptop. I double checked the help file, which indicates: > Reports and Charts > Page Setup > Printer > etc. > > The button for 'Printer' is not on that drop down screen on the laptop. I have PAF 5.2.18.0, and I am using Vista on the laptop. The button is there on the desktop machine. Is this a Vista problem? Can it be solved? > > Ellen > State College, PA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM > >

Thank you Larry. Seems that there isn't an easier way than to manually copy everything - I really was hoping that there was a quicker way :-( Rosemary Larry wrote: > Hi Rosemary, > > What we did, to do what you want to do is this: > > Install PAF on the laptop and open the preferences window so they are > visible on the screen. Have the laptop beside your desktop machine. > > Open the preferences window on your desktop machine. > > Visually read them from the desktop machine and enter the exact same > info into the laptop's PAF. > > Thereafter, whenever you open PAF on the laptop, it will have the same > preferences. > > You can also install the PAF program on a flash drive and just take the > flash drive with you. > > Cheers, > > Larry > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: "Rosemary Probert" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Copying PAF to a laptop > > > I just checked and indeed the information on folders and the other > preferences is located in > the preferences. I am not sure that anything other than the default is > used if you run off a > flash drive. It may be that there is an option to store the preferences > in a file for the flash > drive type of application. I will try to look some more and see if there > are some options. Bill > > On 3 May 2008 at 14:18, Rosemary Probert wrote: > >

Hi Rosemary, What we did, to do what you want to do is this: Install PAF on the laptop and open the preferences window so they are visible on the screen. Have the laptop beside your desktop machine. Open the preferences window on your desktop machine. Visually read them from the desktop machine and enter the exact same info into the laptop's PAF. Thereafter, whenever you open PAF on the laptop, it will have the same preferences. You can also install the PAF program on a flash drive and just take the flash drive with you. Cheers, Larry Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Rosemary Probert" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] Copying PAF to a laptop I just checked and indeed the information on folders and the other preferences is located in the preferences. I am not sure that anything other than the default is used if you run off a flash drive. It may be that there is an option to store the preferences in a file for the flash drive type of application. I will try to look some more and see if there are some options. Bill On 3 May 2008 at 14:18, Rosemary Probert wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to be able to use PAF on my laptop when I go away. > I can transfer the data OK, but how do I copy the actual program so > that > all my preferences are the same on my PC and my laptop? > > I've had a look through the archives and found some correspondence > last > December about using PAF on a Flash Drive. This was from Bill > Buchanan: > ........ > > Can anyone help me sort this out? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary -- Dr. William A. Davis, Director of VT Antenna Group (Wireless & VT) The Bradley Dept of Elec & Comp Engr, Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061-0111 [(540)231-6307, 231-3362FAX] http://antenna.ece.vt.edu ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, I can't put thoughts into my own e-mails correctly any more. Anyway, the preferences for PAF5 are stored in the registry. Thus you may not be able to take advantage of personal preferences when you are using PAF from a flash drive. Bill

I just checked and indeed the information on folders and the other preferences is located in the preferences. I am not sure that anything other than the default is used if you run off a flash drive. It may be that there is an option to store the preferences in a file for the flash drive type of application. I will try to look some more and see if there are some options. Bill On 3 May 2008 at 14:18, Rosemary Probert wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to be able to use PAF on my laptop when I go away. > I can transfer the data OK, but how do I copy the actual program so that > all my preferences are the same on my PC and my laptop? > > I've had a look through the archives and found some correspondence last > December about using PAF on a Flash Drive. This was from Bill Buchanan: > ........ > > Can anyone help me sort this out? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary -- Dr. William A. Davis, Director of VT Antenna Group (Wireless & VT) The Bradley Dept of Elec & Comp Engr, Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061-0111 [(540)231-6307, 231-3362FAX] http://antenna.ece.vt.edu

Hi, I would like to be able to use PAF on my laptop when I go away. I can transfer the data OK, but how do I copy the actual program so that all my preferences are the same on my PC and my laptop? I've had a look through the archives and found some correspondence last December about using PAF on a Flash Drive. This was from Bill Buchanan: > > To put an installed copy of PAF on a flash drive: > > 1. open MyComputer (This is usually done from the Windows Start menu > or a > desktop icon), > > 2. open the My Programs folder > > 3. open the FamilySearch folder > > 4. copy the PAF5 folder (don't open it and don't move it) to the flash > drive. > > (If it is a U3 flash drive, copy the PAF5 folder to the highest > drive letter > on the flash drive.) > > The process takes maybe 5 minutes. I'm not sure whether I did this right because it only took a few seconds, but it has got 46 files in it, so I think I'm OK so far. > To run PAF from the flash drive, open the PAF5 folder on the flash > drive and > open the file pstart.exe or paf5.exe (Both seem to work. I am not sure > what > the difference is, but the shortcut installed by PAF points to > pstart.exe.) > You can, of course create a shortcut on the flash drive to either of these > files. I did this and my PAF file opened, but without any of my preferences. Can anyone help me sort this out? Thank you, Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You will probably have to redo the preferences since you are on a different drive. I am not sure they will even be kept since I think they are stored in the registry. The folder names will also have to fixed unless you entered them as relative somehow. I am sure others will confirm that. Also, you may need to copy the data files separately, unless you keep them in the PAF folder. Bill > Hi, > > I would like to be able to use PAF on my laptop when I go away. > I can transfer the data OK, but how do I copy the actual program so that > all my preferences are the same on my PC and my laptop? > > I've had a look through the archives and found some correspondence last > December about using PAF on a Flash Drive. This was from Bill Buchanan: > > > > To put an installed copy of PAF on a flash drive: > > > 1. open MyComputer (This is usually done from the Windows Start menu > > or a > > desktop icon), > > > 2. open the My Programs folder > > > 3. open the FamilySearch folder > > > 4. copy the PAF5 folder (don't open it and don't move it) to the flash > > drive. > > > (If it is a U3 flash drive, copy the PAF5 folder to the highest > > drive letter > > on the flash drive.) > > > The process takes maybe 5 minutes. > > I'm not sure whether I did this right because it only took a few > seconds, but it has got 46 files in it, so I think I'm OK so far. > > > To run PAF from the flash drive, open the PAF5 folder on the flash > > drive and > > open the file pstart.exe or paf5.exe (Both seem to work. I am not sure > > what > > the difference is, but the shortcut installed by PAF points to > > pstart.exe.) > > You can, of course create a shortcut on the flash drive to either of these > > files. > > I did this and my PAF file opened, but without any of my preferences. > > Can anyone help me sort this out? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary >

Viv, This doesn't sound to me to be a Vista issue. The File you are trying to put in PAF5 is a PAF4 Database correct? Or is it a PAF4 GEDCOM file? My understanding is... if it's GEDCOM, you do an "Import"... if it's a PAF database you do an "Open". (Assuming that PAF 5 can open and convert a PAF 4 database) Also, if it IS a PAF4 database, then copy it to your hard drive first, then you'll also likely have to set the "Read Only" attribute OFF. (When you put stuff to CD, it marks the files as Read Only) You can do that by right mouse on the file once you have it copied to your hard drive, select "properties", then turn off the "Read-only" attribute at the bottom of the properties screen. Then do the "open" in PAF. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lila Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? I read the previous replies. The tech language boggled me--and I have no experience with Vista. I see an easy work-around, assuming that both computers can access the Internet. Create a GedCom from the PAF-4 in the old machine. Include notes, confidential notes, absolutely everything. Upload it to Rootsweb's World Connect. On the options page, display only what you really want to display; notes are often not displayed, you choose. The living are not displayed. After it is established at Rootsweb (about 36 hours) download it into a new PAF-5 database in your machine that runs Vista. It only takes your username and password to accomplish this. I just downloaded and installed a file because I had inadvertently deleted the notes from one person--and I'll delete it after I paste her notes back in. If you really don't want to display anything at WorldConnect, there's a place on the page to "remove GedCom". If you leave your data there, you'll receive E-mails from cousins you never knew you had! Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivien Callaghan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? > Hi > Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. > What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows > 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). > Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message > "specified path does not exist". > I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do > have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to > XP before transfer to Vista. > In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to > transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? > Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to > read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. > > Regards > Viv Callaghan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my opinion, waiting for an upload and a download to Rootsweb is way more complex and time consuming than taking the CD she already has and simply putting it in the drive on the Vista computer. At that point it is only a mater of doing the right thing depending on what kind of file she has. 1. If a GEDCOM, create a new file in PAF 5 and *import* the GEDCOM. The same File_Import procedure will have to happen to rootsweb downloads, but using the CD would be without the wait. 2. If it is a PAF 4 file (extension .paf) open it in PAF 5 by clicking File_Open. It will get converted to the PAF 5 format. Select a new name and make sure you choose a location (other than the CD drive) to save it that you will remember. 3. If it is a PAF 4 backup (file extension .bak) you would click File_Restore and choose PAF3/4 in the file type box Select the file and say yes to any warnings. For all options, it *probably* will not matter that the original file would be read-only, since it will be converted to a different file anyway. But if there are any errors, just follow Kevin's instructions to right-click and select properties, then remove the check mark on the read only box. Gary Templeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lila" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? >I read the previous replies. The tech language boggled me--and I have no > experience with Vista. > > I see an easy work-around, assuming that both computers can access the > Internet. > > Create a GedCom from the PAF-4 in the old machine. Include notes, > confidential notes, absolutely everything. > > Upload it to Rootsweb's World Connect. > > On the options page, display only what you really want to display; notes > are > often not displayed, you choose. The living are not displayed. > > After it is established at Rootsweb (about 36 hours) download it into a > new > PAF-5 database in your machine that runs Vista. > > It only takes your username and password to accomplish this. I just > downloaded and installed a file because I had inadvertently deleted the > notes from one person--and I'll delete it after I paste her notes back in. > > If you really don't want to display anything at WorldConnect, there's a > place on the page to "remove GedCom". If you leave your data there, you'll > receive E-mails from cousins you never knew you had! > > Lila > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vivien Callaghan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:17 AM > Subject: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? > > >> Hi >> Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. >> What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows >> 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). >> Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message >> "specified path does not exist". >> I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do >> have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to >> XP before transfer to Vista. >> In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to >> transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? >> Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to >> read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. >> >> Regards >> Viv Callaghan >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I read the previous replies. The tech language boggled me--and I have no experience with Vista. I see an easy work-around, assuming that both computers can access the Internet. Create a GedCom from the PAF-4 in the old machine. Include notes, confidential notes, absolutely everything. Upload it to Rootsweb's World Connect. On the options page, display only what you really want to display; notes are often not displayed, you choose. The living are not displayed. After it is established at Rootsweb (about 36 hours) download it into a new PAF-5 database in your machine that runs Vista. It only takes your username and password to accomplish this. I just downloaded and installed a file because I had inadvertently deleted the notes from one person--and I'll delete it after I paste her notes back in. If you really don't want to display anything at WorldConnect, there's a place on the page to "remove GedCom". If you leave your data there, you'll receive E-mails from cousins you never knew you had! Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivien Callaghan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? > Hi > Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. > What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows > 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). > Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message > "specified path does not exist". > I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do > have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to > XP before transfer to Vista. > In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to > transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? > Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to > read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. > > Regards > Viv Callaghan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message "specified path does not exist". I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to XP before transfer to Vista. In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. Regards Viv Callaghan

I would copy the file from the CD to the hard drive, to any convenient location such as MyDocuments. (The file should NOT be copied to Vista's root directory folder.) Then I would right-click on the file's icon and select Properties > remove the check mark from the Read-Only attribute (placed there by Windows when the file was saved on the CD) > Apply > OK Then I would open the file in PAF5 and follow the prompts to convert it from PAF 4 to PAF 5 format. Bill Buchanan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivien Callaghan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: [PAF-5] PAF4Windows98 to PAF5Vista? > Hi > Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. > What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows > 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). > Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message > "specified path does not exist". > I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do > have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to > XP before transfer to Vista. > In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to > transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? > Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to > read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. > > Regards > Viv Callaghan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1383 - Release Date: 4/17/2008 9:00 AM > >

A questions is appropriate that you did not comment on: 1. In Windows Explorer, can you see anything on the CD from VISTA (maybe from 98 also)? 2. Assuming yes, open PAF5 and then go to FILE>Open and select the PAF file on the CD. PAF5 will ask you some questions about the conversion and then proceed to complete it. I do not remember if it asks where you want the conversion placed, if it does just provide the folder you want to use on the VISTA harddrive. I strongly recommend you do not put it in the PAF5 program folder. You may want to make a subfolder labeled DATA. (Subfolders are good for all of the extra files so that they do not get mixed with the program. You can set the folders under TOOLS>PREFERENCES>Folders. In fact, I would set the folders before I do the opening above.) If you are not asked for a location, either copy the PAF4 file to the data folder and open that one or save to your data folder (FILE>SAVE). You can not import the file because it is not a GEDCOM. PAF5 can read PAF4 files, but converts them in the process. Bill > Hi > Hoping this knowledge bank can solve my problem. > What I've done is copied PAF 4 file to CD-R which was running on Windows > 98. Downloaded PAF 5 onto Vista (Adobe reader reads Users Guide OK). > Now I can't seem to import file from Drive E without following message > "specified path does not exist". > I have kept the old computer just to safeguard years of work and I do > have access at my husbands office to Windows XP if I have to transfer to > XP before transfer to Vista. > In short can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to > transfer myWindows98 PAF4 file into the new Vista with PAF 5 ?? > Apologies to all about another Vista question, but I have tried to > read/comprehend previous Vista postings to solve this with no success. > > Regards > Viv Callaghan

I don't think I've seen an answer to this question, so let me give it a try. I believe that when you create your new file for your cousin's line, that the new database will not start out with any sources. As you research and add information, then the source list will accumulate the sources you enter. If you export some records from your old file to a GEDCOM file, then create this new database from the GEDCOM file, then sources related to the records you export will be created in this new file. Gaylon [email protected] wrote: > I want to create a new file with my cousin as the home person. Her maternal > side will be the same as mine and I want to work on her paternal line. I > set her in the home person spot and then saved the file with a new name, that > of her father's family. Any new sources I use for that search will be > included in the list of sources from my original file. Correct? Is there a way to > have a new source list for the new file? > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >