This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3dB.2ACI/5473.5479 Message Board Post: My grandfather was Clarence Irwin Noll, b. 1908. Grandson of Joseph Achenbach. Clarence lived in Lebanon County as of 1910, later relocated to State College, PA. As a kid I had always heard stories that my grandfather was from a PA Dutch family. Possible connection?