Gene Rooks really did an excellent job on his Weidner pages in the WorldConnect project at rootsweb. I particularly like the way he presents complete, well rounded pictures of his ancestors; none of that happy and fluffy and largely meaningless stuff. (Someone on one of these lists and I are having an argument, it is hardly the first time.) Now this guy is an ancestor I wanted to have! Seems it WAS Elizabeth's father, George Adam Weidner, and not his and Tychicus's father Hans Adam, who put those ads in the Philadelphia newspaper - too bad he didn't repeat the bone chilling tone of that runaway servant ad. The ads also weren't written in the same tone and with the same verbal sophistication - or even grammar - you'd expect of the father, who with another man circumcized each other in the Jewish tradition, which I gather they read about, even in the backwoods of the Ephrata Cloister, and who was such a good craftsman he made a cake mold with hearts and a floral motif on it that still survives. In addition to all those roof tiles. George Adam does seem to have been acquisitive enough; always building mills of one sort and another, and his ads make it clear he did also operate a tile kiln. I wish he'd done more on the collateral lines, though. He does state that Dorothea and Barbara Greiner were both born in Geisselhardt, gives dates, just like all of the Weidners. I know they came to Pennsylvania on a ship called the Dragon or someting - did they belong to the Ephrata Cloister, too? Also, I am wondering WHERE they were married - I thought in Oley, did they actually marry in Germany, and Dorothea's parents just happened to also come to Pennsylvnia? Yours, Dora __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/