If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER get in. We've only had one once, and that time I thought our house was haunted, because my fan chain, in the kitchen ceiling fan, kept going round and round and round, faster and faster and the fan wasn't on, so I knew it wasn't that making it go round. It was a bat making a "Wirbelwind" out there. Of course, I told Mike to handle it, there was no way I was going out there to take care of getting it out of the house. We had one where I worked one time. Someone had trapped it in an upside down trash can. Everytime someone walked passed, they would go to upright the trash can and one of us would yell at them. I'm not sure if us yelling at them scared them, or the fact that there was a bat under it, that scared them_but wish video cameras were poplular back then. It wa a riot until maintenance came and took care of it. Of course, non of us wanted it killed :o) They are so ugly they are cute :o) Lynn Debra wrote: Ick.? I mean, I appreciate them going around doing useful stuff like eating up all the bugs and pollinating the plants and everything, but I will never forget how creeped out I was by that thing flying past my head.? And they are really NOT cute AT ALL.

In German and in PA-D, a bat is a Fledermaus. Many German words are compound words; i.e. they put two words together to make a new word. Strangely enough, while "maus" means mouse, which a bat resembles, there is no English equivalent for "fleder". Flutter comes to mind; but flattern is the German word for flutter. So a bat is a Fledermaus. And the bat made a whirlwind around the ceiling fan? So how did the maintenance men take care of it? Did they slide the can along the floor until they reached the outdoors; or did they slide a piece of cardboard under the can, upright it, and carry it outside? Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Animals in our homes! Yikes it was a bat!! > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > get in. We've only had one once, and that time I thought our house was > haunted, because my fan chain, in the kitchen ceiling fan, kept going > round and round and round, faster and faster and the fan wasn't on, so I > knew it wasn't that making it go round. It was a bat making a > "Wirbelwind" out there. Of course, I told Mike to handle it, there was no > way I was going out there to take care of getting it out of the house. > We had one where I worked one time. Someone had trapped it in an upside > down trash can. Everytime someone walked passed, they would go to upright > the trash can and one of us would yell at them. I'm not sure if us > yelling at them scared them, or the fact that there was a bat under it, > that scared them_but wish video cameras were poplular back then. It wa a > riot until maintenance came and took care of it. Of course, non of us > wanted it killed :o) They are so ugly they are cute :o) > Lynn

Good one, Richard. I will have to remember that the bat got board. Thank you all for the warm welcome to the list. It is refreshing to see a list that is designed for sharing experiences. As for my ties to PD, I have not been able to confirm that yet, but I have been told there are ties. I have not been able to do much research the last couple years because of some things we have had going on here, but hope to be able to get more done in the near future. Sometime this weekend I will send the names I am researching. I will also share some of the funny experiences we had growing up in western PA. Don in AZ

Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Animals in our homes! Yikes it was a bat!! > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > get in. We've only had one once, and that time I thought our house was > haunted, because my fan chain, in the kitchen ceiling fan, kept going > round and round and round, faster and faster and the fan wasn't on, so I > knew it wasn't that making it go round. It was a bat making a > "Wirbelwind" out there. Of course, I told Mike to handle it, there was no > way I was going out there to take care of getting it out of the house. > We had one where I worked one time. Someone had trapped it in an upside > down trash can. Everytime someone walked passed, they would go to upright > the trash can and one of us would yell at them. I'm not sure if us > yelling at them scared them, or the fact that there was a bat under it, > that scared them_but wish video cameras were poplular back then. It wa a > riot until maintenance came and took care of it. Of course, non of us > wanted it killed :o) They are so ugly they are cute :o) > Lynn > > > Debra wrote: > Ick.? I mean, I appreciate them going around doing useful stuff like > eating up all the bugs and pollinating the plants and everything, but I > will never forget how creeped out I was by that thing flying past my > head.? And they are really NOT cute AT ALL. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WOW!!!! Thanks Daniel. I knew they could, otherwise why do what I explained Mike did. So, Anna, was it you who had that sayings book, and where sayings came from? Where in the world did they get the saying: Blind as a bat? Thanks again, Daniel_though YUK!!!!!!!! :o) Lynn Daniel wrote: Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy Lynn wrote: > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > get in.

I haven't been able to find a source for the idiom "blind as a bat". I know that some bats have an echolocation system that ebables them to avoid objects in flight; but that is not true sight. There is a species of bat that flies by vision. While both types can see; the latter type has a much more highly developed retina. The German idiom for extreme blindness is "blind (pronounced like wind) wie ein Maulwurfel" or "blind as a mole". Is there any question that moles are blind? After all, digging in the earth the way they do; they'd have to keep their eyes closed to keep out the dirt; so there's not much point in having eyes, now is there. Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] To get rid of a bat/bats aren't blind :o) > WOW!!!! Thanks Daniel. I knew they could, otherwise why do what I > explained Mike did. > So, Anna, was it you who had that sayings book, and where sayings came > from? > Where in the world did they get the saying: > Blind as a bat? > Thanks again, Daniel_though YUK!!!!!!!! > :o) > Lynn > Daniel wrote: > Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy > > Lynn wrote: > > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, > I > > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside > light, > > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > > get in. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message