One more thought. I can check the PA Archives for earliest tax records given there. And you can see which ones the courthouse has. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: James Freeman <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [PDGO] Early Deed Transfers > > Cathy, > > You are familiar with the ancestors I am researching. The land in question > belonged to Henrich Freyman, f/o Casper Freeman. The description of the > property on the deed transfer after Casper's death is practically useless. > It uses trees that were growing at the time (abt 1828) as markers for the > property lines. Were they the same trees that may have been used to mark the > property lines in 1774 when Henrich penned his will or when Henrich became > the owner? The property lines were not described in his will. > > The Land Warrants I found were granted to "Casper Feeman" in 1734, my guess > as the likely father of Henrich who named his only son Casper. The 1734 > Warrant was voided in 1746, I believe, because Casper Feeman did not comply > with the terms of the Warrant. A new Warrant for the same property was > issued the same day to a Valentine Feeman, who later acquired other property > by Warrant and the name was spelled Freeman for those. The property was > probably never Deeded to the original Casper, but to Valentine. No Wills or > Estates are on file for either of these men in Berks or Lancaster Counties. > > Thanks for your suggestions. Somewhere there MUST be a record that will make > a connection. Just need some clues on where to dig. Thanks. > > Jim Freeman > > > > > Jim, it is still not required to record a deed in PA. When we bought here > in 1982 I did a title search and found one that wasn't recorded back in > 1913. However, if the supposedly grandfather did have a deed did you check > to see if it was on the same land? his deed description and the first one > you found of your ancestor should jive. Or work through the tax records to > see who paid taxes on the land after first owner died. Or if there were no > wills for those first two you found, then go to orphans' court as there > would have to have been an inventory, etc. and distribution if land was > involved, whether or not actual orphans were involved. Did you also look > for Letter of Administration? I assume you did that. Check orphans' court > carefully because sometimes the accounts are in the name of the person > acting as executor and not in children's names. Also I have a will > mentioned in a will about 30 years after the ancestor died, but the will of > first ancestor is lost. Also I had to write three times to Delaware Co > courthouse to get a will which they told me two times wasn't there when I > knew it was. > > Good luck. Happy New Year. > > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Freeman <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:21 PM > Subject: [PDGO] Early Deed Transfers > > > > In a nutshell, this is my problem: An ancestor of mine inherited land from > his father abt 1774-5 and no deed transfer was filed in Berks County. After > the son died in 1828, the Estate sold the property and a Deed transfer WAS > filed which explained the earlier transfer from father to son according to > the terms of the fathers Will. No record exists in Berks for where the > father got the land. It was probably transfered BEFORE Berks County was > formed in 1752. I checked with the Lancaster Co. Deeds Office & found no > record there. The land would have been part of Lancaster before 1752. I > checked at the State Archives to see if my ancestor received a Land Warrant > from the state. No luck there for the earliest ancestor I have documented, > but found two others with similar surnames who got land in "Tulpehocken" & > "Heidelberg" as early as 1734. One of them has the same first name as the > son of my earliest known ancestor. Could be the grandfather. > > > > I need to find some documentation of this early Deed transfer to hopefully > make the family connection. I was told at the Lancaster Deed Office that it > may not exist because it was not required to record it back then or it may > have been recorded in Philadelphia. My question is where in Philadelphia > would records of early deed transfers be found? > > > > Jim Freeman > > > > > > ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== > > If you have questions about this list contact the admin at: > > Joan Young, [email protected] or Don Hartman, [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== > If you have questions about this list contact the admin at: > Joan Young, [email protected] or Don Hartman, [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >