>I recently discovered some new connections for my 4X great >grandmother and then a few days later, my 3x great grandmother. As >I had, in January 20001, just a year ago, only the names of my >father's parents, and I'd never met them, I am astounded to have all >these names and cousins and Great-great's. Just in case someone else is researching the same names, I am posting them alphabetically. Please be aware that this is speculative, I haven't checked birth certificates, land records, wills, and so on yet -- there hasn't been time. My Grandmother was a GEIST. I believe her family came from Wuerttemberg originally and that most of these names are also originally from that state, which is west of Bavaria and parallel to central France on the map. The GEIST source is the book, GEIST RELATION, from which I have several zeroxed pages. Grandmother's mother was a STITZER and I have no information at all on the family. Grandmother's grandmother was a BOYER, and I hope to borrow a genealogy book including this grandparent and learn more. Grandmother's great-grandmother was a FETTEROLF, and Elizabeth FETTEROLF'S line goes back hundreds of years. Grandmother's great-great grandmother was Julia or Juliana LONG, related to DUSINGER and BURGER. It's really strange to me to suddenly be writing about some of these people who died before 1807, say, and claim them as ancestors, when they've existed for me for such a short time and their lives were so long ago. Please have patience. It's quite amazing to me, and I hope some of you are cousins of mine. Good grief, we might even be 5th or 6th cousins! BOYER, in PA by 1832 or earlier BURGER, Germany in early 1700's DUNKELBERGER, in PA in early 1700's DUSINGER, Germany in early 1700's FETTEROLF, in PA by about 1730? GEIST, in PA by 1740 GODSHALL / GOTTSCHOLCK, to Bucks county by early 1700's GUERTNER / GURTNER, in PA in early 1700's HAUER, to PA by mid 1730's , possibly Bucks county KIRSCHNER /KARSHNER, to Bucks county by early 1700's LEPPERTIME, northern Germany, Belgium, Holland, early, mid 1600's LONG, from Germany to PA in early 1700's, to Berks county METZGAR, mid 1600's in Germany, Belgium, Holland ROTHERMAL, in PA by 1730, said to be from Holland SEITZ, in Bucks county by mid 1700's SPORER, of Wachbach, Wuerttemberg, late 1600's STEINER, to PA by mid 1700's STITZER. in Pa by 1865 and probably much earlier ZIMMERMAN, mid 1600's in northern Germany, also Holland and Belgium If anyone reading this has suggestions, especially for chasing down the elusive STITZER family, I'd welcome hearing from you. Is anyone else researching these families? Suggestions for further searches would be appreciated. I would really like to document everything but I'm aware that finding birth certificates, at least, is unusual that far back. Hoping lots of unknown cousins read this, Ashley --