Connie and all: I always put my foot in it, and maybe I'm doing it now. But there's always someone who will send a personal - or not so personal - note, and say just about anything. There certainly are people in England who still refer to America as the colonies and all of that - I don't know how many such people, since my knowledge about it comes from a book by a guy about his experiences at Eton, the elite aristocratic school Prince William is at, and a "prep school", or private grammar school that mainly turns out students bound for Eton. His masters always introduced him as "our friend from the colonies"! This man attended Eton in the mid 1970's! There is usually someone who can be offended by just about anything. That often comes from where they themselves are at. There are enough other people who like to bully other people with concerns about what might offend people. Without meaning to imply that alot of such people exist, anyone in another country who doesn't want to hear the American point of view about the American Revolution really needs to grow up. Especially since what I think we're talking about was hardly a political statement of patriotic principals, which frankly would have worried me, as I'm no fervent patriot, only someone with enough sense to tune into who my ancestors were emotionally. I would of course want to know how the person who wrote it was related to me. But this was simply family history to anyone who is of Pennsylvania Dutch background. They also need to grow up in the sense that everyone knows that real life is simply that people always go a little overboard on genealogical lists about major holidays. That is because so many people have the "illusion" that genealogy is about family. NOw, I'm not a Christian, and I do often have depression, and I find some of this tiresome. Around Christmas the genealogical lists are always full of holiday greetings, angels, Christmas cards, Christmas customs, all that stuff. I pretty much ignore it - and any mature person who doesn't want to bother with it does. I simply use the delete key - that's what it's there for. Everyone on this planet knows Americans go a bit overboard on the 4th of July! Are we talking about that reprint of what happened to the signers of the Declaration of Independence that someone posted a few days ago? Or something else I missed. I remember some discussion of people in England being glad to see it or something. Anyhow, I saw nothing about it that anyone would reasonably find offensive. I'm really glad it was posted. Made me really appreciate what those people did go through. The Pennsylvania Dutch were very emotional people, and they were fervent patriots. This posting touched on me personally and on my own Pennsylvania Dutch ancestors' experience. The only reason I didn't post this to the Dehaven list is I'm subscribed to that list from another e-mail address. The Dehavens were merchants, and also owned large amounts of land in Philadelphia and Montgomery Counties (and some in Berks County). Peter Dehaven, the brother of a direct ancestor of mine in this large family gruop who settled in Germantown in the 1690's, ran a powder mill on his farm. Together with a number of other Pennsylvania Dutch owners of gun and powder mills, he was principally responsible for keeping Washington's troops stocked. Washington put out a request for "Loans", actually money and supplies to be requested by whatever means from Pennsylvania and probably other people of any means, with promissory notes to be given. Jacob Dehaven, who was Peter's brother, I think, answered this call, and loaned pretty much everything he had. The new government couldn't repay these "notes", and people were forced to exchange the notes as if they weer money. Jacob Dehaven, an honorable man, then sold the rest of what he owned in effort to make good on the notes he'd sold. He died ruined, and, the story goes, heartbroken and bitter at what he perceived ti be a betrayal by his country. He had no direct heirs. His kin, however, have not to this day forgotten this as some see it blot on the family honor. The Dehavens must have been originators of manic depressive temperament among the Pennylvania Dutch, since they were Waldensians driven from France into Belgium whre they became Anabaptists. A fourth cousin of mine, from West Virginia, who now lives near Houston, in the 1980's made yet another attempt to go to court and collect on JAcob Dehaven's loan to George Washington. Groups of Dehavens have been variously suing and lobbying Congress for repayment of that loan since the Civil War. This cousin of mine took it all the way to the Supreme Court - which rejected it. About 1992. She explained that she had promised her father on his deathbed that she would do what she could to recover the family honor. I thought maybe some of my Dehaven cousins need to be brought more in touch with reality. Anyhow, this posting made me very proud that my ancestors risked so much for what they believed to be right. It also further educated me on what really goes on in peoples' minds when they make that sort of a decision - true courage is rarely founded on strictly abstract principals. I also wonder how many people of Pennsylvania Dutch descent attend Eton College? Yours, Dora Smith --- "Connie L. Rickman" <clri@alltel.net> wrote: > Hi to all, I have recieved a personal message > to my 4th of July message. They pointed out > that people from England and other countries > would not appreciate my message as it would be > offence to them and that there are many peoples > in many countries that subscribe to this list > that might find it offensive. I apologise to > anyone I have offended by my message which I > reprint below: > May you all have a very happy and very safe 4th > of July !!!!! Thank you to all of our ancestors > and present day families that have made this > day possible. With hopes that all of our > descendents continue to have this day and this > country to celebrate with honor and pride!! > Again , I apologise if I have offended anyone > with this message. Also, I would ask that no > one respone to this message, it is not ment to > inflame anyone , just to apologise to anyone > that I might have offended. > Connie L. Rickman > www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/1437 > ICQ # 35661024 > Reach me even if you don't have ICQ at: > ICQ Communications Center > http:wwp.icq.com/35661024 > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. 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Seems this note would be most useful to the person who originally made the query. Yours, Dora --- "Richard N. Platt, Jr." <r.platt@snet.net> wrote: > From Richard N. Platt, Jr. Wed Jul 5 09:47:40 > 2000 > X-Apparently-To: tiggernut_48@yahoo.com via > web3202.mail.yahoo.com > Received: from smtp.snet.net (204.60.6.55) > by mta118.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Jul > 2000 14:26:20 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from snet.net (179.5.252.64.snet.net > [64.252.5.179]) > by smtp.snet.net > (8.9.3/8.9.3/SNET-bmx-1.3/D-1.7/O-1.6) with > ESMTP id MAA24364 > for <tiggernut_48@yahoo.com>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 > 12:46:02 -0400 (EDT) > Message-ID: <396366AA.84FA9D89@snet.net> > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:47:40 -0400 > From: "Richard N. Platt, Jr." > <r.platt@snet.net> > Reply-to: richard.platt.sm.55@aya.yale.edu > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: tiggernut_48@yahoo.com > Subject: Platt(s) > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Length: 1296 > > Hello Dora, > > I saw your posting on PADUTCHgenONLY-L. (I get > everything on RootsWeb > that has "Platt" in it.) > > You are partly right. The Gawkrogers of > Yorkshire who came over in the > mid-17th century seem to have changed their > name to Platts (with an "s" > on the end). They settled in Rowley, MA. > > My Richard Platt family (no "s") came from > Hertfordshire in 1637, to New > Haven in 1638, and on to Milford in 1639, where > I still am 11 > generations later. Another family, descended > from Thomas Platt, settled > in Burlington, NJ about 1710. It is not known > where Thomas came from. > There are other Platt families in the South, > some of them German, who > settled in South Carolina and moved west into > Alabama, Mississippi, and > Louisiana. And finally, many Platt families > came over in the 19th > century from Lancashire, many of them Mormons > who settled in Utah. > > Please feel free to forward this to anyone > interested if you like. > > Best wishes, > Dick Platt > ******************************************************************** > Richard N. Platt, Jr. > 132 Platt Lane > Milford, CT 06460-2054 > (203) 878-6094 > r.platt@snet.net > richard.platt.sm.55@aya.yale.edu (permanent > alias) > ******************************************************************** > Blessed are the flexible, for they shall never > be bent out of shape. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Descendants of Mathias Hunsinger Generation No. 1 1. MATHIAS1 HUNSINGER was born 1759 in Germany, and died November 21, 1805 in Ky.. He married MARY GEARS WFT Est. 1791-1803. Children of MATHIAS HUNSINGER and MARY GEARS are: 2. i. JACOB2 HUNSINGER, b. March 31, 1783, N.C.; d. December 19, 1862, White Co., Ill.. ii. ADAM HUNSINGER, b. 1785, N.C.; d. January 09, 1873, Ill. bu Bethel Cem.; m. MARY VAUGHT, WFT Est. 1826-1857. iii. CATHERINE HUNSINGER, b. 1786, N.C.; d. WFT Est. 1812-1880; m. MICHAEL HENSLEY, December 01, 1806, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.. iv. GEORGE HUNSINGER, b. 1787; d. WFT Est. 1788-1877. v. DAVID HUNSINGER, b. 1791; d. WFT Est. 1792-1881. vi. SUSAN HUNSINGER, b. 1793; d. WFT Est. 1794-1887. 3. vii. SAMUEL HUNSINGER, b. 1794, Ky.; d. February 07, 1844, White Co., Il. bu-(?). viii. MARY "POLLY" HUNSINGER, b. 1795, Shelby Co., Ky.; d. WFT Est. 1824-1889; m. JOHN VAUGHT, September 27, 1818, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.. ix. DANIEL HUNSINGER, b. 1798; d. WFT Est. 1834-1889; m. MARGARET STUART, October 12, 1829, White Co., Il.. x. ELIZABETH HUNSINGER, b. March 08, 1801, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.; d. August 09, 1896; m. (1) JOSEPH HAEGELE, WFT Est. 1831-1866; m. (2) PETER MATTHEWS, June 05, 1815, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.. xi. SARAH HUNSINGER, b. 1802, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.; d. October 08, 1884, Arthur, Ill. bu New Providence Cem.; m. BENJAMIN HUNSAKER, November 18, 1821, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.. Generation No. 2 2. JACOB2 HUNSINGER (MATHIAS1) was born March 31, 1783 in N.C., and died December 19, 1862 in White Co., Ill.. He married ELIZABETH "BETSY" SHULL April 01, 1805 in Muhlenberg Co., Ky., daughter of PETER SHULL and ANNA KINSLEY. Children of JACOB HUNSINGER and ELIZABETH SHULL are: i. JOHN3 HUNSINGER, b. August 14, 1806, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.; d. October 09, 1877, White Co., Il.; m. NANCY CROWDER, September 17, 1828, White Co., Il.. 4. ii. ADAM C. HUNSINGER, b. November 01, 1807, Muhlenberg Co., Ky.; d. August 14, 1883, White Co., Il. bu-Mt. Pleasant Cem.. 5. iii. PETER HUNSINGER, b. 1809, Muhlenberg Co., Ky; d. 1898, White Co., Ill. bu-Maple Ridge Cem-Carmi. iv. GEORGE HUNSINGER, b. 1810; d. WFT Est. 1811-1900. v. MARY HUNSINGER, b. 1811; d. WFT Est. 1812-1905. vi. CATHERINE HUNSINGER, b. 1819; d. WFT Est. 1820-1913. vii. SARAH HUNSINGER, b. 1820; d. WFT Est. 1821-1914. viii. ELIZABETH HUNSINGER, b. 1821; d. WFT Est. 1822-1915. ix. SUSAN HUNSINGER, b. 1822; d. WFT Est. 1823-1916. x. SAMUEL HUNSINGER, b. 1824; d. WFT Est. 1825-1914. 6. xi. MATTHIAS HUNSINGER, b. 1825, White Co., Il.; d. WFT Est. 1846-1916. xii. JACOB HUNSINGER, JR., b. December 24, 1826; d. WFT Est. 1827-1916. 3. SAMUEL2 HUNSINGER (MATHIAS1) was born 1794 in Ky., and died February 07, 1844 in White Co., Il. bu-(?). He married POLLY ELLIS WFT Est. 1835-1843. Children of SAMUEL HUNSINGER and POLLY ELLIS are: 7. i. SARAH "SALLY"3 HUNSINGER, b. July 22, 1816; d. May 06, 1879. ii. GREENBERRY HUNSINGER, b. 1820; d. WFT Est. 1821-1910. iii. JACOB HUNSINGER, b. 1825; d. WFT Est. 1826-1915. 8. iv. MARY HUNSINGER, b. August 16, 1827, Phillipstown, White Co., Ill.; d. February 26, 1906, White Co., Ill. bu-Salem Cem.. v. PHILIP HUNSINGER, b. 1829; d. WFT Est. 1830-1919. Generation No. 3 4. ADAM C.3 HUNSINGER (JACOB2, MATHIAS1) was born November 01, 1807 in Muhlenberg Co., Ky., and died August 14, 1883 in White Co., Il. bu-Mt. Pleasant Cem.. He married MASSA CROWDER September 27, 1830 in White Co., Ill., daughter of PHILIP CROWDER and CHARLOTTE ROBBINS. Child of ADAM HUNSINGER and MASSA CROWDER is: 9. i. AMANDA J.4 HUNSINGER, b. August 19, 1855, White Co., Ill.; d. March 17, 1917, Burnt Prairie, Ill.. 5. PETER3 HUNSINGER (JACOB2, MATHIAS1) was born 1809 in Muhlenberg Co., Ky, and died 1898 in White Co., Ill. bu-Maple Ridge Cem-Carmi. He married (1) EMELINE GREATHOUSE November 15, 1835 in White Co., Ill.. He married (2) FRANCES STUART July 27, 1840 in White Co., Ill.. Children of PETER HUNSINGER and EMELINE GREATHOUSE are: i. JEREMIAH4 HUNSINGER, b. September 10, 1836, White Co., Ill.; d. April 11, 1918, bu-Maple Ridge Cem-Carmi, Ill.. ii. CALEB HUNSINGER, b. 1838, White Co., Ill.; d. 1878; m. SUSAN HUNSINGER, February 12, 1862. Children of PETER HUNSINGER and FRANCES STUART are: iii. LOUISA4 HUNSINGER, b. 1841; d. WFT Est. 1842-1935. iv. MATHIAS HUNSINGER, b. 1842; d. WFT Est. 1843-1932. 10. v. HENRY HUNSINGER, b. October 23, 1844; d. November 29, 1882. 6. MATTHIAS3 HUNSINGER (JACOB2, MATHIAS1) was born 1825 in White Co., Il., and died WFT Est. 1846-1916. He married ELIZA ANN FUNKHOUSER May 07, 1840 in ?, daughter of YOUNG FUNKHOUSER and MARY CROSS. Child of MATTHIAS HUNSINGER and ELIZA FUNKHOUSER is: i. EMELINE4 HUNSINGER, b. 1841; d. January 28, 1865, bu-Salem Cem.; m. ELIJAH S. FULKERSON, October 05, 1858. 7. SARAH "SALLY"3 HUNSINGER (SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born July 22, 1816, and died May 06, 1879. She married WILLIAM MELVIN FUNKHOUSER September 16, 1834, son of YOUNG FUNKHOUSER and MARY CROSS. Children of SARAH HUNSINGER and WILLIAM FUNKHOUSER are: 11. i. PRESTON J.4 FUNKHOUSER, b. 1839; d. 1897. 12. ii. MARY FUNKHOUSER, b. 1840; d. WFT Est. 1871-1934. iii. ELIZABETH "ELIZA" FUNKHOUSER, b. December 18, 1842; d. WFT Est. 1843-1936. iv. SAMUEL FUNKHOUSER, b. March 12, 1845; d. WFT Est. 1846-1935. v. CAROLINE FUNKHOUSER, b. 1847; d. WFT Est. 1848-1941. 13. vi. WILLIAM FUNKHOUSER, b. February 19, 1850; d. August 24, 1884. vii. GEORGE T. FUNKHOUSER, b. 1852; d. WFT Est. 1853-1942. viii. ELLEN FUNKHOUSER, b. 1854; d. WFT Est. 1855-1948. ix. CHARLOTTE FUNKHOUSER, b. 1856; d. WFT Est. 1857-1950. 8. MARY3 HUNSINGER (SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born August 16, 1827 in Phillipstown, White Co., Ill., and died February 26, 1906 in White Co., Ill. bu-Salem Cem.. She married JAMES TILFORD "TIP" FUNKHOUSER November 23, 1845 in White County, Illinois, son of YOUNG FUNKHOUSER and MARY CROSS. Children of MARY HUNSINGER and JAMES FUNKHOUSER are: 14. i. SARAH4 FUNKHOUSER, b. August 26, 1846, White Co., Ill.; d. November 08, 1916, White Co., Ill.. 15. ii. HENRY FUNKHOUSER, b. September 28, 1848, White Co.,IL.; d. September 11, 1929, Harrisburg,IL. bu-City Cem.. iii. WILLIAM FUNKHOUSER, b. September 28, 1848, White Co., Ill.; d. July 28, 1852, White Co., Ill.. 16. iv. AMANDA FUNKHOUSER, b. January 05, 1851, White Co., Ill.; d. 1937. 17. v. WESLEY FUNKHOUSER, b. August 15, 1852, White Co., Ill.; d. December 19, 1918, Burnt Prairie-bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.. vi. IRA FUNKHOUSER, b. October 22, 1854, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. May 08, 1948, Carmi, Ill.bu-Maple Ridge Cem.; m. ANNA HOLLAND, August 15, 1875, Cloverport, Ky.. vii. ADELINE FUNKHOUSER, b. December 22, 1856, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. WFT Est. 1880-1950; m. NOAH ROBINSON, November 27, 1874, White Co., Ill.. 18. viii. ESTHER FUNKHOUSER, b. February 26, 1859, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. April 01, 1950. 19. ix. ROSETTA FUNKHOUSER, b. September 07, 1861, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. September 07, 1928, bu-Burnt Prairie Cem.. 20. x. EMMA FUNKHOUSER, b. September 13, 1864, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. February 01, 1895. 21. xi. JOSIE FUNKHOUSER, b. March 12, 1867, Burnt Prairie, Ill.; d. November 22, 1950. Generation No. 4 9. AMANDA J.4 HUNSINGER (ADAM C.3, JACOB2, MATHIAS1) was born August 19, 1855 in White Co., Ill., and died March 17, 1917 in Burnt Prairie, Ill.. She married WESLEY FUNKHOUSER September 04, 1871 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., son of JAMES FUNKHOUSER and MARY HUNSINGER. Children of AMANDA HUNSINGER and WESLEY FUNKHOUSER are: i. LELLA M.5 FUNKHOUSER, b. June 13, 1873; d. WFT Est. 1874-1967. ii. CLARENCE ORA FUNKHOUSER, b. December 10, 1875, White Co., Ill.; d. October 20, 1923, Burnt Prairie, Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. ELIZABETH SPENCER, WFT Est. 1906-1921. iii. MATTHIAS "MACK" FUNKHOUSER, b. October 14, 1879, White Co., Ill.; d. September 11, 1965, Fairfield, Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. MATTIE E. WESTFALL, December 12, 1900, Mt. Pleasant, Ill.. iv. MAUD FUNKHOUSER, b. July 11, 1882; d. June 06, 1911, Ill. bu-Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. CHARLES VAUGHT, March 03, 1907. v. CLAUD FUNKHOUSER, b. July 11, 1882, White Co., Ill.; d. 1882, White Co., Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.. vi. ALICE FUNKHOUSER, b. July 27, 1887, White Co., Ill.; d. October 27, 1951, White Co., Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. ELVIS REILING, WFT Est. 1918-1939. vii. CLYDE FUNKHOUSER, b. 1891; d. WFT Est. 1892-1981. 10. HENRY4 HUNSINGER (PETER3, JACOB2, MATHIAS1) was born October 23, 1844, and died November 29, 1882. He married SARAH FUNKHOUSER January 25, 1865 in White Co., Ill., daughter of JAMES FUNKHOUSER and MARY HUNSINGER. Children of HENRY HUNSINGER and SARAH FUNKHOUSER are: i. ELZINA5 HUNSINGER, b. 1866; d. WFT Est. 1867-1956. ii. DELBERT HUNSINGER, b. 1868; d. WFT Est. 1893-1959; m. BELLE BARNETT, March 13, 1887. 11. PRESTON J.4 FUNKHOUSER (SARAH "SALLY"3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born 1839, and died 1897. He married SARAH O'DELL 1860, daughter of BALUS O'DELL and ELIZABETH CARTER. Children of PRESTON FUNKHOUSER and SARAH O'DELL are: i. MARY5 FUNKHOUSER, b. 1861; d. WFT Est. 1862-1955. ii. EMMA FUNKHOUSER, b. March 08, 1862; d. October 03, 1954, bu-Burnt Prairie, Ill.; m. ANDREW STEWART, 1882. iii. JOSEPH W. FUNKHOUSER, b. 1864; d. WFT Est. 1865-1954. iv. IDA FUNKHOUSER, b. December 18, 1865; d. WFT Est. 1866-1959. v. ELIZABETH FUNKHOUSER, b. 1866; d. WFT Est. 1867-1960. vi. CHARLES FUNKHOUSER, b. 1868; d. WFT Est. 1869-1958. vii. SAMUEL FUNKHOUSER, b. February 05, 1877; d. WFT Est. 1878-1967. 12. MARY4 FUNKHOUSER (SARAH "SALLY"3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born 1840, and died WFT Est. 1871-1934. She married CHARLES EWING August 05, 1858 in White Co., Ill.. Children of MARY FUNKHOUSER and CHARLES EWING are: i. WILLIAM5 EWING, b. 1860; d. WFT Est. 1886-1951; m. IDA HUNSINGER, 1880. ii. CLARA EWING, b. 1861; d. WFT Est. 1888-1955; m. PRESTON VAUGHN, 1881. iii. GEORGE EWING, b. 1862; d. WFT Est. 1894-1953; m. EMMA VAUGHN, 1882. iv. JOHN EWING, b. 1863; d. WFT Est. 1891-1954; m. LUCY SIMPSON, 1883. v. ALICE EWING, b. 1864; d. 1879. vi. ELIZA EWING, b. 1865; d. WFT Est. 1893-1959; m. JOHN WALKER, 1885. vii. MINNIE EWING, b. 1866; d. WFT Est. 1896-1960; m. GEORGE VAUGHT, 1886. viii. CHARLES EWING, b. 1867; d. WFT Est. 1913-1959; m. LENA KUYKENDALL, 1887. ix. EMMER EWING, b. 1868; d. WFT Est. 1905-1963; m. HENRY WALKER, 1888. 13. WILLIAM4 FUNKHOUSER (SARAH "SALLY"3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born February 19, 1850, and died August 24, 1884. He married LUCINDA (CONN) MURPHY WFT Est. 1881-1883. Children of WILLIAM FUNKHOUSER and LUCINDA MURPHY are: i. OSCAR5 FUNKHOUSER, b. 1874; d. WFT Est. 1875-1964. ii. JANE FUNKHOUSER, b. 1876; d. WFT Est. 1877-1970. iii. CHARLES SNOWDEN FUNKHOUSER, b. March 02, 1878; d. April 17, 1966, Mill Shoals, Ill.; m. LENA BOZE, November 12, 1896. 14. SARAH4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born August 26, 1846 in White Co., Ill., and died November 08, 1916 in White Co., Ill.. She married HENRY HUNSINGER January 25, 1865 in White Co., Ill., son of PETER HUNSINGER and FRANCES STUART. Children of SARAH FUNKHOUSER and HENRY HUNSINGER are: i. ELZINA5 HUNSINGER, b. 1866; d. WFT Est. 1867-1956. ii. DELBERT HUNSINGER, b. 1868; d. WFT Est. 1893-1959; m. BELLE BARNETT, March 13, 1887. 15. HENRY4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born September 28, 1848 in White Co.,IL., and died September 11, 1929 in Harrisburg,IL. bu-City Cem.. He married ELIZA ANN GRAVES October 06, 1867 in ?, daughter of GEORGE GRAVES and MARGARET FULKERSON. Children of HENRY FUNKHOUSER and ELIZA GRAVES are: i. SUSAN M.5 FUNKHOUSER, b. Abt. 1871; d. WFT Est. 1872-1965. ii. GEORGE TILFORD FUNKHOUSER, b. July 29, 1875, White Co., Il.; d. June 23, 1955, Eldorado, Ill. bu-Poplar Cem.; m. MARY ANN "NAN" SWADER, WFT Est. 1906-1940, ?. iii. WILLIAM FUNKHOUSER, b. June 07, 1880, Carmi, Illinois; d. October 11, 1950, West Frankfort, Illinois; m. LILLY ELIZABETH ROYE, July 31, 1902, Shawneetown, Illinois. iv. NORA FUNKHOUSER, b. Abt. 1888; d. WFT Est. 1889-1982. v. ETTA MAY FUNKHOUSER, b. Abt. 1888; d. WFT Est. 1889-1982. 16. AMANDA4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born January 05, 1851 in White Co., Ill., and died 1937. She married EZEKIAL PHILLIP GRAVES November 24, 1867 in White Co., Ill., son of GEORGE GRAVES and MARGARET FULKERSON. Children of AMANDA FUNKHOUSER and EZEKIAL GRAVES are: i. MAGGIE5 GRAVES, b. 1872; d. WFT Est. 1903-1966; m. SHERMAN REEVES, WFT Est. 1903-1938. ii. IDA GRAVES, b. 1874; d. WFT Est. 1905-1968; m. JESSE GWALTNEY, WFT Est. 1905-1940. iii. CHARLES GRAVES, b. 1876; d. WFT Est. 1907-1967, Corning, Ark.; m. BERTHA BAILEY, WFT Est. 1907-1942. iv. GEORGE HENRY GRAVES, b. October 22, 1880; d. July 26, 1953; m. ROSANNAH MERRITT, 1900. 17. WESLEY4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born August 15, 1852 in White Co., Ill., and died December 19, 1918 in Burnt Prairie-bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.. He married AMANDA J. HUNSINGER September 04, 1871 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., daughter of ADAM HUNSINGER and MASSA CROWDER. Children of WESLEY FUNKHOUSER and AMANDA HUNSINGER are: i. LELLA M.5 FUNKHOUSER, b. June 13, 1873; d. WFT Est. 1874-1967. ii. CLARENCE ORA FUNKHOUSER, b. December 10, 1875, White Co., Ill.; d. October 20, 1923, Burnt Prairie, Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. ELIZABETH SPENCER, WFT Est. 1906-1921. iii. MATTHIAS "MACK" FUNKHOUSER, b. October 14, 1879, White Co., Ill.; d. September 11, 1965, Fairfield, Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. MATTIE E. WESTFALL, December 12, 1900, Mt. Pleasant, Ill.. iv. MAUD FUNKHOUSER, b. July 11, 1882; d. June 06, 1911, Ill. bu-Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. CHARLES VAUGHT, March 03, 1907. v. CLAUD FUNKHOUSER, b. July 11, 1882, White Co., Ill.; d. 1882, White Co., Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.. vi. ALICE FUNKHOUSER, b. July 27, 1887, White Co., Ill.; d. October 27, 1951, White Co., Ill. bu Mt. Pleasant Cem.; m. ELVIS REILING, WFT Est. 1918-1939. vii. CLYDE FUNKHOUSER, b. 1891; d. WFT Est. 1892-1981. 18. ESTHER4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born February 26, 1859 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., and died April 01, 1950. She married (1) JOHN JONES December 19, 1877. She married (2) WILLIAM ALEXANDER SMITH 1887, son of ANDREW SMITH and ANN CURTIS. Child of ESTHER FUNKHOUSER and JOHN JONES is: i. EFFIE5 JONES, b. 1878; d. WFT Est. 1879-1972. Children of ESTHER FUNKHOUSER and WILLIAM SMITH are: ii. JOHN ANDREW5 SMITH, b. May 14, 1888, White Co., Ill.; d. WFT Est. 1917-1979; m. FLOSSIE HALE, February 09, 1911, Carmi, Ill.. iii. MARY SMITH, b. 1890; d. WFT Est. 1891-1984. iv. CHARLES TILFORD SMITH, b. 1892; d. WFT Est. 1893-1982. v. LUTHER SMITH, b. 1894; d. WFT Est. 1895-1988. 19. ROSETTA4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born September 07, 1861 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., and died September 07, 1928 in bu-Burnt Prairie Cem.. She married FRANK BARNUM WHITE February 25, 1880 in White Co., Ill.. Children of ROSETTA FUNKHOUSER and FRANK WHITE are: i. LESLIE AMZI5 WHITE, b. May 08, 1881; d. WFT Est. 1882-1971. ii. MARY WHITE, b. June 07, 1883; d. WFT Est. 1884-1977. iii. ELDER ROY WHITE, b. November 03, 1885; d. WFT Est. 1886-1975. iv. THURMAN WHITE, b. August 20, 1888; d. WFT Est. 1889-1978. v. LAURA WHITE, b. February 02, 1891; d. WFT Est. 1892-1985. 20. EMMA4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born September 13, 1864 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., and died February 01, 1895. She married JAMES T. GWALTNEY 1886. Children of EMMA FUNKHOUSER and JAMES GWALTNEY are: i. WILLIAM HENRY5 GWALTNEY, b. 1887; d. WFT Est. 1888-1977. ii. CLARENCE GWALTNEY, b. 1889; d. WFT Est. 1890-1979. iii. JULIA GWALTNEY, b. 1892; d. WFT Est. 1893-1982. 21. JOSIE4 FUNKHOUSER (MARY3 HUNSINGER, SAMUEL2, MATHIAS1) was born March 12, 1867 in Burnt Prairie, Ill., and died November 22, 1950. She married JAMES T. GWALTNEY 1896. Children of JOSIE FUNKHOUSER and JAMES GWALTNEY are: i. JENNINGS5 GWALTNEY, b. 1896; d. WFT Est. 1897-1986. ii. LAWRENCE GWALTNEY, b. 1897; d. WFT Est. 1898-1987. iii. PAUL GWALTNEY, b. 1898; d. WFT Est. 1899-1988. iv. EMMA GWALTNEY, b. Private.

Actually, though, the PA Dutch spelled phonetically, using any spelling that was phonetically correct or sometimes phonetically close by the time vowells shifted and sometimes weak consonants got omitted - but Kn for N, though I believe correct, is a new one. I don't even think it is a German spelling - I think it's an English one, not found in modern German not even of the low dialects. I suppose it's possible some English official or clergyman, or schoolteacher, got going on it. Yours, Dora --- TMETTER2@aol.com wrote: > How about Kniss, found in Oley area Berks > County > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real > time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Sounds not unlikely, particularly since it looks as if the original name may have been Neues. LIkely to have morphed into anything except I'd be surprised if I saw Nass. Can you tell me anything about them - if you didn't already. I'm several days behind on my e-mail, and I think I've got a fair amount of mail from you! Yours, Dora Smith --- TMETTER2@aol.com wrote: > How about Kniss, found in Oley area Berks > County > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real > time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Hey, now, this is starting to make sense. Neues could be distorted all sorts of ways very easily. The name sounds more French than German. It's a French spelling construction, properly pronounced something like in "good", or "too", not too far from the German u with two dots over it, like my Kuester's whose name took six and a half forms, and this is close to what I had suspected was the original spelling, though I was looking for another ue. and when it began to be said in German, and written down by people who knew German, likely everything happened to it. Spelling also lends itself both in French and German to something similar to "Noyes". Anyone know their history? Also, it sounds as if they were in the valley pretty early. Actual Huguenots were rare in the Oley Valley, though quite a number of families in the area, like my Deharts, who for some outlandish reason did NOT want to remember they were German, claimed to be Huguenot. Most actual Huguenots in the area came there following Hans Keim, whose close relatives they were. The DeTurck's, the Herbines, and another family. (Typically these Huguenot families had been in Germany for several generations to over a century, and had far more German and sometimes Dutch blood than French, like my Dehavens. Though in Hans Keim's case it rather looks as if, German in direct male line, he was possibly as much Huguenot as German.) Anyone know of any such Neues ties? Henry and Elizabeth prob Nuss his wife were closely tied into the Keim and Schneider clans somehow. Yours, Dora Smith --- SHUPE@CITCOM.NET wrote: > > Are there other ways to spell the name NUSS? > Like > > Ness, Neiss, Nuess, etc? > > > > Yours, > > Dora Smith > > > Dora, > > Surname also spelled Nyce, Neiss, Nice, Nise, > Niss, Neuss, > Neues, Neusz, De Nice, Nyes, & someone said > Gneiss has been > seen, also. My Susanna Nyce married a Peter > Fadley/Fedelee in > 1758 and their daughter, Anna Maria Fadley m. > Emanuel Custer > b. 1754 Pa. > > I looked for your Elizabeth but only found 3 > later births of > that name in my data. > > my Notes: > Most of Neues/Nyce info came from book " Bean's > History of > Montgomery Co., Pa." > http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/montgomery/history/local/mchb0055.txt > > ================ > FREDERICK TOWNSHIP is bounded on the > northwest by New > Hanover > and Upper Hanover townships; on the east by > Perkiomen Creek, > flowing from > north to south, separating it from Marlborough > and Upper > Salford Townships; > on the southeast by Perkiomen township; and on > the southwest > by Limerick > and New Hanover townships. It contains an area > of thirteen > thousand four > hundred and forty acres, is about five miles > wide on the > northwest border, > four and three quarters miles long on the > southwest, and one > and one-half > miles wide on the southeast. Its centre is > fifteen miles > distance northwest > from. Norristown, the county-seat, and > thirty-two miles from > Philadelphia. > ====== > Michael Dotterer, of Falkner Swamp, son of > George Philip > Dodderer, on the 24th of January, 1726, bought > of Hans Neues, > of the Northern > Liberties, one hundred and fifty acres on the > east bank of > Society Run, and > facing the German tract. > ======= > October 26,1720, Hans Neues bought of John > Budd and > Humphrey > Morrey seven hundred and twenty-five acres > (part of the five > thousand acres > granted by William Penn, on the 12th of > October, 1681, to > William Bacon), of > which five hundred acres were surveyed and > located on the 1st > day of > November, 1720, in Frederick township, on both > sides of > Society Run, and > facing the Frankfort Land Company's tract. > ========= > George Philip Dodderer, of Falkner's Swamp, > carpenter, bought > > of Hans Neues, of the Northern Liberties, on > December 22, > 1722, one > hundred acres, and on February 2, 1725, fifty > acres, the two > tracts adjoining and > being located on the banks of Society Run. > ========== > -The first official list of taxables of > Frederick township is > furnished in the return > made by the proprietaries' agent, in 1734, as > follows: > Johannes Neus (Nice) 200 acres > =============================== > > This may help you pursue the family further. > > Warm regards, > Carolyn > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real > time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Friends: I would appreciate some help. I have read all the FTW instructions but cannot merge a small file into a larger file. The small file contains details of one person and his descendants and I want to avoid retyping all of the material. The names and dates of the person in question are identical in the two files but the software says it cannot find the name in the destination file. PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECT - AVOID OVERLOAD ON THE LIST!! dick744@aol.com

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5040 Surname: Lehman, Loh ------------------------- Heinrich Lehman b ca 1790 married Anna Maria Loh 4 Apr 1812 in York Co.PA. Does anyone have info on the LOH family. I have tried Lau, Low, Lowe as yet to no avail. Was Anna Maria from York?

In Trinity Luth Ch. Rec. Reading Friedrich GOTTSCHALL s/o Nicholas md. Maria Elisabeth WAGNER d/o George ROGATE 1774 The plot gradually thickens. I'm behind on my e-mail. So far, Nicholas Gottschall was baptized in Germany in 1740, was son of Christian, married Elizabeth Ness the daughter of Jacob in 1758, in Reading; and had a son, Friedrich, who, in 1774 (when he would have been at most 15) married in Reading Maria Elisabeth WAgner, d/o George ROGATE. Nicholas Gottschall died in 1770, and his widow Elisabeth was appointed executor of his estate on July 23, 1770. Elisabeth the widow of Johan Nicholas Gottschall married Henrich Wagner in Reading on April 2, 1771, and thus became my ancestor, mother of Barbara Wagner who married Philip Burkhart. Then Nicholas Gottschall remarried, to Margaret Nuss the sister of his first wife Elisabeth, they had begining in 1771, ten children, born in Berks County, most of them on specific dates, which I gather noone is finding in any Berks County church records, and then they moved to Jefferson County, Ohio, where Nicholas, of Washington Co, PA (?), left a will probated Apr 5, 1808; this is also the tale that Youngscamp Noname who can be reached only via Geocities form tells. My other source says that latter part is controversial - don't know where it came from yet. Especially I don't know how these people from Washington County, PA, got attributed to Berks County. This is getting go-o-o-od. My immediate question is what does Maria Elisabeth WAgner, d/o George ROGATE mean? I had seen reference to this marriage elsewhere, assumed above all else that Maria Elisabeth Wagner was a Wagner. This APPEARS to imply that WAgner was her married name and Rogate her maiden name, but I've never encountered the name Rogate before, and my source, who confirmed she spelled it right, says she has no idea what it means, either. Is Rogate a known Berks County surname? Or does it mean something else? Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

At 06:39 PM 07/07/2000 -0700, cindy wrote: >Does anyone have any information on the Canceliere family. John and Philomena >Canceliere, had about 8 children. >Michael, anthony, Lena and more. They did live in Stowe/Pottstown/Boyertown >area. Any help would be great. >Thank! I have Margaret Wright married with Anthony Canceliere; she was my mother's first cousin. I believe she and Anthony lived in Birdsboro, Berks Co, PA. Margaret was the daughter of Alfred & Marcella (Weaver) Wright; the Wrights lived in Stowe. Alfred's parents lived in Douglass Twp, Berks Co, near Pine Forge. I have more info on the Wrights; let me know if you can use any. robin

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Obituaries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/DutchObits?read=181 Surname: Canceliere ------------------------- Does anyone have any information on the Canceliere family. John and Philomena Canceliere, had about 8 children. Michael, anthony, Lena and more. They did live in Stowe/Pottstown/Boyertown area. Any help would be great. Thank!

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Biographies Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/DutchBios?read=55 Surname: Rodgers, Glover ------------------------- Col George Rodgers, mrd Catherine Glover, Northhampton Co, PA ca 1812. He served in War of 1812. Parents? Siblings?

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5039 Surname: Hallobush ------------------------- I am descended from the widow Barbara Brickhart Hallobush who came to Montgomery Co. from Zweibrucken Palatinate Germany about 1724 with three boys Christian, Peter, Jost (Yost). I am looking for any information about this family. Wendy Schildwachter wendy316@bigfoot.com

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5038 Surname: Groff ------------------------- PENNSYLVANIA MENNONITE HERITAGE OCT. 1983 - GROFF, HANS (~1670) says that my Gr.,Gr., etc. Grandfather, Samuel (Lancaster Co.), had a brother (your) John who was born 1715 and who died >1763 and that he m. Barbara Moyer b. 1722 d. ? This would make us cousins, however many times removed. I'm trying to place Michael, do you know his spouse? I also have Becker and Moyer in my family.

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5037 Surname: Weber, Lenker ------------------------- Does anyone have a Johan Jacob Weber Born Dec 24, 1803. Married 8 22 1826 Catharine Lenker.They lived in Dauphin CO. but would have come from Berks or Lancaster Co. Can anyone connect?

I am looking for information on the Follweiler name. I am especially looking for information on Samuel Follweiler, born around 1890, he married Annie Roberts, they lived around Kempton, Berks County. They had sons Samuel, Elwood, George, Robert, and a few daughters. Elwood was born in 1910 and married Helen Sittler. Any info would be great, Thanks, Rose

I have a little information on IMHOFF in Lancaster Co. What are you looking for? Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Regina <regina_fallace@hotmail.com> To: <PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: [PaDgo] Heffelfingers in Lancaster Cty PA > Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5031 > > Surname: Heffelfinger, Houtz, Boner, Wolfenberger, Gysin, Imhoff, Teachman, > Norwood, Shaffner, Bailey, Brimmer, Van Zile, Board > ------------------------- > > Looking for information on the surname list above. Pennsylvania Counties > include Lancaster, Cumberland, Berks and Tioga. > > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5036 Surname: Williams ------------------------- I am seeking information about the Artist, William Williams 1727-1791 and about his Son William (Joseph) Williams 1759-1823. I'd like to know as much as I can about their lives in Philadelphia from circa 1747 to circa 1796. Thank you. Jerome Williams

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5035 Surname: Williams ------------------------- Philadelphia I am seeking information about the Artist, William Williams 1727-1791 and about his Son, the Artist William (Joseph) Williams 1759-1823. I'd like to know anything about them, but particularly about their lives, activities and associations in Philadelphia between circa 1747 and circa 1796. Thank you. Jerome Williams-Wrightsville Beach

Posted on: Pennsylvania Dutch Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Pa/Dutch?read=5034 Surname: BUCHER ------------------------- Looking for information on Adam BUCHER b.1767, died 23 April 1847, married to Elizabeth, b. 1765, died 21 Aug 1859. Elizabeth was living in the household of Henry and Nancy Hershey in the Adams Co. Census of 1850. Was she Nancy's mother? Or related to Henry Hershey?