I can just about guarantee it--just about everyone does!? I say "just about" because we get a few people who get cranky about the topics or the frequency just like any other list, but for the most part we're all very happy with the nature of this list.? It's unique, warm and fuzzy, and very educational! --Debra -----Original Message----- From: lllorensen@sbcglobal.net To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:46 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives Hi Debra I think I'm going to enjoy this :) Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <dorner1065@aol.com> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives > > And it looks like I've finally got a cousin of my own on the > list--welcome, Barb!? > > > > --Debra > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lllorensen@sbcglobal.net > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:40 am > Subject: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives > > > > > Hi everyone > I just joined this listing and WOW I already love it.. > No limits on what you ask , stories of lives and family and even town > birds.. I LOVE IT!! Thanks Rick.. > Barb from Missouri born in PA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

You are BRAVE people down there in Florida!!! Brave people. I know my cousin Loie says they see gators, when they go for walks, too. I'll settle for chipmunks, water rats and water snakes :o) That would be a walk at the Tully, in Glenside. Around here, I'll settle for the stray cats :o) Well, probably won't be on much after this, for the weekend. My friend from Glenside is coming down for a visit, and I must get ready. Have FUN, everyONE ;O) Lynn Tracy wrote, Lynn, It's true about the dogs (cats and little kids too). They get to the edge of the water and make noise, which attracts the 'gator. The neighbors around the corner said they put their fence up, not to keep the dog in but, to keep the 'gator out! My brother was out walking a few years back and saw a 'gator in the water. We live around a small "lake" (some say retention pond but deeds and maps call it a lake). When we go walking around out in the woods we usually take a handgun, just incase.

Awwwwwwww, what a heartwarming sort of story. I'll bet that hunter was so sorry that he shot what turned out to be someone's family pet :o( Yes, ditto on what Richard said. Thanks Karen, for the cute story, though they don't always end the way we wish they would, they are a part of our lives. :o) Lynn PS And, yes, Barb, as Jerilyn has mentioned, we love talking up food :o) But, I'm sure cuz Rick already told you all about that :o) Karen wrote the story of Rascal :o) :o( :o)

okay gang later tonight after work I'm going to share some of my favorite recipes with you all.. Now I don't do this for just anyone..But I love this group, then I hope some of you will share your favorite's with me.. Barb

I haven't been able to find a source for the idiom "blind as a bat". I know that some bats have an echolocation system that ebables them to avoid objects in flight; but that is not true sight. There is a species of bat that flies by vision. While both types can see; the latter type has a much more highly developed retina. The German idiom for extreme blindness is "blind (pronounced like wind) wie ein Maulwurfel" or "blind as a mole". Is there any question that moles are blind? After all, digging in the earth the way they do; they'd have to keep their eyes closed to keep out the dirt; so there's not much point in having eyes, now is there. Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] To get rid of a bat/bats aren't blind :o) > WOW!!!! Thanks Daniel. I knew they could, otherwise why do what I > explained Mike did. > So, Anna, was it you who had that sayings book, and where sayings came > from? > Where in the world did they get the saying: > Blind as a bat? > Thanks again, Daniel_though YUK!!!!!!!! > :o) > Lynn > Daniel wrote: > Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy > > Lynn wrote: > > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, > I > > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside > light, > > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > > get in. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think bats are worse than rats. Bats fly at you! Jerilyn "Bats drive me batty but they're better > than rats! " > Richard Emlin

A beautiful story, Karen. I wish it had had a happy ending. But we can console ourselves by picturing Rascal sitting on Nana's lap up in Heaven, having his belly scratched. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Fox" <karenmfox@verizon.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Animals in Our Homes > My late stepfather's parents always treated me & my siblings just as they > did their "real" blood grandchildren, even though I was a young adult when > they entered my life. They were old school Penna Dutch - the kind that > belonged to the grange, many social clubs and auxillaries, etc. They were > active with the Kutztown Folk Festival and attended every Fersommling. > Although they raised their family in the City of Reading, Poppop and Nana > were from old farm families outside Kutztown. Upon retirement, they bought > some land at the edge of the family farm from his brother and built a home > they retired to. > > Soon after they were out in the country again, Nana rescued a tiny raccoon > kit whose mother had been hit by a car in the road outside their home. She > brought it inside and nursed and hand raised it, naming him Rascal. No one > was surprised at her success with Rascal. He adored her and followed her > around like a puppy. He enjoyed sitting in her lap and having his belly > scratched. The basement was "raccoon proofed" and that was "his" space. He > was timid of strangers, so when visitors would come, he would run right > down to the basement. After a while, his curiosity would get the better of > him and you would see the door knob move and he'd poke his nose out to > investigate. Eventually if he determined there was no threat, he would > come out and greet everyone. He was so full of personality and never bit > or threatened anyone ever. > > One day my stepsister (who was about the same age as I) were up visiting > Nana. My stepsister was standing with her back to the basement door and > was startled when Rascal opened it from behind her and came out to join > us. She screamed and started running around the coffee table. Rascal > started chasing her, so she screamed more and ran faster. He kept looking > back and keeping up with her as they circled the table over and over. Nana > and i were laughing so hard we had tears in our eyes. We finally got my > stepsister to calm down and sit down. She said "but he was chasing me, I > thought he was going to attack me" (she knew better but was being > dramatic). We told her no, he figured if she was screaming that there was > something to be scared of so he was running after her for her to protect > him from the "bad" thing whatever it was. It was the funniest thing. > > Nana was a good cook and Rascal was no fool. He liked to hang in the > kitchen when she was cooking or baking, waiting for scraps that might fall > on the floor. He grew to be the biggest fattest raccoon I've ever seen. > Somewhere there is an old holiday card with a pic of Rascal sitting up on > his haunches next to a kitchen chair. He came about 3/4 of the way up the > chairback, he was that big. > > When Nana died we tucked a picture of her buddy Rascal and a little > ceramic raccoon figurine into her casket "to keep her company". Poor > Rascal was so lost. He would wander into the kitchen to get scraps and she > wouldn't be there. He'd crawl up and sit in her chair in teh living room, > but she wasn't there to scratch his belly. He had lost a lot of his > "spark" once Nana died. One day he slipped outside unnoticed, wandered > into the field next to their home and someone shot him and left him in the > field. It was small game season, so we figure it was probably a hunter who > didn't realize that he was a tamed pet (he wore a collar) until it was too > late. > > Karen from Berks Cawhnty > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Even better, I think, I could have said that you provided the bat with room and board. Richard Emlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Churchfield" <dctrk@c2i2.com> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Animals in our homes! Yikes it was a bat!! > Good one, Richard. I will have to remember that the bat got board. > > Thank you all for the warm welcome to the list. It is refreshing to see > a list that is designed for sharing experiences. > > As for my ties to PD, I have not been able to confirm that yet, but I > have been told there are ties. I have not been able to do much research > the last couple years because of some things we have had going on here, > but hope to be able to get more done in the near future. Sometime this > weekend I will send the names I am researching. I will also share some > of the funny experiences we had growing up in western PA. > > Don in AZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My late stepfather's parents always treated me & my siblings just as they did their "real" blood grandchildren, even though I was a young adult when they entered my life. They were old school Penna Dutch - the kind that belonged to the grange, many social clubs and auxillaries, etc. They were active with the Kutztown Folk Festival and attended every Fersommling. Although they raised their family in the City of Reading, Poppop and Nana were from old farm families outside Kutztown. Upon retirement, they bought some land at the edge of the family farm from his brother and built a home they retired to. Soon after they were out in the country again, Nana rescued a tiny raccoon kit whose mother had been hit by a car in the road outside their home. She brought it inside and nursed and hand raised it, naming him Rascal. No one was surprised at her success with Rascal. He adored her and followed her around like a puppy. He enjoyed sitting in her lap and having his belly scratched. The basement was "raccoon proofed" and that was "his" space. He was timid of strangers, so when visitors would come, he would run right down to the basement. After a while, his curiosity would get the better of him and you would see the door knob move and he'd poke his nose out to investigate. Eventually if he determined there was no threat, he would come out and greet everyone. He was so full of personality and never bit or threatened anyone ever. One day my stepsister (who was about the same age as I) were up visiting Nana. My stepsister was standing with her back to the basement door and was startled when Rascal opened it from behind her and came out to join us. She screamed and started running around the coffee table. Rascal started chasing her, so she screamed more and ran faster. He kept looking back and keeping up with her as they circled the table over and over. Nana and i were laughing so hard we had tears in our eyes. We finally got my stepsister to calm down and sit down. She said "but he was chasing me, I thought he was going to attack me" (she knew better but was being dramatic). We told her no, he figured if she was screaming that there was something to be scared of so he was running after her for her to protect him from the "bad" thing whatever it was. It was the funniest thing. Nana was a good cook and Rascal was no fool. He liked to hang in the kitchen when she was cooking or baking, waiting for scraps that might fall on the floor. He grew to be the biggest fattest raccoon I've ever seen. Somewhere there is an old holiday card with a pic of Rascal sitting up on his haunches next to a kitchen chair. He came about 3/4 of the way up the chairback, he was that big. When Nana died we tucked a picture of her buddy Rascal and a little ceramic raccoon figurine into her casket "to keep her company". Poor Rascal was so lost. He would wander into the kitchen to get scraps and she wouldn't be there. He'd crawl up and sit in her chair in teh living room, but she wasn't there to scratch his belly. He had lost a lot of his "spark" once Nana died. One day he slipped outside unnoticed, wandered into the field next to their home and someone shot him and left him in the field. It was small game season, so we figure it was probably a hunter who didn't realize that he was a tamed pet (he wore a collar) until it was too late. Karen from Berks Cawhnty

My sister ask me for a recipe for Ginger drop cookies and I got several ...Yes Richard answered it for me.. Hey you can't beat Pa recipes. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <thos@comcast.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives > Barb, > We love recipes!If you want to get us chatting,bring up a topic concerning > food.Right ,Lynn? > What recipe were you looking for?Did Richard get it answered for you? > Jerilyn > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jerilyn First I'm related to Henderson's in Bolivar, Pa My mother's sister Virginia Margaret Short married Cecil Wendel Henderson.. any relation? I was born in Tarentum, Pa now live in Missouri for the past 30 years.. Glad to meet you and everyone else. and also glad to see a cousin on mine Debra Owner :) on line here. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <thos@comcast.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives > Welcome Barb! > We are really rolling this week.Two new members to get to know.We are > blessed. >>From where do you hail Barb? > Jerilyn Gainsford Henderson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn et al, "Blind as a bat" is an old wives tale. I like bats as they are VERY helful in controlling the mosquito population. Years ago I collected bats from PA to Alaska for bat researchers ay PSU. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] To get rid of a bat/bats aren't blind :o) > WOW!!!! Thanks Daniel. I knew they could, otherwise why do what I > explained Mike did. > So, Anna, was it you who had that sayings book, and where sayings came > from? > Where in the world did they get the saying: > Blind as a bat? > Thanks again, Daniel_though YUK!!!!!!!! > :o) > Lynn > Daniel wrote: > Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy > > Lynn wrote: > > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, > I > > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside > light, > > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > > get in. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

--- Cathy wrote: > Well, i certainly hope not, I see one often, but have in the afternoons, along our back fence. If so, I guess I should go > inside if I do! > > > [Original Message] > > From: Rick B > > The conventional wisdom around here says that if you see a raccoon > out during the day, it's probably sick. Not true? > > --Debra > > -------------------- > > True. If you see one roaming around in the daytime they're > probably rabid. ********************* Question: Aren't racoons adaptable? Which is if it was used to being out forageing in the afternoon, it is normal and not rabid? If it is seen daily and "acting" normal it should be okay, but if not sure I would call animal control about picking it up. tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

--- Richard Emlin wrote: > I hadn't thought about my reaction to an assault by the alligator > upon my patio. Usually I sit there, reading, secure in the knowledge that alligators are afraid of humans. I don't know whether the alligator's hunger for my cat would exceed his fear of me. My wife appears to think that my presence would dissuade the 'gator from attacking the cat. Does a charging alligator roar? > If he does, I suppose, upon hearing his approach, I would grab the > cat, who is old and fat and, therefore, not too agile, and head for the door. > I assure you that I would break the ten-foot speed record for > nonagenarians. > My wife wouldn't have time to activate the video recorder. Anyway, we > don't have one. }:-) ********************** LOL! Oh my goodness, I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Yes, 'gators roar. Not sure when exactly, but they do. I believe they also "bark". Poor fat and non-agile, old cat. I'm afraid if it was mine it would be the appetizer! I'm old, fat and not too agile myself! lol tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

WOW!!!! Thanks Daniel. I knew they could, otherwise why do what I explained Mike did. So, Anna, was it you who had that sayings book, and where sayings came from? Where in the world did they get the saying: Blind as a bat? Thanks again, Daniel_though YUK!!!!!!!! :o) Lynn Daniel wrote: Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy Lynn wrote: > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > get in.

And it looks like I've finally got a cousin of my own on the list--welcome, Barb!? --Debra -----Original Message----- From: lllorensen@sbcglobal.net To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:40 am Subject: [PD-LIFE] The Stories of Our Lives Hi everyone I just joined this listing and WOW I already love it.. No limits on what you ask , stories of lives and family and even town birds.. I LOVE IT!! Thanks Rick.. Barb from Missouri born in PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

--- Lynn wrote: > Oh Richard!!!!! I was laughing :o) > Oh, and the part about your backyard and the alligator, I'm with your > wife on that one!!!! I wouldn't want the cat out at ALL. Having > them that close, doesn't that kinda scare you? Aren't you afraid > you'll be visited INSIDE the house someday. > Is it true about what they say about alligators eating dogs? and you > have to always watch out for that? I guess you get use to it, huh? ******************************* I got a chuckle out of it too, as my husband bow hunts. *grin* Lynn, It's true about the dogs (cats and little kids too). They get to the edge of the water and make noise, which attracts the 'gator. The neighbors around the corner said they put their fence up, not to keep the dog in but, to keep the 'gator out! My brother was out walking a few years back and saw a 'gator in the water. We live around a small "lake" (some say retention pond but deeds and maps call it a lake). When we go walking around out in the woods we usually take a handgun, just incase. tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

Hi Barb!!! WELCOME, once again, to yet another new member!!!! How did you all find out about this GREAT list? :o) Lynn Barb wrote: Hi everyone I just joined this listing and WOW I already love it.. No limits on what you ask , stories of lives and family and even town birds.. I LOVE IT!! Thanks Rick..

Lynn et all, Bats can sure see. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Anatomy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Animals in our homes! Yikes it was a bat!! > If you want a bat to go outside, you have to make it dark inside (why, I > don't know, because I heard bats are blind), and turn on an outside light, > then they most likely will fly out, at least they do here, IF they EVER > get in. We've only had one once, and that time I thought our house was > haunted, because my fan chain, in the kitchen ceiling fan, kept going > round and round and round, faster and faster and the fan wasn't on, so I > knew it wasn't that making it go round. It was a bat making a > "Wirbelwind" out there. Of course, I told Mike to handle it, there was no > way I was going out there to take care of getting it out of the house. > We had one where I worked one time. Someone had trapped it in an upside > down trash can. Everytime someone walked passed, they would go to upright > the trash can and one of us would yell at them. I'm not sure if us > yelling at them scared them, or the fact that there was a bat under it, > that scared them_but wish video cameras were poplular back then. It wa a > riot until maintenance came and took care of it. Of course, non of us > wanted it killed :o) They are so ugly they are cute :o) > Lynn > > > Debra wrote: > Ick.? I mean, I appreciate them going around doing useful stuff like > eating up all the bugs and pollinating the plants and everything, but I > will never forget how creeped out I was by that thing flying past my > head.? And they are really NOT cute AT ALL. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GREAT, can't wait! Don! And, Richard, I'm going to try to remember to tell my Uncle Milt all these_he'll have a blast with them. Thanks! :o) Lynn Don in AZ wrote: Sometime this weekend I will send the names I am researching. I will also share some of the funny experiences we had growing up in western PA.