I noticed the Moravian religion mentiond . How do they fit into the scheme of things in relation to the COB? I am still trying to find out the relationships pf the various chyrches.
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4997 Surname: ------------------------- Trying to connect the Baxtresser / Bergstresser surnames through a David Bergstresser b. 1780 son of John Jacob Bergstresser and Anna Rosina. Any help would be appreciated. I do have the Wayne Jones book Vol. 1
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4996 Surname: Jung, Young ------------------------- Well, most of my friends (even my girlfriend) have made the same joke "Mountain Mary Project starring Mike York, with music from Instink, The Back Door Boys and THAT GUY!" But, no, I'm looking for legitimate information on this woman, and actually looking for some of the stories that go along with her too. Here's what I've been able to find out. Anna Maria Jung was born (possibly to Jakob Jung) in 1749. Sometime between 1764 and 1773 the Jung family fled Germany to escape persecution from the wars that raged on. Anna Maria Jung, her father, mother and two sisters, Anna Elisabeth and Maria Elisabeth, settled in the Germantown area. After a few years, as the Battle of Germantown began to brew the father suddenly died. Once again, forced to flee, Anna Maria, her mother and two sisters found refuge in the hills of Oley. They bought a tract of land and, with the help of some neighbors errected a cottage and barn. Things went well, they would buy livestock when their means permitted. Shortly after the mother died. Then each of the sisters got married to men in the Oley valley (one sister possibly getting married twice (she became widowed)). Then, eventually, each sister died, the last one dying in 1799. The mother and two sisters were all buried on the hill on the farm where Mary still lived. It's said that Mary would tend to three or four cows by herself, tending to her own milk, cheese and butter and she would take care of bees as well, cultivating the honey. All of these products would be taken to one of two Philadelphia businessmen she knew. One Daniel Yoder, or one Issac Lee. They would take the goods to philly and sell them for her, and provide her with the money. Her reputation was well-known for two main reasons. It's said that she knew her roots and herbs that she grew intimately. She would be able to use them to heal almost anything. This some say came from indian sources, other say she was a witch. The other part of her reputation came from her concrete and far-seeing advice giving skills. Some people said she had a way of seeing the future. It's also been said that she was very religious. So religious that she knew her "good book" inside and out and could quote any scripture without reading it. Another strange fact, is that the first census in 1790 had her listed as the head of household of her two sisters, and she herself was marked by three words: "Mary (the Abbess)" Indicating maybe her leading of a religious group? Some places where history deviates is whether or not Mary was ever married. In a book called Die Berg Maria written in 1880 by L.A. Wollenweber he states that she met a man named Theodore Benz on the ship on the way over, and that he was an indentured servant to a man named Lienbach in Oley who was a farmer. After Mary and her family had moved to Oley, it was said that Mary and Benz were married in a quick ceremony. But, as the call came from General Washington, Theodore left for war. It's said that he was killed in war, and Mary was never to love another man again. But, a search of records reveals that Mr. Wollenweber made this Theodore Benz up, and merely used it for plot positioning in his book. His book is more used to give an insight into the German-American plight at the time of the American Revolution, so she was the perfect individual to do this with. That's about as much as I know. As you can see, I know very little of the lore, I've only touched on her connection with indians, and her reputation for being a witch. I also was hoping to help sort out the myth from the woman (i.e. whether or not she was actually married). As always, I appreciate any help anyone can give me, and I appreciate all the e-mails I've already received! Thanks!
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4995 Surname: Reinhardt ------------------------- Who was the father of Jacob Reinhardt born 1720 in Germany, married Anna Margaretha in 1745 and died in 1800 in Lincoln County, NC ?
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In a message dated 6/29/00 7:05:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, PADUTCHgenONLY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I think I read about Mountain Mary in the book (I believe is titled) "Blue Hills and Shoe-fly Pie". It had lots of information about Moravian, Mennonite and PA Dutch customs. If you can't find it in your library, let me know and I'll get the full publishing information. I read it several years ago and felt as though I was reliving my youth. I grew up in Berks and Lancaster County and was aware of many things she mentioned. It even included the Pow Wow traditions. Great reading!! >> You can also get it via Inter-Library Loan, I know that I have seen it at the Erie County Blasco Memorial Library. Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SURNAMES: Anderson, Como, Hasselor, Heintz, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), Lydick (Leidig), McAnulty, McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain, Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.
Hi, I think I read about Mountain Mary in the book (I believe is titled) "Blue Hills and Shoe-fly Pie". It had lots of information about Moravian, Mennonite and PA Dutch customs. If you can't find it in your library, let me know and I'll get the full publishing information. I read it several years ago and felt as though I was reliving my youth. I grew up in Berks and Lancaster County and was aware of many things she mentioned. It even included the Pow Wow traditions. Great reading!! Joan, now living in Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Mike York <VoGiG@antisocial.com> To: PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com <PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: [PaDgo] Mountain Mary Information >Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries >Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4992 > >Surname: JUNG >------------------------- > >Starting on a gloomy pre-halloween October night, a friend and I traversed >the gravelled Mountain Mary Road. We were looking for the typical American >teenage fun on a scary backroad. Well, needless to say, we didn't find >anything more than our own irrational fears up there. > >But, ever since that day I've had an obsession with finding out more information >on this individual, seperating the myth from the woman. I've been able >to find out some sketchy information on her, but it's been riddled with >tales of German-American myths. I would appreciate any information anyone >out there can give me! > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4994 Surname: Stine, Collner, Hartman, Grosvenor, Hughes, Mills, Sloan ------------------------- Who is Mountain Mary and where is Mountain Mary Road? Are you kon another Blair Witch Hunt? Always interested in Pennsylvania folklore. CarolynMills Hughes
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4993 Surname: Batzel, Beightle, Peightle, Baitsell ------------------------- Peightle is an alternate spelling for Batzel according to the History of Bedford, Fulton & Huntingdon Co Pa
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4992 Surname: JUNG ------------------------- Starting on a gloomy pre-halloween October night, a friend and I traversed the gravelled Mountain Mary Road. We were looking for the typical American teenage fun on a scary backroad. Well, needless to say, we didn't find anything more than our own irrational fears up there. But, ever since that day I've had an obsession with finding out more information on this individual, seperating the myth from the woman. I've been able to find out some sketchy information on her, but it's been riddled with tales of German-American myths. I would appreciate any information anyone out there can give me!
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4991 Surname: KAMM, KIEHL, SWEIGART, CARVELL, LAUSCH, FRY, EBERLY, WHITCRAFT, DUSSINGER, LEID, SMITH, ZELL, HECK, BIRD, SHENK, RUMMEL ------------------------- Lancaster County PA
I just finished updating my page of Wagner clues with all of the information I gathered at the library last weekend. I have alot of scraps of information on the following Berks County families; Wagner (Bern, Roscrummanor and Exeter), Ritter, Hoch, Scheider (Oley and Exeter), Keim, Diehl, Dieter, other closely related families, at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/fathersfam/wagnerclues.html. The Burkharts and Wagners I am trying to pin down with the clues I have to their identities, are at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/fathersfam/burkharts.html. Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4990 Surname: MARY ------------------------- QUERY ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE SCHWENK FAMILY OF MARY OR SOPHIE.
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4989 Surname: Eliza Zellers ------------------------- I am searching for my husband's great grandmother-Eliza Zellers-I think she resided in the Allentown-Bethlehem area of Pennsylvania around 1790s.
I have Levinus Stein b 15 Apr 1825, s/o George and Catherine, bapt at St jacob's (Howarter), Upper Mahoney twp, Schuylkill Co, sponsors Benjamin Hering and Lydia. That would be Levi given a Latin spelling for church purposes. Cathy Berger ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Mills Hughes <nanunanu@earthlink.net> To: <PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: [PaDgo] Stine > Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4982 > > Surname: Stine, Mills, Grovenor, Hartman, Collner, Sloan, Hughes > ------------------------- > > Do you know the names of Levi and Catherine's children? I am looking for > the parents of Elizabeth Friday Stine b.Sept2,1875-----d. Aug.30 1912.She > married Dr. Norman Clyde Mills. Carolyn Mills Hughes > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4988 Surname: Reisch, Reish ------------------------- I am trying to connect to some of my Pennsylvania Dutch ancestor "orphans". Have found isolated references to a Jacob & Susanna Reisch, ca 1807 in Columbia County, Peter Reisch, ca 1805, Schuylkill County, Daniel Reisch, ca 1800 in Northhampton County, and Jacob, Peter, Johann George, and Christian Reisch, ca 1800 in Westmoreland County. Can anyone shed any light on these people? Thanks.
If anyone has FTM CD 129, Church Records of Adams, Berks, and Lancaster Counties, or the books this CD was compiled from for Berks County, I'd appreciate a lookup. That is apparently the one southeastern Pennslyvania church records CD my library doesn't have. FTM web site says there are records for Ferdinand Ritter, 1729-1881, Frantz (Francis) Ritter, 1729-1881, and George Ritter, 1729-1881. Could somebody please print out those records or put them in an e-mail and send them to me? Thanks much. Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
I found 1734 and 1754 tax lists at rootsweb for Philadelphia County and relevant parts of it. The 1734 tax list has George and Francis RUTTER in Oley. The 1754 tax list has Ferdinand, Francis, and George RUTTER again in Exeter township. My guess would be Exeter was made out of part of Oley. Anyhow, this would seem to imply that Ferdinand Ritter was related to George Ritter father of Frantz or Francis Ritter and to an earlier Francis Ritter who was George's and Ferdinand's contemporary. Someone at FTM thinks so too; at FTM's web site I learned that FTM CD 129, Church Records of Adams, Berks and Lancaster Counties, has records on Frantz Ritter, 1729-1881, Ferdinand Ritter, 1729-1881, and George Ritter, 1729-1881. Those can't be the dates they are supposed to have lived, could be the records of an an individual church. Sure has the names closely associated! Looks like it might list records concerning their children; varying numbers of records for each from several to a dozen. Anyone have that CD I'd appreicate a lookup; I don't think Austin's state library has that one. Either that or it isn't clearly labelled Pennsylvania church records! I previously had Ferdinand settling in Whatsit County that isn't Berks, nearby, relative HEnry married to Barbara who cited granddaughter Elizabeth Wagner in her will, and George with son Frantz who married Barbara Schneider daughter of PEter (of Oley and Exeter) in Exeter, Berks County, Pennsylvania; with lots of evidence Frantz Ritter and wife and all of their kin were related to my Henry and Elizabeth Wagner. Noone has so far been able to tell me what families either Ferdinand or George belonged to. This data suggests they belonged to the same family. I"d appreciate any knowledge anyone has about it. Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4987 Surname: Peightal ------------------------- Looking for ANY info on Peightal family
Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=4986 Surname: Shadle, Smith, Reed ------------------------- I have a ggrandmother, Sarah Shadle b.Abt 1850 m. Oscar Smith Had a daughter, Elizabeth Smith b. 1873 in Mahanoy City; d.5/29/1905 in St Clair. Is there any link with yours?