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    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] My CSSA and THE Bags :o)
    2. Trish
    3. The benefit to chiropractic care is the release of the nerve impingements we all get from every day living. I lived for years with an impingement that caused my breathing to be more labored and my immune system to be compromised---which made the asthma I have much worse. This eval is not from a chiropractor, but my pulmonologist who did not believe in chiropractic care. Similarly, it has been explained to me that acupuncture can do similar things for the system. I don't pretend to understand it all, I have just seen the results from regular work---on myself (chiropractic care) and others using both. I suggest it because I have seen people's lives affected, such as Lynn's, to the point where living is difficult, or surgery and meds seem the only option and yet given a try at something a little less orthodox than traditional medicine, relieves symptoms and is worth a try. I do have asthma triggered by various causes---cold weather, scents, mold etc. It isn't fixed, but it is much better and I have not had an attack bad enough to put me in hospital in over a decade. As to things not being alleviated except psychologically---most of us did not start out with asthma, and obviously, many have gotten worse as we age---does that mean our genes have "gotten worse" over the years? It suggests to me that whatever we're doing in life is contributing and compounding over time. Consistently slouching can cause a curvature of the spine, that can continue to worsen if left as is. A straightening the spine can reverse that damage, with some work over time---such as the treatment for scoliosis of bracing. Chiropractic care can do similar things over time. Interestingly, other than chiropractic care, regular checkups and having asthma meds available should I have an attack, I do not spend any money on any other medical visits. I don't consider it a waste---considering I and the insurance company don't spend any other money for other treatments. I actually received a letter from the insurance company commending me for utilizing chiropractic care and decreasing their expenditure, lowering our premiums. Like I said, before I had a major back issue and was given really no other option but expensive, debilitating surgery and facing a life in a wheelchair even WITH the surgery---I too was a skeptic. I did not consider anything other than traditional medicine until a friend suggested I see his chiropractor. When it go bad enough I could hardly breathe, I went. Disturbing that without trying it, you're considering it a waste. Tell that to my gym mates who see me on the treadmill 5 mornings a week and lifting weights. I'm not suggesting chiropractic care or acupuncture can relieve all symptoms of all things. Merely suggesting that giving it a try when life is obviously SO affected every single day that one cannot go out shopping more than now and again---were I in that situation, I would want to find a solution to improve my life. If my suggestion helps someone to try something that improves their life---then I'm all for it. I hate to see people suffer if there is potentially another option. I'm not here to argue---just trying to help. T On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Trish- > > I'm not Lynn and I don't believe that acupuncture and chiropractic are > hocus-pocus but there are limits to what each can do. Most diseases have > both > physical and mental components and it isn't always possible to be certain > that a > specific treatment is the cause of an improvement in your condition. It is > wonderful that there was a significant improvement for you and your > friend, but > it may or may not have been the result of acupuncture or chiropractic. > > Acupuncture could possibly trigger endorphins that help with the symptoms > of > asthma making you feel better temporarily -- but it wouldn't be a cure or > remedy for the underlying cause of asthma itself. > > Asthma is partly genetic and is believed to be controlled by two genetic > markers plus environmental (pollution), viral (infections), allergens, and > psychological factors that trigger the condition. There wouldn't be any > way that > chiropractic or acupuncture could remove the root causes of asthma (you > can't > change your genes) and I seriously doubt they could have much of an effect > on > Lynn's condition either -- unless the beneficial effect was primarily > psychological. > > I understand that you are saying as a "last ditch effort" try anything that > you can and obviously people are free to choose to do that--but if money is > a > factor it would probably just be an unnecessary expense. > > I, too, have a form of asthma that is triggered by strong odors, mold, and > upper respiratory infections although my condition is nowhere near as > severe as > Lynn's (she and I have discussed this before). The best thing I can is > avoid > the triggers, try to keep from getting colds and other infections and make > sure I keep my immune system working its best. Her condition may well > improve > over time (I know mine has) but avoiding the triggers is often the best > recourse. > > Just my opinion and two cents' worth--you don't have to agree. <g> > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/27/2009 4:03:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > have you tried chiropractic care and/or acupuncture? A friend was nearly > as > badly reactive as you > are and finally did a last ditch effort to find *something* to help her > breathing, short of living > in a bubble. The acupuncture really has helped her function. I know > chiropractic care has helped > my asthma significantly, to the point that the mold in our sanctuary > really > doesn't bother me > much anymore, except when I am sick or have other things that compromise > my > lungs. > > Before I went to the chiro, before I saw my friend's change from her > acupuncture, I was the > biggest skeptic about the seemingly "hocus pocus" of the two medicines. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/27/2009 08:40:45
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] My CSSA :o)
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. Trish, I know you aren't trying to argue :o) Yes, people are always trying to help. I just feel like I have to try to explain my condition, so they understand. Joan and I have talked extensively on the subject years ago, and she is just trying to help me, by explaining a little :o) She knows how hard it is for me to try to get people to understand what I have. I'm like you, Trish. My doctor is upset with me because I haven't been to him except once, to get an excuse for jury duty, in over 7 years, or more. He now makes me come for a prescription for my emergency inhaler. I'm one who says, "If you aren't sick, you don't have to run to the doctor's." My inhaler only gets used in an exTREME emergency when I don't listen. I just keep it handy in case. I run for the black coffee first, and that usually helps, and I don't get the rushing BUZZ like I do with the inhaler. I don't take ANY other medicines. I truly believe the food we eat takes care of a lot of things, that a lot of people need a pill for. I have a fantastic immune system, and being into Yoga stretches, I'm pretty limber for a 55 years old lady :o) I can run circles around Mike (the younger generations) when doing any kind of work. I also have a very high tollerance for pain, but sometimes the old body injuries creep up on you, with just a minor faulty twist, and wham_you have to work out the kink. I prefer to work it out myself, rather than have a doctor work it out for me. If we know our bodies, we can keep them healthy. I have never been one to go to a doctor, and never even missed a minute of school for a dentists appointment. The dentist would open up early so I wouldn't miss out on any school. His secretary yelled at me one time, when I was scheduling an appointment. The dentist overheard her, and came out to scold HER, and told her to give me whatever time I wanted :o) When I worked in the office, I had so many sick days accumulated from not missing work, that I could take a half year on sick pay before going on short-term disability if anything would have happened Of course, I received nothing of that, when I stopped working, after getting married and moving away from my hometown. No, what would help my case is if manufacturers, and people would knock it off with the scent factor, and changing products all the time, with modern day processing methods. Wait and see_one day they will all of a sudden_after billions and billions of dollars of research (as they are starting to do now with cosmetics) discover that the 1,500 poisonous chemicals used in our everyday products really are the problems causing cancer, the rise in childhood asthma, severe migraines, and many other medical mysteries, and situations. Hope it is in my lifetime, so I can look folks in the eyes and just give 'em a little wink :o) LOL!!!!!! Oh, and yes, I had been to a chiropracter once in my lifetime, and he said I was a strong person, and very well put together. I know, I know_years can take that away, and probably have taken it away_but, if I can stay away from doctors, too, I'm better off. Sorry, if anyone is a doctor out there. Have a GREAT day!!! Hugs! :o) Lynn Trish wrote: > The benefit to chiropractic care is the release of the nerve impingements > we > all get > from every day living. I lived for years with an impingement that caused > my > breathing to be > more labored and my immune system to be compromised---which made the > asthma > I have > much worse. This eval is not from a chiropractor, but my pulmonologist who > did > not believe in chiropractic care. Similarly, it has been explained to me > that acupuncture can > do similar things for the system. I don't pretend to understand it all, I > have just seen the results > from regular work---on myself (chiropractic care) and others using both. > > I suggest it because I have seen people's lives affected, such as Lynn's, > to > the point where living > is difficult, or surgery and meds seem the only option and yet given a try > at something a little > less orthodox than traditional medicine, relieves symptoms and is worth a > try. > > I do have asthma triggered by various causes---cold weather, scents, mold > etc. It isn't fixed, but it > is much better and I have not had an attack bad enough to put me in > hospital > in over a decade. > > As to things not being alleviated except psychologically---most of us did > not start out > with asthma, and obviously, many have gotten worse as we age---does that > mean our > genes have "gotten worse" over the years? It suggests to me that whatever > we're doing in life > is contributing and compounding over time. Consistently slouching can > cause > a curvature of the > spine, that can continue to worsen if left as is. A straightening the > spine > can reverse that damage, > with some work over time---such as the treatment for scoliosis of bracing. > Chiropractic care can do similar > things over time. > > Interestingly, other than chiropractic care, regular checkups and having > asthma meds available > should I have an attack, I do not spend any money on any other medical > visits. I don't consider it a > waste---considering I and the insurance company don't spend any other > money > for other treatments. > I actually received a letter from the insurance company commending me for > utilizing chiropractic care > and decreasing their expenditure, lowering our premiums. > > Like I said, before I had a major back issue and was given really no other > option but expensive, debilitating > surgery and facing a life in a wheelchair even WITH the surgery---I too > was > a skeptic. I did not consider anything > other than traditional medicine until a friend suggested I see his > chiropractor. When it go bad enough I could > hardly breathe, I went. Disturbing that without trying it, you're > considering it a waste. Tell that to my gym mates > who see me on the treadmill 5 mornings a week and lifting weights. > > I'm not suggesting chiropractic care or acupuncture can relieve all > symptoms > of all things. Merely suggesting > that giving it a try when life is obviously SO affected every single day > that one cannot go out shopping more than > now and again---were I in that situation, I would want to find a solution > to > improve my life. If my suggestion helps someone > to try something that improves their life---then I'm all for it. I hate to > see people suffer if there is potentially another option. > > I'm not here to argue---just trying to help. > > T

    01/28/2009 05:51:15