I could SWEAR taht once upon a time I saw records or a list of the births of all umpteen of the children of Henrich and Elizabeth Wagner. Have not been able to find such a listing anywhere. Bonnie's excellent documentation on the information she sent me made me suddenly aware of what quite likely is the reason why. The Schwarzwald and First Reformed records that I've been consulting on that CD begin in 1781! Can someone please look up the children of Henrich and Elizabeth Wagner (Henry, Wagener, Waggoner) in those church records BEFORE 1781? More tahn likely, they are right there. I know that Barbara was born in 1775. Thanks alot! Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/