Hello, If you search http://www.bookradar.com for this book "The Pennsylvania Dutch" by Fredric Klees, they have multiple copies in various conditions for purchase Marty Graybill > -----Original Message----- > From: Dora Smith [mailto:tiggernut_48@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:26 PM > To: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PaDgo] (Herb) + Oley Valley Heritage on New Born > > > xi. JOHANN CONRAD LORSBACH, b. December 09, 1722, > Lampertheim, Germany; m. > SUSANNA HERB, November 17, 1748, Falkner Swamp > Reformed Church, Montgomery Co. > PA.. > > (Too bad New Born history isn't as proliferate) > > I found several answers to my postings on the New > Born - from 1998, but not the one I was looking > for. "Oley Valley Heritage", pages 106-8 > supposedly contains info on the New Born, unless > it is what is below. From which we deduce that > the Bertolet's, Levan's, Keim's, and Schneider's > all were New Born. Atleast you know where I got > that about everyone in the valley having been New > Borns. > > The ifnormation I want is the name of their > leader, adn the name of the town in Germany that, > as I remember, they all came from. If not > Geisselhardt or nearby, then the Weidner's > weren't New Born, either, since the Weidner's > came from Geisselhardt. And I still want to know > what they were. > > Yours, > Dora > > The next significant group of settlers was a > large group of acquainted or > related families from the Palatinate, including > some families of Swiss > derivation and some families of at least partial > French extraction. The first > of these people settled in the northern part of > the Oley Valley by 1712. It > is likely that most or perhaps all of these > pioneers were members of the > perfectionist 'New Born' sect. Families > constituting this large cluster of > migrants, or who soon arrived and intermarried > with them, appear to have > included those of Baumann, Bertolet, Levan, > DeTurk, Joder (spelled Yoder > today), Kühlwein, Huffnagel, Schenkel, Keim, > Schneider, Hoch (anglicized as > High), Ballie, Peter, Herbein, Weber (anglicized > as Weaver), Kersten (later > shortened to Kerst), Aschmann, Ritter, and > Kauffmann. The presence of the > French families (and exaggeration of the > proportion of French ancestry among > the people) has led over the years to frequent > reference to this group of > settlers as the "Oley Huguenots." > > > OK, I will tackle this one. The Neu-gebornen, or > Newborn, who settled in the > Oley Valley in Berks County early in the 18th > century, were one of the most > fantastic of all the religious groups. Declaring > that they were like Adam > before the Fall, they believed themselves to be > free of sin and even incapable > of sinning, an advantage Adam never possessed. > The Newborn left little mark > on the religious life of their day; few people > were simple-minded enough to > take them seriously. Honest--that is what my > books says. Hey, this is a > great topic. There are a million of these sects > in this book on the PA Dutch. > Ever hear of the New Mooners? The Millerites? > The Society of the Women in > the Wilderness? All were small religious sects > active in some area of Pa > Dutch culture. The book is called The > Pennsylvania Dutch by Fredric Klees and > is, or was, used as a text book in Lancaster > County, PA high schools. It was > published by the MacMillan Co. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM >