SORRY, I didn't think it was that big of a thing, I know it's been a busy month for the list. Dave BOBENRIETH GJ & SJ wrote: > Please keep this OFF the list-- it has nothing to do with > genealogy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D. Bobenrieth <dboben@penn.com> > To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:23 AM > Subject: [PAELK] illegally killed elk > > > Could the person that sent the link to the picture of the > illegally > > killed elk please send the link again either to myself or the > list? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave B. > > > > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an > e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word > "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation > marks!) > > > > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!)

Please keep this OFF the list-- it has nothing to do with genealogy. ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Bobenrieth <dboben@penn.com> To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:23 AM Subject: [PAELK] illegally killed elk > Could the person that sent the link to the picture of the illegally > killed elk please send the link again either to myself or the list? > > Thanks, > > Dave B. > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) > >

Could the person that sent the link to the picture of the illegally killed elk please send the link again either to myself or the list? Thanks, Dave B.

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> > WHAT IS A VET? > Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a > jagged > scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside > them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or > perhaps > another sort of inner steel: > > The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, > however, the men and women who have kept America safe wear no badge or > emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? > He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating > two > gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out > of fuel. > He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose > overgrown > frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by > four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. > She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep > sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. > He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't > come back AT ALL. > He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has > saved > countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members > into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. > He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals > with a prosthetic hand. > He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass > him by. > He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose > presence > at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of > all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the > battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. > He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now > and > aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes > all > day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares > come. > He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who > offered > some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and > who > sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. > He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he > is > nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, > greatest nation ever known. > So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just > lean > over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it > > will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were > awarded. > Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU." > (author unknown)

Here is the Pennsylvania Game Commission story of the elk that was recently killed in Grove Township. The horns are 6 feet across! Click on the picture to enlarge it. http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/PGC/newsroom/2000news/nr73-00.htm Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero Check out the Erie County Genealogy page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~paerie

I just wanted to make everyone aware of another local genealogy forum that is now available at http://www.godubois.com/ When the page has loaded, click on "message forums" and a list of forums will pop up. So far, the genealogy forum has the most posts! I can't believe how much online genealogy has grown and blossomed in the past four years. All of these new websites make it much easier to find cousins!

The DuBois (Clearfield County) newspaper, The Courier Express, has put up a genealogy board on their website! I saw this in the paper on Saturday. This is something that they have apparently just started doing. The board is located at http://www.thecourierexpress.com/index2.shtml

I made reference to this yesterday, but I realized I never told anyone the story! I am not at all sure how old this story is, but my mother heard it when she was a teenager and she graduated in 1961, so It's at least forty or more years old. Apparently there was a man named Cooney who killed a young girl, and he then killed himself. I have no idea who the young gir might be, but there is a Cornelius T. Cooney, 1892-1935, Reverend, ordained 1918, buried in the St. Marys Catholic Cemetery. It's the only Cooney grave in the cemetery old enough to fit the story. As the story goes, if you go to the grave at midnight during a full moon, the shadow cast by the gravestone is said to look like a man with the dead body of a young girl in his arms. It would be easy enough to check the old St. Marys newspaper microfilms to find out if this story has any substance. Poor old Reverend Cooney has taken a bad rap all these years. There are still Cooneys in St. Marys-- I imagine they are his descendents. As far as ghost towns, John Imhoff, President of the Elk Co. Historical Society, would be a good one to contact about that. He has been running a weekly story on Saturdays in the Daily Press about the area ghost towns. I am sorry now that I didn't cut them all out. Some of the places that he has been finding, I have never heard of!

My grandfather, Burr A. THOMPSON (1889-1967) told a story about his grandfather (either Peter THOMPSON or Martin F. FRANTZ). His grandfather had a favorite black horse with a white star in the middle of his forehead. Apparently this horse had won quite a few races in the local area (either Kyler's Corners or somewhere near Brandy Camp) earning him a little extra "pocket change" on occasion. When the horse was injured in one of these races and had to be put down, his grandfather was heartbroken. The horse was buried a few hundred yards behind the house with a wooden plaque shaped like a star. Some months went by and All Hallows Eve arrived. Aroused by the sounds in the backyard, my 2d great grandfather investigated. In the relative dim he saw the outline of a horse pawing the ground near the whitewashed star planted in the moist soil. As he approached, he distinguished the star shape on the forehead of the coal-black animal. With a loud whinney and a shake of his head, he turned and fled into the crisp night air, down the hill and into a grove of trees. My grandfather, Poppy THOMPSON said he was told this happened on more than one occasion, and that his grandfather would leave a "treat" near the plaque every Halloween which was usually gone by morning. My grandfather was not prone to making up stories: he was the kindest, most even-tempered fellow I knew as a child. Either someone else fabricated this story and passed it on......or it is absolutely true. Neal Thompson Gardner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Sherry" <gljslj@penn.com> To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 October, 2000 1:59 PM Subject: [PAELK] Halloween Ghost Stories in Elk Co., PA > After answering Tracy Taylor's inquiry about the > Oakmont/Montmorenci Cemetery, I got thinking about a story that > I was told one time about this cemetery, and wondered if anyone > else (Lloyd Yost!) on the list had heard this too. > > When I was in my early to mid teens, I was told that at one > time there was a woman buried above ground in a glass casket in > the Oakmont Cemetery. Seems that she was the girlfriend of one > of the local Ridgway/Johnsonburg Mafioso and died quite young in > the 1920's or 1930's. She was said to be extremely beautiful > and her boyfriend couldn't bear the thought of putting her > underground, so he put her body in a glass caskest and placed it > above ground so he could see her whenever he wanted to. > > Eventually he was forced to bury her or put her in a mausoleum > because she was starting to get moldy, and didn't look so good. > :-P Does anyone know if this is true? > > With Halloween coming on, I thought it might be fun if we could > start a discussion about old Elk County ghost stories. The only > other one that I can think of right now is the Legend of > Cooney's grave in the St. Marys Cemetery. We went looking for > it one night when I was about eighteen, and I scared myself so > badly that I spent forty five minutes on my face on the floor of > a Pontiac Firebird while everyone else got out and looked at it! > <LOL> > > The Benezette Hotel is also said to be > haunted..................... > > > > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) >

Just want to thank all who responded and clarified the name/spelling for this cemetery. Another tiny piece of the puzzle! Tracy Taylor, Houston, TX

After answering Tracy Taylor's inquiry about the Oakmont/Montmorenci Cemetery, I got thinking about a story that I was told one time about this cemetery, and wondered if anyone else (Lloyd Yost!) on the list had heard this too. When I was in my early to mid teens, I was told that at one time there was a woman buried above ground in a glass casket in the Oakmont Cemetery. Seems that she was the girlfriend of one of the local Ridgway/Johnsonburg Mafioso and died quite young in the 1920's or 1930's. She was said to be extremely beautiful and her boyfriend couldn't bear the thought of putting her underground, so he put her body in a glass caskest and placed it above ground so he could see her whenever he wanted to. Eventually he was forced to bury her or put her in a mausoleum because she was starting to get moldy, and didn't look so good. :-P Does anyone know if this is true? With Halloween coming on, I thought it might be fun if we could start a discussion about old Elk County ghost stories. The only other one that I can think of right now is the Legend of Cooney's grave in the St. Marys Cemetery. We went looking for it one night when I was about eighteen, and I scared myself so badly that I spent forty five minutes on my face on the floor of a Pontiac Firebird while everyone else got out and looked at it! <LOL> The Benezette Hotel is also said to be haunted.....................

Tracy, The Montmorenci Cemetery that your mother is referring to is actually called the Oakmont Cemetery, but it is located along Montmorenci Road on the hill. I never knew it was called Oakmont until a few years ago. The cemetery is very large, and is very well kept. I can't imagine what your mother was referring to? Part of it is located in a valley, but it hasn't been "washed down the hill" as far as I can see. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tatraa@aol.com> To: <PAELK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 12:53 PM Subject: [PAELK] Cemeteries/Ridgway > Has anyone on the list ever heard of a Mt. Moranzi (uncertain of spelling) in > Ridgway? My mother recently told me that her parents (Doris & George BUSHEY) > were buried in that cemetery, but the last time she went there, there was > nothing left of the cemetary. It had been "washed" down the hill. What > happens to those interned in a situation like that? > Tracy Taylor, Houston, TX > > > ==== PAELK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Elk Co., PA mailing list, send an e-mail to paelk-l-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the e-mail. (minus the quotation marks!) > >

Has anyone on the list ever heard of a Mt. Moranzi (uncertain of spelling) in Ridgway? My mother recently told me that her parents (Doris & George BUSHEY) were buried in that cemetery, but the last time she went there, there was nothing left of the cemetary. It had been "washed" down the hill. What happens to those interned in a situation like that? Tracy Taylor, Houston, TX

I'm not a big petition signer by any means, but I checked this out and found it to be quite alarming. I thought the Civil War buffs on the Elk Co., PA website might want to take a look and judge for themselves. "Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: "Save Ohio's Civil War Battlefield : Buffington Island " hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Buff/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, Sherry Jesberger"

Hi all, Quick update to let you all know that thanks to Mary Ellen Smith, the 1860 Census for the following townships are now on-line: Benezett Township Gibson Township Highland Township Jay Township Jones Township Spring Creek Township Enjoy... Nate Nathan Zipfel Elk County Genealogy Project Co-Host http://www.pa-roots.com/elk

Hi Sherry! Hope by know you've gotten the copy of the contract. I'm interested to hear your views on that. I wanted you to check out a web site http://www.museum.com we have a web site there. You can find it by using there search engine and locating Elk County Historical Society. Let me know what you think! Thanks, Mark

I would like to invite everyone to check out the Elk County Historical Society website located at http://users.penn.com/~elkhist I have been working with Mark Groeger, Manager/Consultant of the society, to try to get a little more of the genealogy of Elk County online. Mark added a Genealogy/Research button, and gives a bit of info concerning genealogical research at the ECHS. Helen Hughes is currently the on staff genealogist, and has many years of experience in research. Marie Biel, whom many of you may know, is also on staff at the society. Mark has also linked to the Rootsweb Elk Co., PA resource page located at http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/PA/Elk/ This page is linked to the Elk County mailing list, but will be used as the "official" query board and resource page for Elk Co., PA. Toward the bottom of this page you will see graphics that say "Wills", Biographies, Deeds, Queries, Obits etc. Please feel free to add your Elk Co. family info to these pages. I will be adding some of the flotsam and jetsam that I have here at home in the future to try to make these boards as helpful as possible to those of you doing long distance research. He has also linked to the PA GENWEB page at http://pa-roots.com/pagenweb/ This page gives you a link to all counties in PA. Neither link on the ECHS webpage is clickable right now, but that will be rectified shortly. We would be happy to hear your suggestions about how the webpage or society can be more helpful to you, or answer any questions you may have. The e-mail address for the Elk County Historical Society is elkhist@penn.com And as always, my e-mail address is GLJSLJ@penn.com Thanks a bunch, Sherry Bish Jesberger

I just wanted to let everyone know that the Elk Co., PA Historical Society is having their Fall Festival 2000 tomorrow from 10:00 am to 5 p.m. There will be an antique appraisal, food, weaving and other craft displays and vendors. For the kids, there will be face-painting and a ride on a cart pulled by oxen! Helen Hughes and I are going to be in the Gift Shoppe of the Historical Society from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m., so if you can make it to the festival, be sure to stop in and say HI! By the way if anyone else has had trouble getting ahold of me via my Penncom e-mail address, you can now write to me at elkcountyresearcher@hotmail.com I just can't explain why some of my e-mail keeps bouncing, but at least this is a temporary fix. Sherry Jesberger

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Miller" <dgm442@access1.net> To: "Gordon & Sherry" <gljslj@penn.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [PAELK] MATHERS/WILSON CIRCA 1850-1880 > Mystries always deepen in this business. > Clara Rosfa's bible has a single entry on a "Memoranda" page...It reads "Cthr Bnet. Dide (sic) October the 15 1889" Nothing more. I'm sure this refers to your Catherine Edwards BENNETT. We have pretty good documentation on Clara Rosefa Mathers but not of her parents other than "George" and children. After reviewing the bidding....George and Abraham were both from New York. The families were obviously close (Clara's Bennet bible entry). I would guess that Abraham and George could have been brothers??? If we guess that, and lacking any further evidence I think we may have a link. It would seem that sometime between 1860 and 1880, both families were in Horton Twp, Elk County. May be the 1870 and/or 1880 census would help to clear up a few points. Do you have access to them? If I do I'm ignorant on how to get to them? I have nothing further back, except the stories that Clara Rosfa's mother and wife of George may have been a Cree or Seneca Indian. Its a stretch but her name may have been Mazulma which, according to my Mom's family story means Night Bird. Do the Indian tribes and/or Mazulma mean anythng to you? I'll put this on the list...I've been getting an "access denied" when I try to send e mail direct. May be someone else on the list would be interested. > Regards > Don Miller > >