In a message dated 5/25/00 10:51:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, EBenn5630 writes: << I beg to differ. The Pa Dutch is actually Pa German. From one who was born and bred in the area. A >> I beg to differ with you as well. The Germans did not come here as PA anything. They may have took that title, after getting here. And please remember that when Germany did become Germany, they swallowed up many small countries. Do you know how many different kinds of Germans, there have been in history, as a result of this ? As I said before my people have been in PA, for 12 generations. So this is also from someone born and bred in the area. Thank You, Mary Jane