Thanks, Joan :o) It's weird, because as soon as I boot it up in the morning, I look to see if it's below 100% and it's always at that. I'll let it run down once a month or so. But never let it plugged in, when I'm not using it_well, I do let it in sleep mode, if I know I'm getting back on in a few minutes. Checked the ram, and it is only 2. Mistake :o( We should have gotten more ram. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks everyone for all the advice. This list is great! Hugs from a very, very cold Columbia. As I just told Peggy, we are at 6 degrees, and they said to look at possible below zero. We are at a wind-chill factor of something like 4 below. Take care one and all, and those who are cold, bundle up!!! Lynn Joan wrote: Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Battery Life of a Laptop :o) > Hi, Lynn- > > Jane gave the instructions for running/using your battery which does > extend > the battery life. But you can also run the battery down a bit just by > having > the laptop unplugged when you have it shut down. When you plug it in and > reboot you should see the battery status icon in your systray next to the > clock. > That is the reading you get by hovering the cursor that you mention > below. I'm > not sure what the "little black box" is that you refer to...perhaps it is > a > laptop surge suppressor? > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:30:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi Joan :o) > I unplug my laptop every time I turn it off, during the day, and all > night > it is unplugged, as well as that little box that plugs into the computer > and > outlet. > I'm a little bit confused then. > So, letting the battery run down, isn't unplugging it from the little > black > box it comes with. The little black box unplugged from the outlet is > what > they mean? Then how do you know if it is run almost completely down? > Isn't > the little battery w/plug, at the bottom of the screen, what they are > talking about. The one that measures the charge of the battery in the > laptop? That's what my sister-in-law read in her book she has with hers. > I, too, like Connie, work with my laptop plugged in all the time. Most > of > my friends do, too. They don't know what I am talking about when I asked > if > they let their battery run down once a month, and if they do, how do they > do > it. > I guess I'm asking how does one do it? > I know you all are going to pull your hair out explaining this to me, > because I just don't get it. > Okay, sooooo, if it's NOT the same as running down the battery, that > gives a > reading when you hover over the icon on the lower task bar, then what do > they mean? > I have so much to learn, with this laptop, but I love it, mind you!!!! > I hate to ask Mike to explain these things to me, since he is about sick > of > computers by the time he gets home from work. > I probably have you spinning in your chair, right now, too, huh :o( > Confused Lynn, in Columbia LOL!!!! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Lynn- Jane gave the instructions for running/using your battery which does extend the battery life. But you can also run the battery down a bit just by having the laptop unplugged when you have it shut down. When you plug it in and reboot you should see the battery status icon in your systray next to the clock. That is the reading you get by hovering the cursor that you mention below. I'm not sure what the "little black box" is that you refer to...perhaps it is a laptop surge suppressor? Joan In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:30:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Joan :o) I unplug my laptop every time I turn it off, during the day, and all night it is unplugged, as well as that little box that plugs into the computer and outlet. I'm a little bit confused then. So, letting the battery run down, isn't unplugging it from the little black box it comes with. The little black box unplugged from the outlet is what they mean? Then how do you know if it is run almost completely down? Isn't the little battery w/plug, at the bottom of the screen, what they are talking about. The one that measures the charge of the battery in the laptop? That's what my sister-in-law read in her book she has with hers. I, too, like Connie, work with my laptop plugged in all the time. Most of my friends do, too. They don't know what I am talking about when I asked if they let their battery run down once a month, and if they do, how do they do it. I guess I'm asking how does one do it? I know you all are going to pull your hair out explaining this to me, because I just don't get it. Okay, sooooo, if it's NOT the same as running down the battery, that gives a reading when you hover over the icon on the lower task bar, then what do they mean? I have so much to learn, with this laptop, but I love it, mind you!!!! I hate to ask Mike to explain these things to me, since he is about sick of computers by the time he gets home from work. I probably have you spinning in your chair, right now, too, huh :o( Confused Lynn, in Columbia LOL!!!!

Thanks, Jane. How often are you supposed to do this? My sister-in-law said that her manual says once a month? Does that sound right? Yes, I don't like the way my scanner works, with VISTA. I don't have near the options when I hook it up to my laptop, so I have to go back to my old XP, which is in my office right now, but will soon be upstairs in Mike's office, once he gets a week off work. My old 98 is going to my brother-in-law, if Mike has a place to put some sort of drive (don't know what kind) in the XP. Either way, I still have to use my old XP. He said he is getting me a new scanner and printer someday. Maybe they will work better with the VISTA. Thanks again. :o) Lynn Jane wrote: To run the battery down, just work with the laptop unplugged until you get the message to plug it back in because the battery is almost out. If you always work plugged in, the battery is constantly charged. I save my battery use for when I can't plug in, especially for during power outages. I try not to run on battery too much because they are so expensive to replace once they wear out. As for VISTA. I simply hate it. I have programs I have been using since I was running Windows 95 and which I love and which are easy and do what I need them to do. Most will not run with VISTA so instead of using my laptop all of the time, I have to go back to Hanks desktop which means sitting in his office instead of my nice cozy chair with my laptop. Wish I could go back to XP. I still have trouble finding things I have saved since it seems to put them in places I didn't ask it to. Oh well....

hi, tracy~ i thought about christmas lights...but, being the fairly environmentally responsible person that i am (my daughter calls me the tree hugging hippie...lol), all my christmas lights are the l.e.d. cool lights~they don't put off any heat :-\ ...i found a lightweight fleece throw to toss over her, so hopefully it'll be enough to protect the new growth... my dogs are giving me mixed reviews on the cold...blue is having a ball (but then, he's half husky), but my poor old gator doesn't want any part of it... our area's official high today was 44*, but here at the house, we never hit 40*...they'll calling for a low of 24* tonight....i think i'm gonna pack up and move to florida.... :-) sue (in clear, cold NE Florida) -- ...so, i went to san francisco, found someone's heart...now what? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Tracy <[email protected]> > Sue, > > Can you string the Japanese Plum with Christmas lights to help keep her warm? > Or maybe wrap around trunk to keep warm. > > -tracy >

When you unplug your laptop from the wall and the little box with the computer turned off that normally does not run the battery down. If you are using it running on battery and the battery gets low and needs charging, the computer will beep or tell you some other way that it needs to be charged. You can then plug it in and it will charge. It is best to plug it into the wall outlet first and then the computer, as the transformer in the little box will absorb the surge instead of your computer getting the surge applied to it. Don in AZ

Your laptop uses either a NICAD battery or a NIMH battery. It is a good idea to run the battery down now and then and then recharge it. That will not hurt it at all. It is the same type battery as your cell phone has, just higher voltage and of course, a larger size. Your papers that came with your laptop should explain that. >From time to time I use my laptop on battery, and have been doing that at least once a week for the last year and a half, and it has not hurt it. Don in AZ

Tracy, Yeppers!!!! I haven't used my conventional oven/stove for a long time_almost a year, now!!! Oh, now wait, I did roast the bigger turkey in the conventional oven, but did one of the smaller ones, in the NuWave for Thanksgiving. We loved it! Hams w/the bone are just the BEST!!!! in the NuWave! I use my NuWave about 4 or 5 times a day, most days. You MUST wash the dome after each use, and we did buy an extra dome for the really grease splattering recipes, keeping one of them for making food that doesn't splatter, as the one I keep on the oven, so that it looks nice in the kitchen. Really, I can't wait until tomorrow, when the FlavorWave oven comes. Can't wait to experiment with that one, too. All these posts are going to come to the list one right after the other, as they are collecting in my outbox, while Mike is hard at work on the other computer. I am so hungry for ham 'n' bean soup now!!!! I should have picked up some Northern Beans, when we were at Darankamp's. I better learn how to spell that, if I'm going to shop there :o) Anyone know the correct spelling of that store? Have to email my cousins, now. I'll be back Monday. I know, I said that before. This list is just contageous! Hugs for the weekend. :o) Lynn Tracy wrote: Lynn, We use Great Northern beans. I have no clue what the difference is or would be. I don't know if I have ever had navy beans? The bean soup was delish!! I had to use evaporated milk for the cornbread as I was all out of regular milk. The cornbread has a "funny" taste, not bad as I still ate it, just different. Don't know if it was the evap milk or maybe my eggs were old. Chili always upset my tummy so I stopped eating it 25 years ago. I told Bryan I'd make it for him as he really likes chili but he said he'd do it himself and he wants to use deer meat. I'm thinking about trying chicken, potatoes, corn and maybe noodles or gnocchi in the crock pot next. I was wondering how heavy cream would work to thicken the broth? I've been watching way too much Food Network channel.!! The Elias Brothers/Big Boy in Gaylord, MI makes the best multi-grain pancakes. I just can't remember what all they put in the batter. I know the rolled oats and nuts but I just never can remember the other thing/things. That's what I get for breakfast, without the blueberries and strawberries and honey-something butter. Bryan got home from work last night and was going to build a fire but broke his axe handle while splitting a few logs. I told him I would turn the heat up, as I was frozen and had been all day and just couldn't seem to warm up. I think I may be coming down with a bug. He just grabbed another blanket. We ate a good, hot dinner and both fell asleep around 8pm. I zoned in and out until 1215am and then woke up toasty warm and ready to watch tv. 78* in the house is way too hot for me! My dad use to keep the house about 68* when we were growing up. "Put a jacket on!" was his favorite saying. Now he has the house at 78* and sits there freezing under his blanket. While living alone, and not having much money, I got use to Ohio winters with the heat at 60* and all unnecessary rooms closed off. I just had blankets, and an electric heater for the bathroom and shower time. I want to get a programmable thermostat. So Lynn, you like the NuWave? I always wondered how they worked. Think I would much rather have glass than plastic too.

Thanks, Brenda, for all the mock recipes!!! I don't know if any are the one that is in the MOCK section of THE MANUAL, but will check at another time. Don't remember doing this much with the recipe I have in there; but, I could be remembering wrong. The one sounds really good. Hmmmm, maybe I'll add that one to THE MANUAL, someday. If anyone finds a MOCK Cherry Pie, using tomatoes, lemon juice, sugar, cinnamon, and I'm not sure of the other ingredients, please send it to the list. I've been looking for mine, and can't find it. I'm sure it is hidden in one of my card files, or handwritten books, thought I had them all together, but I didn't. It was one of those recipes to use up tomatoes, when you have way too many from your garden, rather than frying them all. It used red tomatoes. It's from about 18 or 19 years ago. Thanks! Hugs from Columbia! :o) Lynn PS Did the folks, who were having a hard time opening the Word Documents, get them open? Hope so. Don't know what else to do, if you can't open them. Brenda submitted all these great Mock recipes, along with their URLs.

Oh, don't you worry about that, with me. I guess I'm not as careful as I have been, since my foot came off the bottom of my leg the one year, but I am careful. :o) Lynn Trish wrote: > I do hope y'all stay warm and safe---no more skating, falling, thudding or > crunching!

Now that is what I call cold. I just read it to Mike, while he is working, and he said, THAT's cold! Where is Enosburg? I'd look it up, but I'm working on my photo project, and better sit still. Bet you have goosedown stuff up there. Take care!!!! Hugs from a much warmer Columbia, than it is in Enosburg! It is 15 degrees now that the sun went down? It certainly feels colder out there, than earlier when it was 10 degrees. Eppleys wrote: > we hit about 35 below in Enosburg, 8 miles from the Canadian border, at > least it was about 28 below at 8:30 A.M. so figured it was much lower at > early morning. Warmed right up there to zero before noon, now it is cold > again but warm enough to snow a bit.

Has anyone made brown gravy by browning [I use a cast iron skillet and stir till brown] the flour 1 cup to 2 quarts then adding to the left over liquid after cooking a roast. I like pork roast best. After gravy thicken I strip the roast into mouth size bites and stir it into gravy. This is good over toasted bread or biscuits. Add vegetables to side. You can also cook roast and vegetables [Potatoes, carrots, celery, broccoli, onion, peas, green beans, corn, any veg that you like] Cook roast till almost done add cut vegetables and cook till done. Separate roast and vegetables from liquid. Brown flour in a cast iron skillet. Add brown flour1 cup to 2 quarts liquid and cook till thickened then you can cut roast in bite size pieces.Add roast and vegetables to thicken liquid.

Hi Joan :o) I unplug my laptop every time I turn it off, during the day, and all night it is unplugged, as well as that little box that plugs into the computer and outlet. I'm a little bit confused then. So, letting the battery run down, isn't unplugging it from the little black box it comes with. The little black box unplugged from the outlet is what they mean? Then how do you know if it is run almost completely down? Isn't the little battery w/plug, at the bottom of the screen, what they are talking about. The one that measures the charge of the battery in the laptop? That's what my sister-in-law read in her book she has with hers. I, too, like Connie, work with my laptop plugged in all the time. Most of my friends do, too. They don't know what I am talking about when I asked if they let their battery run down once a month, and if they do, how do they do it. I guess I'm asking how does one do it? I know you all are going to pull your hair out explaining this to me, because I just don't get it. Okay, sooooo, if it's NOT the same as running down the battery, that gives a reading when you hover over the icon on the lower task bar, then what do they mean? I have so much to learn, with this laptop, but I love it, mind you!!!! I hate to ask Mike to explain these things to me, since he is about sick of computers by the time he gets home from work. I probably have you spinning in your chair, right now, too, huh :o( Confused Lynn, in Columbia LOL!!!! Joan wrote: > Connie- > > You should run the battery down in that the battery is RECHARGEABLE and > recharges whenever you plug in the laptop. So you are NOT wearing it out > by > letting it run down--you are giving it a longer life. It is best to unplug > the > laptop when you have it turned off also. That will help to run down the > battery > a bit. The thing with the rechargeable batteries is that they "learn" so > if > you never use them they will lose their charge but if you run them down > (just > like a phone battery) then they will take a full charge the next time you > plug > in the computer. > > The battery isn't to keep a backup when the computer is off--that is a > different battery--not the one that powers the laptop when it is > unplugged. > In a message dated 1/16/2009 1:53:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I vaguely remember the only batteries to let run down were phone > batteries.? > I never use my lap top without it being > plugged in.? The battery is to keep back up for when the machine is off > or > for short uses.? They are too expensive to run down completely.? That is > just > my take on it.? Connie > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To run the battery down, just work with the laptop unplugged until you get the message to plug it back in because the battery is almost out.  If you always work plugged in, the battery is constantly charged.  I save my battery use for when I can't plug in, especially for during power outages.  I try not to run on battery too much because they are so expensive to replace once they wear out. As for VISTA.  I simply hate it.  I have programs I have been using since I was running Windows 95 and which I love and which are easy and do what I need them to do.  Most will not run with VISTA so instead of using my laptop all of the time, I have to go back to Hanks desktop which means sitting in his office instead of my nice cozy chair with my laptop.  Wish I could go back to XP.  I still have trouble finding things I have saved since it seems to put them in places I didn't ask it to.  Oh well.... Jane --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: From: Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> Subject: [PD-LIFE] Battery Life of a Laptop :o) To: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 7:39 PM Hi Joan :o) I unplug my laptop every time I turn it off, during the day, and all night it is unplugged, as well as that little box that plugs into the computer and outlet. I'm a little bit confused then. So, letting the battery run down, isn't unplugging it from the little black box it comes with. The little black box unplugged from the outlet is what they mean? Then how do you know if it is run almost completely down? Isn't the little battery w/plug, at the bottom of the screen, what they are talking about. The one that measures the charge of the battery in the laptop? That's what my sister-in-law read in her book she has with hers. I, too, like Connie, work with my laptop plugged in all the time. Most of my friends do, too. They don't know what I am talking about when I asked if they let their battery run down once a month, and if they do, how do they do it. I guess I'm asking how does one do it? I know you all are going to pull your hair out explaining this to me, because I just don't get it. Okay, sooooo, if it's NOT the same as running down the battery, that gives a reading when you hover over the icon on the lower task bar, then what do they mean? I have so much to learn, with this laptop, but I love it, mind you!!!! I hate to ask Mike to explain these things to me, since he is about sick of computers by the time he gets home from work. I probably have you spinning in your chair, right now, too, huh :o( Confused Lynn, in Columbia LOL!!!! Joan wrote: > Connie- > > You should run the battery down in that the battery is RECHARGEABLE and > recharges whenever you plug in the laptop. So you are NOT wearing it out > by > letting it run down--you are giving it a longer life. It is best to unplug > the > laptop when you have it turned off also. That will help to run down the > battery > a bit. The thing with the rechargeable batteries is that they "learn" so > if > you never use them they will lose their charge but if you run them down > (just > like a phone battery) then they will take a full charge the next time you > plug > in the computer. > > The battery isn't to keep a backup when the computer is off--that is a > different battery--not the one that powers the laptop when it is > unplugged. > In a message dated 1/16/2009 1:53:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I vaguely remember the only batteries to let run down were phone > batteries.? > I never use my lap top without it being > plugged in.? The battery is to keep back up for when the machine is off > or > for short uses.? They are too expensive to run down completely.? That is > just > my take on it.? Connie > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi speaking of lactose intolerance. I have found that Cheddar Cheese is OK, So Cheddar is Better!!! Hugs, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Cheese Soup > Oh my goodness!!!! And a cheese soup lover! I don't know what I would do > if I found that out!!! That was the one thing that impressed me about the > new grocery store we found_they have one of the best cheese sections I > have > ever seen!!!! Mike was laughing at me, when I saw the cheeses!!! > Sorry to hear that! Did it just happen, or were you always like that and > never knew it? > :o) > Lyhn > > Joan wrote! > >> Lynn- >> >> Cheese soup WOULD be tasty but I think I'm going to swear off it...I have >> learned I'm lactose intolerant. :( >> >> I never knew it before but had DNA testing done and learned I lack the >> gene >> to process lactose. Imagine that! >> >> Joan >> >> >> In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:38:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> PS Joan, did we ever decided on the best cheese soup? Remember that a >> few >> years ago! Boy, would a bowl of cheese soup taste great about now! >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynn- I don't know. I never actually drink a glass of milk and I can still eat a cup of yogurt with no problem (but I'm told that yogurt doesn't contain much lactose and many intolerant people can eat yogurt). Cheese has always caused some digestive upset but I just always thought everyone had that--didn't attribute it to lactose intolerance. I must have always been intolerant since I don't have the gene that controls the processing of lactose. It's amazing to have the genome mapped -- genes don't lie and they tell you a LOT about yourself and explain things that were previously mysteries. It tells you about your ancient ancestry (deep origins) and explains your risk for various genetic diseases (the ones that are known as of now--and new ones are added as they learn about them). They also tell you carrier status for various genetic diseases and traits: such as your odds of being brown eyed/green eyed/blue eyed, etc. It's FUN and can be of benefit in health issues both in helping to explain them and also to help you possibly avoid getting them if you are high risk. (Learning that information isn't for the faint of heart though--some wouldn't want to know their genetic risk of getting MS or Parkinson's for example). Most diseases have both a genetic and environmental cause--so learning risks isn't a diagnosis but still can be very interesting. Joan In a message dated 1/16/2009 6:02:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Oh my goodness!!!! And a cheese soup lover! I don't know what I would do if I found that out!!! That was the one thing that impressed me about the new grocery store we found_they have one of the best cheese sections I have ever seen!!!! Mike was laughing at me, when I saw the cheeses!!! Sorry to hear that! Did it just happen, or were you always like that and never knew it? :o)

Oh my goodness!!!! And a cheese soup lover! I don't know what I would do if I found that out!!! That was the one thing that impressed me about the new grocery store we found_they have one of the best cheese sections I have ever seen!!!! Mike was laughing at me, when I saw the cheeses!!! Sorry to hear that! Did it just happen, or were you always like that and never knew it? :o) Lyhn Joan wrote! > Lynn- > > Cheese soup WOULD be tasty but I think I'm going to swear off it...I have > learned I'm lactose intolerant. :( > > I never knew it before but had DNA testing done and learned I lack the > gene > to process lactose. Imagine that! > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:38:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > PS Joan, did we ever decided on the best cheese soup? Remember that a > few > years ago! Boy, would a bowl of cheese soup taste great about now! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn- Cheese soup WOULD be tasty but I think I'm going to swear off it...I have learned I'm lactose intolerant. :( I never knew it before but had DNA testing done and learned I lack the gene to process lactose. Imagine that! Joan In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:38:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: PS Joan, did we ever decided on the best cheese soup? Remember that a few years ago! Boy, would a bowl of cheese soup taste great about now!

Yep, Them's the ones, Tracy!! It does sound like something that would go with the lower temps!!! Wish I would have picked some up at the store, when we were there. Guess I could make my own, but it's so easier to use the canned !!! :o) Lynn PS Going to make coffee, now. Mike is starting his work. Gotta get off. Tracy wrote: The can biscuit recipe? Those sound fun to make this weekend and have with hot cocoa. Yummy! Nice and warm for this cool weather. -tracy --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Lynn wrote: I remember that donuts recipe Tracy gave to us between 2005 and 2007! That is such a great idea, also.

Yep, that's the way most people feel, Connie. But, Mike siad the same thing Joan said, that VISTA is not going away, just having an update called Windows 7, that doesn't amount to much more than better graphics, or something like that. He wishes it would be an update to make it faster, instead. These changes drive people nuts, who work on the technical end of the computer. It's probably fine for some folks who are just users of the product, except that when it changes, it usually means that they will have to upgrade again and again_a vicious cycle. But, we are a people of constant change, for the better or for the worst :o) I just can't see changing a good product, for no reason, or not much of a reason. It IS GREAT reoccurring revenue, I guess. We have a cousin who LOVES Vista, also. So there are people who do like it, but I don't know many. For the rest, well, it's just another operating system to learn and adapt what you have to it. Just like the changing of the DVDs, where Blue Ray won the battle. UGH!!!!!!!! Oh well. Oh, I'll be doing the sending of THE MANUAL tomorrow, or Sunday. Mike decided to work tonight instead of tomorrow. Signing off for the night. Stay warm everyone in those frigid areas of the world!!!! Warm Hugs from Columbia! Gotta run! Hmmm, that would keep me warm, running :o) Lynn PS Joan, did we ever decided on the best cheese soup? Remember that a few years ago! Boy, would a bowl of cheese soup taste great about now! PPS We found a grocery store about 16 minutes away from our house, in Mt. Joy, where it doesn't stink_you can actually smell the foods, and it isn't too much more expensive than Redners was!!!! AND, it has some of the things that I could only get at Redners_so I am a happy camper now! It's a SurFine (sp?) store, which is what Mussers is_Mussers is the store taking over where our Redners was_so, I am hoping that I can take the new store moving in. If I can't, we can hop over Chiques (on 441) to Darankamps (on 230) (sp?). I really like the store! Seems to have very friendly people working there, also. Joan wrote: > Connie- > > XP will also be "gone" in the sense that new technology comes along all > the > time and is under development. VISTA isn't being "dropped" and won't be > "gone" -- it will just eventually become outdated technology--remember > Windows > 3.1? How far we've come from DOS and Windows 3.1! And we'll keep having > newer > and better technology in the future. > > Joan Connie wrote: > Sorry, Linda, again, but I just read a blurb that Vista is going to be > dropped and replaced with an update of something else.? Not sure what but > it is > gone.? I hated it but did not know at the time we could request XP.? > Figured we > then would no longer get service.? Oh, well.? Ever the planned > obsolescence > so we consume more products.? Hate being manipulated like that.? Connie

we hit about 35 below in Enosburg, 8 miles from the Canadian border, at least it was about 28 below at 8:30 A.M. so figured it was much lower at early morning. Warmed right up there to zero before noon, now it is cold again but warm enough to snow a bit.