This is all I could find. Unfortunately, I don't have Soundex on my census search tool, and this is a name that lends itself to all sorts of spellings - and translations! 1860 census, Franklin Twp., Erie Co., PA: Parmerter, Merritt, 29, b NY, farmer Lydia, 26, b PA Jerome, 3, b PA --- Largo3377@aol.com wrote: > My Parmerter line lived in various places just > south and west of Erie since > 1840. Names are Jonathan Parmenter in > 1840/1850. He "disappeared" after that > but oldest son Merritt Parmenter was still > there in 1880. My grandfather George > Washington Parmertor and my aunt Leona > Parmerter and Nina Parmerter also lived > somewhere there in Erie? but I cannot find > anything in the census. > Any information on where these people lived or > are buried would be very > helpful __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

Hi List, My Parmerter line lived in various places just south and west of Erie since 1840. Names are Jonathan Parmenter in 1840/1850. He "disappeared" after that but oldest son Merritt Parmenter was still there in 1880. My grandfather George Washington Parmertor and my aunt Leona Parmerter and Nina Parmerter also lived somewhere there in Erie? but I cannot find anything in the census. Any information on where these people lived or are buried would be very helpful Bob Parmerter Largo, Florida

Hello Everyone: Those of you who are working on your lines back to your 1600s American Ancestors will find the1600s Ancestors Data Base to be of great help. My recent postings to the Data Base has taken it to over 26,500 Ancestors who have descendants living today. I have also added several National Societies who have proven many of these Ancestors. Also at this time a few new respected Reference works that contain thousands of sources including some of the early colonists who have Royal Blood lines. All the entries are coded to indicate to which reference work or which National Society has at least one of their proven lines. Several of the National Societies have over 20 different lines from a single Ancestor. When you enter the 1600s Ancestor Data Base be sure to look at the top of each data page for the link that takes you to the "Data Base Information Page" Here you will find the codes and references listed and how to use them. This is must reading to understand the Data Base. We are constantly updating the Data Base with additional Ancestors added as time permits. You will find the 1600s Ancestor Data Base at: http://www.firstfamilies.org/db/ Everyone has FREE access to all our web site and the reports contained there. Enjoy and Happy Hunting Ryan Jackson Data Base Manager America's First Families

Saw this while looking for erie co books on ebay and thought it might help someone - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3525498677&rd=1 Union City High School, Union City, Erie County, PA ~ Anvil yearbook for 1931 Large photo of John C. Jenkins, supervising principal. Individual photos of the faculty: Huntley, Boag, Durbin, Anderson, Martin, Morton, Porter, Mowery, Rouse, Smiley, Fuller, Still. Small individual photos of the senior class with a brief list of their accomplishments: Lockwood, Sexton, King, Smith, Baumbach, Baldwin, Anderson, Andeson, Baldwin, Bellinger, Bradley (very small photo), Brown, Carbaugh, Chapman, Campbell, Brakeman, Dewey, Forbes, Gorka, Gregor, France, Filegar, Jones, Lesik, Lord, Lesnick, Kerr, Henry, Phelps, Peard, Lyons, Lyons, Pennell, Pier, Shields, Wandell, Shreve, Smith, Siverling, Reynolds, Wasson, Weed, Watson. Class will, class prophecy and senior activities. Group photo of the junior class and a class roll: Ashton, Bradford, Bauer, Barber, Barnett, Boarts, Campbell, Chapin, Chaffee, Comstock, Carlburg, Davids, Donaldson, Flemming, Fitzgerald, Filegar, Gale, Gahring, Gorka, Glenn, Goodwin, Hanlin, Inman, Johnson, Kennedy, Keefer, Kunkle, Le Fevre [LeFevre], Lillibridge, Lockwood, Laird, McGill, Morse, Montague, Moore, Maryott, Nelson, Parker, Prather, Post, Pier, Reynolds, Root, Shreve, Smedley, See, Smith, Smiley, Shepard, Stewart, Sturdevant, Yochim, Ward, Wise, Toner... and handwritten in K. Sweeny. Group photo of the sophomore class and a class roll: Alcorn, Allen, Baker, Barber, Batcheler, Behan, Bisbee, Bishop, Blakely, Chaffee, Chesney, Chesley, Clark, Cook, Conover, Cross, Crocker, Dewey, Dyne, Earll, Emerson, Eaton, Fogle, Fisk, Gates, Gahring, Glancy, Gibbons, Glenn, Greisaw, Griffith, Hadlock, Henry, Larson, Lilley, Magee, Mallick, Marlowe, Miller, Mineo, Parker, Perkins, Pier, Pituch, Proper, Roach, Shreve, Seymour, Showman, Smith, Stevenson, Steves, Sturdevant, Tanner, Thomas, Toner, Watson, Wellmon, Willey, Wise, Wolf, Wontenay, Wright. Group photo of the freshman class and a class roll: Allen, Ashton, Babcock, Behan, Bisbee, Bishop, Blakeslee, Barnes, Beemer, Bennett, Burns, Baldwin, Canfield, Chaffee, Clemmons, Coe, Connell, Cooper, Docko, Davis, Dubrosky, Estes, Everett, Fields, Fisk, Fuller, Gillett, Gocal, Golenlowski, Greishaw, Henry, Hinkson, Hites, Israelson, Jones, Johnson, Kanger, Kowalski, Kucjay, King, Kirik, Kunkel, Loomis, LeFevre, Laughery, McInerney, Mulkie, Mark, Moore, Murphy, Manross, Messenger, Martin, Montague, Nelson, Parker, Papsun, Peterson, Pratt, Proper, Reynolds, Root, Robinson, Rundell, Sanden, Sargent, Sell, Shreve, Stewart, Still, Stone, Strong, Sturdevant, Showers, Samkowski, Toner, Volgstadt, VanEpps [Van Epps], Willey, Ward, Wood, Wright, Whitaker, Young. One page article on the Chair Industry in Union City. Mentions: O.L. Abbey, Edward Graser, Charles M. Wheeler, Union City Chair Factory, George A. Glazier, Lou Heineman, Ellen Cheney, fire of July 24, 1882, Mrs. C. M. Wheeler, H. B. Randall, J. C. Caflish, Keystone Chair Company, O. M. Shreve, William J. Sloan, Ray P. Tipton, Standard Chair Company, B.F. Camp, H. L. Church, Ray K. Fenno, Charles Tilden, fire of 1906, L. S. Clough, Paul D. Mullin, Orval C. Hatch, C. L. Clough, E. D. Clough, Shreve Chair Company, L. D. Shreve, E. A. Shreve, W. E. Emerson, fire of March 8, 1913. (no photos). Additionally, advertisements for Union City Chair Company and Standard Chair Co (with a drawing of the business) appear in the back of the yearbook. Group photos of The Boys and Girls Glee Clubs, Orchestra, Hi-Y, Junior Hi-Y, Le Cercle Francais, Commercial Club, Anvil Staff, R-Y Club. Group photo of the part of football team: Boys Who Received U's for Football in 1930-31: Comstock, Peard, Weed, Lyons, Kennedy, Gahring, Gates, Chesley, Shreve, Storng, Siverling, Proper. Group photos of the girls basketball team, boys basketball team, the cast members in two plays. Individual photo of Albert Bauer, clarinet player who performed in the Eastern National High School Orchestra at the Music Supervisors Conference in Syracuse, NY. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

Is there a place that I can write to get copies of a few names from a few years of Erie, PA directory - 1910-1915 and 1920-1925 for a reasonable price? Thanks, Katie

One of the sessions at the NGS conference at the David Lawrence Convention Center in Pittsburgh to be held May 28-31 is quite popular but has a room limit, so they will add a repeat session. This is a very unique opportunity to get the information directly from the author of the Abstracting chapter in "Professional Genealogy: A Manual for Researchers, Writers, Editors, Lecturers, and Librarians." Its popularity may also stem from the fact that it is being underwritten by the BCG Education Fund which means there is no additional charge for the workshop as there are with others. Below is an announcement from the President of the sponsoring organization, the Board for Certification of Genealogists. -- Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS Participating Societies Chairperson for NGS 2003 Interest in the “Abstracting Records for Accuracy and Success” Workshop sponsored by the BCG Education Fund has been overwhelming. As of last week, almost 100 conference registrants indicated an interest in attending the session. The lecture room, though, will only hold 50, since it is set up in a classroom style to allow for the hands-on work. Not wanting to disappoint those interested in this important research skill, Mary McCampbell Bell, CLS, CGL, has agreed to repeat the workshop. The scheduled session will still be held on Friday morning from 8 am to noon. The additional session is set for Saturday at the same time. As a courtesy to both the instructor and other attendees, everyone should plan on devoting the entire morning to this session. Room assignments will be included in the conference brochure that is part of registration materials. For other last minute details and information, be sure to check at the BCG Booth, #306, in the Exhibit Hall. To those of you who know individuals not on this list with an interest in the Workshop, please pass along this information to them. Knowing about the additional session may help them plan their conference time in advance. And to all of you, the trustees of the BCG Education Fund hope to see you during the conference. Kay Haviland Freilich, CG, CGL Trustee, Board for Certification of Genealogists Education Fund President, Board for Certification of Genealogists CG, CGRS and CGL are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by those who have passed BCG's rigorous examination process. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Barb's email address is Ropetracer@prodigy.net Linda --- Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu> wrote: > Sorry to use the list, but if Barb Seyler of Atlanta is still on this > list, could you contact me? > > Thanks. > > Kathleen Craine > Chicago > K-Craine@neiu.edu > > > ==== PAERIE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the PA-Erie Mailing List > To leave PAERIE-L, send mail to PAERIE-L-request@rootsweb.com with > the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave > PAERIE-D, do the same thing with PAERIE-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Periodically, messages are received that various viruses are floating > around the newslists. While no viruses have yet been transmitted via > this board, all readers are strongly encouraged to keep their virus > checkers up to date in order to ensure that your computer will not be > impacted should this occur. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

PERMISSION TO CROSSPOST GRANTED *********************************************************************** MONDAY, MAY 19, 7 PM, Northland Public Library, 300 Cumberland Rd, Pittsburgh will have a free program "Dancing Around the Neighborhood with the Census Taker: Why did he always miss my ancestor?" presented by Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS(sm). The Federal Census is a wonderful and basic tool for genealogists, but finding the ancestor can be a challenge. This lecture shows what type of information is on each census and gives the tools for gaining access to the information. Internet sources and resources as well as the most recently available 1930 census will be discussed. MONDAY, MAY 19: LAST DAY for pre-registration for the National Genealogical Society 100th anniversary conference in Pittsburgh May 28-31, 2003. By registering on-line you will save $10 and by pre-registering you will save $35 from the walk-in price, for a $45 total savings. By becoming an NGS member for $50 you will save $25 on conference registration *and* get 6 bi-monthly copies of the NGS Newsmagazine with news and articles about aspects of genealogy including computers, and 4 quarterly journals, one of the most respected Quarterlies in genealogy. If two people in the same household become members ($50 first membership, $10 for the additional person), each person receives a $25 discount on the 4-day conference registration. Coupled with the large (about 600 pages) syllabus of every lecture's handout, the souvenier zippered tote bag, the special zippered pouch name tag holder, your conference registration is quite a bargain!! You can see the conference program with keynote speaker Christopher Lane (of Antiques Roadshow), and all your favorite genealogy book authors at www.eshow2000.com/ngs. To print out a copy of the program brochure, go to "Register Now" and print out the downloadable PDF file (20 pages). Or you can see the program on-line under the Schedule-at-a-Glance link under Conference Program. Stella Colwell from the British National Archives in London will be here and making several presentations. Where else can you hear how to research in Britain right from the source? Many other outstanding lectures (7 per hour!) will be given over the 4 days. You are bound to find more than one of interest in each timeslot. Most (but not all) lectures are taped and the audiotapes are available for $8.50 from Repeat Performances (www.audiotapes.com) They are available usually one hour after the lecture is given from their booth outside the exhibit hall. With the syllabus in hand, it is *almost* like being there. The exhibit hall will have over 100 vendors of everything genealogical ... get a software demo from the person who wrote the program, or get a book signed by the author, rub elbows with the speakers and others, find that cousin by putting a note on the message board about your surnames of interest. This is a large conference (over 1500 attendees!) in a place that won't see the likes of this for a very, very long time. (Richmond, VA in 2007 is probably the next east coast NGS conference.) *********************************************************************** TUESDAY, MAY 20, 7 PM, North Hills Genealogists at Northland Library, 300 Cumberland Rd., Pittsburgh: Come in and pick up your brand new copy of the 496-page headstone reading and history book “Pioneer Cemeteries of Pine and Richland Townships, Allegheny County, PA” then sit down and relax at our regular meeting “Historic Congregations of Allegheny City,” presented by John Canning of the Allegheny City Society. Throughout its long history, Allegheny City (now Pittsburgh’s North Side) was home to a large number of religious communities. What city outside of Scotland could boast having three distinct Presbyterian seminaries within eight blocks! Native Americans, early settlers from eastern Pennsylvania, Europe, and the slave South contributed to the diverse religious composition of Allegheny City. Many of these congregations mothered new churches in northern Allegheny County as their families moved into the northern suburbs. In fact, the very church building of the Holy Trinity German Lutheran congregation in Allegheny’s Eleventh Ward is presently home to a Baptist Community in McCandless Township. This program will examine the history and role of Allegheny City’s congregations by looking at their origins in terms of ethnicity and doctrine, their growth and connections in the North Hills, and, in some cases, their demise. The meeting is free and open to the public. For information: email pioneerbook@juno.com or visit www.NorthHillsGenealogists.org Cemetery books may also be ordered and picked-up at Rossier’s Art Gallery, 9043 Perry Highway (Route 19, one block south of Northland Library) www.rossiersartgallery.com. *********************************************************************** THURSDAY, May 22, 2003 – 7:00 pm, Lawrenceville Historical Society Lecture– “Diversions of the Blue and the Gray” by Allison Caveglia Barash -- what Civil War Soldiers did during their spare time. *********************************************************************** SATURDAY, May 24, 2003, 10 a.m. to 3:15 p.m.: The Western Reserve Historical Society Genealogical Committee announces a second in a series of seminars to be held Saturday, May 24th at Western Reserve Historical Society, 10825 East Boulevard, conveniently located at University Circle in Cleveland OH. Historic speaker Jack Gieck, author of A Photo Album of Ohio's Canal Era, 1825-1912, will discuss The Canals. Historic speaker Chris Dawson, MA, Curator Urban & Industry History, WRHS, will discuss The Railroads (includes a sneak peek at the New York Central Photo Collection). Genealogical speaker Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS will cover "Migration Trails out of Pennsylvania into the Buckeye State" and "The Research Cycle - Don't Pedal Backwards" Registration 9:30 a.m., seminar 10 a.m. - 3:15 p.m. Please bring a brown bag lunch. Cost is $25 per seminar (students $15). Make check payable to WRHS Genealogical Committee and mail to: WRHS Seminars, P. O. Box 1832, Mentor OH 44061-1832. For further information contact, Chairman, Brent Morgan at 216-382-7297 or Registrar, Nancy Leinweber at 440-257-9245. *********************************************************************** WEDNESDAY through SATURDAY, MAY 28-31, 2003 at the new David Lawrence Convention Center, the National Genealogical Society Conference in Pittsburgh. See above for Monday May 19 for description of the event. www.eshow2000.com/ngs The North Hills Genealogists new "Pioneer Cemeteries of Pine and Richland Townships" book will be available for a special conference price at the booth of Mechling Bookbindery in the Exhibit hall of the David Lawrence convention center. Also the "Pioneer Cemeteries of Hampton Township" will be available. Admission to the VENDOR areas is FREE for this event. If you wish, see the descriptive book flyer, including a sample surname listing, and other details at the web site www.NorthHillsGenealogists.org . *********************************************************************** TUESDAY, June 17, 7 PM, North Hills Genealogists at Northland Library, 300 Cumberland Rd., Pittsburgh: “Bake Slow and Sure: Heirloom Recipes of the National Road Era.” By Frank LaCava, Curator of the Fort Pitt Blockhouse and former president of the Fayette County Historical Society. -- sketches, pictures and short stories to provide an historical and genealogical look at her family, friends and famous visitors to Uniontown (PA) from the 1820s through the 1870s. Free and open to the public. For more information: pioneerbook@juno.com or www.NorthHillsGenealogists.org *********************************************************************** WEDNESDAY, MAY 28, 2003, 6 p.m. in the Westin Convention Center Hotel, Butler West, Pittsburgh, PA: Association of Professional Genealogists, Great Lakes Chapter (encompassing those who live in PA, OH, MI, IN) Meeting to network with other professionals and to plan future events. For more information: GenealogyTalk@aol.com *********************************************************************** MONDAY through FRIDAY, JUNE 23 to 27, Summer Camp for Genealogists "200 Years of Genealogy in 1 Week" sponsored by the Ohio Genealogical Society, 713 South Main Street, Mansfield, OH 44907-1644. Come to a series of how-to lectures given by knowledgeable people on the many different aspects and records that can be searched in order to learn more about your family. Census, Migration patterns, Military, German Research, Probate and other Court records, Immigration and Naturalization, Preservation, Cemeteries, Funeral Homes, Church records, Newspaper research, Computers, Land Plotting, Maps, Oral History, Vital records, Lineage Societies, Family History Centers, and that elusive Female ancestor will be discussed among other topics. For a full brochure and registration form please see www.OGS.org under the Events sidebar link or call OGS at (419) 756-7294. *********************************************************************** TUESDAY, July 15, 7 PM, North Hills Genealogists at Northland Library, 300 Cumberland Rd., Pittsburgh: Reed Powell will do a presentation on Computers and Genealogy. For more information: pioneerbook@juno.com or www.NorthHillsGenealogists.org *********************************************************************** THURSDAY, July 17, 2003 – 7:00 pm, Lawrenceville Historical Society Lecture– “Orphans and Inmates: Institutional Records in Allegheny County,” by Audrey Iacone of the Carnegie Library (Beechview branch).

Sorry to use the list, but if Barb Seyler of Atlanta is still on this list, could you contact me? Thanks. Kathleen Craine Chicago K-Craine@neiu.edu

Hi List, My family and I are planning a trip to Erie for the second week of June and I was wondering where would be the best places for research are. Of course I'm going to the court house as well as Erie Cemetery and St. Patrick's Church. I understand that there is a monument to the U.S.S. Wolverine on Presque Isle, I want to visit that as well. My ancestor served as Landsman on it during the Civil War when is was the U.S.S. Michigan. I had the ESGR do some research for me, specifically to obtain death certificates for two ancestors who died in Erie in 1879 and 1887. I was told in a letter sent by the ESGR with the other information that they had found for me that the death certificates would be sent by the office holding these records in about 2 to 4 weeks. It has now been almost 2 months does anyone know if there is a back log or something else? Parker

On Fri, 16 May 2003 17:20:17 EDT BobWambach@aol.com writes: <snipped> > espowell@juno.com (Elissa in Pittsburgh) wrote to state that I needed to find > a marriage record for Howard. That is very true, but easier said than done, > since I live some distance east of Rochester, NY, hundreds of miles from > Erie! If there is a way to search those records without traveling to Erie, I > would appreciate hearing about it. I am able to search for Richard Brown in > the New York State Birth/Marriage/Death Index, which is available at the main > library in Rochester, but I don't know if Pennsylvania has anything comparable. > Elissa, thank you and I hope you enjoy that National Genealogical Conference > May 28-31, 2003 being held in your city! > Best wishes to you all, > Bob Wambach > Ontario, Wayne County, NY Bob, You asked to hear if there was a way to view marriage records without travelling to Erie: If there is a LDS Family History Center near you (you can check at www.FamilySearch.org) then you can go there and order the microfilm that they did of the Erie County Marriages: Marriage license dockets, 1885-1950 ; index, 1885-1968 Authors Erie County (Pennsylvania). Clerk of the Orphans' Court (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of the original records from the Erie County Courthouse in Erie, Pennsylvania. Marriages are filed by date of application for license, not the date of marriage nor the date of filing, both of which occurred later. You can find the film numbers for the indexes and the dockets at www.FamilySearch.org in the card catalog under the locality of Erie (county) but you have to go to your local family history center (usually within a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints building) to do the ordering. So you see, you don't have to necessarily travel to the source to get source documents. The LDS center is the best way to travel across the country or across the ocean to view records. Just check their card catalog periodically. I have done my Scalise relative from Erie back to when grandpa came from Italy in 1901 through to abut 1725 through the LDS records. Now I am waiting for them to film northern Italy so I can do the same for Grandma. Yes, Bob I will greatly enjoy the 4-day National Genealogical Society conference here in Pittsburgh. It promises to be great fun and you never know when you will learn that key piece that makes the doors open to your entire genealogical past. And it is free to visit the vendor hall with over 100 vendors of genealogical software, books, CDs, etc. Visit www.eshow2000.com/ngs for more information on the conference and to see the vendors who are coming. -- Elissa in Pittsburgh ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Dear List Members, Thanks to the several (Erie, PA) List members who wrote and offered advice on locating surviving family members of Pvt. Howard I. Fisher. Unfortunately, no one from the Monroe County, NY List has written, but perhaps I will hear from someone in the near future. twigs@gcctv.com (twigs/Ella) wrote and suggested that I write for Howard's service record, as did Genie <genielists@yahoo.com>. Well, I did download the Form 180 from NARA and sent it out exactly a month ago, but have heard nothing from them since. However, at the time that I filled out the form, I didn't know Howard's service number, so that could be a problem. The other complication is that I'm not from Howard's immediate family (being a first cousin) and I'm not sure that they will send me any information for that reason. espowell@juno.com (Elissa in Pittsburgh) wrote to state that I needed to find a marriage record for Howard. That is very true, but easier said than done, since I live some distance east of Rochester, NY, hundreds of miles from Erie! If there is a way to search those records without traveling to Erie, I would appreciate hearing about it. I am able to search for Richard Brown in the New York State Birth/Marriage/Death Index, which is available at the main library in Rochester, but I don't know if Pennsylvania has anything comparable. Elissa, thank you and I hope you enjoy that National Genealogical Conference May 28-31, 2003 being held in your city! Genie <genielists@yahoo.com> (Ken) suggested that I look for a marriage of Howard and Elsie outside of Erie, assuming (perhaps) that I had not found such a marriage in Erie. But unfortunately, I never looked for a marriage in Erie, as time did not permit me to do so. Ken also suggested that I look for school records for any children of Howard and Elsie, but that would come after I ascertain that they in fact had children! Hope I haven't missed anyone! To all who wrote, my thanks and if I have to come back to Erie to continue my research, so be it! I was very impressed with your library and staff on the shore of Lake Erie. My wife and I had a very nice (two plus hour) visit there on our way to Chicago. By the way, if anyone wants to learn more about the S. S. Leopoldville, the ship on which Howard was a passenger and which was sunk by a Nazi submarine on Christmas Eve, 1944, just do a search of "Leopoldville" on Google and you will get a number of hits. Best wishes to you all, Bob Wambach Ontario, Wayne County, NY Researching: ECKRICH, DENHARD, ISSELHARD, REMMEL, ROMEIS, SCHLOSSER, SCHWAEGER (from Schifferstadt, Pfalz (formerly Bavaria)) FISHER, HASENAUER, MAIER, RING, SCHUCK, SEHM, SIMPSON, STREB, WAMBACH, YANTZ (from Monroe County, NY and Pruessberg/Michelau, Bavaria) MINITER, PURCELL (Ireland)

> Thanks Linda - I only wish I had access to the library there :-)) > > Actually I meant the LDS center here in Erie. Jan was kind enough to send > in the information also... > > Erie Pennsylvania > 1101 South Hill Road > Erie, Erie County, Pennsylvania, United States > Phone: 814-866-3611 > Hours: T 9am-12pm, 6pm-9pm; W 6pm-9pm; F By appt.; Sat 9am-3pm. > > I hope to make it there next week! Thanks again! > > Marian > > -----Original Message----- > From: LINDA GRAHAM [SMTP:lindag1947@msn.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:34 PM > To: Marian.Fromknecht@zurn.com > Subject: Re: [PAERIE] LDS > > If you mean the Salt Lake Family History Library, they are open Tuesday > thru > Saturday until 10pm, and Monday until 5pm. They are closed on Sunday. > They > are open at 7:30 am every morning. Hope this helps. Linda in Utah > > > >From: "Fromknecht, Marian" <Marian.Fromknecht@zurn.com> > >To: PAERIE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [PAERIE] LDS > >Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:15:35 -0400 > > > >It's been awhile (over a year) since I've been there.... anyone familiar > >with the LDS library hours???? > > > >I've been trying to call them, but keep getting an answering machine. I > >know > >they have early Saturday hours, but I really need the evening hours.... > > > >I have some film there that really needs combed through! > > > >Thanks to anyone that knows!! > > > >Marian > > > > > >==== PAERIE Mailing List ==== > >Welcome to the PA-Erie Mailing List > >To leave PAERIE-L, send mail to PAERIE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the > >single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave > PAERIE-D, > >do the same thing with PAERIE-D-request@rootsweb.com. > >Periodically, messages are received that various viruses are floating > >around the newslists. While no viruses have yet been transmitted via this > > >board, all readers are strongly encouraged to keep their virus checkers > up > >to date in order to ensure that your computer will not be impacted should > > >this occur. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

It's been awhile (over a year) since I've been there.... anyone familiar with the LDS library hours???? I've been trying to call them, but keep getting an answering machine. I know they have early Saturday hours, but I really need the evening hours.... I have some film there that really needs combed through! Thanks to anyone that knows!! Marian

To find the descendants, you need to find the marriages and births of children. Look for the marriage of Howard Fisher (if that is the name he used, and not an adopted one) in the Erie County Bureau of Marriages from 1930 (when he is 19 and you know he is in Erie) to 1944 when he died. Even maybe go back to 1928 to cover any early marriage. Likewise search for the marriage of Richard Brown who is about the same age. You will also have to search Rochester, NY up to modern time as he may have a remarriage in NY even if he did get married in Erie. What about city directories for Rochester? Follow him from year to year and see when he drops outs (if he does). Can't tell if that is a move or died, but gives a timeline. You may even come up with an obituary for Richard saying his marital and children status and where they are. Best wishes, Elissa in Pittsburgh Host city to the National Genealogical Conference May 28-31, 2003, www.eshow2000.com/ngs On Mon, 12 May 2003 22:52:24 EDT BobWambach@aol.com writes: > My goal is to locate any possible descendants of Howard Fisher > and/or Richard Brown. Any assistance in this endeavor will be very much > appreciated! > Thank you all for reading this, > Robert F. Wambach > Ontario, Wayne County, NY > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I received this message from someone at the Social Security Administration and was wondering if anyone is familiar with any of the names included in this message. If so, please direct your assistance to Adrienne.Croll@ssa.gov Thanks... Linda --- "Croll, Adrienne" <Adrienne.Croll@ssa.gov> wrote: > From: "Croll, Adrienne" <Adrienne.Croll@ssa.gov> > To: "'Linda Emerson'" <geniemamma@yahoo.com> > Subject: Unusual request > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:51:19 -0400 > > I found your information on the website for Union Township. I work > for the > Social Security Administration in Baltimore MD. We have had an > unusual case > sent to us. His alleged name is Roger George, he is 87 years old and > claims > to have been born in Union Township, PA and now lives in Tampa, FL. > His > parents were Michael George and Mary Jadusck or Mary Jaskola. > Sometimes he > says he was born in Oakland, PA and sometimes Union Township. > > His parents are deceased, he has no brothers or sisters. He said he > left > home at the age of 14 and joined the merchant marine, never married > and > never paid taxes. We think we have tried everything to find some > proof of > his identity or birth. We have checked for birth records, school > records, > census records, our Social Security records and hospital records. He > says > he was never arrested. > > The reason I am contacting you is to see if you know of any local > resources > that might be available in Union Township that we haven't tried yet. > He > currently is in a nursing home. Any help or information that you > might be > able to give me would be appreciated. I found out that there were a > lot of > George's in the area, but I couldn't connect Roger with any of them. > Thanks > for any information you could give me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

Dear List Members, I am looking for descendants (if they exist) of my first cousin, HOWARD I. FISHER, who died on Christmas Day, 1944, when the ship on which he was sailing from England to France was torpedoed by a Nazi submarine the previous evening (Christmas Eve). Howard was a U.S. Army private at the time and had been living prior to his army duty in Erie, PA. Details of the ship's sinking were apparently kept secret for many years, until a book was written about the event. Go to: www.historychannel.com/exhibits/leopoldville/states/pa.html to learn more about the tragedy. Here is what I know about Howard to date: 1911, Dec. 04 - Howard born to Isaac H. Fisher and Sylvia Elisabeth (Wambach) Fisher in Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY 1914 - Isaac (Howard's father) dies from unknown causes. Burial in Irondequoit, cemetery. 1917, March 30 - Sylvia marries Paul Sitterle 1923, Sept. 23 - Sylvia also dies, leaving Howard an orphan. She is buried next to Isaac in Irondequoit cemetery. 1930 Erie County, Erie City, PA Census - Howard is living with (Uncle) Homer STULL BROWN family at 925 East 25th Street. Also in the household were Homer's wife, Mary (Mae H.) and his adopted son, Richard, listed as 19 years of age. I believe Mary to be the former Mary Fisher VAN LARE and Richard to be her son, resulting from her marriage to Isaac Van Lare in Pittsford, Monroe County, NY on 6 Feb. 1905. It should be noted that Mary Fisher was born Maria VASSEUR on 27 April, 1886 in Holland. The information about Van Lare and Vasseur was furnished to me by other researchers. It is unknown how the name Vasseur came to be Fisher, but we suspect it happened when the Vasseurs immigrated to the U.S. 1943 Erie City Directory - Howard I. Fisher (Elsie) living at 507 East 5th Street and Howard is listed as being in the U. S. Army. 1944, Dec. 25 - Howard and numerous other soldiers drown in the sinking of the S. S. Leopoldville. His body was never recovered. 1956, March 29 - Homer Stull Brown dies at the Erie Veteran's Administration Hospital. He is listed as the father of Richard Brown of Rochester, NY, undoubtedly his adopted son, Richard. My goal is to locate any possible descendants of Howard Fisher and/or Richard Brown. Any assistance in this endeavor will be very much appreciated! Thank you all for reading this, Robert F. Wambach Ontario, Wayne County, NY

It would seem that you might want Howard's military personnel records which should be available through the National Personnel Records Center. Go to archives.gov and click your way to military records or go specifically, to http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_personnel_records/standard_form_180.html#sf You will have to fill out and submit a form SF-180 or write them a letter. These records are not online. --- BobWambach@aol.com wrote: > I am looking for descendants (if they exist) of > my first cousin, HOWARD I. > FISHER, who died on Christmas Day, 1944, when > the ship on which he was > sailing from England to France was torpedoed by > a Nazi submarine the previous > evening (Christmas Eve). Howard was a U.S. Army > private at the time and had > been living prior to his army duty in Erie, PA. > Details of the ship's sinking were apparently > kept secret for many years, > until a book was written about the event. > Here is what I know about Howard to date: > > 1911, Dec. 04 - Howard born to Isaac H. Fisher > and Sylvia Elisabeth (Wambach) > Fisher in Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY > > 1914 - Isaac (Howard's father) dies from > unknown causes. Burial in > Irondequoit, cemetery. > > 1917, March 30 - Sylvia marries Paul Sitterle > > 1923, Sept. 23 - Sylvia also dies, leaving > Howard an orphan. She is buried > next to Isaac in Irondequoit cemetery. > > 1930 Erie County, Erie City, PA Census - Howard > is living with (Uncle) Homer > STULL BROWN family at 925 East 25th Street. > Also in the household were > Homer's wife, Mary (Mae H.) and his adopted > son, Richard, listed as 19 years > of age. I believe Mary to be the former Mary > Fisher VAN LARE and Richard to > be her son, resulting from her marriage to > Isaac Van Lare in Pittsford, > Monroe County, NY on 6 Feb. 1905. It should be > noted that Mary Fisher was > born Maria VASSEUR on 27 April, 1886 in > Holland. The information about Van > Lare and Vasseur was furnished to me by other > researchers. It is unknown how > the name Vasseur came to be Fisher, but we > suspect it happened when the > Vasseurs immigrated to the U.S. > > 1943 Erie City Directory - Howard I. Fisher > (Elsie) living at 507 East 5th > Street and Howard is listed as being in the U. > S. Army. > > 1944, Dec. 25 - Howard and numerous other > soldiers drown in the sinking of > the S. S. Leopoldville. His body was never > recovered. > > 1956, March 29 - Homer Stull Brown dies at the > Erie Veteran's Administration > Hospital. He is listed as the father of Richard > Brown of Rochester, NY, > undoubtedly his adopted son, Richard. > > My goal is to locate any possible descendants > of Howard Fisher and/or Richard > Brown. Any assistance in this endeavor will be > very much appreciated! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

HI List: My ggf (JOHN FIELDS) died in NorthEast ,PA in 1895, (he was a resident of Ripley NY). Does anyone know if a death certificate would have been filed.......and if so how to obtain it?? Any advice appreciated! John Bellman Springville, NY

Hello, Marian, I would appreciate the info regarding these families... Becker, Demuling, Kreidinger,Runser, Schaaf, Trapp, and Wickles Thank you! What a wonderful gift you are giving! Nancy Schaaf _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail