Hi Cathy, Just a hunch, but when I said 'Efftla' out loud, the first thing that came to mind is that it was Esther and whoever wrote the obit either had a very bad typo or didn't understand the accent and wrote what they thought they "heard". Kind of how we come across all those crazy misspellings in the census records. ~Karen from Berks.

Yes, my dear old (very cheap at the time, since the microwaves have come down in price) Gold Star lasted over 20 years_but, these new things, even the Gold Stars of today, just don't seem to last. Maybe I'm too clean with my appliances? The worst of them was the very expensive Panasonic. I was very disappointed in that one. For the very small appliances, when I was a young adult, everytime I would clean them, they were guarenteed not to work anymore. I'm almost afraid to get a new mixer. I haven't used Mom's old Sunbeam, except once, in so long a time, I don't want to break it. It doesn't do the kind of mixing I need these days, like cookie dough, or bread dough (I like kneading by hand, though), and I like mixing my cookie dough by hand_but my arm gets really bad when I do these things anymore. I must tell you, Debra, that Mike kept saying, yes, yes, yes, and you left him laughing, because it's the same story you would trade with him :o) LOL!!!!! The etiquette is still alive in Maytown, at the circle there. Of course it is still very Mom and Pop as far as I can tell, when I travel to the Vet's office. I've never had a problem with it, but then again :o) ......... Thanks for the laugh from Mike, this morning :o) He related to your driving story all the way!!! Well, better start getting ready for Storytime at the home!! Then get back to making my mother-in-law's birthday dinner for tomorrow. :o) Lynn Debra wrote: Oh, Mike and I could trade some stories!!? We seem to have exactly the same kind of luck.? I totally sympathize!? My absolute favorites are the people who chug along at least 10 mph below the speed limit, but then suddenly find their gas pedal just in time to speed through a changing red light, but not fast enough for me to get through, too.??Or the people who pull out in front of you at 90 mph only to go 10 mph once they are actually on the road, and then turn left 20 feet later, and of course you have to wait for a parade of 9000 cars to go by before the person can turn left......and this is becoming a dangerous train of thought. But speaking of --one other thing from today:? there were some appalling breaches of etiquette going on at the town circles today!!? I thought everyone understood the system for taking your turn.? I have never seen this happen on this scale before--I don't know if all the inconsiderate people arrived at the same time or if it was just a large bunch of people who had never seen a circle before and genuinely didn't know what to do.? Either way--very annoying! On the microwave note, your story below made me realize my parents are still on the first and only microwave they ever bought.? I have no idea how old that thing is!? It has got to be about 25 years old--I'll have to ask them!? But then they have extremely good luck with appliances--they'll be married 40 years in September and are only on their second refrigerator.

Plummer are the ones that go back to the Prince Georges County, MD, Sheila, not any that you mentioned in the emails sent in last couple of days. Sorry, but we'll keep trying! Thanks for emailing though. Ya just never know, what you can share! Cathy -----Original Message----- >From: Sheila Kline <sheilakline47@yahoo.com> >Sent: Aug 11, 2007 2:39 PM >To: PaDutch-Life@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PD-LIFE] SHEILA's FAMILY NAMES > >Just wanted to throw out my family names to see if I can link up with any of you...there are a lot as in every family but the main ones are: > > BOWYER (BOYER) (BOWERS)...supposedly English not German > RATLIFF(RATCLIFF) (English) > BROOKS > DOWDY > CARTER > ALLEN > TAYLOR (back to President Zachary Taylor) > SHUCK (SHOUGH) > TUTWILLER (TEDWILLER) & OTHER VARIANTS > FLEISHMAN > DESKINS > CLAYPOOL (CLAYPOOLE) (CLEYPOLE) Claypool was the first family to settle west of the Applachian Mountains in Hardy County, VA, also led Claypool's Rebellion in VA > ARBAUGH > OSBORN (OSBORNE) > GLENN & POSSIBLY YOUNG WITH THE GLENN, BUT NOT PROVEN. > WHITE...BACK TO ABEDNEGO WHITE OF PRINCE WILLIAM, MD. > > If anyone has any of these names in your line, please let me know. I am also trying to find information about Sir Edmond Bowyer, was part of The London Company that funded the Jamestown Settlement and came to America with Capt. Smith. We cannot link Sir Edmond for about 3 or 4 generations to Michael Bowyer who married Frances Kate Carpenter, and who was the original land owner for the property where The Greenbrier Resort is located. There was a Bowyer's Tavern there, and Michael Bowyer, Jr. is noted as being a descendant of Sir Edmond, but we cannot make the connections of Sir Edmond to his father, Michael Bowyer. There is also a Philip Bowyer in Dunsmore, VA married to Elizabeth ? and we cannot find info about him other than the fact that he and Elizabeth, on some of the records were listed as Bowers. A real mystery about my Bowyers! Any suggestions, help, etc. greatly appreciated!! > > Sheila in WV....looking for cousins! > > >--------------------------------- >Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Doing Names: Brothers, Cain, Coleman, Davis, Embree, McKain, McKinnon, Merriman, Palmer, Plummer, Raber, Stevens, Wright

Well, I know when I went over to the Laural Mountains, I caught I-79 right outside of Pittsburgh & had a nice trip over to I-70 to Rt. 31. It was a good 3 1/2 hours! And only 2 1/2 hours coming back somehow, but it was a beautiful day too! Or maybe it just seemed to take less time. And the plus was I got home before dark. My daughter sure was glad to eat! Driving takes allot out of ya, doesn't it! I always wanted to travel as an occupation, but it'd be harder than I thought! This trip I drove the most I ever have had to do, but at least I picked a good time to do it!! Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/17/2007 7:33:35 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride/Road Trip > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dorner1065@aol.com > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride/Road Trip > > > Yes, around the time you wrote that I was well on my way to Lancaster, and I am just now returned from a very nice day on the road! > > I left here at about 6:15 or so, figuring on about a 3.5 hour trip.? Well, I was off by about 30 minutes!!? There was approximately 30 feet of road surface on my route that is not currently under construction.? And holy freaking cow--did I completely forget about the congestion on Route 30 between York and Lancaster!!? > > (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) > > What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. > > But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. > > I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home. > > Driving Route 30 is always one of my favorite things to do, and with the exception of that stretch between Lancaster and York, it was a great trip. > > Once you get on the other side of Chambersburg, Route 30 is just about sheer bliss the whole way to Greensburg, where it gets congested again. > > But between Chambersburg and Greensburg, it's nothing but gloriously rural, verdant, rolling Pennsylvania hills?and the open road, which is nicely challenging to drive!? The section between Bedford and Ligonier is especially great, but unfortunately I pretty much have to invent a reason to drive it :o( > > --Debra? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Keiper <jdkjak@webtv.net> > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 8:05 am > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride > > > > thanks debra for the back ground info on the bikers travelling on route > 30 by pass > just below our house and garden. > > as we write, you are probably tooling toward lancaster county. the cold > front that was to have brought us some relief this morning will arrive > toward noon. > > shazam & HAPPY MOTORING > > John & Joyce Keiper > >From the "situation room", Bedford, Penna. 15522 > at: coventry cottage > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM

Oh, Mike and I could trade some stories!!? We seem to have exactly the same kind of luck.? I totally sympathize!? My absolute favorites are the people who chug along at least 10 mph below the speed limit, but then suddenly find their gas pedal just in time to speed through a changing red light, but not fast enough for me to get through, too.??Or the people who pull out in front of you at 90 mph only to go 10 mph once they are actually on the road, and then turn left 20 feet later, and of course you have to wait for a parade of 9000 cars to go by before the person can turn left......and this is becoming a dangerous train of thought. But speaking of --one other thing from today:? there were some appalling breaches of etiquette going on at the town circles today!!? I thought everyone understood the system for taking your turn.? I have never seen this happen on this scale before--I don't know if all the inconsiderate people arrived at the same time or if it was just a large bunch of people who had never seen a circle before and genuinely didn't know what to do.? Either way--very annoying! On the microwave note, your story below made me realize my parents are still on the first and only microwave they ever bought.? I have no idea how old that thing is!? It has got to be about 25 years old--I'll have to ask them!? But then they have extremely good luck with appliances--they'll be married 40 years in September and are only on their second refrigerator. --Debra -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:22 pm Subject: [PD-LIFE] Microwaves and Road Trips I tried to get Mike to take that road to work, because of him complaining a lot about Rt. 30. I said it's better on the nerves to take that road. So, one day he tried it, and sure enough he got behind someone going 25 miles an hour :o) I never have that_I always have smooth sailing on that road. Seems everytime we went to eat at Eat 'n Park on the East side of York, WITH MIKE DRIVING, a VERY slow, slow driver, constantly on the brake for no reason at all except maybe fluffing hair, or talking on a cell phone would get in front of us, and stay there all the way to the place where we could finally pass. When I drive, he warns me that at this exit or that road it's very bad driving and you can never get over easily, or you get behind the slow drivers_but, remember, I'm driving, and the roadway opens up, with hardly anyone on it, and I get over, or through, with ease :o) He gets so funny then, and says something about it's because I'm driving and he isn't_! and can't believe it was a breeze for me, and why does it always have to be when he is driving that we get all the weird drivers around us. Well, when you got it, you got it, as the saying goes. :o) Lynn Debra wrote: I don't blame you for buying the cheap microwaves--I can't believe you've had to buy that many!? But that sure was an impressive storm--so weird how it seemed to be centered over Lancaster.? The roads were completely dry on the other side of town. I have to give Weather.com credit for nailing that one--they called for a t-storm in Lancaster at 1:00, and that's exactly what happened! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I got your messages (2?), but don't think that your related unless you have Western PA (Beaver County, PA connections for Ward, Brooks (Brookes, not sure which ones). Taylor, Wards would be Howard Taylor of east Liverpool (East end). Wrights would be John D. Wright, Robert? Wright JOhn Wright of Beaver Co, PA area, perhaps East Liverpool too! I'm having some problems with my mailbox, it's full to capacity right now, but keep trying. I'm working on the problem. I've really enjoyed your posts so far, so keep it going!! Thanks, Cathy -----Original Message----- >From: Sheila Kline <sheilakline47@yahoo.com> >Sent: Aug 17, 2007 10:27 PM >To: PaDutch-Life@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PD-LIFE] MESSAGE FOR CATHY RABER/SURNAMES > >Hi Cathy....I read your post earlier, and I replied to your email in the message since I have Wards, and Wrights in my genealogy. I have gotten a message back about it possibly being spam, and I tried to fill out the form, but that was blocked to. > > Please repond on this board, if you wish. I have a Caroline Penelope Ward and the line goes back to Whites from the areas you mentioned. What are the names of some of your Wards and Wrights? > > Thanks! > > Sheila Kline in WV > > >--------------------------------- >Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Doing Names: Brothers, Cain, Coleman, Davis, Embree, McKain, McKinnon, Merriman, Palmer, Plummer, Raber, Stevens, Wright

Yes, I believe they have a special timer inside, and once you set the clock, and have it running, it times am and pm, until it has 365 plus 1 week of days covered, then it blows, because they all lasted exactly a year and a day, with the exception of one which only lasted 6 months but Mike lost the paperwork for it, so that was a loss, and this last one, which lasted a year and a half...hey, it was better than the rest. I keep the paperwork now, and they last, as I said, 1 year a 1 week, most times. Once my old, cheapo Gold Star, that I got from K-mart 20 some years ago, went, I haven't had any luck with microwaves. When I think about it, that one didn't have a clock. Hmmmmm!!!! Now, I have a thought :o) Maybe I shouldn't set the clock, then it won't know how many days have past :o) We had completely dry roads, also, but the thunder and lightning was right NEAR us, NEAR enough to do my micro in, and surge quite a few times. Oh, as for 462. I tried to get Mike to take that road to work, because of him complaining a lot about Rt. 30. I said it's better on the nerves to take that road. So, one day he tried it, and sure enough he got behind someone going 25 miles an hour :o) I never have that_I always have smooth sailing on that road. Seems everytime we went to eat at Eat 'n Park on the East side of York, WITH MIKE DRIVING, a VERY slow, slow driver, constantly on the brake for no reason at all except maybe fluffing hair, or talking on a cell phone would get in front of us, and stay there all the way to the place where we could finally pass. When I drive, he warns me that at this exit or that road it's very bad driving and you can never get over easily, or you get behind the slow drivers_but, remember, I'm driving, and the roadway opens up, with hardly anyone on it, and I get over, or through, with ease :o) He gets so funny then, and says something about it's because I'm driving and he isn't_and can't believe it was a breeze for me, and why does it always have to be when he is driving that we get all the weird drivers around us. Well, when you got it, you got it, as the saying goes. :o) Lynn Debra wrote: I don't blame you for buying the cheap microwaves--I can't believe you've had to buy that many!? But that sure was an impressive storm--so weird how it seemed to be centered over Lancaster.? The roads were completely dry on the other side of town. I have to give Weather.com credit for nailing that one--they called for a t-storm in Lancaster at 1:00, and that's exactly what happened!

Hi Cathy. To the best of my knowledge, Stella is a German, English, and Italian name. Estelle is French; and Estrella is Spanish. I am unfamiliar with Efftla. I asked Google and got two hits, neither of which had any significance. Raber is a German name. I'm not sure about Reeher. Reher, perhaps? Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Raber" <pigeonrock@earthlink.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > Herr Reed, > > Is there a German spelling for Stella (is this a German > name?) spelled Efftla? A German spelling perhaps? I've gotten a relative > that has this in an obituary, & finally perhaps you know enough to give me > a clue, about it! This was the first born daughter of the family also, if > that might mean anything?!!!! Thanks for all this about pronuciation of > German too! I'm always interested, because I've got Reeher surname I'm > doing & Raber, & think both are German oriented somehow, but don't know > for > sure anything?! Cathy > >> [Original Message] >> From: Richard Emlin Reed <remlinr@tampabay.rr.com> >> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 8/15/2007 9:30:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V >> >> The diphthong "th" is very rare in German; and, where it appears, is >> pronounced "t". The German word for thousand is tausand. Thron is the > German >> word for throne; it is pronounced "trone". Most of the words spelled with >> the diphthong are of foreign (to German) extraction. >> Richard Emlin Reed >> Wesley Chapel, FL >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Del Bristol" <bristol@wcnet.org> >> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V >> >> >> > My dad was first generation American, both his parents came from > Germany. >> > He always pronounced 'th' as 't' as in tousand for thousand (spell >> > check >> > keeps correcting me!). I miss hearing him speak. Smiles, Anna >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> > bubbles531@comcast.net >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:20 PM >> > To: PADUTCH-LIFE rootsweb; rvuxta@charter.net >> > Subject: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V >> > >> > Hi Ron, my sister-in-law is German. Her family came to America in > 1954. >> > She still pronounces >> > her v's as w's & vice versa. So it's not a speech impediment. It's > not >> > as >> > noticible after all this >> > time, maybe it's because we're used to it. >> > >> > Linda >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathy, If you provide some information about for whom you are trying to locate information, I will see what I can come up with. Please email me off list at marysaerie@stny.rr.com. Mary in her Aerie ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Raber To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V Herr Reed, Is there a German spelling for Stella (is this a German name?) spelled Efftla? A German spelling perhaps? I've gotten a relative that has this in an obituary, & finally perhaps you know enough to give me a clue, about it! This was the first born daughter of the family also, if that might mean anything?!!!! Thanks for all this about pronuciation of German too! I'm always interested, because I've got Reeher surname I'm doing & Raber, & think both are German oriented somehow, but don't know for sure anything?! Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Richard Emlin Reed <remlinr@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/15/2007 9:30:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > The diphthong "th" is very rare in German; and, where it appears, is > pronounced "t". The German word for thousand is tausand. Thron is the German > word for throne; it is pronounced "trone". Most of the words spelled with > the diphthong are of foreign (to German) extraction. > Richard Emlin Reed > Wesley Chapel, FL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Del Bristol" <bristol@wcnet.org> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > > > My dad was first generation American, both his parents came from Germany. > > He always pronounced 'th' as 't' as in tousand for thousand (spell check > > keeps correcting me!). I miss hearing him speak. Smiles, Anna > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > bubbles531@comcast.net > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:20 PM > > To: PADUTCH-LIFE rootsweb; rvuxta@charter.net > > Subject: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > > > Hi Ron, my sister-in-law is German. Her family came to America in 1954. > > She still pronounces > > her v's as w's & vice versa. So it's not a speech impediment. It's not > > as > > noticible after all this > > time, maybe it's because we're used to it. > > > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LYNN - FAVOR - could you please send me the Lancaster site again? SOME way I LOST IT! Thanks Eleanor gtrjj5@msn.com

Herr Reed, Is there a German spelling for Stella (is this a German name?) spelled Efftla? A German spelling perhaps? I've gotten a relative that has this in an obituary, & finally perhaps you know enough to give me a clue, about it! This was the first born daughter of the family also, if that might mean anything?!!!! Thanks for all this about pronuciation of German too! I'm always interested, because I've got Reeher surname I'm doing & Raber, & think both are German oriented somehow, but don't know for sure anything?! Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Richard Emlin Reed <remlinr@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/15/2007 9:30:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > The diphthong "th" is very rare in German; and, where it appears, is > pronounced "t". The German word for thousand is tausand. Thron is the German > word for throne; it is pronounced "trone". Most of the words spelled with > the diphthong are of foreign (to German) extraction. > Richard Emlin Reed > Wesley Chapel, FL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Del Bristol" <bristol@wcnet.org> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > > > My dad was first generation American, both his parents came from Germany. > > He always pronounced 'th' as 't' as in tousand for thousand (spell check > > keeps correcting me!). I miss hearing him speak. Smiles, Anna > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > bubbles531@comcast.net > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:20 PM > > To: PADUTCH-LIFE rootsweb; rvuxta@charter.net > > Subject: [PD-LIFE] German Letter V > > > > Hi Ron, my sister-in-law is German. Her family came to America in 1954. > > She still pronounces > > her v's as w's & vice versa. So it's not a speech impediment. It's not > > as > > noticible after all this > > time, maybe it's because we're used to it. > > > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Poor Mike--I can't imagine driving that every day, twice a day!? (Crossing myself and blessing my ten-minute commute as I type.) I've definitely got to find a way around it next time.? I think I had myself convinced that the last time I experience all that it was because of the construction, but there wasn't any on that particular stretch this time. And the heat--it was between 90 and 95 the whole time I was down there, but as I drove west and climbed in elevation the temperature dropped.? It was about 83 the whole way through the mountains.? By the time I got home this evening it was a lovely 79 degrees.? (Which is really still about seven degrees too warm, but I'm taking it!) I don't blame you for buying the cheap microwaves--I can't believe you've had to buy that many!? But that sure was an impressive storm--so weird how it seemed to be centered over Lancaster.? The roads were completely dry on the other side of town. I have to give Weather.com credit for nailing that one--they called for a t-storm in Lancaster at 1:00, and that's exactly what happened! --Debra -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 7:49 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride/Road Trip Yes, isn't that congestion wonderful !!!! My husband travels it everyday to go to work, over in York. You should have gotten off 30, came for a quick hello, and then gone on 462 West, which is only 2 blocks from our house to by-pass all that craziness, then you could have gotten back on to 30 along the way, and probably would have made time, when any other day, it would have taken you longer going that way :o) But, if you would have done that, you would have missed the gorgeous view of the Susquehanna!!!!! Did you ever come into Columbia from Marietta way? Down over Chiques' Hill? It's absolutely breath-taking!!!!! I just wish I could capture it on a picture. I am so glad that the plan they had to build a highrise condominium_supposedly was suppose to be the highest in all of Lancaster County_fell through, because they didn't get zoning approval before they planned it all, then they were turned down? Hmmm, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it :o) Some! times I don't understand developers at all. Anyway, if you ever get the chance to come over the hill on 441, do, because you will love the view of the Susquehanna from there. Lynn the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

As John pointed out to me :o) that the first thing you see, when you click on Columbia, is a picture of a building. I had to go check it out for myself. The building you see is Bully's on Union, the tavern/rooming place that I talked about having had the bottle rocket cause the third floor to be badly burned, and the second to be damaged by smoke and water, but the tavern spared. And, if you are coming out of the doors of that building you see, and you walk a block down 462, from the door of Bully's, that is where those girls were in the accident. I have to scope the site out more, someday. Glad you found it interesting. :o) Lynn PS I found that site looking for articles on the accident. It was an eerie feeling when I called up Columbia, and the first thing I saw was Bully's. Sheila wrote: Lynn....thanks for the referral to the Lancaster County web site - it is very interesting!

Okay, where'd that go? I just hit reply, and lost your post immediately? I guess cyberspace. I was waving, as I didn't get to read all the posts of the day, but John and Joyce said, "our Debra is taking a road trip on Rt. 30". I thought they had a daughter named Debra, until I read your post about taking a road trip on Rt. 30, then I realized he meant OUR Debra :o) So, I WAS waving back when you passed!!!! And, you were only 6 1/2 blocks away from our house if you take the straight way to it. Now the way I gave, gets you right out front, so you go an extra 2 blocks, but yes, you did go almost right past our house :o) That storm you are talking about, fried our microwave oven again!!!! We lost 3 microwaves because of the lightening, and power surges. That's why I shut down and unplug my computer completely when I hear a storm coming. Guess I better start doing that with the microwave. In 5 years this is our 4th microwave, all fried from lightning storms. Not a good thing. WE started just getting really cheap ones after the really expensive one we had fried. And, the cheaper ones last a lot longer :o) We had to go out and get a new one, right after Mike came home from work :o( Luckily we found one exACTly the same as the one we have. I kicked my brother-in-law off the computer Yes, isn't that congestion wonderful !!!! My husband travels it everyday to go to work, over in York. You should have gotten off 30, came for a quick hello, and then gone on 462 West, which is only 2 blocks from our house to by-pass all that craziness, then you could have gotten back on to 30 along the way, and probably would have made time, when any other day, it would have taken you longer going that way :o) But, if you would have done that, you would have missed the gorgeous view of the Susquehanna!!!!! Did you ever come into Columbia from Marietta way? Down over Chiques' Hill? It's absolutely breath-taking!!!!! I just wish I could capture it on a picture. I am so glad that the plan they had to build a highrise condominium_supposedly was suppose to be the highest in all of Lancaster County_fell through, because they didn't get zoning approval before they planned it all, then they were turned down? Hmmm, that's putting the cart before the horse, isn't it :o) Sometimes I don't understand developers at all. Anyway, if you ever get the chance to come over the hill on 441, do, because you will love the view of the Susquehanna from there. Lynn Debra wrote: (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home.

----- Original Message ----- From: dorner1065@aol.com To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride/Road Trip Yes, around the time you wrote that I was well on my way to Lancaster, and I am just now returned from a very nice day on the road! I left here at about 6:15 or so, figuring on about a 3.5 hour trip.? Well, I was off by about 30 minutes!!? There was approximately 30 feet of road surface on my route that is not currently under construction.? And holy freaking cow--did I completely forget about the congestion on Route 30 between York and Lancaster!!? (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home. Driving Route 30 is always one of my favorite things to do, and with the exception of that stretch between Lancaster and York, it was a great trip. Once you get on the other side of Chambersburg, Route 30 is just about sheer bliss the whole way to Greensburg, where it gets congested again. But between Chambersburg and Greensburg, it's nothing but gloriously rural, verdant, rolling Pennsylvania hills?and the open road, which is nicely challenging to drive!? The section between Bedford and Ligonier is especially great, but unfortunately I pretty much have to invent a reason to drive it :o( --Debra? -----Original Message----- From: John Keiper <jdkjak@webtv.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 8:05 am Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride thanks debra for the back ground info on the bikers travelling on route 30 by pass just below our house and garden. as we write, you are probably tooling toward lancaster county. the cold front that was to have brought us some relief this morning will arrive toward noon. shazam & HAPPY MOTORING John & Joyce Keiper >From the "situation room", Bedford, Penna. 15522 at: coventry cottage ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cathy....I read your post earlier, and I replied to your email in the message since I have Wards, and Wrights in my genealogy. I have gotten a message back about it possibly being spam, and I tried to fill out the form, but that was blocked to. Please repond on this board, if you wish. I have a Caroline Penelope Ward and the line goes back to Whites from the areas you mentioned. What are the names of some of your Wards and Wrights? Thanks! Sheila Kline in WV --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

Yes, around the time you wrote that I was well on my way to Lancaster, and I am just now returned from a very nice day on the road! I left here at about 6:15 or so, figuring on about a 3.5 hour trip.? Well, I was off by about 30 minutes!!? There was approximately 30 feet of road surface on my route that is not currently under construction.? And holy freaking cow--did I completely forget about the congestion on Route 30 between York and Lancaster!!? (But Lynn--I did wave as I drove past the exit for Columbia! :o) What is interesting about this particular stretch of road is, in neither direction do they tell you how far apart these two cities are.? Once you follow the instructions for "this way to Lancaster" or "this way to York" there is not a single sign saying how many miles away either one of them is.? I thought that was weird. But yes--the congestion between those two cities!!? It about shredded my last nerve.? But then, just when you think your blood pressure will boil over, you get to the bridge across the Susquehanna and your breath is just completely taken away.? What an indescribably beautiful sight that is.? The Susquehanna is so broad and calm that if you didn't know what it was, you might think you were crossing a lake. I got some great buys at the Lancaster outlets, and stopped at the Gettysburg outlets on my way back.? I experienced a pretty fierce thunderstorm in Lancaster around 1:00 pm, but almost as soon as I left the city limits it was clear blue sky the whole way home. Driving Route 30 is always one of my favorite things to do, and with the exception of that stretch between Lancaster and York, it was a great trip. Once you get on the other side of Chambersburg, Route 30 is just about sheer bliss the whole way to Greensburg, where it gets congested again. But between Chambersburg and Greensburg, it's nothing but gloriously rural, verdant, rolling Pennsylvania hills?and the open road, which is nicely challenging to drive!? The section between Bedford and Ligonier is especially great, but unfortunately I pretty much have to invent a reason to drive it :o( --Debra? -----Original Message----- From: John Keiper <jdkjak@webtv.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 8:05 am Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] America's Ride thanks debra for the back ground info on the bikers travelling on route 30 by pass just below our house and garden. as we write, you are probably tooling toward lancaster county. the cold front that was to have brought us some relief this morning will arrive toward noon. shazam & HAPPY MOTORING John & Joyce Keiper >From the "situation room", Bedford, Penna. 15522 at: coventry cottage ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

My daughter just celebrated her birthday this week too, Rick. And my two sisters have birthday's this month too, & a couple others. I like what Karen Fox, said, "Do soemthing you love", or eat something you love! You just have to sometimes! Your the only one who knows how to please yourself! I got to cooking today, just made some macaroni salad. I haven't done that in like a long time! Used to have tons of family get-togethers,& fix it, but don't anymore, so treated myself, & fussed. It turned out very different, with a new ingredient, spicy brown mustard instead of yellow. I'll have to reserve judgment on how it turns out until my husband gets home today, but I think I liked it. It might be a staple from now on instead of the yellow! Tracy, that gumbo sounds good too, that was on here the other day! I copied that, so thanks for asking, "Ask & you shall receive! Cathy Cathy Raber pigeonrock@earthlink.net Searching for these surnames in Baltimore, Prince Georges Co. MD, Washington Co, & Columbiana Co. Eastern OH, Beaver & Mercer Counties, Western PA BROOKES(S)pellings, CAIN, CHIRRA, COLEMAN, DAVIS, ENGLISH, PALMER(MD & OH), McKAIN, McKINNON/Marbury, PLUMMER, POPP/RABER, PORTER, STEVENS?/STEVENSON, SPEARS, WARD, WRIGHT

Lynn....thanks for the referral to the Lancaster County web site - it is very interesting! Sheila in WV --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

Hi Everyone, In searching for info on the accident, I came across this very interesting site, that I hope will be helpful to people wanting to visit Lancaster County. :o) Lynn http://www.aboutlancaster.com/