Hey, I notice that Johannes Hill, whose descendants also intermarried often with the entire Schneider, Hoch and Keim clan and also lived next door to both Elias Wagner and Philip Burkhart, came from Frankenthal. Not the only person I've gotten info about in the past couple of days who was from Frankenthal. Do he and those Moravian founders have anything else in common? Does anyone know his background? How did he come to have the name Hill, and he was German? I expected that both he and the Bishop guy were English. I did have an ancestor named Levering, came from Muelheim, Germany, near the Dutch border - his people spent two generations in Holland after leaving England during one of the Catholic Stuart reigns. Levering is a place in Suffolk County, near the eastern coast of England, near a port that tens of thousands of English Puritans sailed from for Holland. I do see there were people named Heyl around, pronounced roughly, "Hill"; they could have anglicized their name, but I see it "Johannes Hill" at Rootsweb genconnect. That's a funny way and funny timing for anglicizing a name! Yours, Dora __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/