In a message dated 8/24/2007 9:29:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, lynnvondran@att.net writes: Nope, it's Googled as Polk, in both cases I am talking about :o) and, it's spelled that way in all the articles and messages I've read so far, too :o) Now, the one can be looked up under Polk Plant, and the other under Polk Weed, but both are spelled Polk. Thanks, though :o) Lynn Hmmm...not in Wikipedia and other official sites (there are thousands of hits on Pokeweed): _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed) While they do include variant spellings -- the plant is Pokeweed. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I've been hearing about your town's problems with flooding, Ann. Everything ok with you all. I did manage to get together with Arlene finally & was a nice leisurely, but excited few hours. I had a whirlwind day, shop;ping for a cook-out that night, but she had called me back so tried again, & then we managed to find a few hours to let me look through her Cemetery Inscription books she had at her house! Cool. And what a great homey place to visit, & spotted some wonderful birds on a feeder outside the window, that I'd never seen before, & found out we're both birdwatchers, so it was a great trip to OH all the way around! Just wish I had been able to get together longer that day! Oh well next year, perhaps!! Let me know how your summer went too? My kids are in school already, so summer is officially over for us, & back to the grind, as they say! My son, so far, is enjoying friends, & a girl's attention. She used to have a interest in him, or he had in her. Ah, young love interest!! Later, Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Richard Berkheiser <reberkheiser@earthlink.net> > To: <PADUTCH-LIFE@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/24/2007 10:15:54 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] weather in your area > > Just 40 miles southwest of us there has been much flooding: Findlay and > Shelby in particular. We have had some localized flooding, but they are > suffering the worse of it. > Smiles, Anna > > -------------------- > > They were showing Finlay on the Weather Channel last night and they have quite the mess. Being so close to the river some of the businesses didn't have flood insurance. Business owners thought they didn't need it because a couple of blocks were up high enough from the river. They haven't seen anything like this since 1913. > > My parents and I drove over to LaPorte last night for supper and we got caught in a bad storm. The wind was getting pretty bad by the time we got to the old Studebaker proving grounds and Bendix Woods near New Carlisle. On the way home, we saw downed trees and branches everywhere. > > There's more storms brewing in Iowa so we're not out of the woods yet. > > Rick B > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just 40 miles southwest of us there has been much flooding: Findlay and Shelby in particular. We have had some localized flooding, but they are suffering the worse of it. Smiles, Anna -------------------- They were showing Finlay on the Weather Channel last night and they have quite the mess. Being so close to the river some of the businesses didn't have flood insurance. Business owners thought they didn't need it because a couple of blocks were up high enough from the river. They haven't seen anything like this since 1913. My parents and I drove over to LaPorte last night for supper and we got caught in a bad storm. The wind was getting pretty bad by the time we got to the old Studebaker proving grounds and Bendix Woods near New Carlisle. On the way home, we saw downed trees and branches everywhere. There's more storms brewing in Iowa so we're not out of the woods yet. Rick B

--- Rick wrote: Our basement has flooded so many times in the last few weeks, I'm ready > to call FEMA. Only joking. :-) On our one basement wall where the > water comes in, we have towels stacked like sandbags. Its also very > steamy outside with the humidity being so high. > > The lab results that came back the other day also showed the stale > Christmas cookies make great water absorbers. :-) ************************* Rick, Sorry to hear about the flooding. That has got to be terrible to live through. We've gotten our heat and sun back. Ugh. The a/c in my car is not working correctly and my driver side window doesn't go down so it is terribly HOT to get into the car and go anywhere. On a good note, Rick, you have found another use for the stale cookies. Maybe you should write a book? "101 uses for Stale Christmas Cookies". I bet it would top the best seller list for many weeks! #1 could be great for sopping water out of flooding basements. #2 could be great for remodeling-holds paint well. and so on... tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz

Nope, it's Googled as Polk, in both cases I am talking about :o) and, it's spelled that way in all the articles and messages I've read so far, too :o) Now, the one can be looked up under Polk Plant, and the other under Polk Weed, but both are spelled Polk. Thanks, though :o) Lynn Joan wrote: In a message dated 8/24/2007 8:21:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, lynnvo ndran@att.net writes: Anyway, one said the yuppie & hippies spread around a rumor that the Polk is poisonous. But, at a country site, they were talking about it and said that the tender leaves, the very young leaves, were always a favorite with their granny, and they couldn't wait for her to make her cooked Polk greens. ---- Lynn- If people are googling for "polk" they probably are not finding this because it is spelled "Poke." It IS VERY POISONOUS but not when the greens are young and tender. People who use it for salad know when to stop picking it because it DOES become poinonous and the berries (inkberries) are very poisonous as well (although the birds eat them ok). Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/24/2007 8:21:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, lynnvo ndran@att.net writes: Anyway, one said the yuppie & hippies spread around a rumor that the Polk is poisonous. But, at a country site, they were talking about it and said that the tender leaves, the very young leaves, were always a favorite with their granny, and they couldn't wait for her to make her cooked Polk greens. ---- Lynn- If people are googling for "polk" they probably are not finding this because it is spelled "Poke." It IS VERY POISONOUS but not when the greens are young and tender. People who use it for salad know when to stop picking it because it DOES become poinonous and the berries (inkberries) are very poisonous as well (although the birds eat them ok). Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Yes, and the berries were used by the Indians to make ink. Just found that out at another site. That's another reason it is so wild here along the Susquehanna. But, I'm sure that Susanna Wright thought to use it for dye, when she had her silk mills in the area, when Columbia was founded. I found so many funny site_or I should say fun sites in searching for info about the Polk Plant/Weed/Greens, whatever people call it, because it seems, in reading about it, it's called Polk something or other, not always plant. Anyway, one said the yuppie & hippies spread around a rumor that the Polk is poisonous. But, at a country site, they were talking about it and said that the tender leaves, the very young leaves, were always a favorite with their granny, and they couldn't wait for her to make her cooked Polk greens. :o) Here is a good picture of the plant when it is way too old to use the leaves. Either of these is it's poisonous season. Once you see ANY berries, and they start out as teeny-tiny white berries, it's way too late to harvest them. Though I will never try to make them, I believe they must be good from all the talk I've heard. :o) Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: Del Bristol To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks & Polk Plants & Foxglove Is this what is referred to in the song, "Polk Salad Annie"?

Lynn-no, they do not warn of anything bad. They only tell you about the good things that will come. Like the need not to worry about diabetes and such. One thing he said was that it would relieve my predilection toward heart disease but it runs in the family so how can it stop that? Also, I have seizures. How can it stop those? It cannot. After further testing this week, I have resigned myself to not ever being able to drive again and am listening quietly to ya'lls descriptions of Reading, PA. I don't believe I will ever get there. Becky Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> wrote: WOW!!!!! Now that is quite an interesting addition to the subject for sure. Though I've never had it done, and only know one person who has (well, now two), I'm sure someone on the list has learned something from this!!!! Let me ask. When someone goes in for gastric by-pass surgery, do they warn the person that this can happen? Just curious!!! Thanks, Becky!!! Lynn Becky wrote: Hello all! I hope you don't mind another comment on the topic of neuropathy. I started having serious problems a couple of years ago-to the point that I can no longer drive. My neurologist, Dr. Robert Simkins who is the director of Wallace-Kettering Neurological Sciences tells me that it happens quite often with gastric bypass patience because their bodies cannot hold the necessary minerals, vitamins and such. Sometimes, it is reversible but alot of times, it is not. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

In a message dated 8/23/2007 10:30:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, bristol@wcnet.org writes: Is this what is referred to in the song, "Polk Salad Annie"? Smiles, Anna Actually that is Pokeweed. The Pokeweed is edible only when the plant is very young and becomes poisonous after it grows bigger. The berries look almost like wild blueberries but Poke Berries (Inkberries) are poisonous. _http://www.gardengrapevine.com/Pokeweed.html_ (http://www.gardengrapevine.com/Pokeweed.html) The birds can eat it without harm--except that they tend to leave the purple telltales signs that they've been eating pokeweed wherever they go. <g> Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In Niagara Falls, NY......................... had a few "chilly" days --- now predictions are high 70's/low 80's with T-storms almost every day for next few days. Still better than winter! Eleanor

Here's a Kuchen recipe from the internet from www.cooks.com. Mary GERMAN KUCHEN 2 c. warm milk 1/2 c. sugar 1/2 c. shortening 1 tsp. salt 1 pkg. dry yeast 2 eggs Flour CRUMB TOPPING: 1 c. sugar 1 c. flour 1/2 c. butter FILLING: 2 c. sweet or sour cream 2 eggs, beaten 1/2 c. sugar 1 1/2 tbsp. flour 1 tsp. vanilla Mix together dough ingredients, using enough flour to make a soft dough. Separate dough into 8 equal parts. Roll each piece out to fit pie tin. Let rise for about 20 minutes. Fill each with cream filling. Put any fruit topping on top (apple, peach, apricot, prune, etc. Sprinkle crumbs over top; sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon. Bake at 350 degrees until brown. Filling: Heat cream. Do not boil. Combine eggs, sugar, and flour; stir into cream and cook until thick. Add vanilla; cool slightly. Can add about 1 cup cottage cheese at this point. Crumb Topping: Cut together sugar, flour, and butter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Del Bristol To: 'Richard Berkheiser' ; padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] weather in your area In north central Ohio we are m-u-g-g-y. My brother says it feels like the time he has spent in the Amazon -- minus the snakes. Cripes. Just 40 miles southwest of us there has been much flooding: Findlay and Shelby in particular. We have had some localized flooding, but they are suffering the worse of it. Smiles, Anna P.S. Someone asked for peach kuchen. I am up to my armpits in family right now (love it), but I will scour my cookbooks when we return from vacation, unless you have a recipe already. -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Berkheiser Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:41 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] weather in your area How is the weather where you are? tracy -------------------- Good question Tracy. For us in Northcentral Indiana, its been a very soggy experience. In just one month's time we've gone from the dryest summer on record to the wettest. The last two weeks alone we've had about 11 inches of rain with a good portion of it coming from Tropical Storm Erin. The last couple of days we've had monsoon-like storms to the point that everything's flooded. Our basement has flooded so many times in the last few weeks, I'm ready to call FEMA. Only joking. :-) On our one basement wall where the water comes in, we have towels stacked like sandbags. Its also very steamy outside with the humidity being so high. The lab results that came back the other day also showed the stale Christmas cookies make great water absorbers. :-) Rick B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this what is referred to in the song, "Polk Salad Annie"? Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Vondran Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:44 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks & Polk Plants & Foxglove Oh, as soon as I decided to get the Hollyhocks, and questioned all you friends on the PA Dutch list, I started reading up on them. I've printed out a few things from the Internet, and have the solution to where to put them pretty much figured out, now that I had to change my ideas a bit. But, I think it will work, and it will also keep them under control, too. We have a very tall porch_the guys had to add wood to the pillars they put up today_so the Hollyhocks will add that special something to the front porch, being so tall of a plant, and both sides of the front of the property, too, next year. I believe it would be too late to plant them now, that summer is almost over. I know what you mean by a mess of things, when you don't know about a plant. When we first moved here, I didn't know what a Polk plant was. Well, I found out, and the story is in the archives, but I will tell it anyway. I thought it had beautiful huge leaves, and it was the only thing growing in the garden at the side, when we moved in. Well, I decided to let it grow, and grow, and grow, until someone told me I better get that thing out, or it will be rooted so deeply, and seed the rest of the yard with annoying shoots. Hmmmm, it already had, but I didn't know it until the next year, and the year after that, and after that, 17 times over year after year_I just got finished pulling up the latest crop of Polk. And, the neighbor, 17 years ago, who told me to pull that original one out. wasn't kidding at all !!!! That root was a long as the plant was tall, and it was taller than me, by the time I showed it to the neighbor, and asked if he knew what kind of plant it was. ! I dug, and dug, and dug, until I couldn't dig any more, and still didn't have all the root. I started pulling, and pulling, until finally the root gave up, and I went flying about 10 feet back, until I came to rest on my rearend!!! I was covered in a pretty fuscia color, too. It was then that the neighbor told me why we have them growing so much in this area. They use to grow them to make dye out of them. Believe me, it took a long time for that color to come out of my skin. Never did get it out of the clothing I was wearing at the time :o) Yes, 17 years, and they are still sprouting up all through the yard, and gardens. I must say they are worse than the Dandelion. Oh, another interesting fact about the Polk plant. I found this out from one of my dear little Mennonite ladies, at Storytime at the home quite a few years ago. I was telling them about my episode with the plant, and she said that her mother use to send them out to pick the young leaves, before the be! rries showed up, and their mother would cook them to eat? She said th at once the berries show up, they are poisonous :o( But, before that, when the plant is young, they are good. Anyone know about this? Well, I decided to do a Google search on it, and sure enough, I found a post by a David in Virginia, at The Recipe Link http://www.recipelink.com/mf/1/1257 and here is what he said about it to Ladonna: "Yes, what you have growing outside your window is a "Tried & True" Polk plant. You described it perfectly! Yes, it is a toxic plant, it contains oxalic acids, and so do other things we eat, such as rhubarb, and eggplant, they are all part of the nightshade family, but, once it's cooked, the toxins are relieved and the end result is fine to eat. Now, to cook polk greens up proper, you need the fresh tender tops of the plants, and you need a lot of them, then just cook them as you would any green. They are delicious. My Granny Church cooked them for years and years (She passed on at 99 years of age), and my momma is still cookin them (at 65)." So what my dear friend told me was known by others, too :o) And, if I can put up with these Polks, I can put up with the Hocks, too :o) :o) Lynn PS I've planted plenty of foxfern, but not foxglove!!! It's an interesting looking plant though, and has another name_Digitalis (sp?), which I know is a heart drug name, also, because my mom's boyfriend had to take it for his heart. Kathy wrote: I planted Hollyhocks several years ago. They sure are beautiful for a short length of time. However, about half way through blooming time the leaves get a lacey look and then fall off just leaving the flowers and not so pretty bare stalks. Pretty sure they need some insecticide. Hollyhocks will reseed themselves but what a mess I ended up with this year. Apparently I don't cut them down quick enough because next spring there are sprouts everywhere. I left some clumps this year .... no flowers but maybe next spring. If you want them to look nice - research! Although I love them I've vowed to not plant anymore unless I figure out how to take care of them..... otherwise they are way too much work for me. Anyone plant foxglove?? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In north central Ohio we are m-u-g-g-y. My brother says it feels like the time he has spent in the Amazon -- minus the snakes. Cripes. Just 40 miles southwest of us there has been much flooding: Findlay and Shelby in particular. We have had some localized flooding, but they are suffering the worse of it. Smiles, Anna P.S. Someone asked for peach kuchen. I am up to my armpits in family right now (love it), but I will scour my cookbooks when we return from vacation, unless you have a recipe already. -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Berkheiser Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:41 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] weather in your area How is the weather where you are? tracy -------------------- Good question Tracy. For us in Northcentral Indiana, its been a very soggy experience. In just one month's time we've gone from the dryest summer on record to the wettest. The last two weeks alone we've had about 11 inches of rain with a good portion of it coming from Tropical Storm Erin. The last couple of days we've had monsoon-like storms to the point that everything's flooded. Our basement has flooded so many times in the last few weeks, I'm ready to call FEMA. Only joking. :-) On our one basement wall where the water comes in, we have towels stacked like sandbags. Its also very steamy outside with the humidity being so high. The lab results that came back the other day also showed the stale Christmas cookies make great water absorbers. :-) Rick B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Those Japanese beetles are eating your leaves to make them appear lacy. I have had foxglove -- digitalis, the heart medication comes from them. They are lovely with their dark spots. Mine did not grow this season -- but the rabbits did! Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George & Kathy Zagorac Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:32 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks I'm having problems with my email these days so I've been losing threads of conversations on the list. I planted Hollyhocks several years ago. They sure are beautiful for a short length of time. However, about half way through blooming time the leaves get a lacey look and then fall off just leaving the flowers and not so pretty bare stalks. Pretty sure they need some insecticide. Hollyhocks will reseed themselves but what a mess I ended up with this year. Apparently I don't cut them down quick enough because next spring there are sprouts everywhere. I left some clumps this year .... no flowers but maybe next spring. If you want them to look nice - research! Although I love them I've vowed to not plant anymore unless I figure out how to take care of them..... otherwise they are way too much work for me. Anyone plant foxglove?? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Derenard" <dderenard@coachella.org> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks > Lynn, > > My Mom always spoke fondly of her Hollyhocks that she had in Iowa. She > grew up in Fort Dodge. And her flowers were beautiful! > > Debbie DeRenard > Administrative Assistant/Webmaster > > -----Original Message----- > From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Vondran > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:47 PM > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks > > Hi Gang, > I know that our ancestors were REALly into heirloom gardening, saving > seeds from one year to the next for all sorts of gardening_vegetable and > flower. > Do any of you grow Hollyhocks? I found an order sheet for some beauties > from Michigan Bulb and wondered if anyone has tried to grow these, and > if it would be worth my while to order them for this area. They are > perrennial, at least it seems they are, but then again, the site where I > was talks of collecting the seeds from year to year? It confused me. > Or is this a way of them coming back year after year, meaning it isn't a > root? > Thanks! > Lynn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a neat site I just found at Google, and here is the Foxglove information: http://plantsbulbs.suite101.com/article.cfm/foxglove_plant_profile :o) Lynn Kathy asked: Anyone plant foxglove??

Oh, as soon as I decided to get the Hollyhocks, and questioned all you friends on the PA Dutch list, I started reading up on them. I've printed out a few things from the Internet, and have the solution to where to put them pretty much figured out, now that I had to change my ideas a bit. But, I think it will work, and it will also keep them under control, too. We have a very tall porch_the guys had to add wood to the pillars they put up today_so the Hollyhocks will add that special something to the front porch, being so tall of a plant, and both sides of the front of the property, too, next year. I believe it would be too late to plant them now, that summer is almost over. I know what you mean by a mess of things, when you don't know about a plant. When we first moved here, I didn't know what a Polk plant was. Well, I found out, and the story is in the archives, but I will tell it anyway. I thought it had beautiful huge leaves, and it was the only thing growing in the garden at the side, when we moved in. Well, I decided to let it grow, and grow, and grow, until someone told me I better get that thing out, or it will be rooted so deeply, and seed the rest of the yard with annoying shoots. Hmmmm, it already had, but I didn't know it until the next year, and the year after that, and after that, 17 times over year after year_I just got finished pulling up the latest crop of Polk. And, the neighbor, 17 years ago, who told me to pull that original one out. wasn't kidding at all !!!! That root was a long as the plant was tall, and it was taller than me, by the time I showed it to the neighbor, and asked if he knew what kind of plant it was. I dug, and dug, and dug, until I couldn't dig any more, and still didn't have all the root. I started pulling, and pulling, until finally the root gave up, and I went flying about 10 feet back, until I came to rest on my rearend!!! I was covered in a pretty fuscia color, too. It was then that the neighbor told me why we have them growing so much in this area. They use to grow them to make dye out of them. Believe me, it took a long time for that color to come out of my skin. Never did get it out of the clothing I was wearing at the time :o) Yes, 17 years, and they are still sprouting up all through the yard, and gardens. I must say they are worse than the Dandelion. Oh, another interesting fact about the Polk plant. I found this out from one of my dear little Mennonite ladies, at Storytime at the home quite a few years ago. I was telling them about my episode with the plant, and she said that her mother use to send them out to pick the young leaves, before the berries showed up, and their mother would cook them to eat? She said that once the berries show up, they are poisonous :o( But, before that, when the plant is young, they are good. Anyone know about this? Well, I decided to do a Google search on it, and sure enough, I found a post by a David in Virginia, at The Recipe Link http://www.recipelink.com/mf/1/1257 and here is what he said about it to Ladonna: "Yes, what you have growing outside your window is a "Tried & True" Polk plant. You described it perfectly! Yes, it is a toxic plant, it contains oxalic acids, and so do other things we eat, such as rhubarb, and eggplant, they are all part of the nightshade family, but, once it's cooked, the toxins are relieved and the end result is fine to eat. Now, to cook polk greens up proper, you need the fresh tender tops of the plants, and you need a lot of them, then just cook them as you would any green. They are delicious. My Granny Church cooked them for years and years (She passed on at 99 years of age), and my momma is still cookin them (at 65)." So what my dear friend told me was known by others, too :o) And, if I can put up with these Polks, I can put up with the Hocks, too :o) :o) Lynn PS I've planted plenty of foxfern, but not foxglove!!! It's an interesting looking plant though, and has another name_Digitalis (sp?), which I know is a heart drug name, also, because my mom's boyfriend had to take it for his heart. Kathy wrote: I planted Hollyhocks several years ago. They sure are beautiful for a short length of time. However, about half way through blooming time the leaves get a lacey look and then fall off just leaving the flowers and not so pretty bare stalks. Pretty sure they need some insecticide. Hollyhocks will reseed themselves but what a mess I ended up with this year. Apparently I don't cut them down quick enough because next spring there are sprouts everywhere. I left some clumps this year .... no flowers but maybe next spring. If you want them to look nice - research! Although I love them I've vowed to not plant anymore unless I figure out how to take care of them..... otherwise they are way too much work for me. Anyone plant foxglove??

Yes, no problem. This one is specific for japanese beetle larvae. It won't do anything to any other animals or bugs. Jane Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> wrote: Thanks Jane!!! Is this Milky Spore okay with pets? Lynn Jane wrote: I have some hollyhocks I got from a friend years ago. If they like where you plant them you'll have them forever. They are perennials, but they also seed, so I find plants other places in the garden. Mine are a rosy red. Be sure to give them lots of sun. As for the Japanese beetles, you can cut down on their numbers by using Milky Spore. You spread it on the grass and it gets rid of the beetles in a year or so, or at least reduces their numbers. It is all natural. Flea beetles also bother my hollyhocks. The doubles seem a little harder to grow than the old fashioned ones. I know you'll enjoy them. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

How is the weather where you are? tracy -------------------- Good question Tracy. For us in Northcentral Indiana, its been a very soggy experience. In just one month's time we've gone from the dryest summer on record to the wettest. The last two weeks alone we've had about 11 inches of rain with a good portion of it coming from Tropical Storm Erin. The last couple of days we've had monsoon-like storms to the point that everything's flooded. Our basement has flooded so many times in the last few weeks, I'm ready to call FEMA. Only joking. :-) On our one basement wall where the water comes in, we have towels stacked like sandbags. Its also very steamy outside with the humidity being so high. The lab results that came back the other day also showed the stale Christmas cookies make great water absorbers. :-) Rick B

I'm having problems with my email these days so I've been losing threads of conversations on the list. I planted Hollyhocks several years ago. They sure are beautiful for a short length of time. However, about half way through blooming time the leaves get a lacey look and then fall off just leaving the flowers and not so pretty bare stalks. Pretty sure they need some insecticide. Hollyhocks will reseed themselves but what a mess I ended up with this year. Apparently I don't cut them down quick enough because next spring there are sprouts everywhere. I left some clumps this year .... no flowers but maybe next spring. If you want them to look nice - research! Although I love them I've vowed to not plant anymore unless I figure out how to take care of them..... otherwise they are way too much work for me. Anyone plant foxglove?? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Derenard" <dderenard@coachella.org> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks > Lynn, > > My Mom always spoke fondly of her Hollyhocks that she had in Iowa. She > grew up in Fort Dodge. And her flowers were beautiful! > > Debbie DeRenard > Administrative Assistant/Webmaster > > -----Original Message----- > From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Vondran > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:47 PM > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PD-LIFE] Hollyhocks > > Hi Gang, > I know that our ancestors were REALly into heirloom gardening, saving > seeds from one year to the next for all sorts of gardening_vegetable and > flower. > Do any of you grow Hollyhocks? I found an order sheet for some beauties > from Michigan Bulb and wondered if anyone has tried to grow these, and > if it would be worth my while to order them for this area. They are > perrennial, at least it seems they are, but then again, the site where I > was talks of collecting the seeds from year to year? It confused me. > Or is this a way of them coming back year after year, meaning it isn't a > root? > Thanks! > Lynn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

WOW!!!!!! You're really up there, aren't you!!!! I'll have to let everyone know how they turn out!! I hope they are still available when planting season rolls around again, since I just now found the ad in the paper. BTW, I can't wait until they are finished drilling out front. It is making that sound of the UGLY drill at the dentist office_not the nice one that spurts out water, but that UGLY dry drill !!! I keep getting shivers up and down my spine! Gotta get out of this room :o) Oh, Cathy! I use to get the Obituary Daily Times, which doesn't really give me what I want to save. I want the whole obituary. But, thanks anyway. Yes, I was at Obituary Times a few years ago, and use to get it in my email until my email got so out of hand I couldn't think straight!!! Not that it isn't that way now, but WOW!!!! Gotta get out of here :o) Have a GREAT day everyone!!! :o) Lynn Charles wrote: We do grow ours next to the house. I don't know if that makes any difference. BTW, most Canadians live south of our latitude.