In a message dated 4/9/2005 10:39:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, FamilyHart@aol.com writes: Recently, there was an advertisement on several of our lists ---- It should probably also be noted as an addendum to Don's post that RootsWeb's AUP doesn't permit advertising or commercial posts on the message boards or the mailing lists. So the original eBay posts that were gatewayed to a few of our lists from the boards should not have been posted in the first place and I have deleted them from the boards. I'm sure you all realize that Don's post was to alert everyone to be cautious in these matter should you see an advertisement slip through on a list. As admins, we don't really have too much control over the initial posts--especially those that slip through from the gateway. All we can do is to react and remove the posts after the fact. It is up to all of your to be cautious. Also, please don't assume that is is ok to post a commercial post or advertise an item for sale on our lists and boards. And, if you have a question about something you would like to post that could be considered commercial, please write privately to the admin address for the list before doing so, to help determine the appropriateness of the post. Thanks! Joan

Thank you for this information. Sometimes we all get a bit too enthusiastic, and don't do enough research.

List Members, Recently, there was an advertisement on several of our lists for a Kauffman book written by Charles Fahs Kauffman that was listed on eBay. The current bid on this book is for $108.50. It should be noted that this is a reprint and that it has water damage. FYI- I just picked up a copy of this same book (no water damage) through the Internet at Dinki Books in Lancaster, PA for $80. Please be careful with your book purchases on eBay. On our main website, http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com, we have a bookfinder, where you can look up books offered on the Internet through reputable book stores, and assess real market value. You might want to use this before making book purchases through eBay. > < Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart _http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/_ (http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/) Administrators for the following lists at Rootsweb: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm

In the 1790 Federal census there are ca 25 SARLES' in Westchester County N.Y. A couple in Montgomery Co. Who are you looking for? Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: <PADUTCHgenONLY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PADUTCHgenONLY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:00 AM Subject: PADUTCHgenONLY-D Digest V05 #37

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SARLES Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/6167 Message Board Post: Where in New York State would I be likely to find PA Dutch settlements in the 1780's? What records should I be looking at for a specific family (SARLES)?

Our online database was updated this past Sunday with over 10,000 new names bringing our online total to 418,622. These can be viewed at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ > < Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart _http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/_ (http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/) Administrators for the following lists at Rootsweb: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MOYER, LEARN, SHAFER, KELLER, LABAR, BOSSARD, ROMMAGE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/1921.2326 Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Catharine MOYER b. 1799 in Northampton or Monroe Counties. She married Jacob LEARN, b. 10 Aug. 1794 in Easton. They migrated to Cattaraugus County, NY in the 1820's. Her name may have been spelled Maier or Moier and the family may have been connected to Christ Hamilton (or Hamilton Square) Church. Any help please! So many MOYERs!!

Dear List: As a new subscriber, I want to list the surnames that I am searching. Kuehner (Kiener, Keener), Kline, Koch, Freeman. Mostly from the Delaware River area near Easton, PA. My mother was Mary Lucile Kuehner, daughter of Amelia Katherine Kline and Franklin Oscar Kuehner. Thanks for any help. Ruth Clark, Poinciana, FL

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/2724.4167 Message Board Post: I have tryed to e-mail you, but unable to. Please contact me about the Kitchen family's of Pa. I would love to share information with you. Donna Kitchen Shaw - shaw@clab.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kumm Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/6166 Message Board Post: I read the messages on Pennsylvania Dutch and just wondered if theres any good maps of germany here on the interent that i can download! Like to see about the Germany maps before 1848.Thank You.Robert K.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/6164.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jeanie, If you go to the PA Archives online -- http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=17 -- there are several Civil War cards for Wm. Bowser. Hope this helps. Carol Movahed

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kooms Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/370.2 Message Board Post: I realize that your post was 6 plus years ago, but my maiden name is Kooms and it is unusual enough that I am interested in cooresponding with you about it. I am from AR orgininally.

Hi, 1880 cencus shows them, in Easton, as follows, Ervin Plattenburg age 30, born in Pa. and a wall paper hanger!!1 wife Tillie, born 1842, in pa. also living with them are a daughter of Tillies, for another marriage, Maude Midaugh age 12 ( 1868). in 1900, Tillie is living in Phila. widowed again, and with her dauhter Matilda and son Roy P. born 9/1881. don,t know if this is any help??/ just checked things out and found this!!! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <jhrjjrrar@netzero.net> To: <PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: [PDGO] Plattenburg > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Plattenburg, Horn > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/6165 > > Message Board Post: > > I am searching for birth records for an Albert/Roy/Leroy Parker Plattenburg, born near Easton, PA. b. 6 Sep 1881, m. 3 Oct 1900 in Philadelphia to Florence Cranston Long. All I have on the parents names are Father: Irvin Parker Plattenburg and Mother: Matilda Horn. > Any information would be sincerely appreciated. > > > ==== PADUTCHgenONLY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list, send a new e-mail to: PADUTCHgenONLY-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject and message body. If you are unsubscribing from digest mode, send your e-mail to: PADUTCHgenONLY-D-request@rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Then, of course. on eof my GERMAN ancestor,s was a Schaeffer. Ernest

Crystal, Did you know that the Rittenhouse family were one of the earliest Mennonite families to settle near Germantown (near Phila?) T hey had the FIRST paper mill in Penna. Early 1700,s. Ernest

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Plattenburg, Horn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/6165 Message Board Post: I am searching for birth records for an Albert/Roy/Leroy Parker Plattenburg, born near Easton, PA. b. 6 Sep 1881, m. 3 Oct 1900 in Philadelphia to Florence Cranston Long. All I have on the parents names are Father: Irvin Parker Plattenburg and Mother: Matilda Horn. Any information would be sincerely appreciated.

Hi all, sorry to get this out to you late. Been busy with everything mostly the viruses my daughter and I were fighting. I'm thankful Lynn sent this too me! Other info I had on Robert Jonathan Tobias: bn 18 Nov 1920. md 29 Mar 1947 Shillington, Berks co, PA to Caroline Mary Mariah Rittenhouse. Now on their marriage license it stated that Robert's mother: Mary B. maiden name was Schaeffer not David. This will need to be checked out. Caroline was bn 22 July 1927 Berks Co, PA dau of John R. Rittenhouse and Caroline M. Rickenbach-both were bn in Berks Co, PA. wow, looking back at my files in my 3-ring notebooks seems there is more confusion on Robert's parents. My notes say to look at my file on Benjamin Franklin Tobias and Mary (Baker) Davis. My file on Frank B. Tobias (no parents listed) has bn Penn Twp his daughter, Mary's md license says Bernville and son Martin's says Strausstown. Mary B. Schaeffer (possibly Davis) bn Reading. Dau Mary says Montgomery Co, PA and son Robert's says Philadelphia, PA. The children: 1. Benjamin F. Tobias bn abt 1909 Reading md Violet McElhenny 1 Jun 1935 Ephrata, Lancaster Co, PA 2. Mary Margaret Tobias bn abt 1910 Reading, Berks Co, md #1 LeRoy J Madenford 28 Sep 1935 Shillington md #2 Norman Weaver Kurtz 6 Jan 1945 Denver, Lancater Co, PA 3. Martin D. Tobias bna bt 1915 Womelsdorf, Berks Co, PA md Violet G. Zerr 19 Jun 1939 Mohnton, Berkls Co 4. Robert Jonathan Tobias bn 18 Nov 1920 (above) The file for Benjamin Franklin Tobias and Mary Baker Davis/Dovis has: Benjamin Franklin Tobias (his obit says Frank B., his son Paul's md. lic says Frank B) bn 5 Nov 1883 Tilden Twp, Berks co. (dau Martha's md lic says Shartlesville) bp 10 May 1884 Zion (Blue Mt) Lutheran Church, Strausstown, Berks Co, PA d. 14 Mar 1950 St. Joseph's Hospital, Reading, Berks Co, PA buried the following Monday at Fairview Cem., Shillington, Berks Co, PA. He is the son of Benjamin H. F. Tobias and Mary Weidman/weibly/Weible. Mary Baker (son Paul's md lic says Baker) Davis (husband's obit says Mary B. (Davis). bn abt 1885 Montgomery Co, PA dau of Daivd and Clar. M. Dovis. The Children not in order (listed in order of father's obit): 1. Paul A. Tobias bn 12 Nov 1913 Womelsdorf, Berks Co, PA d 8 Aug 1966 buried at Forest Hills Cem, Reiffton, Exeter Twp, Berks Co, PA md Mildred E. Wagner 29 Aug 1938 Shillington, Berks Co, PA 2. Benjamin F. Tobias 3. Mary A. Tobias md Norman Kurtz 4. George W. Tobias 5. Martin D. Tobias 6. Martha Arline Tobias bn 20 Oct 1917 Mohnton, Berks Co, PA d 8 May 1972 md Melvin Randolph Haas 16 Apr 1938 Shillington, Berks Co, PA 7. Robert J. Tobias Benjamin H F Tobias is bn 1 Nov 1841 d 7 aug 1887 age 45-9-6 bur Frieden's Reformed church, Sharlesville, Berks Co, PA son of George Tobias and Catharine Hix. Md Mary Weidman/Weibly/Werbal/Weible Mary W. (above many spellings of last name) bn abt 1850 d 19 Apr 1904 age 54. Bur at Frieden's Church, Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA Children for Benjamin and Mary: 1. Jacob Tobias bn 28 May 1874 d 7 May 1875 Berks Co, PA age 0-11-9 2. Katie W. Tobias bn 24 Aug 1876 Upper Bern Twp, Berks Co, PA bp 29 Jan 1877 Frieden's Church, Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA md George S. Billman 22 Nov 1902 Shoemakersville, Berks Co, PA 3. James Monroe Tobias bn 2 Apr 1880 bp 18 Jul 1880 Frieden's Lutheran Church, Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA 4. Benjamin Franklin Tobias bn 5 Nov 1883 (above) George Tobias bn 15 May 1801 Tulpehocken Twp, Berks Co, PA (md lic says Bern Twp) d 14 Mar 1883 Strausstown, Berks Co, PA of dropsy and old age. age 81-9-29 bur Frieden's Luth Church, Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA md 6 Oct 1832 Tulpehocken Twp, Berks Co, PA by Rev. Hendel. George son of Jacob Tobias and Barbara Degler (my 4th Gr eat Grandparents). George md Catharine Hix (Hixbird on md. lic). Catharine Hix bn 19 May 1808 Tulpehocken Twp, Berks Co, PA (md lic says Upper Tulpehocken Twp) d 21 Oct 1877 Upper Bern Twp, Berks Co, PA of palsy & dropsy. bur Sharltlesville Congregation, Frieden's Church Cem., Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA dau of Michael Hix & Eliz. Belleman. Their children: 1. Nelly Tobias bn abt 1833 PA 2. Daniel H. Tobias bn 3 Jul 1834 Upper Bern Twp, Berks Co, PA d 16 Apr 1905 Shartlesville, Berks Co, pA of heart disease bur Frieden's Cem., Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA 3. Samuel H. Tobias bn 31 Jul 1836 Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA d 12 Jan 1904 age 65-5-12 bur Frieden's REf. Church., Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA md Amelia Lengel 10 Dec 1880 Frieden's Ref. Church, Shartlesville, Berks Co, PA. (there is a note by his name that he could have married #1 Elvina (Levina) Hix and #2 is Amelia) 4. Percival H. Tobias bn abat 1839 md Rebecca Berger. 5. Benjamin Tobias bn 1 Nov 1841 PA (above) 6. James H. Tobias bn abt 1844 md Ellen Jacob Tobias bn btwn 1750-1760 d btwn 1840-1850 possiblyUpper Bern Twp, Berks Co, PA. I am sure he is the son of the immigrant Hans Jost Tobe but can't find Jacob's birth record. Md 20 May 1788 by Rev. Boos to Barbara Degler. Barbara Degler (I have more info on her not on the computer.) bn 31 Mar 1762 d 18 Feb 1837 Berks Co bn Zion (Blue Mt.) Cem, Strausstown, Tulp. Twp, Berks Co, PA Jacob and Barbara's children: 1. Solomon Tobias bn 6 May 1789 Berks Co, PA d 28 Feb 1870 age 80-9-22 (another researcher has 28 Feb 1871) bur Bellaman's Cem, BerkS Co, PA md CAtharine Schlappig 2. John Tobias bn 25 Sep 1790 Berks Co, PA (my line) d 16 Dec 1876 near Strausstown, Berks Co, PA md #1 Maria Althouse (can't prove this yet) #2 Margaretha Heffner/Hoffner #3 Catherine C. Keller (my line) 3. Elisabeth Tobias bn 14 Jul 1794 Berks Co, PA bp Summer Hill Church, Manheim Twp, Berks Co (now Schuylkill Co) PA 4. Jacob Tobias bp 1 Apr 1798 Summer Hill Church, Manheim Twp, Berks CO, PA 5. Benjamin Tobias bn 13 Mar 1799 d 21 Jun 1816 Berks Co, PA bur St. Michael's Church, now TIlden Twp, Berks Co, PA 6. George Tobias bn 15 May 1801 (above) We know that Hans Jost Tobe (Johann Jost Thowe) had a son Jacob and many researchers are estimating him being born in 1748. My Jacob does fit the bill! I'm sure My Jacob is Hans' Jacob! crystal (tobias) ritter ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Vondran AT&T<about:blank> To: P_Reg_Crys Tobias<about:blank> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Robert J. Tobias Obit Reading Eagle online Obituaries for March 15, 2005 Robert J. Tobias Sr.<> Robert J. Tobias Sr., 85, formerly of Shillington, died March 12 at 8:17 p.m. in the Denver Nursing Home, Stevens, Lancaster County, where he had resided since Sept. 15, 2002. He was the husband of Caroline M. (Rittenhouse) Tobias. Born in Cumru Township, he was a son of the late Frank B. and Mary B. (Davis) Tobias. Tobias was employed for 43 years by the Wide Awake Shirt Co., Muhlenberg Township, retiring in 1980 as a supervisor in the shipping department. He was a member of St. John's Lutheran Church, Mohnton. Tobias was an Army veteran of World War II. He is also survived by a son, Robert J. Jr., Alburtis, Lehigh County; and three daughters: Cheryl A. (Tobias) Heilman, Fredericksburg, Va.; Dr. Gloria C. Tobias, Shillington; and Johanne M. Tobias, Philadelphia. Other survivors include six grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. Services will be Friday at 10 a.m. in the Joseph D. Giles Funeral Home Inc. & Crematorium, Mohnton. Burial will be in Wyomissing Cemetery, Gouglersville.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3dB.2ACI/728.919.3003.3013.3743.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hazel hi, this is kind of wierd, but my grandmother is Rose(Clark) Rudnik. My name is Stephanie. She is William Clark's daughter. I am aware that you are also in contact with my cousin,Debbie Ludwig, her dad and my gram were brother and sister. I would be very interested in corresponding as well with you. My mom has not had a lot of time to finish getting information from Debbie, as she now has my neice and nephew living with her so now , I am assissting her for my gram, I will share any info that i have as well with you. I really appreciate the help and thank you very much. My email is Steph18744@yahoo.com or steph1822@adelphia.com Thank you and it's nice to meet you since we are family.

So far 11 people have asked for the pictures, but just in case i missed someone, please email me privately to metfordplatt@telkomsa.net and i will put you on. To the eleven, I have sent as a test (with some text) of Abraham Kassel (I know you all didn't ask for *that* one, but as I said, it was a test). If you did not get this photograph, that means you are not on the list at all! Please let me know. Please check your mailbox often so it doesn't overflow. Michel

Always happy to get corrections and additions! I've become so absorbed (obsessed?) with STRAUB/STROUP I haven't worked on CARRICO for several years. I'll bet a lot of progress has been made that I haven't caught up with. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: Carolyn [mailto:shupe@citcom.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:53 AM > To: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PDGO] Kolb, Carrico, Beery/DeBerry > > > Diana, > ------AND, besides Kolb, you have my Carrico line on your site!!! > Verlinda/Melinda Carrico (of Peter & Catherine unk. Carrico) is my > 4gr-grandmother. I'll help you fill in some blanks with her > descendants > if you like. I can help with the source info, too. > > You have an Elihu Beery that I think! may be a son? of Eli DeBerry > thought to be a brother or son of my John DeBerry b. c. 1742 > in France > d. 1832 WV. > > Back to reading more of your site--------->>>>>> > > Warm regards, > Carolyn >