Yes, around the time you wrote that I was well on my way to Lancaster, and I am just now returned from a very nice day on the road! I left here at about 6:15 or so, figuring on about a 3.5 hour trip.? Well, I was off by about 30 minutes!!? There was approximately 30 feet of road surface on my route that is not currently under construction.? And holy freaking cow--did I completely forget about the congestion on Route 30 between York and Lancaster!!? (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home. Driving Route 30 is always one of my favorite things to do, and with the exception of that stretch between Lancaster and York, it was a great trip. Once you get on the other side of Chambersburg, Route 30 is just about sheer bliss the whole way to Greensburg, where it gets congested again. But between Chambersburg and Greensburg, it's nothing but gloriously rural, verdant, rolling Pennsylvania hills?and the open road, which is nicely challenging to drive!? The section between Bedford and Ligonier is especially great, but unfortunately I pretty much have to invent a reason to drive it :o( --Debra? -----Original Message----- From: John Keiper <jdkjak@webtv.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 8:05 am Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride thanks debra for the back ground info on the bikers travelling on route 30 by pass just below our house and garden. as we write, you are probably tooling toward lancaster county. the cold front that was to have brought us some relief this morning will arrive toward noon. shazam & HAPPY MOTORING John & Joyce Keiper >From the "situation room", Bedford, Penna. 15522 at: coventry cottage ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Okay, where'd that go? I just hit reply, and lost your post immediately? I guess cyberspace. I was waving, as I didn't get to read all the posts of the day, but John and Joyce said, "our Debra is taking a road trip on Rt. 30". I thought they had a daughter named Debra, until I read your post about taking a road trip on Rt. 30, then I realized he meant OUR Debra :o) So, I WAS waving back when you passed!!!! And, you were only 6 1/2 blocks away from our house if you take the straight way to it. Now the way I gave, gets you right out front, so you go an extra 2 blocks, but yes, you did go almost right past our house :o) That storm you are talking about, fried our microwave oven again!!!! We lost 3 microwaves because of the lightening, and power surges. That's why I shut down and unplug my computer completely when I hear a storm coming. Guess I better start doing that with the microwave. In 5 years this is our 4th microwave, all fried from lightning storms. Not a good thing. WE started just getting really cheap ones after the really expensive one we had fried. And, the cheaper ones last a lot longer :o) We had to go out and get a new one, right after Mike came home from work :o( Luckily we found one exACTly the same as the one we have. I kicked my brother-in-law off the computer Yes, isn't that congestion wonderful !!!! My husband travels it everyday to go to work, over in York. You should have gotten off 30, came for a quick hello, and then gone on 462 West, which is only 2 blocks from our house to by-pass all that craziness, then you could have gotten back on to 30 along the way, and probably would have made time, when any other day, it would have taken you longer going that way :o) But, if you would have done that, you would have missed the gorgeous view of the Susquehanna!!!!! Did you ever come into Columbia from Marietta way? Down over Chiques' Hill? It's absolutely breath-taking!!!!! I just wish I could capture it on a picture. I am so glad that the plan they had to build a highrise condominium_supposedly was suppose to be the highest in all of Lancaster County_fell through, because they didn't get zoning approval before they planned it all, then they were turned down? Hmmm, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it :o) Sometimes I don't understand developers at all. Anyway, if you ever get the chance to come over the hill on 441, do, because you will love the view of the Susquehanna from there. Lynn Debra wrote: (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home.

Poor Mike--I can't imagine driving that every day, twice a day!? (Crossing myself and blessing my ten-minute commute as I type.) I've definitely got to find a way around it next time.? I think I had myself convinced that the last time I experience all that it was because of the construction, but there wasn't any on that particular stretch this time. And the heat--it was between 90 and 95 the whole time I was down there, but as I drove west and climbed in elevation the temperature dropped.? It was about 83 the whole way through the mountains.? By the time I got home this evening it was a lovely 79 degrees.? (Which is really still about seven degrees too warm, but I'm taking it!) I don't blame you for buying the cheap microwaves--I can't believe you've had to buy that many!? But that sure was an impressive storm--so weird how it seemed to be centered over Lancaster.? The roads were completely dry on the other side of town. I have to give Weather.com credit for nailing that one--they called for a t-storm in Lancaster at 1:00, and that's exactly what happened! --Debra -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 7:49 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride/Road Trip Yes, isn't that congestion wonderful !!!! My husband travels it everyday to go to work, over in York. You should have gotten off 30, came for a quick hello, and then gone on 462 West, which is only 2 blocks from our house to by-pass all that craziness, then you could have gotten back on to 30 along the way, and probably would have made time, when any other day, it would have taken you longer going that way :o) But, if you would have done that, you would have missed the gorgeous view of the Susquehanna!!!!! Did you ever come into Columbia from Marietta way? Down over Chiques' Hill? It's absolutely breath-taking!!!!! I just wish I could capture it on a picture. I am so glad that the plan they had to build a highrise condominium_supposedly was suppose to be the highest in all of Lancaster County_fell through, because they didn't get zoning approval before they planned it all, then they were turned down? Hmmm, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it :o) Some! times I don't understand developers at all. Anyway, if you ever get the chance to come over the hill on 441, do, because you will love the view of the Susquehanna from there. Lynn the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.