Gregory, I found some folks by or somewhat by the spelling you listed to have inter-marreid with the HARTING/HARDING/HARTUNG of western Berks County and eastern Lancaster County, PA the spelling make go by Berkenhauser or even Perkenhouser etc. Interestred? I do believe they did move WEST. D. Ernest Weinhold [email protected] Hartung researcher (plus many other surnames) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.