--- The Daily Press, Monday, Nov. 5, 2001 --- Obits: Doris R. BURKE, 82 of Weedville died Sunday, Nov. 4 in St. Marys. Born Nov. 19, 1918 in Bridgeport (Connecticut?). Married Michael P. Burke, who survives. Buried in Mt. Zion Cem, Weedville. No children listed. Ronald Scott BROUSE, 25 of Weedville died Saturday, Nov. 3 in DuBois. Born Oct. 4, 1976 in Raleigh, NC, son of Ronald T. & Lisa PHILIP BROUSE. Maternal grandparents are Robert & Betty Philip of Weedville. Paternal Grandparents are Donald & the late Ethal FRITZ BROUSE of St. Marys. Buried in St. Joseph Cem. in Force. Not married. Births: Son to Barbara & Michael Greethaner of St. Marys on Sat., Nov. 3. Notes: It's election day. I normally vote but I have to ask after last year.... why bother?

--- The Daily Press, Sat. Nov. 3, 2001 --- Obits: Anna Marie GRAFF, 68 of Daguscahonda died Nov. 1 in St. Marys. Born Nov. 25, 1932 in Elmira, NY, the daughter of John & Anna ALLEGRETTO RUSCIOLELLI. Married John "Jack" D. Graff on Nov. 25, 1961, he preceded her in death. Two daughters. Solvent R. "Stink" CHESLOCK, 82 of Treasure Lake, DuBois died Nov. 1 in DuBois. Born July 2, 1919 in Tyler, PA, son of Joseph & Stella SPEHABSKI CHESLOCK. Married Sharon R. KRINER BENNET on Nov. 14, 1987, she survives. He was preceded in death by his first wife, Marcella in June, 1977. No children listed. Rev. Stanley A. BENSON, 94 died Oct. 29 in Cromwell, CT. Born June 24, 1907 in Peoria, IL, the son of Alfred & Dora Benson. Married Edla ? on Sept. 7, 1932 in the Kewanee Convenant Ch. (in Illinois?). He served in Emporium, she worked in Ridgway. Buried in Oakmont Cem., Ridgway, PA. Three sons. Paul R. FREDERICK, 58 of Oil City, PA and formerly of Ridgway died on Oct. 29 at his residence. Born Oct. 22, 1943 in Ridgway, son of Robert & Edna Frederick. Married Sally BORRELLI of DuBois in 1969, she survives. Buried in Oakmont Cem., Ridgway. One son. Births: None Notes: Mrs. M. Rochelle "Shelly" HESS of Warren, OH was selected to participate in a workshop for NASA. She is the daughter of Herb & DeDe STRAUB of St. Marys. The CHS class of '57 will hold a reunion meeting at Elk County Catholic High School on Wed., Nov. 7 at 7 pm. --- END --- Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Friday, Nov. 2, 2001 --- Obits: Anna Marie GRAFF, complete obit tomorrow. Births: None Wedd: Joan Marie HULINGS married Peter Andrew DePRATER on Sept. 8 in the Sacred Heart Church in St. Marys. Bride is daughter of Robert & Mary Ann GREGORY of St. Marys. Groom is son of Andrew & the late Eileen DePrater of St. Marys. Notes: The CHS class of 1952 will meet for luncheon at the Bavarian Inn on Weds. Nov. 7 at 12:45. Call 834-4137 for reservations. >From Fox Township: Following area residents will celebrate birthdays this week; Jeanette MALBURG Ann PETROCCHI Patty KEEBLER Ron MORELLI Romey SECCO Annabell RADAELLI Mr. & Mrs. Wayne CAYLOR will celebrate a wedding anniversary on Nov. 2. Bruno & Rose MATTIVI will celebrate their 45th anniversary on Nov. 10. --- END --- Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Thursday, Nov. 1, 2001 --- Obits: None Births: Son to Deborah & Jeremy HOWE of Kane on Oct. 31. Son to Kelly McCULLY of Ridgway on Oct. 31. Son, Maximillion Joseph was born to Barry & Julie WOLFE of St. Marys on Oct. 30 at DuBois. He joins two sisters at home. Wedd: MaryJo IORFIDA and William A. FENNELL were married recently at St. Charles Borromeo Ch. in Bensalem, PA. Bride is daughter of Mr. & Mrs. Louis Iorfida of St. Marys, groom is son of Mrs. Herta Fennel of Willingboro, NJ and Alton Fennell of Topsail Beach, NC. Notes: None WWW: Diocese of Pittsburgh genealogy. Many of the residents ancestors of this area started out in this country in Pittsburgh. They offer lookups in their marriage and birth records. I've used them and they do a good job. http://www.diopitt.org/admserv/arcform.htm --- END --- Dave B.

Is anyone familiar with the Papa family in Ridgway? I believe our family's to be from the same comune in Italy. Thank you, Margie Papa Researching: Alterisio, Borrelli, Canfora, Cappalletti(a), Durso, Papa, Ronzone(i) Volturara Appula, Foggia, Italy

Dave is quite right about these crests being a novelty item, and one should use caution when buying "family" coats of arms or crests. Most medieval families were not armigerous, that is, entitled to bear arms (and a coat of arms)for their king. For more info on this subject, go to www.dejanews.com and look for the newsgroup rec.heraldry Here is a short bit from their FAQ post: 3: How can I find my coat of arms or my family's coat of arms? ============================================================== This is a difficult question to answer; it requires a great deal of research and skill. In most countries in the world, you can bear any arms you want. This is the way in which arms were originally adopted, before codification and regulation by European heralds and rulers. It is, howver, considered quite wrong to adopt someone else's arms. In some countries, notably Scotland, this is not only dishonourable but illegal. In particular, there are no laws regulating the use of _non-governmental_ arms in the US. The American government neither grants nor recognizes armory. You can adopt any arms you choose and use them however you want (unless you infringe on someone's trademark, which is an entirely different subject that has been beaten to death on this newsgroup so please don't ask about it); but you have no particular right to those arms or any other. If you are descended from someone who was granted arms by some heraldic authority then you may have some claim to those arms within the jurisdiction of that authority. The chances are very good that you do not have any claim on any actual arms. Most people in the world do not. Exactly what conditions you have to meet to establish such a claim vary considerably from one country to another. At the very least, you will have to prove that a recognized holder of the arms is your ancestor. In some countries, you would have to prove that you are the legal heir of that person. Getting an official recognition of your claim is likely to be expensive and time-consuming; in England, for example, it costs thousands of pounds. *** Your last name has nothing to do with the matter. *** Arms are not associated with surnames, but with individuals and, in some countries, with families. The important thing is who your ancestors are, not what surname you happen to bear. The fact that your name happens to be "Smith", for example, gives you no claim whatsoever on any of the thousands of arms borne throughout history by various people named "Smith." Unfortunately, there are lots of unscrupulous businessmen worldwide who are happy to promulgate false information about the subject of armory. They will happily take your money to tell you "Your Family Arms", which they supply simply by finding an armigerous family that happens to share your surname. We suggest that you avoid these companies; if you want anything more than a decorative wall-hanging, they are a waste of your money. And if you will be happy with any pretty picture to hang on your wall, you can save yourself the trouble of dealing with these companies, and simply choose arms that you like. 4: What about those outfits in the malls that'll sell me my arms? ================================================================= See question 3. "Unless you pay them thousands of dollars, the companies [in the malls, and in advertisements in many publications] won't do that research; they'll just look in their books under your surname, and tell you what's there. All that will tell you is that there is (or once was) a person sharing your surname who bore arms. Suppose your name were "Jones"; it wouldn't be very significant to learn that there was once an English armiger named "Jones". - Josh Mittleman (mittle@panix.com) 5: What is the difference between a coat of arms and a crest? ============================================================= Many people mistakenly call a shield bearing arms a crest, for example in the phrase "my family's crest", which usually refers to the shield itself, or perhaps a badge. A full English coat of arms (an "achievement") consists of: - a shield (with arms painted on it, obviously); - above the shield, a helm or helmet; - hanging from the helm, the mantling, which represents a piece of cloth used for protection from the sun. The mantling is frequently arranged in decorative swirls around the shield, suggesting a tattered cloth hacked about in fighting; - a torse, or wreath, being twists of cloth wound around the helmet; - the crest, sitting on the torse. There may also be, if the bearer is entitled to them: - a supporter on each side of the shield (in some cases there may be only one supporter); - a compartment for the supporters to stand on; - one or more collars of orders of knighthood surrounding the shield, or symbols of office (eg batons) behind it. Not all the elements have to be present; the essential part is the shield. There may also be other bits and pieces, such as mottos, badges or war cries. Achievements in other countries frequently differ: for example the torse is not very common on the continent, and coronets are commonly found in French heraldry. Any book should have illustrations of many different achievements, with different selections of these elements. Francois Velde maintains a Web page at http://128.220.1.164/heraldry/intro.htm which contains articles on a number of interesting heraldic topics. There are World Wide Web pages at http://www2.ncsu.edu/eos/users/s/sfcallic/SCA/Heraldy.html http://www.tiac.net/staff/zach/east.html http://www2.ecst.csuchio.edu:80/~rodmur/sca/ which are fairly SCA oriented, but check them out; there is a lot of real-world heraldry information as well. The British Heraldic Archive WWW pages are at http://www.kwtelecom.com/heraldry/index.html and contains information about the Heraldry Society, indices to "The Coat of Arms" and articles of interest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave B." <dboben@usachoice.net> To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: [PAELK] Notes, Oct. 31 > I see the "Personalized Family Name History" is being offered by > "The Sportsman's Guide". This is a lookup of your name, crest if > available and it's origin and it comes in a 14x17" Cherry wood frame. > I've seen these and would say they are more of a novelty item then an > actual genealogy item. Of course this is for the Bobenrieth name but if > you have a common name it might be something more. They are on sale now > for $38 at www.sportsmansguide.com and the item number is LX1P-56752. > >

--- The Daily Press, Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2001 --- Obits: David Jin-Young MILLER, 20 of Williamsport died Oct. 27 in a vehicle accident. Born May 16, 1981 in Seoul, South Korea, son of John R. Jr. & Donna J. SINABALDI MILLER. Buried in Resurrection Cem., Mountoursville. (Grandparents from St. Marys) George A. KINSLER, 98 of Emporium died Oct. 27 in St. Marys. Born Sept. 5, 1903 in Emporium, son of Frank X. & Anna HAUBER KINSLER. Married Kathryn M. DAVIN on Nov. 25, 1926. she preceded him in death on Aug. 10, 1969. Buried in St. Marks Cem., Emporium. One daughter and two sons. Births: None Wedd: Kelly L. RETTGER and Mike A. D'AMORE married on Sept. 15 in the United Methodist Ch. in Johnsonburg. Bride is daughter of Michael & Iva MILLER. Groom is son of Carmen & Cathy D'AMORE of St. Marys. Notes: ECCHS class of '82 reunion meeting on Nov. 1 at 7 pm at the East Branch River Rest. Brittany BRICEN, "Miss St. Marys", daughter of John & Rebecca Bricen was selected as Miss Photogenic and then as 2001 Flaming Foliage Festival Queen in Renovo, PA on Sunday, Oct. 14. I see the "Personalized Family Name History" is being offered by "The Sportsman's Guide". This is a lookup of your name, crest if available and it's origin and it comes in a 14x17" Cherry wood frame. I've seen these and would say they are more of a novelty item then an actual genealogy item. Of course this is for the Bobenrieth name but if you have a common name it might be something more. They are on sale now for $38 at www.sportsmansguide.com and the item number is LX1P-56752. --- END --- Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2001 --- Obits: Rita A. BREM, 84 of St. Marys died Monday, Oct. 29 in St. Marys. Born April 9, 1917 in St. Marys, daughter of John & Theresa REUSCHER STAUFFER. Married Leonard J. "Chickie" Brem on Nov. 2, 1946 in St. Peter's Cathedral in Erie, PA. Buried in St. Marys Cath. Cem. One son. Births: None Notes: None WWW: Bradford Era Obituary Index: http://www.bradfordlandmark.org/obits/obit.html The Courier Express Genealogy: http://www.thecourierexpress.com/index4A.shtml --- END --- Dave

--- The Daily Press, Monday, Oct. 29, 2001 --- Obits: Theresa M. HANES, 76 of St. Marys died Friday, Oct. 26 at a Pittsburgh Hosp. Born Dec. 22, 1924 in St. Marys, daughter of John & Maude DRUEY HALLORAN. Married Richard Hanes on Nov. 4, 1946 in the Sacred Heart Church in St. Marys. He preceded her in death on Sept. 10, 1997. Buried in the St. Marys Cath. Cem. Five sons. Beatrice Uceal KEAR, 98 of Weedville died on Sunday, Oct. 28 at the residence of her daughter there. Born Nov. 9, 1902 in Burns Run (Elk Co.) PA, daughter of David Charles & Della Rose McCOOL CHAMPION. Married George Kear who preceded her in death in 1957. Buried in Morningside Cem, DuBois. Six sons, four daughters. Births: Daughter to Barbara & James ALLEGRETTO of St. Marys on Oct. 27. Notes: None --- END --- Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Saturday, Oct. 27, 2001 --- Obits: Theresa M. HANES, 76 of St. Marys died Friday. Full obit later. Guy V. LAIRD, 86 of Emporium and formerly of St. Marys died Friday, Oct 26 in St. Marys. Born Nov. 16, 1914 in St. Marys, son of Frank & Rose TALBET LAIRD. Married Iona C. RIGARD on June 28, 1957. She preceded him in death in 1998. Buried in St. Marys Cath. Cem. One daughter. William H. STORER Sr., 83 of St. Marys died Friday, Oct. 26 in St. Marys. Born Sept. 15, 1918 in Wilmerding, PA, son of Harry & Elsie UNVERZAGT STORER. Married Martha "Peg" JESBERGER on April 3, 1948 in St. Marys Ch., St. Marys, PA. She preceded him in death on June 21, 1998. Buried in St. Marys Cath. Cem. One son and two daughters. Notes: Virginia HARPER is a patient at DuBois Hosp. (DRMC) would enjoy hearing from friends. --- END --- Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Friday, Oct. 26, 2001 --- Obits: None Births: Daughter to Bonnie & Edward Johnson of Kane on Oct. 25. Notes from Fox Township: Following residents will celebrate birthdays this week (this past week or next week?). Tom NERO Erma BUTTERFUSS Alan PICHLER Barb BOROI Following residents will celebrate wedding aniv. this week; Mr. & Mrs. Don NERO Mr. & Mrs. Randy ANDERSON --- END --- Dave B.

Someone once posted an article about Poorhouses on here about a year ago.....It was very very interesting, I believe it was about poorhouses allover (NY state also) and I believe Elk County's home was briefly mentioned in it too. I would greatly appreciate if someone could resend that to me. Thank YOu!!! Ginny Eakin

Yes, they did several books as follows (all prices include shipping): Cemeteries and Burial Plots of Elk Co., PA-- $65.00 Cemeteries and Burial Plots of Cameron Co., PA-- $30.00 Cemeteries and Burial Plots of Elk Co., PA Book II-- Additions up to 1996-- $15.00 Any of these books can be ordered from Sarah Caskey, 616 S. Michael Street, St. Marys, PA 15857 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. W. Murray" <twmurray@thegrid.net> To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [PAELK] Morningside Cemetery > Good evening! > > The Caskeys did a couple of earlier books on the cemeteries of Elk > County. Does anyone on the list know if they are still available and, > if so, how to order them and what the cost is? > > Thanks!! > > Tim in CA > > Sherry wrote: > > > > Just wanted to let everyone on the list know that the Morningside Cemetery down > > near DuBois in Clearfield County, PA has been read and is now available in book > > form. I knew it had been read, but I just found out lastnight that it was > > available for purchase. > > > > Two lovely ladies from St. Marys, Iris and Sally Caskey, read this cemetery in > > the early spring after Iris's husband died. Iris told me that it contains about > > 12,000 area burials. They are certainly to be commended for undertaking such a > > massive project. I walked through Morningside one day a couple of summers ago > > and chickened out. It's HUGE. > > > > To order a book, please send $40.00 check/money order (tax and shipping > > included) to Sarah Caskey, 616 S. Michael St., St. Marys, PA 15857. > > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > >

Good evening! The Caskeys did a couple of earlier books on the cemeteries of Elk County. Does anyone on the list know if they are still available and, if so, how to order them and what the cost is? Thanks!! Tim in CA Sherry wrote: > > Just wanted to let everyone on the list know that the Morningside Cemetery down > near DuBois in Clearfield County, PA has been read and is now available in book > form. I knew it had been read, but I just found out lastnight that it was > available for purchase. > > Two lovely ladies from St. Marys, Iris and Sally Caskey, read this cemetery in > the early spring after Iris's husband died. Iris told me that it contains about > 12,000 area burials. They are certainly to be commended for undertaking such a > massive project. I walked through Morningside one day a couple of summers ago > and chickened out. It's HUGE. > > To order a book, please send $40.00 check/money order (tax and shipping > included) to Sarah Caskey, 616 S. Michael St., St. Marys, PA 15857. > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Just wanted to let everyone on the list know that the Morningside Cemetery down near DuBois in Clearfield County, PA has been read and is now available in book form. I knew it had been read, but I just found out lastnight that it was available for purchase. Two lovely ladies from St. Marys, Iris and Sally Caskey, read this cemetery in the early spring after Iris's husband died. Iris told me that it contains about 12,000 area burials. They are certainly to be commended for undertaking such a massive project. I walked through Morningside one day a couple of summers ago and chickened out. It's HUGE. To order a book, please send $40.00 check/money order (tax and shipping included) to Sarah Caskey, 616 S. Michael St., St. Marys, PA 15857.

--- The Daily Press, Thursday, Oct. 25, 2001 --- Obit: None Birth: None Wedd: Elise LIBNIC and Harry Kevin LANG were married recently in Los Angeles, CA. Bride is daughter of the late Harold Libnic of CA & Annette Libnic of Arizona. Groom is son of Mr. & Mrs. Gary Lang of St. Marys. Notes: Lots of Trick or Treat notices. Mostly where and when you can trick or treat. Ridgway Concert Choir; Thanksgiving service, Tues., Nov. 20 at Grace Episcopal Ch. Ridgway at 7 pm. "Messiah" on Sat., Dec. 1 at St. Marys High School Auditorium at 7 pm. "Candles and Carol" on Sun., Dec. 2 at Presbyterian Ch. Ridgway 7 pm Christmas Concert on Sat., Dec 8 at Tabor Lutheran Ch. in Kane at 7 pm. Christmas day dinner on Tues., Dec. 25 at First Methodist Ch. St. Marys 12:30 pm Johnsonburg Drum Corps: Young and old members that marched with the Central Hose Co. Fire Dept, Red Rockets, The Armstrong Yellow Jackets, The Diplomats, the Grey Knights of Allegheny or the Allegheny Night Storm at any time regardless of where or when. The present committee is planning a three day event for Sept. 13, 14, 15, 2002. --- END --- Dave B.

It's been awhile since I've posted on this, so I'll try again. I have an old tin type and CDV album which belonged to my 3rd great grandparents, Scott MACDONALD and Catherine BONNERT (BONERT/BONNART). This album contains mostly unidentified pictures which were mainly taken in western PA. Some were taken in St. Mary's. I believe my Catherine _might_ have been the daughter of Francis and Barbara BONNET (Bonnert) shown in the 1850 and 1860 census living in Jones Township, Elk County. Catherine was born in NY abt. 1844 d/o two German parents and was Roman Catholic. She spent some time in PA, parts unknown, where she had a daughter, Maud(e), somewhere in 1866. Scott MacDonald was b. abt. 1833 in New Brunswick, Canada but at the very least passed through Elk County in the 1860s when he had his picture taken. Scott and Catherine are shown together in the 1880 McKean County census with their daughter Maud(e), neices Enney and Fidelia HALCOMB (HOLCOMB) and 7 boarders. If you can help place a name which a face or have any information on the individuals mentioned above, I would love to hear from you! Who are these people? The pictures can be found at: http://public.fotki.com/aandersson/tintypes/ Sincerely, Angela _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca

Is anyone working on the HANES family? I've got a couple blanks I need names for. 1) Rita TUCKER, daughter of Jackson & Theresa GLATT TUCKER married a (?) HANES. 2) Bernadine DIPPOLD, daughter of Thomas & Mary BEIMEL DIPPOLD married a (?) HANES. Anyone know who the two HANES guys were and any of their kids? Dave B.

--- The Daily Press, Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2001 --- Obits: None Births: Son to Teresa & Brian Hanes of St. Marys on Oct. 23. Notes: Nothing of any real interest to genealogist again today. There is a list in the paper of the "National Dean's List" with a lot of local kid in it. St. Marys, Amanda C. BRAWAND Erika BROWN Kacie D. CUNNINGHAM Shannon R. DILLEY Nathan DIXON Patricia ERICH Amy FITZGERALD Valerie GIBSON Richard F. KOPP Denise J. LECKER Danielle D. MATTIUZ Rebecca NOVOSAT Shawn Robert PISTNER Jessie R. WEHLER Marc M. WERNER Amy WINGARD Kersey, Craig W. HALLER Jay R. REIDER Johnsonburg, Emily A. LYNCH Anne McANINCH Rani POAGUE Emporium, Andrea BURE Jacob L. HASKINS

--- The Daily Press, Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2001 --- Obit: Ralph L. MOYER, 74 of Kersey died Sunday, Oct. 21 at the DuBois Hosp. Born June 7, 1927 in Kersey, son of Jesse & Esther FISCHER MOYER. Married Elizabeth IZBINSKI on Dec. 4, 1952, she survives. Buried in Kersey, PA. Two daughters and a son. Birth: Son to Heather MORRISON & Shawn MOORE of Kane on Oct. 22. Son "Austin Roger" to Christopher & Dawn GINTHER ERICH of Ridgway on Sept. 23. Grandparents are Donny & Carol GINTHER of Kersey and Butch & Doris ERICH of St. Marys. Great grandparents are Alice RIGARD, Richard & Lorenza LECKER and Robert & Loretta ERICH, all of St. Marys. Austin has older sister Amber Julie, age 1. --- END --- Dave B.