"Keep Looking Up!".... the signature closing line of Jack Horkheimer's originally named "Star Hustler" and now renamed "Star Gazer" program on PBS. Just a bit of trivia... Wonder why the show was renamed? Because of the Internet of course! When people, especially children, began accessing the Star Hustler site by using a search engine, STAR HUSTLER was not the HUSTLER they got to link to...so, after some upset folks wrote to them calling attention to the situation they realized that like it or not, the word Hustler didn't have the same connotation as it did when the show began over two decades ago. I'm old and set in my ways, so it will always be "Star Hustler" to me. The light show we saw last night was due to a passing thunderstorm, so no meteor shower for me. I remember when I was a kid, my friends and I would all spawl out at the picnic table in the backyard watching the annual meteor shower. Some years it looked like the sky was falling and the end of the world was nigh! These days I live in the suburbs and even without the thunderstorm...if we would have had a clear cloudless new moon night, I still wouldn't have seen much. Most of the neighbors have motion security lights installed and most are at a setting so that they will turn on if a firefly flits by. Talk about light pollution! Karen from Berks

I stayed up until 12:45, then woke up again at 2AM, and said "forget it:!" though I really wanted to go out, I didn't want to disturb Lexus, so I just turned the TV back on, and got tired again at about 3AM. Woke up again at 4:15AM and figured it was over with :o( Supposedly we had a clear night for viewing here in Lancaster County, but I wouldn't know :o) Anyone from here, who can say they actually saw the sights? :o) Lynn Linda wrote: I stayed up to see the sky at 1:00.....but, there is nothing to be seen....it is raining!!!!! too many clouds up there!!!

Well, I'm glad they were box turtles then. But, they had beakish looking upper lips, with a point, so I just assumed they were snappers. Oops, that's my knowledge of turtles!!! :o) LOL!!!! I still think they are cute :o) I don't see a link? Thanks Jane! Lynn Jane wrote: Those were probably box turtles. I have ridden in the car lots of times with one we rescued from the road to bring home to the garden in hopes that it will eat slugs and such. Most snapping turtles are really big - those we have gotten out of our ponds were sometimes almost 18 inches long. You wouldn't have wanted to flip one of those over because you would have risked losing a finger or toe. They are definitely nasty creatures. They bite right through the heaviest fish hook we can find to try and catch them. We have had lots of pets over the years including farm animals. The only ones we ate were chickens, though most of them were for eggs. I've got pictures of some of our pets on our website. The link is under my signature. Just scroll down to where you can click on photo gallery and then go to the kitty pictures. There are lots more than cats there. Hope you enjoy them. Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> wrote: I'm sure they enjoy that!!! When I lived in Mohnton, we would go to an out of the way place to buy our flowers. Every year we would find a large turtle upside down in the middle of the road, stop the car, get out and upright it over at the side where it was headed. But, there were some that didn't make it without getting hit. They are so cute, I couldn't eat one. But, then again, cows are cute, and pigs are cute and I can eat that meat, only if it's from the store :o) and I don't know it's parents :o) Barb wrote: I have a shell of a small one that I use for my daycare. All the kids even my own used it as share time in preschool.. :)

Barb, A Christmas time I put two little pine cones tied with red & green ribbon on my serving plate ...just adds a bit of fancy. So glad you tried my suggestion Pat ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

Sounds like a Dr. Seuss thing I heard once upon a time ;o) Lynn Mary submitted: "If a goose and a goose both add up to geese, Why doesn't the same rule apply to moose/meese? If a mouse becomes mice, and a louse turns to lice, Why doesn't it follow that house becomes hice? If Dad can be Papa and Mom is the Momma, Then why isn't Brad Brapa and Tom now called Tomma? Because, my Dear One, it is never a breeze When learning the language American-eze."

We get that at the Mennonite market I go to a few little towns over. It is DE-LI-CIOUS!!!!! And Elderberry anything is good for you, too. My husband takes Sambucol (Elderberry Syrup) every single morning, and being the sickly person he CAN be, he hasn't had a BAD cold ever since he started this :o) Lynn Don wrote: Wow, I haven't had elderberry jelly in a long time! Mother used to make it every year.

And the prettiest pantry sights for sure :o) Thanks Anna. I'll have to check that out on the package :o) Lynn Anna wrote: I use the recipes provided on the Sure-Jell package; they never fail. I made elderberry jelly last week, red raspberry jelly and strawberry jam earlier this year. I missed black caps (black raspberries) and blackberries though, and mulberries. I have not spotted them in the wild since moving here. I am a peasant at heart! Colorful jars of jam or jelly make the most welcome gifts.

Thanks, Joan. I remember that from going to the Star Gazers' at Sam Lewis Park a few years ago. It was a gorgeous night that night. Clear skies, only that one tiny light off in the distance, lots of beautiful sights!!! Lots of telescopes pointed at the different stars and planets. I could be a Star Gazer easily, if I could be around a lot of people. To go there by my self would be too dangerous in this day and age. But, if anyone is in the York County area, and you want to see the stars, go to the big hill at Sam Lewis Park, and you'll see a beautiful sight on a clear night. :o) Lynn PS Yes, the light does polute the sky in many areas. I loved to watch the sky down on the farm before "Grammom" had the flood light put in, after "Grampop" passes away. It was as though you could touch the stars!!! Joan wrote: I'm not sure exactly where in the sky Jupiter is at the moment but the most fascinating "cluster" in the sky in my opinion is The Pleiades or "Seven Sisters." They form the shoulder of Taurus the Bull. The most interesting thing about this "cluster" is that when you look at them straight on you don't see them as clearly as you do if you look slightly off center using your peripheral vision. It is kind of an eye test to try that. <g>

Yes, I knew Alligators were in Florida :o) and in teaching preschool, I taught about the shape of their "noses", but we didn't get into WHERE they were located. From all the recent talk of Florida Alligators, I knew you had them there. I was asking if there were any Crocs in Florida. Richard Emlin Reed answered my question very cleverly :o) LOL!!!!!! But, thanks Cathy :o) Lynn Cathy wrote: Alligators are in FL. You know the ones with the flat nose, versus crocs that have the more narrow nose.

Gotcha!!! I actually understood that :o) LOL!!!! Oh my!!! That's a good one, Richard!!! Richard Emlin Reed wrote: Any crocs in FL are illegal aliengators.

That bowled me over -- I never thought of turtles having compassion. Wow, thanks for the education. Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Brannon Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:00 AM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Turtles Okay, this is getting too graphic. Eeeewe! The chicken thing was the last straw. I don't dare open any more list e-mail for a while. I have 5 pet turtles, most of which have been rescued. I would never dream of harming an animal. A while ago when one of my turtles got sick, another one kept pacing back and forth with a piece of food in its mouth and was trying to feed and nurse the sick one back to health. They have such amazing personalities. Last week Lucky was acting a bit sluggish, and the others took turns comforting him and lifting him to the surface of the water, for air and food. He is fine now. He is named Lucky because my friend's daughter saw him in a parking lot, about to get run over, (he was only a couple inches long) and she flagged down the driver and saved the poor little guy, knowing I would take care of him. Fortunately, nobody has to die for us to eat. The earth is full of wonderful, healthful foods that don't require death of animals and critters, and those foods extend our lives instead of shortening them. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is an area in southern Arizona with a light-free zone. Our Arizona friends may know the vicinity. The night sky was a wonder as youngsters; it has become so bright that it is difficult to discern so many pleasures of the darkness. Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of twerppy@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:01 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Keep Looking Up! Not really, Richard.? It is the lack of total darkness we have lost due to all the reflections of street lights, etc.?It is?hard to find a totally dark area anymore.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Richard Emlin Reed <remlinr@tampabay.rr.com> To: Richard Berkheiser <reberkheiser@earthlink.net>; padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Keep Looking Up! I'm astronomished by your astronomical knowledge; but where do you see them. When I was a boy, I would lie in the grass, look up at the sky, and see zillions of stars. Now I am lucky to see half a dozen. Has global warming destroyed celestial swarming? Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Berkheiser" <reberkheiser@earthlink.net> To: <PADUTCH-LIFE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Keep Looking Up! > Hi again everyone! > > For those of you that are into star gazing, there's plenty to see in the > night sky this month. > > Towards the south, the Planet Jupiter dominates near Scorpius, and in a > decent pair of binoculars you can even make out one of Jupiter's moons. > Last night around 10:40 PM, the Red Spot made its transit. It was > viewable through a small telescope. The "heart" of Scorpius shines bright > red as Antares twinkles away. > > August is also the best month to see meteor showers. Most notably the > Perseids Meteor Shower. While looking up, don't forget to look for St. > Lawrence's Tears. > > Lots to see up there! > > Rick B > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use the recipes provided on the Sure-Jell package; they never fail. I made elderberry jelly last week, red raspberry jelly and strawberry jam earlier this year. I missed black caps (black raspberries) and blackberries though, and mulberries. I have not spotted them in the wild since moving here. I am a peasant at heart! Colorful jars of jam or jelly make the most welcome gifts. Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of twerppy@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:34 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Peaches Oh, yes, please on the jam and pies, too.? I love peaches and with daughter coming from MA with gson, we will need to go to Brown's and stock up.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Peaches I am absolutely jealous!!!!! So, it's peach season, is it? Well, on my travels, I will have to stop at Flinchbaugh's, in Eastern York County, to see what they have!!! That sounds sooooooo good!!!! Recipe for your jam, please? If it's not a family secret :O) Thanks! Lynn Anna wrote: Today three of my sisters went with me to a peach orchard where we picked and picked up from the ground, a bushel of peaches in just 25 minutes.and there were so many to be had! Jam and pies tomorrow! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

About 33 years ago while living in Maine, my hubby and I experienced the Perseids or "Old Faithfuls" as the Maniacs call them. Wed were out for a night time stroll and heard whistling in the sky and say a shooting star then another and another. We just sat down in the field watched and counted. In 40 minutes we counted 102! It was spectacular! We live in Metro Atlanta now and the lights of the city and surrounding communities make it impossible to see them anymore. We both have very fond memories of that night. Pat ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/

Wow, I haven't had elderberry jelly in a long time! Mother used to make it every year. Don

Sherry, thank you for the kind words, and I agree with you about the stars south of Flagstaff. Last month we spent a week in Sedona, and that is beautiful country. We will be going to spend a week in Payson in November, looking forward to that. Don

Does anyone remember of or know anyone who would reach down with their bare hands into the ponds or mud to catch a snapping turtle in PA I worked in a Restaurant/Bar and some of men would bring in a snapper that they hand caught.. I was amazed they would do that and not lose a hand, they were reaching in blind.. NO WAY would I do that I don't even get that close to a snapper they are really nasty turtle's... they are good eating and when caught the men would sell them to restaurants.. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Unger" <janielou13@yahoo.com> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Snapping Turtles :o) > Those were probably box turtles. I have ridden in the car lots of times > with one we rescued from the road to bring home to the garden in hopes > that it will eat slugs and such. Most snapping turtles are really big - > those we have gotten out of our ponds were sometimes almost 18 inches > long. You wouldn't have wanted to flip one of those over because you > would have risked losing a finger or toe. They are definitely nasty > creatures. They bite right through the heaviest fish hook we can find to > try and catch them. > > We have had lots of pets over the years including farm animals. The only > ones we ate were chickens, though most of them were for eggs. I've got > pictures of some of our pets on our website. The link is under my > signature. Just scroll down to where you can click on photo gallery and > then go to the kitty pictures. There are lots more than cats there. Hope > you enjoy them. > Jane > > Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> wrote: > I'm sure they enjoy that!!! > When I lived in Mohnton, we would go to an out of the way place to buy our > flowers. Every year we would find a large turtle upside down in the middle > of the road, stop the car, get out and upright it over at the side where > it was headed. But, there were some that didn't make it without getting > hit. They are so cute, I couldn't eat one. But, then again, cows are cute, > and pigs are cute and I can eat that meat, only if it's from the store :o) > and I don't know it's parents :o) > Lynn > > Barb wrote: > I have a shell of a small one that I use for my daycare. All the kids even > my own used it as share time in preschool.. :) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"If a goose and a goose both add up to geese, Why doesn't the same rule apply to moose/meese? If a mouse becomes mice, and a louse turns to lice, Why doesn't it follow that house becomes hice? If Dad can be Papa and Mom is the Momma, Then why isn't Brad Brapa and Tom now called Tomma? Because, my Dear One, it is never a breeze When learning the language American-eze." It's Five O'clock in the Morning (sounds like a song title to me) so what more do you want at this hour??!!!! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Emlin Reed To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hunting and Eating it My Pop never hunted and neither did I. Uncle Charlie used to give my Mom a rabbit or two now and then, and, sometimes, a venison roast. She would do something to eliminate the "wild taste". Marinate it, I think. She used to refer to tallow; I just looked it up and, sure enough, there is tallow in a deer's fat. By the way, if a goose and a goose are geese; why aren't a moose and a moose meese? And if more than one bear are bears; why aren't more than one deer deers? Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Hunting and Eating it >I definitely wouldn't have made a good hunter's wife_FOR SURE!!!!!! > Our neighbors, across the street, hunt as a family, and always get deer > and other kinds of animals, during all the hunting seasons. They never > have to buy meat. > Dear burger is so good, but I've never had it any other way except in > burger form. Now I've had Moose, and that needs to be soaked overnight, > to get the wildness out of it_well, most of the wildness anyway. > Do these other animals you are all talking about have a wildness about > them? > :o) > Lynn > PS Now Richard Emlin Reed, I know your gears are rolling on that question > already :o) LOL!!!!! > Barb wrote: > > Yes cleaning then is a pain but its worth it.. BUT I'm getting to old to > do > it now.. > When we moved to MO I showed a friend how to clean a Turtle she then > floured > it and fried it.. It was okay but the soup was better.. I also showed her > how to clean Deer meat once the guys skinned it, NOW she is an expert!! > :) > My family men are great at hunting and fishing..they bow hunt, and gun > hunt > and they fish a lot so we always have lots of deer to share with our > neighbors.. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I stayed up to see the sky at 1:00.....but, there is nothing to be seen....it is raining!!!!! too many clouds up there!!! ~~~Linda~~~

Okay, this is getting too graphic. Eeeewe! The chicken thing was the last straw. I don't dare open any more list e-mail for a while. I have 5 pet turtles, most of which have been rescued. I would never dream of harming an animal. A while ago when one of my turtles got sick, another one kept pacing back and forth with a piece of food in its mouth and was trying to feed and nurse the sick one back to health. They have such amazing personalities. Last week Lucky was acting a bit sluggish, and the others took turns comforting him and lifting him to the surface of the water, for air and food. He is fine now. He is named Lucky because my friend's daughter saw him in a parking lot, about to get run over, (he was only a couple inches long) and she flagged down the driver and saved the poor little guy, knowing I would take care of him. Fortunately, nobody has to die for us to eat. The earth is full of wonderful, healthful foods that don't require death of animals and critters, and those foods extend our lives instead of shortening them.