Taking a break from Genealogy for a second...I thought some of you would get a kick out of this: http://www.geocities.com/copper6500/homedepot.html Mike Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero Check out the Erie County Genealogy page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~paerie

Hi Erie Friends! Hope this information is helpful not only to Cheryl, but others who are stuck in this type of situation. Social Security registrations were started in 1936. The Social Security Death Index was not established until 1962. If you do not have a Social Security number for someone, but suspect they did register for a number, you may write to: Freedom of Information Officer 4-H-8 Annex Bldg. 6401 Security Boulevard Baltimore, MD 21235 You must include full name, place of birth and date of birth. You should include proof of death, such as an obituary, newspaper article or the like if a death certificate is not readily available. Cost will be $16.50 whether or not information is found. Prepare for a 6-week wait. You may also want to go online to the National Archives Records Administration site at: http://www.nara.gov/regional/mprsf180.html and read what is available through St. Louis facility for WWI and WW II, as well as subsequent war-time resources. I have requested records from them for WWI and WWII and found them to be somewhat slow - but they do eventually respond and I've been happy with the information received. I believe they are now charging for this service, and perhaps that is detailed as well at the site. Lastly, I found information about a relative who also was killed in action in WW II at the Erie Historical Society. Imagine my surprise to even find a post card that was written by the man's father in their materials! You may find additional information as well by contacting them at: Erie County Historical Society 419 State Street Erie, PA 16501 (814) 454-1813 Good Luck! Barb

Do you have a copy of his death certificate? Sometimes it is listed on there. The value of a SSN is that you can then obtain a copy of the original SSN application which lists their place of birth and the names of their parents. Jan

Does anyone have access to a census index for 1920, Erie County? Ancestry.com has the PA 1920 census online, but it is browsable only which means if you don't know which district to look in for an ancestor, the search can take many weeks (depending on time available to search and download time). So far, I am only aware of an index at the Family History Center but I am unable to get to one. I am searching for the VIROSKO family, husband Michael, wife Mary and children include Veronica, Anna, Michael and possibly Donald. If anyone has access to the index and can tell me which district they are in I can look them up at ancestry. Thanks to anyone who can help. Diane

Depending on his age, he may not have had a SSN. SSNs were not required until the 1960s sometime. Do you have information on where he entered service from, what branch of service, how old, birth date, birth place, etc. If he entered service in Erie County, and died during the war, then the Veterans Affairs office in the courthouse may have a record of him. This won't give you a SSN (it will give the military service number which will probably be needed if you are trying to obtain records), but not sure why you want an SSN. Bill Klauk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark & Cheryl Pillar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: [PAERIE] Need Help > Hello List, > I am trying to locate the social security information on my Uncle Evan > Davies who was killed in Normandy, France in 1944. I have searched the > Social Security Index for his information but nothing comes up. Do any of > you have any suggestions on how I can find out his Social Security > information? > > Thanks > > Cheryl Jones Pillar > > > ==== PAERIE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the PA-Erie Mailing List > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

The Americab Battle Monuments Commission is online at http://www.usabmc.com/index.shtmlhttp://www.usabmc.com/index.shtml It has databases of some of our Military Personnel who were killed in battle and buried overseas. It also describes some of the overseas American Military Cemeteries such as Normandy. [email protected] Mark & Cheryl Pillar wrote: > Hello List, > I am trying to locate the social security information on my Uncle Evan > Davies who was killed in Normandy, France in 1944. I have searched the > Social Security Index for his information but nothing comes up. Do any of > you have any suggestions on how I can find out his Social Security > information? > > Thanks > > Cheryl Jones Pillar > > ==== PAERIE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the PA-Erie Mailing List > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Hello List, I am trying to locate the social security information on my Uncle Evan Davies who was killed in Normandy, France in 1944. I have searched the Social Security Index for his information but nothing comes up. Do any of you have any suggestions on how I can find out his Social Security information? Thanks Cheryl Jones Pillar

This message was sent directly to me - Can anyone help Karen? If you can please respond directly to Karen and not to me, unless you want to copy the list. Bill Klauk ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen J. Meyn To: William Klauk Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 11:48 PM Dear Bill, While looking at my 1865 atlas of Erie County today, I saw that there was a cemetery in Tract 207 of Greene Township, about 3/4 of a mile directly east of St. Boniface Church (on the road that goes to Wattsburg). Since the family I am researching owned property right next to the cemetery, I am hoping you might know something about it; that is, is it still there and are the gravestones legible? Is it attached to a church? I will so much appreciate any assistance you can give me with this request. There are three children in the family I can't find who are likely buried somewhere in Greene Township. As always, Karen [email protected]

Hello list, On behalf of Mike (Wennin), I would like to start accepting nominations of people for the web site's Contributors Hall of Fame page. This page is intended to list people who have made significant contribution to Erie County (PA) Genealogy web site, part of the USGenWeb and PAGenWeb project. I would like to let users nominate people, rather than just start listing people that I know (or believe) should be listed, so I would like to handle the procedure in this fashion. Everyone may nominate up to five people. Send the message ONLY TO ME not to the list! Use the same subject - Contributors Hall of Fame. Please include a short one or two sentences why you think the person should be nominated. Near the end of the month, I will post four top nominees, then four more at end of February (assuming I have that many submissions). Please consider those who have contributed in the past 4 or 5 years, not just those contributing now. Bill Klauk Co-Coordinator, Erie County (PA) Genealogy, USGenWeb/PAGenWeb Project Millcreek Township, Erie County, PA

Haven't been able to do much in the last several days (normal aches and pains of a 56 year old) at the PC. Although the below seems like a long list, it was not very 'sit at the PC' intensive. Hopefully, over the weekend I will get several of the "Faces" pages completed that people have submitted information and pictures to me. January 18-19, 2001 Added new Erie County Schools page, still Under Construction, but with several links. Added Venango Township Early Schools link as provided by Betty Matteson Rhodes to both the new Schools page, and to the Venango Township page. Added a link to the History of the Wattsburg Fair to the Venango township page. Added links to the Military page for Chapter 10, 18 and 26 from the previously posted Bates History. These are chapters about Anthony Wayne, the War of 1812-14, and the "War for the Union". Posted a new page from information contributed by Barb Seyler on Revolutionary War Pensioners that were listed in the 1840 Federal Census. Linked this page to both the Military page, and to the Census page. Bill Klauk Co-Coordinator, Erie County (PA) Genealogy, USGenWeb/PAGenWeb Project Millcreek Township, Erie County, PA

Does anyone know about a history of Erie Co. that was published AFTER 1924? I have a biography for John BANNISTER, son of Anna J. CARR and Joshua James BANNISTER of Venango Twp. from this history (pp. 1246–1247). I would like to post this bio to the Erie Co. Biography board, but need the correct bibliographic citation for it. Gaylene Kerr Banister Houston, TX [email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~banister/index.html

Just saw that Ancestry.Com has a new data base of Erie PA City Directory for 1889-1893. Dick http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4412.htm

Cindy and List, It looks like your Charles T. Hall, Sr. died before Charles T. Hall, Jr. was born, according to the biography from the 1896 Nelson - He very well could have been killed by Natives, if the Natives were highway robbers - at least according to Nelson. Bill Klauk NELSON'S BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY AND HISTORICAL REFERENCE BOOK OF ERIE COUNTY, 1896, PAGE 786-7. QUOTE Charles T. Hall was born in Waterford township, Erie county, Pa., June 26, 1847. His father, Charles T. Hall, sr., was a native of Genessee county, New York, of Scotch descent, and came to Erie county in January, 1847. He was married the year before to Rebecca Hill, daughter of Heman Hill, a native of North Ireland. Mr. Hill accompanied his daughter and her husband to Erie county, and a few days after arriving at Waterford, Mr. Hall started to return overland to Buffalo to look after his household goods which failed to arrive in time. This was the last that was ever seen of him. His horse and wagon were found, but it is supposed that he was waylaid by highwaymen and his body disposed of, for he was never seen again. A few months later Mrs. Hall gave birth to a son, Charles T., jr. She and her child lived with her father in Waterford until 1851, when she was married a second time to William Smith, a son of James Smith, of Harbor Creek. He died in March, 1880, leaving his widow and four children, one of whom is living, Monroe Smith, who resides in Harbor Creek township. Mr. Heman Hall [believe this should be Hill], grandfather of Charles T. Hall, died in 1872. Mr. Hall started in the world, when he was 12 years old, to earn his own living. He worked at farming in Erie county until he was 17 years old, when he went to work for an uncle at Akron, N. Y., and learned carpentry. He remained there for five years, and returned to Erie county, where he worked at his trade throughout the country until he was married, September 7, 1871, to Melodia A. Peck, daughter of Z. E. Peck, of Harbor Creek township. Mr. Peck is a native of Connecticut, and came to Erie county in 1885. Mr. and Mrs. Hall have four children: Perry E., Zalmon C., Harry H. and Estella M., all of whom are living. Mr. and Mrs. Hall live on their farm of forty acres, on the northern border of Greene township. Mr. Hall also owns thirty-five acres in Harbor Creek township that is under cultivation. They are members of the Wales Presbyterian Church, of Greene township, and of the Christian Endeavor Society. Mrs. Hall is an active worker in the Ladies' Missionary Society of the church. Mr. Hall continues to ply his trade as a carpenter, and also works his two farms. He is a member of the State police and Farmers' Alliance. UNQUOTE ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: [PAERIE] Charles Thomas Hall Sr., Erie Co ~1850 > Hello, > > I have a good question. I have a Charles Thomas Hall in my ancestry that > family legend says was killed by Native Americans around 1850 in Erie County. > Does anyone know if there was some kind of a scuffle this late in the > century in Erie? I'm pretty sure that he died in 1847, because I have seen a > 1850 census that has his wife remarried already, and the box married within > the year is NOT checked. The wife's name is Rebecca HILL and she remarried a > William W SMITH. The reason I think it was in 1847 is because she has a 3 > year old Charles Thomas HALL II with her in the census. (CTH II went on to > marry M.A. PECK) > > Thanks and God Bless, > Cindy Snyder > > > ==== PAERIE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the PA-Erie Mailing List > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Hello, I have a good question. I have a Charles Thomas Hall in my ancestry that family legend says was killed by Native Americans around 1850 in Erie County. Does anyone know if there was some kind of a scuffle this late in the century in Erie? I'm pretty sure that he died in 1847, because I have seen a 1850 census that has his wife remarried already, and the box married within the year is NOT checked. The wife's name is Rebecca HILL and she remarried a William W SMITH. The reason I think it was in 1847 is because she has a 3 year old Charles Thomas HALL II with her in the census. (CTH II went on to marry M.A. PECK) Thanks and God Bless, Cindy Snyder

January 17, 2001 Revised the Faces of Erie County and Old Time Photos pages to reflect people on one, places on the other. Moved the Josiah Emerson Family page from Old Time Photos to Faces of Erie County. Added a new feature family page to the Faces of Erie County - Peter Storkel. The pictures and information on the Peter Storkel Family page contributed by Susan McAleer. Bill Klauk (too tired to add signature)

Just for the information of the rest of the group here, please keep in mind that the state of PA did not begin issuing marriage licenses until 1885. Some of you have written asking for lookups for marriages prior to that, and I just wanted to let you know that there won't be any civil record of those marriages. There may be church records, but I'm not equipped or prepared for hunting those down. Irene Crawford [email protected]

In a message dated 1/17/01 7:48:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Is there anyone on the list who visits the Erie County Court House for > This is something I have done before, so who do you need me to look up? An approximate date would also be appreciated. Irene Crawford [email protected]

Hi Everyone! Is there anyone on the list who visits the Erie County Court House for research of marriages? Barb

Hello Everyone, All 27 biographies for Concord Township from the 1884 Bates History of Erie Co. have been posted to the GenConnect Biography board at <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Pa/ErieBios>. Conneaut Township biographies will be posted next. Gaylene Kerr Banister Houston, TX [email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~banister/index.html

Hello list, Mike meant to say Greenfield (Little Hope) Cemetery. With regard to cemeteries in Greenfield township, I am not at all familiar with that township, but perhaps someone who is might like to step forward and be a township coordinator. I have come into possesion of an extract from a booklet put together by a Florence Clint in 1977 which contains a 18 Feb 1973 letter from Richard Cheney detailing some of the Erie County cemeteries. With all the other projects going on, I have had this material "in the pile". I will eventually get the cemetery names included as I can verify them. I have not posted these names previous as I did note some glaring errors in Florence Clint's listing, although from what I understand Richard Cheney was a noted Erie County genealogy researcher so I will presume the information in his letter is correct. Here is the listing for Greenfield from the Florence Clint summary: Miller family plot Middlebrook (oldest in the county) Old Miller Burying Ground Snake Hollow Old Greenfield Greenfield Baptist (at Hornby) Little Hope West Greene Road Shadduck >From Richard Cheney's 18 Feb 1973 letter: 1. Greenfield Baptist Church at Hornby - about a mile east of Station rd at Shadduck's Corners (Hornby). Burials started about 1880. 2. Little Hope Cemetery. 3. Middlebrook Cemetery - Oldest cemetery in Erie County. Located on Route 89 (North East-lowville Road). 4. Old Miller Burying Ground - located at Little Hope. Abandoned. 5. Shadduck Farm Burial Lot - practically gone - plowed under in 1955. 6. Snake Hollow Cemetery - near Macedonia - The Snake Hollow Cemetery was published in the National Genealogical Society quarterly, June 1936, page 41. I will try to get some of this information posted soon, but like I said, I want to verify it first, and just haven't had the time to go visit the Genealogical Society/Historical Society. Bill Klauk Co-Coordinator, Erie County (PA) Genealogy, USGenWeb/PAGenWeb Project Millcreek Township, Erie County, PA