In a message dated 8/15/2007 8:34:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, abenn5630@aol.com writes: Joan, No I mean, did William Penn send his agents into Germany and recruit people to come to America to settle his lands. Perhaps some of these people came over on the Molly. Maybe your ancestor and mine knew each other and came together. My Wieders, spelling now, came from Adelshofen . The next Wieder came in 1740 and settled in Lehigh Co. Pa. Anna in AZ William Penn certainly invited/recruited the Germans to come to Pennsylvania -- especially those who had been persecuted in Europe. Nothing on the ship list states anything other than the Molly passengers were Palatines. Ulrich Leip and Hans Leip (LEIB) both appear on the census list to pay the "Protection Fee" in Freisenheim. Friesenheim is 5 miles north of Ludwigshafen, Germany on the west bank of the Rhine opposite Mannheim on the east bank. The LEIPs were among families of Swiss Mennonites who were encouraged to settle in the Freisenheim area to help reconstruct the villages after the 30 Years War after Ludwig's Edict of Tolerance in 1664. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour