In a message dated 5/25/00 3:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kkreisher@yahoo.com writes: << From: kkreisher@yahoo.com (Ken Kreisher) To: REDSKI9136@aol.com Sorry, but she is right. In earlier English, the word "Dutch" included the Germans. >> Hi Ken, The key -word here is (included ), that did not make the Dutch, German. Thank You, Mary Jane