hi Group , I would like to know of a list that discusses Naming Patterns for the Dutch / Holland / Netherlands / Flanders areas , IE , I know that ' Van ' means from town of Duesen , as in Van Duesen , and xxxx sen / son is son of , as in Abrahamson is son of Abraham , but how is the female / male given name differaniated , IE ; is Janneken male or female ..... Anybody know ?? , Phil