Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4728 Surname: KUPP, LANDIS ------------------------- Did you find your notes yet? Union Twp is where the KUPPS were from. Not too far from COVENTRY AREA of Chester Co. Am still anxious to see if you have a Sara R KUPP who may have marred William LANDIS. Thanks, Diana

M You don't need to apologize. The purpose of this list and others like it is so you can post to everyone at once. Another purpose of this type of list is to share information. When people respond privately to message that seeks information about a family or individual, only the person asking the question benefits from the response. Others looking for the same information don't receive it. All responses to this list and others are stored in searchable archives. It is possible to go back through those archives and look for information that has been sent to the list that may help you. Your question is an interesting one. I'm sure there are others who will also be interested in the answer. Marilyn CT "michael d. mahaffey" wrote: > > Hello, > Sorry to post to everyone at once. I am trying to find out if "Rhude" is a > German name. If not could it be a misspelling on a record or a shortened > form for Rudolph??? > Thank you, M.

I live in a state where access to vital records is very restricted. There is a severe restriction as to who can obtain copies of an individual's birth certificate. I would like to see more stringent restrictions on who can obtain copies of all present day vital records. For instance, I could walk in a get as copy of the marriage record for my neighbor's daughter who married a year ago. This would give me all the family information for both she and her husband. I have no legitimate need for this information. The genealogists in my state helped to write the present law that is one the books. Unfortunately voluntary restrictions pertaining to individual p does not work. In every family there are individuals who see not harm in making public information other family members may wish to keep private. Sooner or later there are going to be more restrictive laws passed to protect the privacy and identities of living individuals. Genealogists need to be involved in writing those laws. Who knows better the legitimate needs of genealogical researcher. I don't need access to state and town vital records to find out the maiden name of my cousin's wife's mother. I can pick up a telephone and ask her. I think what I am really trying to say is that experienced professional Genealogy Researchers need to be a part of finding a balanced solution that protects the legitimate interests of the living while making the information needed to learn our ancestral heritage available. Personally, I don't want to find my picture or any other personal information on a relatives web page; and especially on a web page I didn't even know existed. I love looking for my ancestors, but I don't need information about my living relatives to do that. Marilyn Halltall@aol.com wrote: > > "Genealogy" as it is practiced by many on the Internet is indeed a danger to > privacy. Responsible genealogists do not put information on living people on > the web. I have a cutoff date of 1900 and don't release information on people > born after that date. > > I have even seen social security numbers of living people on home pages, > pictures of their grandchildren and so forth, which is certainly invading the > privacy and perhaps even safety of those little ones. > > The congressman from Indiana, probably no genealogist himself, has heard > about this kind of irresponsible data-spreading and is justifiably concerned. > > JHall > >

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4727 Surname: SEEM, REISWIG, NEUHARDT ------------------------- I have the marriage of Elizabeth REISWIG to Georg SEEM, this marriage took place 5 Mar 1767 at Great Swamp Reformed Church, Lower Milford, PA. Elizabeth died then George remarried. George and his two children, John Conrad and Regina are named in the will of John Reiswig (Elizabeth's father) in 1787. Descendants of George Seem 1 George Seem b: October 04, 1742 in of Lower Milford, Northampton, PA d: November 12, 1826/ .. +Elizabeth Reiswig b: Bet. 1747 - 1748 in of Upper Milford, Buck, PA d: 1772/ ......... 2 Regina Seem b: 1769 d: 1827/ ............. +Yost William Hecker b: October 07, 1769 in Petersville, Northampton, PA d: March 1821/ ......... 2 John Conrad Seem b: October 12, 1771 in Recorded inof Moore Twp., Northampton, PA *2nd Wife of George Seem: / .. +Margaret Newhard b: December 15, 1754 d: September 20, 1834/ ......... 2 Catherine Seem / ......... 2 Maria Magdalena Seem b: September 22, 1774 in PA / ......... 2 Elizabeth Margaretha Seem b: January 10, 1776 in PA / ......... 2 Anna Maria Seem b: May 17, 1778 in PA / ......... 2 John George Seem b: January 23, 1780 in PA / ......... 2 Salome Seem b: October 01, 1781 in PA / ......... 2 Susanna Seem b: July 30, 1783 in PA / ......... 2 Conrad Seem b: March 27, 1786 in PA / ......... 2 George Seem b: December 04, 1787 in PA / ......... 2 Jacob Seem b: December 17, 1792 in PA Link: The Risewick family URL: <http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=deenecer>

Hello, Sorry to post to everyone at once. I am trying to find out if "Rhude" is a German name. If not could it be a misspelling on a record or a shortened form for Rudolph??? Thank you, M.

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4725 Surname: BILLET, DELLINGER ------------------------- My opinion is that your Zachariah Billet is the one b. 14 Oct 1829 and baptized 1 May 1830 at Quickel's Church, Conewago Twp., York County, Pa. He was the son of Kraft Billet b. 1778 and Catharina Sipe Billet. I don't know who Zachariah married. His father Kraft was the son of Kraft Billet, the 1751 immigrant, who settled in Hellam Twp., York C., Pa. My 1998 book did not include any of Zachariah's descendants. So I'd be pleased to learn if your George Daniel had brothers and sisters. Don

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4724 Surname: Schoppe ------------------------- Schuylkill Counties Linda, I have some information of the Schoppe family but it is recent. My father who was born in 1912 and whose name was also Walter was, I believe, from Pennsylvania Dutch country. His father was a firemen who died before 1930 when my father graduated from high school. I am just starting a search back to my roots and found your information. I am curious about your Schoppe family. What era are you talking about (i.e., this century, last,...). If it is this century would could be distant cousins? Although I now live in San Diego, I am from Philadelphia where I lived until 1996. I have a brother: William, and two sisters: Judy and Marylou. I was born April 17, 1945. My father Walter was born November 1, 1912 and lived until October 30, 1969. I have no knowledge about my grandfather other than he was a firemen. My father had a sister who died two years ago. Her name was Mildred Schoppe Ward. She was older than my father.

Suzanne, East Buffalo is in Union county PA. You can find it at: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html At 06:27 PM 05/20/2000 -0400, Suzanne wrote: >Hello all, > >I am trying to locate a place called East Buffalo, Northumberland County, >Pennsylvania. Recently I found an extraction of a land sale in Fayette, >Seneca County, New York: "Stephen Frantz and wife Mary Barbara of East >Buffalo, Northumberland County, PA., 1807" > >This may provide just the puzzle piece I am missing from finding the >Pennsylvania origins of my Frantz family; in particular, Jacob Frantz and >his wife Anna Maria, who with five other Frantz families (perhaps brothers), >and Singer/Diesinger families, left Pennsylvania about 1804 to settle in >Seneca County, New York. They were either Reformed Lutheran or German >Reformed Church people. > >Thank you, > >Suzanne Frantz >St. Clair, Michigan > Dan Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III Clinton Computer Consultants RR 4 Box 45 Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 Voice phone (570) 748-3201 Internet dreinhol@cub.kcnet.org Founder of The Millbrook Playhouse. Go to: http://www.centredaily.com/justgo/onstage.htm Then page down and select Millbrook Playhouse. Founding member and President, Clinton County (PA) Genealogical Society http://www.kcnet.org/~history/ Reinhold Genealogy Homepage - http://cub.kcnet.org/~dreinhol/index.html and http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dreinhol Genealogical Surname Searching: REINHOLD, Lancaster County. PA, 1752 - now also variants REINOEL, REINHOLT, REINHOLDT, REINWALD AMWEG, WENGER, WALTER, GENSEMER, Lancaster County, PA, 1700s MUSSER, GLISSEN, - SE PA. 1840 - now MACK, MOCK,- NE PA, 1880 - now Shake any family tree and a few nuts will fall.

Hello all, I am trying to locate a place called East Buffalo, Northumberland County, Pennsylvania. Recently I found an extraction of a land sale in Fayette, Seneca County, New York: "Stephen Frantz and wife Mary Barbara of East Buffalo, Northumberland County, PA., 1807" This may provide just the puzzle piece I am missing from finding the Pennsylvania origins of my Frantz family; in particular, Jacob Frantz and his wife Anna Maria, who with five other Frantz families (perhaps brothers), and Singer/Diesinger families, left Pennsylvania about 1804 to settle in Seneca County, New York. They were either Reformed Lutheran or German Reformed Church people. Thank you, Suzanne Frantz St. Clair, Michigan

In a message dated 5/20/00 5:30:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Halltall@aol.com writes: << I have even seen social security numbers of living people on home pages, >> Hi, I dont know if your aware of this, but it was the SSDI Index that started with posting Social Security #'s, on there database. Some may say that is ok, they are dead people. Well, I dont agree. Are their spouces still alive and their children? I think that info , should be just like cencus info and not released. MJ

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4723 Surname: BILLET ------------------------- MY GRANDFATHER WAS DELBERT LAMAR BILLET. HIS FAMILY IS CHURCH OF THE BRETHREN ORGINALLY FROM PA. I AM NOT SURE WHEN THEY CAME FROM PA TO INDIANA. DELBERT'S FATHER WAS ELMER EUGENE BILLET (1887-1952) HE'S FATHER WAS GEORGE DANIEL BILLET(1857-1915). HE'S FATHER WAS ZACHERIA BILLET. UNFORTUNALLY I KNOW LITTLE MORE ABOUT THEM.

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4722 Surname: HOTTENSTEIN, GENGER ------------------------- Seeking info on EPHRAIM HOTTENSTEIN b. c1835 & d. c1903. Married to CATHERINE GENGER. Lived in or about Maidencreek/ Ontelaunee area of Berks County. Particularly seeking info on his parentage.

"Genealogy" as it is practiced by many on the Internet is indeed a danger to privacy. Responsible genealogists do not put information on living people on the web. I have a cutoff date of 1900 and don't release information on people born after that date. I have even seen social security numbers of living people on home pages, pictures of their grandchildren and so forth, which is certainly invading the privacy and perhaps even safety of those little ones. The congressman from Indiana, probably no genealogist himself, has heard about this kind of irresponsible data-spreading and is justifiably concerned. JHall

Dear PDGO-Rooters: A few minutes ago I received the following unsigned note from one member of this list. Here we go again. How about we stick to genealogy. That is what we agreed to when we joined thins list. Dear Sir or Madam: If you feel that the content of the message I sent to the Northeast list has nothing to do with genealogy in general and is not applicable to New England genealogy in specific, then I have to tell you that I believe that you stand in grievous error. Any effort on the part of misguided and ignorant members of Congress to impede the free flow of information of an historical and genealogical nature is a matter that interferes with the pursuit of family history data, which is clearly interference with the intent and content of this list. Indeed, in its most stringent interpretation, it could close down all of Rootsweb's maillists, to say nothing of all the web sites that are slowly emerging that hold transcriptions of original source data. I must conclude that you did not think the matter through to a logical conclusion when you wrote, castigating me for my posting. Sincerely, Allan E. Green (please note that I did sign my name, which is more than you did!)

Dear Marilyn: I think what he is referring to is the use of your mother's maiden name by your bank as a means of identifying that a caller on the phone is really you when discussing your credit card account. I have repeatedly asked my credit card issuers to use something else, but they insist that when they try to use other types of personal identifiers, people forget what they chose, and they will never forget the maiden name of their mothers. Thus, they insist on using that as their means of insuring that the person who calls them is really you. Allan

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4721 Surname: ------------------------- I am looking for information on a Hendricks, etc. That married a Samuel Early or Earley in the early 1800's. Would you have any information on these people?

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4720 Surname: WERT ------------------------- MY BLOOD FATHER-LENWOOD B WERT IS A PHYSICIAN IN LANSDOWNE,PA. I WAS ADOPTED,AS WAS MY SISTER CAROLYN IN 1972 BY JOHN D. CORE. I STILL TALK WITH MY FATHER AND MY OTHER 1/2 BROTHERS BY 3 DIFFERNT MARRAIGES OF MY FATHER.ANYWAY, IT IS A LONG STORY, AND I WAS BORN DAVID LENWOOD WERT-05-08-1962 AT TRI-COUNTY HOSPITAL IN UPPER DARBY.PA. MY GRANDFATHER WAS REV. PAUL ROTH WERT AND MARRIED LAURA BOYER. MY GRANDPARENTS HAD THREE CHILDREN, GERALD,NEWELL,AND LENWOOD. THEY LIVED IN LEBANON,PA. MY UNCLE GERALD DIED A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND HIS WIFE IS RUTH,MY UNCLE NEWELLS WIFE IS DONNA,AND MY FATHER IS NOT MARRIED. I AM INTERESTED IN FINDING MY TREE. I STUMBLED ACROSS THIS ON THE INTERNET IN HOPES MAYBE YOU COULD HELP ME OR I COULD ADD TO YOURS.PLEASE E-MAIL IF YOU CAN HELP AT DDJNCE@aol.com--thank-you DAVID JOHN (LENWOOD) CORE (WERT)

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4719 Surname: Roller, Rohrer, Rohler, Rennecker, Renicker, Renaker ------------------------- Hi, I'm searching for any information about Rebecca ROLLER/ROHRER b. abt 1816 in PA. and married abt 1835 George RENAKER/RENNECKER/RIENEKER etc.. b. 1811 in PA. And later moving to Columbiana Co., Oh. Thanks James

This is a hint for Windows 98 users (and I think win 95): Unless for some reason it initially never got installed for you, "Character Map" is a little program found in win 98's "System Tools". It allows you to find and produce all manner of special characters on your keyboard such as the umlaut. If you need to do this often, creating a shortcut right on your desktop to load this little program can be quite helpful. The program shows you all the characters and when you select a character it gives you the keystrokes to produce it in your document. Or one can choose a character (or even several) and then click on the "copy" button. Now you can go and paste it (them) right into your document using the clipboard. Phil .......................... Phil (pknox@earthlink.net) For some family genealogy, great links, & just plain fun... visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~pknox/

I can't resist this, How can the maiden name of my greatgreatgrandmother born in the 1790's be a security threat in the year 2000? Marilyn CT ALLAGREEN@aol.com wrote: > > Dear Friends: > > I thought that maybe it was not possible for a member of Congress to further > amaze me with his stupidity, but this has managed to make me rethink that > possibility. > > Allan E. Green > > New Privacy Threat: Genealogy? > by Declan McCullagh > 3:00 p.m. May. 18, 2000 PDT > > Just when you thought there was nothing new to say about the oft-cited > privacy threats that Americans face, along comes Congress with another > worry: genealogy. > > During a privacy hearing Thursday before a House Judiciary subcommittee, > Rep. Ed Pease (R-Ind.) said the growing number of websites that allow > people to trace their families' history was a threat that called for > legislative action. > > "There are some commercial ventures now providing information on this > subject ... oftentimes genealogical information involves a mother's maiden > name, and that is often used by many as a password," Pease said. > > Genealogy.com, for instance, says it has 470 million names in its database. > It allows you to search someone's family tree using their full or partial > name. > > Clinton administration representatives -- who were planning to testify > before the panel about cookies and industry self-regulation -- were caught > completely off-guard by Pease's comments. > > "This is not really anything I've heard about yet," replied Andrew Pincus, > general counsel to the U.S. Department of Commerce. > > "We're dealing mainly with commercial sites, and not these," said Jodie > Bernstein, director of the bureau of consumer protection at the Federal > Trade Commission. > > Pease shot back that "a growing number of commercial ventures" provided > such potentially troubling information and he'd "sure appreciate" it if > the FTC would investigate. > > To survive a free speech challenge, any legal restrictions Congress imposes > would have to comply with the First Amendment, which limits government > controls on publications and websites. > > "Rep. Pease has gotten it all backwards. The inherent insecurity of using > mother's maiden name as a password means that the practice of doing so must > stop, just as most of us know better than to use our birthdays or first > names as any form of password," said Stanton McCandlish, an amateur genealogy > researcher and spokesman for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. > > "Genealogists are neither a new threat, nor any threat at all. Mothers' > maiden names are available from numerous public sources, while the security > risk of using them for passwords is increasingly well known. (Such a bill) > will not withstand even a cursory First Amendment challenge in court," > McCandlish said.