HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY MARY! :-) Rick B ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Vondran To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Mary's life on the farm Mary!! What a wonderful story of down on the farm!!!!!!! And, I sat here laughing at your discription of the cats reactions and personalities! Loved the names you were going to call them if they misbehaved, too !!!!! I always wanted to live in a farm, but as you all know, I wouldn't have made it on a farm where you had to butcher animals. But, I LOVE the rest of farm life, and was always able to experience just a little bit of it down on "Grammom" and "Grampop" Rothenberger's farm near Jacksonwald/Exeter Township area. So, September 1st is your birthday!!! It's our daughter's, also!!! :o) Lynn

Hi List: I just read an article and thought I would pass it on. They said to make worn tombstones writings more legible to brush off dust etc. then use a squirt bottle of water. One time when we visited a Massachusetts grave yard and I took pictures in the rain the tombstones were very legible. I wish I had thought of all this on my past summer trip to Berks Co graveyards! Sally -------------------- Hope everyone is having a great Labor Day Weekend. :-) I'll have to go back into my files, but as long as you're not using a chemical based product its OK. Its not recommended to do any rubbings on the stone of any kind as it further deteriorates the already fragile and worn inscription. The approach that works best for me is taking a picture of the inscription with a good digital camera or a high end 35 mm camera. I use a Cannon AE-1 that my parents bought me in 1981. Another way is using a mirror reflecting on the inscription. I do have a question for anyone that might know. What's the safest way to remove moss and mildew from a tombstone? I've encountered this on numerous trips to cemeteries with my ancestor's stones covered in the stuff. Thanks! Rick B

Hi List: I just read an article and thought I would pass it on. They said to make worn tombstones writings more legible to brush off dust etc. then use a squirt bottle of water. One time when we visited a Massachusetts grave yard and I took pictures in the rain the tombstones were very legible. I wish I had thought of all this on my past summer trip to Berks Co graveyards! Sally

Sheila, I would like to see your Incredi-mail sherry Sheila Kline <sheilakline47@yahoo.com> wrote: Hey Lynn, I am not sure what you mean by my messages containing different data. Can you please explain? It may be because I am submitting from my yahoo account, instead of the incredi-mail account that I had signed up to receive the PaDutch-Life newsletter. When I had tried to submit messages from the incredi-mail account they all bounced because of the "color rich" background in the incredi-mail package. There are some wonderful scenes, colors, motion figures, etc. but they limit my availability to submit material to newsletters, etc. I can do letters, etc. but there are certain things that bounce. If you can let me know what is happening, I will try to fix, explain, etc. Sheila in WV And if you want a really neat message sent from my incredi-mail, send me your email address, and I will send you on from the incredi-mail. I am sheilakline47@lzy.net.com --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

Hey Lynn, I am not sure what you mean by my messages containing different data. Can you please explain? It may be because I am submitting from my yahoo account, instead of the incredi-mail account that I had signed up to receive the PaDutch-Life newsletter. When I had tried to submit messages from the incredi-mail account they all bounced because of the "color rich" background in the incredi-mail package. There are some wonderful scenes, colors, motion figures, etc. but they limit my availability to submit material to newsletters, etc. I can do letters, etc. but there are certain things that bounce. If you can let me know what is happening, I will try to fix, explain, etc. Sheila in WV And if you want a really neat message sent from my incredi-mail, send me your email address, and I will send you on from the incredi-mail. I am sheilakline47@lzy.net.com --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

GREAT!!! Thanks, Joan :o) I'll be heading out for a family picnic in about 30 minutes. I'm taking unhealthy strawberry cake, and two VERY healthy salads :o) One I call an Italian Sandwich Salad, which is nothing more than: Lettuce Tomatoes Onions Provolone cheese and Salami Dressing: Canola, or Olive Oil Red Wine Vinegar Crushed Red Pepper (just a touch) salt and pepper And another salad of just the cut up Lettuce, Tomato, Onion and Carrots. The cake is just a 9x13-inch White Cake, the layer cut in half through the body, with a thread, making two thin layers. Glop on the container of whipped frosting, after removing the tip layer, put the layers together, and press down a little. Spread two containers of thaw out frozen strawberries over the top, and serve with whipped topping. I make this with canned peaches, too, and it went over really big! Use the juice and all when spreading the fruit over top. See, it's so unhealthy for you, but GOOD!!!!! :o) Lynn Joan wrote: Lynn- Nothing wrong there, it is just how Outlook Express shows the sender header in a reply. In a message dated 9/3/2007 9:26:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, lynnvondran@att.net writes: I see where Sheila's post says a lot more than most posts to the list, and includes On Behalf Of Sheila Kline? Is something wrong? Just don't want any of our members bounced off, that would be terrible :o( Or am I just NOW noticing something that was always in the address of her messages? I received Anna's just right.

Hi Mary......I am so impressed with your "unending list" of wonderful projects and activities that you have planned to start/finish after your recent retirement. First, let me wish you HAPPY RETIREMENT!! I would love to know more about your projects as you tackle them, and I am interested to know what the book is about your are co-writing/editing with your friend. It sounds as if is an "in-depth" project, as well as the building, yard work, etc. I too am in the process of writing short stories about my WV childhood on our family life. My plans are to include them in what I am calling "The Second Creek Chronicles" - just plain folk stories about a city turned kid introduced to a new life in the hills and hollers of WV. For a brief flavor of my writing style - I have done one about the time my mom and dad ventured into the attic of our "old" farm house, and killed bats - many bats by burning sulphur and swatting them with tennis racktets....it's called "The B&T Story (not BLT) ----bats and tennis rackets. It was quite an event, and left some funny memories to write about. I interject humor with excitement, and tell the stories in the "John Boy Style", or as the boy who tells "The Christmas Story"did in reliving his childhood days. I am doing it for fun, and a way to remember the past. As Lynn is writing hers to leave for her daughter, I am writing mine to never let go of the simplier days in life! Best wishes as you continue on your journey and most of all, please enjoy this "new found" time!! We will be waiting to hear about your progress! Sheila in WV --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

In a message dated 9/3/2007 9:26:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, lynnvondran@att.net writes: I see where Sheila's post says a lot more than most posts to the list, and includes On Behalf Of Sheila Kline? Is something wrong? Just don't want any of our members bounced off, that would be terrible :o( Or am I just NOW noticing something that was always in the address of her messages? I received Anna's just right. ---- Lynn- Nothing wrong there, it is just how Outlook Express shows the sender header in a reply. Joan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Okay, now I'm concerned a bit :o) I see where Sheila's post says a lot more than most posts to the list, and includes On Behalf Of Sheila Kline? Is something wrong? Just don't want any of our members bounced off, that would be terrible :o( Or am I just NOW noticing something that was always in the address of her messages? I received Anna's just right. Oh, that chicken recipe I sent!!! Well, warmed up in the deep fryer (not good for you) tastes GREAT_or in the oven, but I don't like it warmed up in the micro_it's rather mushy warmed up that way. Happy Labor Day!!!! I was ACtually in LABOR one Labor Day weekend_hah, it ACtually could have been ON Laber Day_anyone have a calendar, who can help me figure this out. In 1981, when did Labor Day fall? Thanks! :o) Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: Del Bristol To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] THE EDITOR OR THE PATIENT? -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sheila Kline Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:14 PM To: PaDutch-Life@rootsweb.com Subject: [PD-LIFE] THE EDITOR OR THE PATIENT?

I might have the book to forward to you and pass along to anyone else who would like to read it. I'll let you know...Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sheila Kline Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:14 PM To: PaDutch-Life@rootsweb.com Subject: [PD-LIFE] THE EDITOR OR THE PATIENT? Jim.....then do we get our words from the editor or the patient? Maybe, that's why some of our words are so "crazy"!!! I want to read that book! It must be an 'istorical one. Sheila in WV --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have read the book as well and promised myself to read anything Winchester writes. That was quite an interesting book. Try the one about the father of geology written by the same author. Smiles, Anna -----Original Message----- From: padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:padutch-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WolfordMigration@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:50 PM To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] The Professor & The Madman I have read this book. It is fascinating. Can you imagine the editor of the Oxford Dictionary upon going to meet the doctor who submitted the words for the dictionary and finding him an inmate of the asylum rather than a doctor there? Jim in VT ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WOW!!! You surely are ambitious!!!! Are you doing this indoor work all by yourself????? I have a friend from childhood who did her whole historical house herself. I find it facinating when people can do that kind of work. I sit here and dream about doing it, as I watch HGTV!!!! You'll have to let us know more about the book, WHEN it is published. Speaking of vegetables! Did everyone know that you are to trim tomato plants, so that they bear more fruit ? I just read about this, went out to experiment on my dwindling patio tomatoes and grape tomatoes, and sure enough, I have all new sprouts, and already new blossoms showing. I may not get the fruit, but am getting the experience of pruning my tomato plants for next year :o) Tuesday, or maybe still this afternoon, I have to get out and prune the Rose of Sharon, so that all the seed pods don't explode all over the place_though nothing has ever come of it before, this would be just the year they would take around here :o). Well, Mary, it certainly sounds like you have your days all mapped out to the fullest!! Have a ball !!!! Have to bake a cake, and make a salad for tomorrow. Read you after Labor Day! :o) Lynn Mary wrote: Thanks, Lynn. Here's my plan of action so far: I actually am editing/co-writing a novel for/with a friend of mine. I have done the initial rough edit on 14 chapters and have now done the first of several heavy edits on the first three chapters. I believe he plans to have 30 chapters plus a prologue and an epilogue. Then he hopes to get a movie deal. I also have to re-do my bedroom: new carpeting, paint, and draperies (net necessarily in that order). I already have the new bed cover and pillows all made and most of the accessories purchased. I also have a 72 x 72 wall unit to build once I get all the rest of it done. After that, I have floor tile to lay in the kitchen and a 10 x 30 addition on my house to finish: taping and spackling; the next layer of subfloor; wainscoting; fabricing the walls; all the trim; and finally, the carpeting. In October, my brother (who owns his own landscaping business) is coming in to build my existing retaining wall in the back yard up two more courses, and then extend it to the left side of my property with terraces down from there and a set of steps up to the top of the back yard. Before he can do that, I need to go out and remove all the marble chips from a 40' x 2' area and move them to the front wall so they won't get buried. This all came about because we want to build a 10 x 12 shed in the back right corner, but we needed to have it dug to level. Once all the back yard work gets done, I can build the shed. I'm hoping to get one of my 4 BILs (he is a builder/remodeler) to come in and help with that so we can get'er done before snow flies. After all that gets done, I am a free agent until spring rolls around again and I can start planting the terraces. I miss my veggies and want to get some in at least one terrace. I have other huge pots for my tomatoes and a garden bench (I bought two wooden planters and built a 6' bench between them) that I use to vine my squash or cucumbers on (whichever I plant) to keep them off the ground. It works really well, too. That's the only way I can have anything growing because we have way too many critters here: deer, possum, skunk, foxes, racoons, birds of all kinds, rabbits, woodchucks, and the occasional bear. The VP for whom I worked put a 6' fence around his garden and the deer still jumped it and the rest of the critters burrowed underneath, so I'm not even going to try it. The only difficulty I see with all of the above is that I don't move as quickly as I used to. The wonderful part of that is that I don't have to move as quickly as I used to. The bad part of that is that I can't move as quickly as I used to, even though my head keeps playing that 'I am Woman, hear me roar' song...... you know the one about which I'm talking, I'm sure. Any way..... Thanks again, Lynn. I am going to do the best I can to fully enjoy the Fall of my life. And, Yes! that does include places to go, people to see, and things to do.

Thanks, Lynn. Here's my plan of action so far: I actually am editing/co-writing a novel for/with a friend of mine. I have done the initial rough edit on 14 chapters and have now done the first of several heavy edits on the first three chapters. I believe he plans to have 30 chapters plus a prologue and an epilogue. Then he hopes to get a movie deal. I also have to re-do my bedroom: new carpeting, paint, and draperies (net necessarily in that order). I already have the new bed cover and pillows all made and most of the accessories purchased. I also have a 72 x 72 wall unit to build once I get all the rest of it done. After that, I have floor tile to lay in the kitchen and a 10 x 30 addition on my house to finish: taping and spackling; the next layer of subfloor; wainscoting; fabricing the walls; all the trim; and finally, the carpeting. In October, my brother (who owns his own landscaping business) is coming in to build my existing retaining wall in the back yard up two more courses, and then extend it to the left side of my property with terraces down from there and a set of steps up to the top of the back yard. Before he can do that, I need to go out and remove all the marble chips from a 40' x 2' area and move them to the front wall so they won't get buried. This all came about because we want to build a 10 x 12 shed in the back right corner, but we needed to have it dug to level. Once all the back yard work gets done, I can build the shed. I'm hoping to get one of my 4 BILs (he is a builder/remodeler) to come in and help with that so we can get'er done before snow flies. After all that gets done, I am a free agent until spring rolls around again and I can start planting the terraces. I miss my veggies and want to get some in at least one terrace. I have other huge pots for my tomatoes and a garden bench (I bought two wooden planters and built a 6' bench between them) that I use to vine my squash or cucumbers on (whichever I plant) to keep them off the ground. It works really well, too. That's the only way I can have anything growing because we have way too many critters here: deer, possum, skunk, foxes, racoons, birds of all kinds, rabbits, woodchucks, and the occasional bear. The VP for whom I worked put a 6' fence around his garden and the deer still jumped it and the rest of the critters burrowed underneath, so I'm not even going to try it. The only difficulty I see with all of the above is that I don't move as quickly as I used to. The wonderful part of that is that I don't have to move as quickly as I used to. The bad part of that is that I can't move as quickly as I used to, even though my head keeps playing that 'I am Woman, hear me roar' song...... you know the one about which I'm talking, I'm sure. Any way..... Thanks again, Lynn. I am going to do the best I can to fully enjoy the Fall of my life. And, Yes! that does include places to go, people to see, and things to do. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Vondran To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] 8-tracks and players Well, Mary!!!!! HAPPY RETIREMENT!!!!!! Hope your days of retirement are full of things to do and places and people to see :o) About a year after I stopped working, I looked back and wondered how I fit a full day of work in. LOL!!! Enjoy your retirement! :o) Lynn PS We have hundreds of cassettes, and albums to transfer to CDs someday_hah, whenever we have time to figure out what you need to do it, and how to. Mary wrote: I have a whole box of 8 tracks and two more of cassettes. I also have a combination AM/FM record player that plays everything and can record to cassette from everything. I've had it since 1988 and it is still (knock on wood) going strong. It is so funny to hear the 8 tracks play. Now that I am retired (officially as of tomorrow), I want to transfer all the 8-tracks to cassette. Just one more project to add to my 'honey-do' list (except I'm the honey). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

--- Jim wrote: > I didn't remember that as the last page. That wasn't the end of the > book *********************************** Oh, Okay. Then I guess I'll read the book and see what the last page is afterall. Sounds like a mighty twist. tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Welcome back Jean and Barry!!! Hope your trip was productive and inspiring. Yes, Flinch was a favorite of Lindsey's, too. I actually didn't play it until after I was married, and Mike introduced the game to us. So, Skip-o and Flinch are similar? Well, then I won't get a Skip-o game, because we have a few decks of Flinch around here. :o) Lynn Jean wrote: <Flinch is a great game for young children who are just learning their numbers...>' AND <'m back from the trip to Ukraine and Czech Republic... will write a bit more about it soon... (Two months of catching up to do!!)> Judy wrote: Skip-o is the modern version of Flinch. My grandparents used to play > Flinch in the early 1930s. I found a remake of the game online. It is > fun > to play, and goes quick.

Oh, Karen, in case you are keeping this for your family research, that library where you were allowed to go was the North West Branch_if you are talking about the one across the Schuylkill Avenue bridge? We loved that library. And, did you know that our secret bushes were right where you went to the fence, to watch the trains at Carpenter Steel, at the Hensler Homes? They were Blackberry, Rasberry, and Black Rasberry bushes :o) We would go back there and eat our fill !!!! Did you ever find them? :o) Lynn Karen wrote: The NE library branch, the Glenside elementery school property and of course, the fence at the rear of the Hensler Homes. We would stand at that fence and watch the trains at Carpenter Steel.

Hi Karen, Yes, Mom kept a tight hold onto me, also, until I was 12. Then I met my friends across Schuylkill Avenue, and spent a lot of time there, where it was much safer fpr kids. By the time you moved to the housing project, things started to change a lot. When I was ages 4 thru 10, it was such a GREAT place to live. It was extremely safe no matter where you went in the project. After that, you had to be VERY careful at certain times of the day, in certain areas; but Glenside was one of the last, of the projects in Reading, to get really bad. It was around the time that you moved there, that it wasn't safe to go trick or treating anymore, unless you knew the people. That would have been around the time that the first razor blade was found in an apple, which was given out by someone living on Avenue A, which was the same Avenue you lived on, only you lived at the other end of that Avenue, and where it was figured it was given out was on Avenue A, between, Avenue C and D. We kids, who lived on Avenue B, weren't allowed to go to Avenue A much at all, after that. I think all of our parents just felt better having us in our own neighborhoods. And we all met at the main playground at the Reading Housing Authority Building, or the Good News Club, and 4H Club held in the basement of that building...probably in the exact same area where your mother helped with the Head Start program. I vaguely remember that. That must have been when I started working my summers in the office at the Housing Authority, when I was 14. And, the same place we held church, when our church, Christ Lutheran, where you went to Brownies, was expanding. The Housing Authority had a very nice building, didn't they!!! I loved working there. Did you live near the Fairchilds? I was a friend of Sandy's, and all the girls had a crush on her brother Chip :o) I had a lot of friends who lived on Avenue A, around the time you and your family did. Yes, when we visited "Grammom" and "Grampop" Rothenberger on the farm, near Jacksonwald, I would run out as far as I could in the fields!!! It was like that movie "Born Free" ! My second cousin now has the farm, and it is a preserved farm. We still go there on the 4th of July for their McCoy reunion. Yes, the mildweed pods, bull-rushes, spit bugs :o) LOL!!!! Back swimmers in the water trough, all GREAT memories. :o) Lynn PS You know how hard it was to spell Skoo-kul the correct way, don't you :o) Karen wrote: I was quite young when I lived in Glenside...we were never allowed to wander down by the Tully or the Schuylkill, even though we had older friends who would adventure down there, especially to go swimming. In 1939, when she was seven years old, my mother's 5 year old brother drowned while he & a friend were playing near the Black River, across the road from their home in upstate NY. The boys were not allowed to cross the road and get close to the river, but they snuck out and did anyway. The rapids in the springtime were just too strong and fast...he was pulled out about 200 yards downstream, but could not be revived. So my mother was adament that we were NEVER to go to the Tully without an adult. My boundaries where I was allowed to wander were the Glenside side of Schuylkill Ave, The NE library branch, the Glenside elementery school property and of course, the fence at the rear of the Hensler Homes. We would stand at that fence and watch the trains at Carpenter Steel. Anyw! here I went within those boundaries I need to have a friend along, I was to never wander by myself outside of our "front and back" home rows. Even when we walked to school, the kids in our block would walk together as a group. But when we visited at the farm, all those restrictions would be lifted! We could wander where we pleased, climb the trees and just run and be free. One of my favorite things was to come across a milkweed pod that was about to burst, popping it open and blowing the wisps into the breeze and imagining where the wind would take them. I remember often taking things I found at the farms (like milkweed pods, horse chesnuts, blown out guinea hen eggs) to show and tell. BTW, it cracks me up to hear non-natives try to pronounce Schuylkill for the first time. LOL we always just called it the SKOO-kul.

Thanks again, everyone. Sally, Maybe, just maybe_it certainly would be a JOY to know!!! Hugs right back to you and the list!!! :o) Lynn Sally wrote: Lynn: you have the gift! No one I know tells a story or retells happenings like you do. I so enjoy hearing your "accounts" of happenings, Listening to you tell about walking that path I can visualize it in my mind. I believe you do have Indian in your ancestry, your story telling is your passed down gift from them. Hugs

Well, Mary!!!!! HAPPY RETIREMENT!!!!!! Hope your days of retirement are full of things to do and places and people to see :o) About a year after I stopped working, I looked back and wondered how I fit a full day of work in. LOL!!! Enjoy your retirement! :o) Lynn PS We have hundreds of cassettes, and albums to transfer to CDs someday_hah, whenever we have time to figure out what you need to do it, and how to. Mary wrote: I have a whole box of 8 tracks and two more of cassettes. I also have a combination AM/FM record player that plays everything and can record to cassette from everything. I've had it since 1988 and it is still (knock on wood) going strong. It is so funny to hear the 8 tracks play. Now that I am retired (officially as of tomorrow), I want to transfer all the 8-tracks to cassette. Just one more project to add to my 'honey-do' list (except I'm the honey).

I have a whole box of 8 tracks and two more of cassettes. I also have a combination AM/FM record player that plays everything and can record to cassette from everything. I've had it since 1988 and it is still (knock on wood) going strong. It is so funny to hear the 8 tracks play. Now that I am retired (officially as of tomorrow), I want to transfer all the 8-tracks to cassette. Just one more project to add to my 'honey-do' list (except I'm the honey). Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy To: padutch-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] 8-tracks and players --- Lynn wrote: > So, Tracy, and Cathy, are you telling me that you still have your > 8-track tapes? Do you still have the player, too? WOW!!!!! ***************** I do. I have 40-60 8-tracks packed away. I have an 8-track/am/fm player (my brother uses it for the fm radio). And my stereo (which I bought with babysitting money in 1983) has 8-track/cassette/turn table/am/fm. I really need to get the 8-tracks out and check to make sure they still work. Could have quite a bit of money sitting there. tracy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PADUTCH-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message