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    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical
    2. Judy Brannon
    3. According to Webster's New World Dictionary, the h is still silent in "vehicle" and "honor", but it is still spoken in historical. If you ever question any pronunciation, the ultimate source is the Oxford English Dictionary. That has every word used in the English language, from its beginnings through each change of use. It is also like 18-20 HUGE volumes big. Most libraries carry them.

    08/30/2007 04:33:08
    1. [PD-LIFE] rook cards
    2. Judy Brannon
    3. They are sold at Target and WalMart. They are turquoise with a black crow on them.

    08/30/2007 04:13:48
    1. [PD-LIFE] LIFE IN GLENWOOD BY LYNN
    2. Sheila Kline
    3. Lynn, I just wanted to tell you how very much I enjoyed your story about being trapped in the spooky house.....what an adventure! Keep up the good work. It will be a wonderful legacy that you are leaving for others to see what life was like for you. You are a gifted story teller, and I thank you for sharing it with us!! I look forward to hearing more stories from you! Sheila in WV --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

    08/30/2007 03:35:25
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases
    2. Richard Berkheiser
    3. Yes, they are.? The deck I had of my gmothers was really worn and dirty.? I have a new deck.? Not sure where or when I got it.? Probably in a store such as Cracker Barrel or other place that sells older articles.?? Connie -------------------- Haven't been in a Cracker Barrel since my last vacation but I think they did sell Rook. Rick B

    08/30/2007 03:13:46
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases
    2. Richard Berkheiser
    3. Whew! Rook is too complicated for me. I'm one of those people who could never figure out Eucre. Rick B ----- Original Message ----- From: marysaerie To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases For those of you who may wonder what the game of Rook entails, it is very much like pinochle. I always hated pinochle, but loved Rook. It is played on the same principle, but is much easier. Of course, my parents always played double and triple deck, which is very difficult. Rook has 4 suits: red, yellow, blue, green. There are only number cards: 1 through 14, with the 1 being the 'ace'. The 5 is worth 5 points; the 10 and 14 are worth 10 points, and the 1 is worth 15 points. The 57th card has a picture of the rook (crow or raven) on it. It is always trump, is always the lowest trump, but is worth 20 points. There are 180 possible points to make in each hand. Players (usually 4 playing partners) are dealt 10 cards, with 5 cards being placed in the 'nest' in the center of the table. Each player bids (minimum 100) for the right to call trump. The object is to take as many tricks as possible, to take as many points as possible, and to 'save' the rook. If you want to learn more about Rook, this website is a good place to start: http://www.pagat.com/kt5/rook.html Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: twerppy@aol.com To: dctrk@c2i2.com ; padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases I always?had apple butter topped with cottage cheese.? It was lunch as a kid.? My grandmother always treated me to a special drink when I would visit.? Milk with vanilla in it.? Boy was it good.? She had an alterier motive also.? It would calm down an active child.? Think she dosed me with the alcohol content.? Never got sleepy.? We would play Rook and I have that as very fond memories of her.? She had 6 boys and 2 girls.? Born in the 1800's.? I now live in the house where she spent her last years.? Connie Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:37 am Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases I looked it up on line, and yes, I agree by dictionary definition it is a spreadable cheese. I like cottage cheese mixed with just about any kind of fruit, and do get some now and then. They say it is healthy. I used to use jelly or jams in it, but since I am now low-level diabetic, I crush fresh fruits and mix with it. It is good that way also. Speaking of machines, my Uncle Teddy and Aunt Toots used to call their car a machine, don't remember ever hearing them call it a car, automobile, or 'Chevy". Don in AZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/30/2007 03:10:43
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical
    2. I would think it is that bird feeder that is in the USA right now.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Richard Emlin Reed <remlinr@tampabay.rr.com> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 6:25 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical 40% 'ispanics, did ye say? MY! My! Did it ever occur to anyone to wonder, since the big corporations sent all the jobs overseas, what is attracting all those 'ispanics to Reading? Could they be wanting to learn to speak PA-Dutch. }:-) Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Fox" <karenmfox@verizon.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical > Lynn wrote: "As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living > for 53 years, I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news > reporters, as "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a > consonent, therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an > istorical" whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it > rather hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they > prononce this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and > today they say istorical, and this is all just lately. > Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in > Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, > I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe > if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it > there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been > there lately?" > ***************** > > Lynn, I've noticed that as well. My thinking is that it might be an > influence of the growing Latino population in Reading making their "mark" > on the everyday language. I could be totally off base and have nothing > concrete to base that guess upon, but it seems to my ear as though Spanish > speakers who use English as a second language will ofton drop a leading H > when speaking English. Since Hispanics now constitute almost 40% of > Reading's population, it would just make sense that we would begin to see > their influence on our general population regional accents. > > Karen from Berks > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

    08/30/2007 02:58:03
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases
    2. Yes, they are.? The deck I had of my gmothers was really worn and dirty.? I have a new deck.? Not sure where or when I got it.? Probably in a store such as Cracker Barrel or other place that sells older articles.?? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 3:11 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases Are Rook cards still sold? I haven't been in that section of the store for quite some time. Thanks! Lynn Mary explained the card game Rook ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

    08/30/2007 02:51:24
    1. [PD-LIFE] Rook
    2. George & Kathy Zagorac
    3. My husband and I used to love to play Rook - the easier version. Both of us lived in the Pittsburgh area all of our lives until we relocated to Virginia for a short time after college. Neither my husband nor I ever heard of Rook before our move. Our now dear friends taught us how to play. We would play at least one night every weekend. Tried to interest our kids in the game but they never really liked playing it. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marysaerie" <marysaerie@stny.rr.com> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > For those of you who may wonder what the game of Rook entails, it is very > much like pinochle. I always hated pinochle, but loved Rook. It is > played on the same principle, but is much easier. Of course, my parents > always played double and triple deck, which is very difficult. > > Rook has 4 suits: red, yellow, blue, green. There are only number cards: > 1 through 14, with the 1 being the 'ace'. The 5 is worth 5 points; the 10 > and 14 are worth 10 points, and the 1 is worth 15 points. The 57th card > has a picture of the rook (crow or raven) on it. It is always trump, is > always the lowest trump, but is worth 20 points. There are 180 possible > points to make in each hand. > > Players (usually 4 playing partners) are dealt 10 cards, with 5 cards > being placed in the 'nest' in the center of the table. Each player bids > (minimum 100) for the right to call trump. The object is to take as many > tricks as possible, to take as many points as possible, and to 'save' the > rook. If you want to learn more about Rook, this website is a good place > to start: http://www.pagat.com/kt5/rook.html > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: twerppy@aol.com > To: dctrk@c2i2.com ; padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > > > I always?had apple butter topped with cottage cheese.? It was lunch as a > kid.? My grandmother always treated me to a special drink when I would > visit.? Milk with vanilla in it.? Boy was it good.? She had an alterier > motive also.? It would calm down an active child.? Think she dosed me with > the alcohol content.? Never got sleepy.? We would play Rook and I have > that as very fond memories of her.? She had 6 boys and 2 girls.? Born in > the 1800's.? I now live in the house where she spent her last years.? > Connie > > Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:37 am > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > > > > I looked it up on line, and yes, I agree by dictionary definition it is a > spreadable cheese. I like cottage cheese mixed with just about any kind > of fruit, and do get some now and then. They say it is healthy. I used to > use jelly or jams in it, but since I am now low-level diabetic, I crush > fresh fruits and mix with it. It is good that way also. > > Speaking of machines, my Uncle Teddy and Aunt Toots used to call their > car a machine, don't remember ever hearing them call it a car, > automobile, > or 'Chevy". > > Don in AZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    08/30/2007 02:43:39
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases:Herr Reed
    2. Richard Emlin Reed
    3. Ja, ja, Herr is the German equivalent for Mister. I may have some difficulty with Schlauchboot. Schlauch means hose, as garden or fire. Remember rubber innertubes in automobile (excuse me, car) tires? Well, a Schlauch is/was also a rubber innertube. And a Schlauchboot is a rubber boat, boot being German for boat; i.e. a rubber dinghy. A better name for a dinghy of whatever construction would be kleine Schiffsboot, little ship's boat. I hope I have redeemed myself. Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Raber" <pigeonrock@earthlink.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases:Herr Reed > > The German word, as per Webster, is Schlauchboot. Is Herr another word > for > Mr. in German, just wondering, or should I say something else? I want to > be proper. > > Ok, pronounce this with explanation please! Schlauchboot. Cathy

    08/29/2007 04:12:09
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases:Herr Reed
    2. Cathy Raber
    3. The German word, as per Webster, is Schlauchboot. Is Herr another word for Mr. in German, just wondering, or should I say something else? I want to be proper. Ok, pronounce this with explanation please! Schlauchboot. Cathy > [Original Message] > From: marysaerie <marysaerie@stny.rr.com> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/29/2007 2:35:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > > Around here, we use the word 'dingy' (ding-ee) to indicate someone who is not > playing with a full deck, a bit off kilter, squirrelly, or nuts! We're always telling > our dog, Dancer, that she is a dingy dog because she gets crazy when she wants > to play. <smile> > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Emlin Reed > To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > > > Dingy is one of those words whose meaning is in the eye of the beholder. My > American Heritage dictionary defines it as "Darkened with smoke and grime; > dirty or discolored. 2. Shabby, drab, or squalid". My Webster's New World > German Dictionary defines dingy as schmuddelig. In a display of > inconsistency, they define schmudd(e)lig as messy, dirty, filthy. I always > equated dingy with dark, gloomy. > Dingy is pronounced DIN-jy. Dinghy, pronounced DING-Y, according to American > Heritage, is 1. A small open boat carried as a tender, lifeboat, or pleasure > craft on a larger boat. 2. A small rowboat. 3. An inflatable rubber life > raft. The German word, as per Webster, is Schlauchboot. > Richard Emlin Reed > Wesley Chapel, FL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases > > > > Dingy!! UGH!!! I just spent about 10 minutes looking up that word in the > > dictionary. I couldn't find it at all. Of course, I wasn't looking for > > the word, just the spelling. There is a difference. When looking for the > > spelling, you aren't concentrating on any words that you see. I just > > couldn't figure out WHY I couldn't find it!!! That is until I was going > > to email the list for the spelling, and went to look at the title of > > dictionary I was using to tell you all that I couldn't find it in.....are > > you ready for this? > > I had the wrong RED dictionary. Here I spent all that time looking in my > > Spanish dictionary!!! My brother-in-law must have switched them, when he > > was using my computer :o) LOL, the way the brain works at times_well, my > > brain, I should say !!! I just KNEW that dingy/dindgy had to be a word!!! > > I thought dingy was a small boat, and that's what my spellcheck kept > > giving me as the spelling. > > Okay, Richard Emlin Reed, what is the German for that word. Now not dumb > > :O) but dingy. > > Thanks! > > Lynn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM

    08/29/2007 03:28:23
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Relaxing Language
    2. Cathy Raber
    3. "Mansfield Park", Lynn your going to have to tell me more, because I don't think I've ever seen or heard of that one?! What year did it come out & what's the plot? Cathy > [Original Message] > From: Lynn Vondran <lynnvondran@att.net> > To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/29/2007 5:02:56 PM > Subject: [PD-LIFE] Relaxing Language > > I believe that is why I can't stop watching movies like Pride n Prejudice, Emma, Sense and Sensibility, and all the others. I find the music comforting, and the way they speak actually very charming!!! And, they use words that have long stopped being used in regular speaking here in the states...statements like "I'm mortified". In fact, I have Mansfield Park on right at the moment, because I wanted to hear what the one aunt brought home from a get-together they had. She said it was "a cream cheese". > :o) > Lynn > I wrote: > PS I'm all for going back to "English speaking" as the English do, in England, don't get me wrong. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM

    08/29/2007 03:16:32
    1. [PD-LIFE] Language and Flowers
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. Thanks, Karen!!! On that note, I don't think that's the only reason, but could be part of the reason. There has to be another reason, because I've noticed it in the broadcasting sector of our society, and even in the "Our Town" Series on PBS. WOW!!!! Did Reading ever change since I lived there!!!!! I saw it starting to change, but 40%!!! And, Richard Emlin Reed, Don't we wish that were the case, that people want to learn PA Dutch. I know what is bringing them to Columbia...cheaper living, though our taxes for HOMEOWNERS are very high. I just found out why people move OUT of Columbia, yesterday, to closeby communities such as Mt. Joy, and Marietta, and that is because it costs less to live in those places. How did Columbia get this way? I know, but I better keep my mouth shut. It's a very sore subject lately around these parts. Everyone should learn PA Dutch_I believe it's a reminder of a simpler way of living_not easier, mind you, but a simpler way_a more family oriented way of living for sure. I'm going to sidetrack the conversation a bit: 1) I talked it over with my neighbor about planting the Hollyhocks, and she is all for it. 2) I didn't know that you have to pinch back Royal Candles Veronica until I googled it :o( Now I have these weird looking flowers out front, and they have been weird since they started dying from the bottom of the flowers up. It says that if you pinch them off, it flowers longer, and gets hardier. Drats!!! 3) As far as my Madame Butterfly Scotch Broom aka Cytisus x Scoparius 'Madame Butterfly', does anyone know if this grassy, bush plant is to be cut back at all? If so, when and how much. Thanks! Lynn Richard Emlin Reed wrote: 40% 'ispanics, did ye say? MY! My! Did it ever occur to anyone to wonder, since the big corporations sent all the jobs overseas, what is attracting all those 'ispanics to Reading? Could they be wanting to learn to speak PA-Dutch. }:-) Karen of Berks wrote: > Lynn, I've noticed that as well. My thinking is that it might be an > influence of the growing Latino population in Reading making their "mark" > on the everyday language. I could be totally off base and have nothing > concrete to base that guess upon, but it seems to my ear as though Spanish > speakers who use English as a second language will ofton drop a leading H > when speaking English. Since Hispanics now constitute almost 40% of > Reading's population, it would just make sense that we would begin to see > their influence on our general population regional accents. > Lynn wrote: "As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living > for 53 years, I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news > reporters, as "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a > consonent, therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an > istorical" whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it > rather hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they > prononce this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and > today they say istorical, and this is all just lately. > Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in > Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, > I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe > if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it > there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been > there lately?"

    08/29/2007 12:52:26
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical
    2. Richard Emlin Reed
    3. 40% 'ispanics, did ye say? MY! My! Did it ever occur to anyone to wonder, since the big corporations sent all the jobs overseas, what is attracting all those 'ispanics to Reading? Could they be wanting to learn to speak PA-Dutch. }:-) Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Fox" <karenmfox@verizon.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical > Lynn wrote: "As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living > for 53 years, I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news > reporters, as "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a > consonent, therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an > istorical" whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it > rather hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they > prononce this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and > today they say istorical, and this is all just lately. > Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in > Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, > I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe > if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it > there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been > there lately?" > ***************** > > Lynn, I've noticed that as well. My thinking is that it might be an > influence of the growing Latino population in Reading making their "mark" > on the everyday language. I could be totally off base and have nothing > concrete to base that guess upon, but it seems to my ear as though Spanish > speakers who use English as a second language will ofton drop a leading H > when speaking English. Since Hispanics now constitute almost 40% of > Reading's population, it would just make sense that we would begin to see > their influence on our general population regional accents. > > Karen from Berks > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/29/2007 12:25:50
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] 'istorical
    2. Karen Fox
    3. Lynn wrote: "As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living for 53 years, I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news reporters, as "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a consonent, therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an istorical" whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it rather hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they prononce this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and today they say istorical, and this is all just lately. Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been there lately?" ***************** Lynn, I've noticed that as well. My thinking is that it might be an influence of the growing Latino population in Reading making their "mark" on the everyday language. I could be totally off base and have nothing concrete to base that guess upon, but it seems to my ear as though Spanish speakers who use English as a second language will ofton drop a leading H when speaking English. Since Hispanics now constitute almost 40% of Reading's population, it would just make sense that we would begin to see their influence on our general population regional accents. Karen from Berks

    08/29/2007 11:51:35
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] You say Potato, I say Potahto :o)
    2. Richard Emlin Reed
    3. I know how you feel, Lynn. And now you know how I feel about "aren't I". It is sad, but true, that usage determines pronunciation and spelling. I guess you might call it grammatical correctness which, like the political kind, is irksome. I still say ve-HIC-el; and even, sometimes, we-HIC-el. I think "an 'istorical" grew out of ease of pronunciation (I wonder if anyone says pronounciation). "An 'istorical" requires one less aspiration than "a historical"; and is, therefore, easier to say. And, I suppose, one could call attention to an 'ysterical person. }:-) And now we come to the matter of spelling. Even though we say "an 'istorical event"; would we write it that way; or would we write "an historical event, or a historical event? Eh? Richard Emlin Reed Wesley Chapel, FL ps Yes, by all means, let's go back to "English speaking". Lynn, we would never "get you wrong"! Would the English say that? }:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <lynnvondran@att.net> To: <padutch-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] You say Potato, I say Potahto :o) > Guess I've been pronoucing it wrong all those years I worked CNA Insurance > Underwriters_office population at that time, 1200 people :o) I don't > remember a single soul pronouncing it ve-icle_not even the management, > agents or underwriters :o) LOL! But, then again, one of our higher ups > pronounced it "Wehicle", and at my CARE Award reception, asked for a > different mic, because the one he was using had an accent :o) > Oh well, I guess hicks abound in my hometown, of Reading :o) Strange, > huh. I wonder how the majority say it now? > As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living for 53 years, > I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news reporters, as > "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a consonent, > therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an istorical" > whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it rather > hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they prononce > this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and today > they say istorical, and this is all just lately. > Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in > Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, > I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe > if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it > there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been > there lately? > :o) > Lynn > PS I'm all for going back to "English speaking" as the English do, in > England, don't get me wrong.

    08/29/2007 11:48:15
    1. [PD-LIFE] Relaxing Language
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. I believe that is why I can't stop watching movies like Pride n Prejudice, Emma, Sense and Sensibility, and all the others. I find the music comforting, and the way they speak actually very charming!!! And, they use words that have long stopped being used in regular speaking here in the states...statements like "I'm mortified". In fact, I have Mansfield Park on right at the moment, because I wanted to hear what the one aunt brought home from a get-together they had. She said it was "a cream cheese". :o) Lynn I wrote: PS I'm all for going back to "English speaking" as the English do, in England, don't get me wrong.

    08/29/2007 11:02:55
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] REO Speedwagon/Speedway
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. Hi Tracy, Well, I remember REO Speedway announcements on the radio when I was younger, I lived in Reading :o) So, you probably did hear it either on the radio or on TV, which is another place I could have heard it. Now I know_I love that song, too, that REO Speedwagon did. I'll have to go to the site when I have time. At that site the Joe gave us, they have announcements for all the dirt track racing. I was looking up all the ones still held in PA :o) Brought back so many, many memories. :o) Lynn Tracy wrote: Hi Lynn, REO Speedwagon sang "I can't fight this feelin", and info can be found at www.speedwagon.com. I thought I had the album but can't find so it must be 8-track and they are packed away. I looked for Rockford, IN and found two. One is Wells Co. and is south of Ft. Wayne on I-69 and the other is in Jackson Co. and south of Indianapolis on I-65. REO Speedway is referred to as a Kart Track. You would not believe how many people say REO SpeedWAY when they are talking about the band, SpeedWAGON. I thought I had vaguely remembered REO Speedway being announced on the radio from when I lived in Highland, IN, but they are so far apart I must have been thinking of something else. That was 30 yrs ago too.

    08/29/2007 09:54:09
    1. [PD-LIFE] You say Potato, I say Potahto :o)
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. Guess I've been pronoucing it wrong all those years I worked CNA Insurance Underwriters_office population at that time, 1200 people :o) I don't remember a single soul pronouncing it ve-icle_not even the management, agents or underwriters :o) LOL! But, then again, one of our higher ups pronounced it "Wehicle", and at my CARE Award reception, asked for a different mic, because the one he was using had an accent :o) Oh well, I guess hicks abound in my hometown, of Reading :o) Strange, huh. I wonder how the majority say it now? As for the word "Historical"_all of a sudden, after living for 53 years, I'm hearing people starting to pronounce it, even news reporters, as "istorical" and we were always taught NOT to use an before a consonent, therefore we always said "a Historical" whatever. Now it's "an istorical" whatever, and I find that "ysterical" :o) Actually I find it rather hysterical hearing people all of a sudden change the way they prononce this word. Why just yesterday they were saying, Historical, and today they say istorical, and this is all just lately. Wonder when this all changed, because it was definitely not that way in Reading 17 years ago, when I lived there. And, when I go back for visits, I have never once heard anyone say "ve-icle" or "istorical". Now, maybe if I went to the "istorical Society of Berks County" I would hear it there? Don't really know_anyone know? Karen? or anyone who has been there lately? :o) Lynn PS I'm all for going back to "English speaking" as the English do, in England, don't get me wrong.

    08/29/2007 09:28:48
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] A Glenside Story_Adventures Along the Tully
    2. All I can say to this is Whow! You are braver that I ever was,Lynn. Quite a story -spinner you are,as well. Jerilyn

    08/29/2007 09:28:11
    1. Re: [PD-LIFE] Words and phrases
    2. Lynn Vondran
    3. Are Rook cards still sold? I haven't been in that section of the store for quite some time. Thanks! Lynn Mary explained the card game Rook

    08/29/2007 09:11:15