I guess Blue birds went out with the bathwater, so to speak. I've not heard of them in years, so Girl scouts must've won out, but I am away from OH now, so I guess I'll have to ask my relatives there! Do any of you in PA hear of Bluebirds at all, nowadays? Your close enough I would think?! I figured there were more out there somewhere. Welcome Sally! Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ and Sally" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:32:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts no blue birds but was a brownie and then flew up to a girl scout. Also was in Girls Friendly Society wow am I feeling old ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts > Nope, not Blue Birds, but went all the way through to Senior Girl Scouts. > Still have my Girl Scout manuals, too, and found a really old Girl Scout > manual when they had the book sale at the public library one year. > :o) > Lynn > PS Had girlfriends who were in Blue Birds. > > Cathy wrote: > I got my blue bird pin. Anyone do blue birds similar to Girl scouts! I > must not have been in it long though, but remember how I loved the > uniform! > And especially myself getting the pin! Wow I haven't thought of that for > years! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn,   I bought a Sears Kenmore cannister last year. Love it! It has 3-5 filters on this new one. I think it filters the air going in and the air going out of the machine. It has a true hepa filter too. Plus you can use cloth or paper bags in it. Just in case you wanted to look into.   tracy --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Lynn wrote: Guess we better start looking into a new vac, really soon. We were thinking of getting that Eureka Pet Lovers Vacuum that our daughter and her boyfriend were raving about at Christmas, but I want to look into more of them, before making that purchase. I really like my Sharp we bought years ago, but it has seen its days.

Grief is a difficult thing, and everyone does it differently. Mostly, I have found, even when you think you are dealing with reasonable persons, they can get pretty stupid when it comes to dealing with money issues involving grief. What people don't get is that money doesn't make you happy. Sometimes it makes things easier, in one respect, but often it just adds other problems. If someone really thinks money will make them happy---my feeling is---go ahead, take it, it certainly is not important enough to threaten violence over. And things, while they can have monetary value and a lot of sentimental value, are just things. Things that can be replaced, or thought of in memory, but truthfully, are not worth the fighting either. I have seen it too many times and it breaks my heart each time, and usually breaks up families---all because someone is greedy, someone is trying to get a little something more, someone thinks someone owes them something. I've got an uncle who thinks he is happy after cutting people out of his life and taking off with "all the dough because it is his due". Sadly, he is more miserable than before he took off with the stuff, but he thinks he is happy. Trish On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Becky Sanning <[email protected]> wrote: > The great thing about this list is that we can laugh at each other. And > cry with each other. > I understand the need for the explosion and I understand the anger. When > my father died five years ago, I had two brothers standing in my kitchen > threatening to beat me up and to sue me over an insurance check that they > thought I should share with them even though it had been daddy's directive > that that money come to me. To this date, I have two brothers that will not > talk to me and another that only calls once a year. I do sympathize. > > Becky > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Our church gives groceries away every Friday. We provide recycled plastic bags for them to put their food in. our Wal Mart here has a bag recycling box at the entrance, and they give us a lot of recycled bags when we need them. We also keep some at home in case we run short at the church. we fold them neatly and put them in plastic boxes with drawers. Most of our grocery stores here and Wal Mart, K-Mart and Target sell the reusable bags. We have purchased many of them to use when we go shopping. I also have two bags which are about four times the size of the ones they sell in the stores now that have wheels and a pulling/carrying strap. they are real convenient. Don in AZ

I've got to LOL. We don't get the PADutch "accent" ones. We get the ones with earthquakes and other California themes. Glad they've targeted their markets! T On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Tracy <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't watch commercials, if at all possible, so am missing out on the > subject matter. Once in a while I will stop fast forward to watch the cows, > but I don't know what they are selling. I think they are "the happy cows". > > tracy > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Sue wrote: > > being from florida, cows and palm trees is a perfectly natural sight for > me....lol... > > the 2 "favorite cow" commercials that are my personal favorites are > the one with the cow and her mama ("mama, let me do it!") and the one > where her younger brother keeps messing with her ("don't vote for > alicia")~they crack me up... > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynn, Don't know about the companies outside of PacBell, which turned into SBC, which is now our local AT&T, but, when we had problems or were setting up, they walked me through things, piece by piece. Even though I used to be a techie, I'm lost on these little machines and WiFi confounds me. Good luck! Trish On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Trish, > I was wondering if you could call them for assistance in getting your > account set up. I am going to take good notes, for when we go DSL, > someday. > I helped her order her DSL, it's the getting it set up, and all the > computer > stuff that I will need help with, as we get her email account set up and > moving into her Windows Mail (Outlook Express the Windows way :o) ) > I would ask Mike to do it, but computers are the last thing he wants to > deal > with when he gets home from a full day of them, at work. > Thanks for the info. > Hugs! > Lynn > Trish wrote: > > Lynn, > > DSL should not be all that difficult. I think they worked out a lot of > the > > kinks on us here > > in California before releasing it to the rest of the country. Years ago I > > spent HOURS on the > > phone with the phone co getting it set up, fixed and corrected. It was > > about > > that same time > > when I found out that the house we were living in had 6 phone lines > coming > > into it, 2 of which > > were connected to neighbors home lines, accidentally. Were I not so > > honest, > > I suppose I could have gotten free > > long distance, but that's just not honest. > > > > The modems seem to be marked quite well these days---IN, OUT etc. and > most > > of the cables > > can only fit in one place or another. > > > > Software setup is another story, but that may be something you want to > get > > on the phone with the company > > while doing---most are pretty good about walking you thru the process. > > Don't > > ask, just follow their directions > > when they tell you to type in XYZ! ;-) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't watch commercials, if at all possible, so am missing out on the subject matter. Once in a while I will stop fast forward to watch the cows, but I don't know what they are selling. I think they are "the happy cows".   tracy   --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Sue wrote: being from florida, cows and palm trees is a perfectly natural sight for me....lol... the 2 "favorite cow" commercials that are my personal favorites are the one with the cow and her mama ("mama, let me do it!") and the one where her younger brother keeps messing with her ("don't vote for alicia")~they crack me up...

Lynn, DSL should not be all that difficult. I think they worked out a lot of the kinks on us here in California before releasing it to the rest of the country. Years ago I spent HOURS on the phone with the phone co getting it set up, fixed and corrected. It was about that same time when I found out that the house we were living in had 6 phone lines coming into it, 2 of which were connected to neighbors home lines, accidentally. Were I not so honest, I suppose I could have gotten free long distance, but that's just not honest. The modems seem to be marked quite well these days---IN, OUT etc. and most of the cables can only fit in one place or another. Software setup is another story, but that may be something you want to get on the phone with the company while doing---most are pretty good about walking you thru the process. Don't ask, just follow their directions when they tell you to type in XYZ! ;-) Trish On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Cathy, > Yes, they are really liking them. They said that they got rid of their > long > distance carrier, since they got them. Said it's cheaper for them. It > won't be cheaper for us, to use the TracPhone, because we each make an hour > long distance call each week_Mike to his parents, and me to my "Aunt" > Becky. > So, we would have to buy 200 minutes every week and a half. > My sister-in-law just got her DSL, and will be online in a few days. I > will > have to figure out how to hook it up for her. I've never done this before, > so I might be asking for some help, from you laptop users, once the modem > and spliter get here. > I read the manual, but sometimes I don't think they are speaking in > English. > I should have gotten a Vista Dummie book_hmm, come to think of it, I > believe > Mike did get me one. Guess I better go to my office and look in the corner > to see exactly what he got for me. I usually read my Windows Vista book. > Well, better get back to my work. > Keeping an eye on you all :o) LOL!!! > Hugs from warming up in Columbia!???? Maybe I'm typing too fast, and > causing a heat wave in the borough :o) > :o) > Lynn > > Cathy wrote: > > By the way Lynn, I'm glad to hear that your relative or friend, > > likes TracPhone, I know I do. I only used mine if we're going to be out > & > > about, but do enjoy visiting with my friends long distance that way! But > > also use a regular phone too! But I like the fact of the double minutes! > > Cathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynn, have you tried chiropractic care and/or acupuncture? A friend was nearly as badly reactive as you are and finally did a last ditch effort to find *something* to help her breathing, short of living in a bubble. The acupuncture really has helped her function. I know chiropractic care has helped my asthma significantly, to the point that the mold in our sanctuary really doesn't bother me much anymore, except when I am sick or have other things that compromise my lungs. Before I went to the chiro, before I saw my friend's change from her acupuncture, I was the biggest skeptic about the seemingly "hocus pocus" of the two medicines. However, I'm walking today--not in a wheelchair, with multiple surgeries that traditional medicine said was my only option, all because of regular chiropractic care. And to the bags---Trader Joe's has cloth bags, that except for the printing, I believe are all cloth and should not have any treatment to them that should bother you---but I'm not up on all the allergens. Trish On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Trish, and All who don't know, > I will try to explain my Chemical Sensitive Severe Asthma in a very short > way. > My problem goes way beyond finding the bags, and remembering to use > them_because if I found any I COULD use, you better believe I would > remember > to use them, since bags are the number one thing on my mind when we go > shopping. Weird, huh :o) Most folks think of what they need to buy. No, > I > think of what the store is going to smell like, what people will have on, > and what the products or bags smell like. > I can't go shopping more than once or twice a month because of this CSSA, > and the instant swelling I go through, also. See, I swell up so much that > I > look like I gain about 40 to 60 lbs within minutes of exposure to certain > things in the air. Scented smells from people, the air around me, etc. > soak > in through my skin and stay there. Over-exposure could cause death. So, I > must give my body a time to recuperate from each lengthy exposure, or I > could go into the mini-anaphylactic shocks I was experiencing, according to > my doctor, more than 2 times a week, if not every day (before I knew what I > had) for over 20 years, the last 17 being very bad. I never knew what they > were that I was having, or I would have tried to stay away from the stuff > as > much as possible way before I began to stay away in 2006. I found all of > this out when I had to get an excuse to get me out of Federal Jury Duty in > 2007. > This is why I have to be very careful what I buy in all meanings of the > word > buy :o) > I now know what bags everyone is talking about. There are all different > kinds. I have seen them hanging around Wal-mart at times_which is one of > the only stores I CAN go into, and even that store gets to me. I DID sniff > one of the bags out a while ago, but couldn't buy it, because it had the > scent of whatever they put into products that triggers my asthma. > Now, you may think I'm extreme on this, but when you almost die from one > day > of being exposed just 3 times, in different ways, to the fumes of the day, > you start to be very cautious as to where you go, and what you buy. > November of 2006 was that day for me, when I walked into the nursing home, > where I held story time for the residents every Saturday morning. They > forgot to call me to let me know they had just cleaned the carpets the > night > before. I walked right into the stuff in the air. I cancelled story time, > but had to tell my residents that I was okay before leaving, or they would > have worried about me. Lots of them can't hear very well, and wouldn't > have > heard the announcement that I had cancelled. Some would have taken > themselves up to the solarium and sat there waiting for me to come in. So, > I HAD to go around to let them know. Then I went to my favorite Mennonite > store, and all of a sudden I was surrounded by people who smelled like they > just walked out of the dryer. I went home, laid down for the afternoon, to > let my body calm down from the shock of it all. Felt better that evening, > and asked my husband if he wanted to exchange the sticks we bought for each > other, and shoot a few games of pool before dinner. When we unwrapped the > cues, there was a powder that they use for shrink wrapping that spewed out > into the air, and, not knowing it, caused a really bad thing to start in my > lungs, we proceeded to shoot a couple games. By the time I got down to the > last three balls I had to shoot before winning (I won both games :o) ), my > breathing got worse, and worse. I grabbed my inhaler, went into the > bathroom, while Mike covered the table, and took a dose of my inhaler. I > looked in the mirror, and my face was already a very weird purple blue with > large pink dots on it. I was all swollen up. I had actually seen > different scenes of my life passing by in fast motion, and I asked God to > let everyone I loved (including this list) know that I was okay, and > thought > of them on my way HOME. I didn't wait the entire time I was told to wait > between doses, I just remember taking one more inhale, and then feeling the > life flow back into me. The third inhale on the wrong inhaler brought me > back. Mike wouldn't have found me in time, because I had gotten that way > so > many times, that it was just another attack for me. For many years, Mike > had seen me grab my inhaler, and go into another room to take it. I go > into > another room, because obviously it is dangerous in the room I am in at the > moment. I didn't have my emergency inhaler_I had a Primatene Mist > inhaler_BAD GIRL_I should have had my emergency inhaler refilled. Now I > keep my emergency inhaler with me all the time_and an EpiPen, but they > expire so quickly that I don't get the EpiPen refilled unless I KNOW I am > going to be in a really bad situation for a long time, like if I would have > to go somewhere and stay there, besides home. I want to wait, to get a new > prescription from the doctor, until this sick season is over, so I don't > carry any germs home to Mike and the rest of the family_plus winter is bad > for me to be sitting in a waiting room full of folks who use the products > that set me off. > Anyway, that's why I don't go shopping much, can't even step out of the > house a lot of times, to potty Lexus, to do my gardening, or sit out to > enjoy my gardens, because of the laundry being done at the apartments next > door, wash being done at the house on the other side of us, or across the > street, if the wind is blowing our way_OR, just people walking by out > front, > who marinate in the aromatic fumes of the day, which are so popular with > most people around here. > It's a long story to just explain WHY I have to be so careful, but I feel I > have to educate folks on this, because it can happen to anyone, and there > are so many of us out there, just trying to stay away from the stuff. They > are JUST beGINning to research and find some of the dangerous things in our > everyday products_which I am very thankful for_every little step may mean a > longer life for many of us with this_and all of those who might get it > someday. So, the bags, well, I might have to use paper, sorry folks, > unless > I can find material bags that don't smell. I could make my own, but would > need to find light-weight material that didn't smell from being in the > stores, or from being treated with fireproof or stain resistant chemicals. > How do I buy new clothes? VERY seldom, and when I do, I have to wash them > about 15 to 20 times before wearing them, and give a lot away, until I find > something that I can finally add to my wardrobe. I gave up on making my > own, because finding new material that doesn't smell is VERY hard. > It's really complicated, Trish, hope this clears a few things up on my part > with the bags :o) But, I will see what Mike says about getting some of > those bags that I found at that site that Tracy, and I believe Mary sent to > me. And then hope I don't have to just give them away. > We've gone through thousands of dollars to find products we can use. I > keep > a list, because I have found in this wonderful Internet world we live in > today, that there ARE many, many folks like me out there, and if I can save > someone money on trying products out, I will by sending them my list. I > should just include that list in THE MANUAL someday. The only thing is, > the > list changes, as manufacturers "NEW and IMPROVE" products. They take > something that is perfectly good, and make it that I have to go searching > for another product. Can't tell you how many times this has happened over > the years. > Anyway, that's a short tidbit about my everyday life :o) > As I said before, I can't even eat other people's cooking, because of the > dish soap they use and don't get off their dishes, or the cleaning products > they use, that soak into their food products in their cabinets. > Hugs from Columbia!!! > Sorry for the long, long post_but I figured if someone doesn't want to read > it, they can just delete it. > :o) > Lynn > > Trish wrote: > > Cathy, > > > > I think in this economy, the City is realizing it might just stop a lot > of > > people from shopping, which would cut the tax base even further. I liken > > to > > it not having a shopping cart available at the market---nothing to put > the > > groceries in, it will limit how much I can carry, limit how much I buy > and > > limit how often I'll return to the store. > > > > We recycle the bags we get to a maximum, even putting a less than stellar > > bag inside another one in order to make it last longer, then putting in > > our > > recycling bin on trash day when it is no longer useful. > > > > A lot of places here stopped offering paper grocery bags with handles on > > them in order to push people to use plastic ones (or the cloth ones). > > Apparently, a number of folks have taken to asking for them to put a > > plastic > > one outside the paper one, in order to allow it to be carried, thereby, > > defeating the purpose of "saving a tree". I have complained loud and > proud > > about the lack of paper bags with handles. I noticed today at the local > > market that they now have handled paper bags again. Yippie! > > > > Our local Trader Joe's has been offering all sorts of fun reuseable bags, > > encouraging folks to use them not only for shopping but other fun things. > > They run about 99c for basic cloth or oil-cloth type up to about $6 for a > > zippered insulated bag that keeps things warm or cold (not both at the > > same > > time). My problem is that I often forget to bring the bags in with me, > > but, > > I'm learning to remember! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Trish, and All who don't know, I will try to explain my Chemical Sensitive Severe Asthma in a very short way. My problem goes way beyond finding the bags, and remembering to use them_because if I found any I COULD use, you better believe I would remember to use them, since bags are the number one thing on my mind when we go shopping. Weird, huh :o) Most folks think of what they need to buy. No, I think of what the store is going to smell like, what people will have on, and what the products or bags smell like. I can't go shopping more than once or twice a month because of this CSSA, and the instant swelling I go through, also. See, I swell up so much that I look like I gain about 40 to 60 lbs within minutes of exposure to certain things in the air. Scented smells from people, the air around me, etc. soak in through my skin and stay there. Over-exposure could cause death. So, I must give my body a time to recuperate from each lengthy exposure, or I could go into the mini-anaphylactic shocks I was experiencing, according to my doctor, more than 2 times a week, if not every day (before I knew what I had) for over 20 years, the last 17 being very bad. I never knew what they were that I was having, or I would have tried to stay away from the stuff as much as possible way before I began to stay away in 2006. I found all of this out when I had to get an excuse to get me out of Federal Jury Duty in 2007. This is why I have to be very careful what I buy in all meanings of the word buy :o) I now know what bags everyone is talking about. There are all different kinds. I have seen them hanging around Wal-mart at times_which is one of the only stores I CAN go into, and even that store gets to me. I DID sniff one of the bags out a while ago, but couldn't buy it, because it had the scent of whatever they put into products that triggers my asthma. Now, you may think I'm extreme on this, but when you almost die from one day of being exposed just 3 times, in different ways, to the fumes of the day, you start to be very cautious as to where you go, and what you buy. November of 2006 was that day for me, when I walked into the nursing home, where I held story time for the residents every Saturday morning. They forgot to call me to let me know they had just cleaned the carpets the night before. I walked right into the stuff in the air. I cancelled story time, but had to tell my residents that I was okay before leaving, or they would have worried about me. Lots of them can't hear very well, and wouldn't have heard the announcement that I had cancelled. Some would have taken themselves up to the solarium and sat there waiting for me to come in. So, I HAD to go around to let them know. Then I went to my favorite Mennonite store, and all of a sudden I was surrounded by people who smelled like they just walked out of the dryer. I went home, laid down for the afternoon, to let my body calm down from the shock of it all. Felt better that evening, and asked my husband if he wanted to exchange the sticks we bought for each other, and shoot a few games of pool before dinner. When we unwrapped the cues, there was a powder that they use for shrink wrapping that spewed out into the air, and, not knowing it, caused a really bad thing to start in my lungs, we proceeded to shoot a couple games. By the time I got down to the last three balls I had to shoot before winning (I won both games :o) ), my breathing got worse, and worse. I grabbed my inhaler, went into the bathroom, while Mike covered the table, and took a dose of my inhaler. I looked in the mirror, and my face was already a very weird purple blue with large pink dots on it. I was all swollen up. I had actually seen different scenes of my life passing by in fast motion, and I asked God to let everyone I loved (including this list) know that I was okay, and thought of them on my way HOME. I didn't wait the entire time I was told to wait between doses, I just remember taking one more inhale, and then feeling the life flow back into me. The third inhale on the wrong inhaler brought me back. Mike wouldn't have found me in time, because I had gotten that way so many times, that it was just another attack for me. For many years, Mike had seen me grab my inhaler, and go into another room to take it. I go into another room, because obviously it is dangerous in the room I am in at the moment. I didn't have my emergency inhaler_I had a Primatene Mist inhaler_BAD GIRL_I should have had my emergency inhaler refilled. Now I keep my emergency inhaler with me all the time_and an EpiPen, but they expire so quickly that I don't get the EpiPen refilled unless I KNOW I am going to be in a really bad situation for a long time, like if I would have to go somewhere and stay there, besides home. I want to wait, to get a new prescription from the doctor, until this sick season is over, so I don't carry any germs home to Mike and the rest of the family_plus winter is bad for me to be sitting in a waiting room full of folks who use the products that set me off. Anyway, that's why I don't go shopping much, can't even step out of the house a lot of times, to potty Lexus, to do my gardening, or sit out to enjoy my gardens, because of the laundry being done at the apartments next door, wash being done at the house on the other side of us, or across the street, if the wind is blowing our way_OR, just people walking by out front, who marinate in the aromatic fumes of the day, which are so popular with most people around here. It's a long story to just explain WHY I have to be so careful, but I feel I have to educate folks on this, because it can happen to anyone, and there are so many of us out there, just trying to stay away from the stuff. They are JUST beGINning to research and find some of the dangerous things in our everyday products_which I am very thankful for_every little step may mean a longer life for many of us with this_and all of those who might get it someday. So, the bags, well, I might have to use paper, sorry folks, unless I can find material bags that don't smell. I could make my own, but would need to find light-weight material that didn't smell from being in the stores, or from being treated with fireproof or stain resistant chemicals. How do I buy new clothes? VERY seldom, and when I do, I have to wash them about 15 to 20 times before wearing them, and give a lot away, until I find something that I can finally add to my wardrobe. I gave up on making my own, because finding new material that doesn't smell is VERY hard. It's really complicated, Trish, hope this clears a few things up on my part with the bags :o) But, I will see what Mike says about getting some of those bags that I found at that site that Tracy, and I believe Mary sent to me. And then hope I don't have to just give them away. We've gone through thousands of dollars to find products we can use. I keep a list, because I have found in this wonderful Internet world we live in today, that there ARE many, many folks like me out there, and if I can save someone money on trying products out, I will by sending them my list. I should just include that list in THE MANUAL someday. The only thing is, the list changes, as manufacturers "NEW and IMPROVE" products. They take something that is perfectly good, and make it that I have to go searching for another product. Can't tell you how many times this has happened over the years. Anyway, that's a short tidbit about my everyday life :o) As I said before, I can't even eat other people's cooking, because of the dish soap they use and don't get off their dishes, or the cleaning products they use, that soak into their food products in their cabinets. Hugs from Columbia!!! Sorry for the long, long post_but I figured if someone doesn't want to read it, they can just delete it. :o) Lynn Trish wrote: > Cathy, > > I think in this economy, the City is realizing it might just stop a lot of > people from shopping, which would cut the tax base even further. I liken > to > it not having a shopping cart available at the market---nothing to put the > groceries in, it will limit how much I can carry, limit how much I buy and > limit how often I'll return to the store. > > We recycle the bags we get to a maximum, even putting a less than stellar > bag inside another one in order to make it last longer, then putting in > our > recycling bin on trash day when it is no longer useful. > > A lot of places here stopped offering paper grocery bags with handles on > them in order to push people to use plastic ones (or the cloth ones). > Apparently, a number of folks have taken to asking for them to put a > plastic > one outside the paper one, in order to allow it to be carried, thereby, > defeating the purpose of "saving a tree". I have complained loud and proud > about the lack of paper bags with handles. I noticed today at the local > market that they now have handled paper bags again. Yippie! > > Our local Trader Joe's has been offering all sorts of fun reuseable bags, > encouraging folks to use them not only for shopping but other fun things. > They run about 99c for basic cloth or oil-cloth type up to about $6 for a > zippered insulated bag that keeps things warm or cold (not both at the > same > time). My problem is that I often forget to bring the bags in with me, > but, > I'm learning to remember!

(Big smile) We are under a winter weather warning.  They say 10 inches of snow by noon tomorrow.  I hope so.  I'd like to get caught up on the homework and it's funny to watch my son Aaron (who doesn't believe shoes should be tied) tromp around the backyard with the grandkids and the dogs.  Goober looks like a small pony galloping across the back yard.  --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Cathy And donald w raber <[email protected]> wrote: From: Cathy And donald w raber <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Cows, and Palm Trees To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 4:29 PM Well, yes, Becky it takes alot to get used to the hotter weather for sure, when your used to colder weather, up north for sure. Usually warm around X-mas, like 70's! yuck or 60's anyways, then we get colder when you all do with the frost like this year! I love the changes that occur, but I know yesterday some lady was saying she was wanting spring already! Man we ain't had winter yet! But that's FL, we're supposed to be in the upper 70's maybe 80, & I just talked to my cousin, in OH & you all aare having a winter advisory! Yikes, & already had some snow! Talk about jealousy! Sure wish I could trade with you all! Though gotta admit I took a hike with my husband this morning & it was a nice thing, & enjoyed the cool 60! Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:16:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Cows, and Palm Trees I'm in. Heart candies.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Russ and Sally <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 2:56 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Cows, and Palm Trees Yes I think it does?????? but I also love those Cows that are in the snow and going to go to California. Oh God here come the giggles again. Well now don't you wish we were all at Lynns kitchen table with Rick and the virtual Chirstmas no wait let make them Valentine Cookies that are fresh!!!!! Hugs, Sally I know Becky is saying yes and Lynn is thnking what coffee can I make!!! Me I will bring and appetizer I just love them!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Cows, and Palm Trees > LOL!!!! You're watching too many of those Laughing Cow commercials :o) > or > are they the Turkey hill cows? I love Laughing Cow cheese_the light ones > (low fat)_they are delicious! Doesn't one of their commercials have one > of > the cows walking away, speaking with a PA Dutch accent? Did they get that > idea from you, Sally :o) > Hugs! > Lynn > Sally wrote: >> Hi Becky; One of the funniest things that I saw in Florida was a heard >> of >> cows under some palm trees. I don't know why that struck me as so funny >> maybe because it was Christmas time and we had just left lots of ice and >> snow as we drove to Florida to spend Christmas with friends that had just >> moved down there and were very lonely. Seeing those cow just made me >> laugh. >> Now as I recall that image of palm trees and cow I see them all talking >> in >> different languages, I bet there are some speaking Pa Dutch along with >> French. Lord I am laughing again!!!!!Have a giggly day. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the mes sage ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linnea-how I envy you.  My mom used to start an afghan(sp) at the house before we left on vacation and she would have it completely finished by the time we got to Missouri.  She tried to teach me once.  I was all tangled up in the yarn and it came out looking like something you'd put a um baby bottle in.  Give me a sewing machine any day!!!

Have you seen the commercials asking you to vote on your favorite cow?  I like Kristen...  

The great thing about this list is that we can laugh at each other.  And cry with each other. I understand the need for the explosion and I understand the anger.  When my father died five years ago, I had two brothers standing in my kitchen threatening to beat me up and to sue me over an insurance check that they thought I should share with them even though it had been daddy's directive that that money come to me.  To this date, I have two brothers that will not talk to me and another that only calls once a year.  I do sympathize.   Becky

When my mother went in to the nursing home, I got her bag bag... it was made from a kitchen towel with elastic at the bottom and a hanger at the open top. It as purposely made to hold plastic bags. I used that thing until it was worn out. I was even using a clothes pin to keep the bottom shut because the elastic has worn out. Well.... the clothes pin would slip off and I'd end up picking up plastic bags that had fallen out all over the floor. I found a stainless steel bag box to hang on the wall, so I purchased it. I didn't really pay attention to it, but one day I looked at it and saw the 'big picture'. There were plastic bags sticking out of this box in all directions; and it looked a hundred transparent octopuses were trying to make an escape! So, I pulled every single last bag out of the box and spent 45 minutes neatly folding each and every one. My husband noticed it right away when he got home that night. There was a bag on the table from grocery shopping that day, so I demonstrated how to fold the bag so it would fit in the box. I think he's afraid of the grief he'd get if he didn't stow the bags properly, so the box has stayed nice and neat. Our local Giant store (the very first one ever built by the Akel brothers, I might add) recycles all plastic bags, not just their own. They have a box at the entrance for you to drop them in. We reused all of ours. We have a dog, so we use quite a few of them that way, not to mention when we take her with us any where. I also use them to line my bedroom and bathroom trash cans because it makes it easy to just swoop the bag out to the big garbage can in the kitchen. I keep several extras folded up in the bottom of each can so I always have a replacement. We also use them for recycling: one bag for plastic and glass; another one for paper. When full, they are easily taken down to the recycling bin in the garage. Oh, yes.... I also use them to hang the large bags of snacks up so they take up no shelf space. My cousin's sewing club recycled plastic bags into tote bags one year. Those things were mighty strong, let me tell you! She said the hardest part was cutting the plastic bags into strips and tying them together in order to crochet with them. As with everything else they do, they donated all the bags to charitable causes. One handy tool I have to use when bringing groceries into the house in plastic bags are plastic bag handles. It is a handle designed to slip into the handles of plastic bags so you can actually carry several bags in one hand without hurting your fingers. I love mine and use them all the time. As soon as I am done with them, I put them next to/on top of my purse so I will remember to put them back in the car. It took a few lessons in remembering to put them back in the car, but it finally worked. I also have a zippered frozen foods bag that I use in the summer. They are wonderful. I do believe that progress is a necessity to keep us moving forward; but it is a double-edged sword. The more progress we make, the more things we are able to accomplish in a short period of time, but the less time we have to spend on quality things like our children and our spouses. Progress is saving thousands of trees every year - which BTW is a renewable source - by creating Styrofoam or plastic everything. But now we are paying thousands of dollars to recycle them in land fills because they are not bio-degradable, and burning Styrofoam and plastic sends toxic fumes into the air. Yes, we are making bio-degradable packing 'peanuts' out of cornstarch, but not everyone is on that bandwagon because of cost. Take a look at any office supply catalog. You will notice that a box of pencils might cost $7.00, but that a box of pencils made with 10% recycled materials is $7.50. Recycling is a wonderful thing; but it is labor-intensive, and we have to pay for it. There are still some things I believe would be best done 'the old way' - like taking tote bags made out of woven cotton, flax, or grass cloth with us to the stores. I can't help but wonder how many plastic bags one good-sized tote bag would replace..... hundreds? thousands? Hugs, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! Cathy, I think in this economy, the City is realizing it might just stop a lot of people from shopping, which would cut the tax base even further. I liken to it not having a shopping cart available at the market---nothing to put the groceries in, it will limit how much I can carry, limit how much I buy and limit how often I'll return to the store. We recycle the bags we get to a maximum, even putting a less than stellar bag inside another one in order to make it last longer, then putting in our recycling bin on trash day when it is no longer useful. A lot of places here stopped offering paper grocery bags with handles on them in order to push people to use plastic ones (or the cloth ones). Apparently, a number of folks have taken to asking for them to put a plastic one outside the paper one, in order to allow it to be carried, thereby, defeating the purpose of "saving a tree". I have complained loud and proud about the lack of paper bags with handles. I noticed today at the local market that they now have handled paper bags again. Yippie! Our local Trader Joe's has been offering all sorts of fun reuseable bags, encouraging folks to use them not only for shopping but other fun things. They run about 99c for basic cloth or oil-cloth type up to about $6 for a zippered insulated bag that keeps things warm or cold (not both at the same time). My problem is that I often forget to bring the bags in with me, but, I'm learning to remember! Trish On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Cathy And donald w raber < [email protected]> wrote: > Trish, > > Well, I hope they don't adopt that rule of charging for the bags. I > get allot of groceries, because I have 4 people in my family, 5 before this. > I would think that was outragious for that. I already paid for the > groceries! But agree that is great to reuse bags too! we have one grocery > store here near-by us, that does that, but don't shop there, but had a > friend shop there & she'd take a bag or two to shop. That'd be bad fro me, > because I'd have to take about 10 bags of my own at least! I mean recycling > them is enough isnt' it? I think so at least! > Its all very interesting hearing what other places, states do with > everyday things though! Ya never know what will catch on! I mean to a > certain extent, i like paper bags because they are allot easier to carry & > would carry more, & won't break & are reusable too! We have too much of a > throw away society nowadays! > By the way Lynn, I'm glad to hear that your relative or friend, likes > TracPhone, I know I do. I only used mine if we're going to be out & about, > but do enjoy visiting with my friends long distance that way! But also use a > regular phone too! But I like the fact of the double minutes! Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trish" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! > > I'm sitting here half wondering how far out some of you live from > town...then realize, I'm in Nor Cal, where we're on the cutting edge of a > lot of things. Technology is a big one. The other is green living. Ergo, we > have had reusable shopping bags for years. Nearly every little shop offers > a > reusable bag of some sort, most offer a discount, rebate, or offer of a > drawing for a give-away if you use your own bags. The City of San Francisco > has been threatening to have stores CHARGE 25c for EACH bag to put your > purchases into. I would really dislike seeing the bill for a big shopping > trip to the market! One day I came home with 20 bags---it would be $5, just > to take home my groceries? Makes me want to not shop so much, at least in > SF. Good news is I'm not there. > > We have been reusing the plastic or paper bags from stores for as long as I > can recall. I used to watch my Grand-daddy fold up the bags after a > shopping > trip and store them in the closet. It amazed me, until I realized about > non-renewable, or less-renewable resources. > > The one thing I can say is---I have never had a reusable bag break, tear, > rip or split on me and they have hundreds of other uses---holding choir > books.... > > Trish > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: > > > WOW! That's a GREAT site, Mary! > > Thanks! > > Hugs! > > Lynn > > PS Have to get off for the night. Have wash to get finished yet. Have > a > > GREAT night everyone, and a good day tomorrow_don't know how much I will > be > > able to be on this week. > > Mary wrote: > > > Lynn, > > > Check out this site: > > > http://www.papermart.com/Index/index_retail_bag_reusable.htm > > > There are many more on line if you just type in 'cloth shopping bags' > or > > > 'reusable shopping bags'. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Boy this brought back some memories.  I have all my pins including the TOFS pin that Tante Marlene made me do.  My mom was a leader while I was in Brownies and Juniors.  She inherited the troops whose leaders had husbands who were killed in VietNam.  It was ironic because that's where my dad was.  During Cadettes my youngest brother was born so she backed out and I don't remember Seniors because of a seemingly never ending fight with calculus.   I just get better with age.   Becky

I LOVE baskets. I have some very old ones that my m. grandmother had. They are prettily patterned. I remember making a basket in school, too. Just a little one. Now that I think about it, I have seen totes made from woven grass cloth. That might be an idea for Lynn to use if she could put up with the 'hay' smell they give off until they have been around a while. I have heard of the Blue Birds, but was only in Brownies one year. We lived so far out in the country that it was very inconvenient for my mother to take me, then come back and get me. I didn't mind not going though. I would rather be home on the farm where I could traipse through the woods. Hugs, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cathy And donald w raber Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! Oh my gosh. I had no idea, Mary & so cool if you think of it! Baskets used to be used allot more than nowadays. Cripes basket weaving is a lost art in itself. I did it when I was a kid even, I remember, barely! Maybe in church? Maybe blue birds? I got my blue bird pin. Anyone do blue birds similar to Girl scouts! I must not have been in it long though, but remember how I loved the uniform! And especially myself getting the pin! Wow I haven't thought of that for years! Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Sayman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:42:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! Lynn, Check out this site: http://www.papermart.com/Index/index_retail_bag_reusable.htm There are many more on line if you just type in 'cloth shopping bags' or 'reusable shopping bags'. Hugs, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Vondran Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! I'll have to look for them in the stores where I can shop. Who knows, maybe that is the way to go, and since Connie found them in a magazine, and you found them in a store, they have to be out there to be found by me, too :o) Just so I can wash them every time we use them. I could ALways make my own bags, but I'm sure they wouldn't want all sorts of people coming into the stores with bags. Hugs! Lynn Joan wrote: > Our ShopRite supermarket actually gave the green bags away if you > purchased > certain products as part of a special offer a couple times. Otherwise, > they > charge .99 cents for a reusable cloth shopping bag and then give you .5 > cents > off your bill each time you use one. I have 4 bags that generally hold all > my > groceries and get .20 cents off my bill each time I shop and bring the > bags. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, dear... you are also penciled in.... Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] trip I hope I am penciled in also. Connie -----Original Message----- From: Mary Sayman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] trip Yep, you're already penciled in on my itinerary....... I'll let you know if you get inked in... LOL Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Vondran Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] trip Remember, Mary, if you are anywhere near us, stop in, if you have a moment. Even a drive-by hello, if that's all you can do. Hugs! Lynn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

no blue birds but was a brownie and then flew up to a girl scout. Also was in Girls Friendly Society wow am I feeling old ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Vondran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts > Nope, not Blue Birds, but went all the way through to Senior Girl Scouts. > Still have my Girl Scout manuals, too, and found a really old Girl Scout > manual when they had the book sale at the public library one year. > :o) > Lynn > PS Had girlfriends who were in Blue Birds. > > Cathy wrote: > I got my blue bird pin. Anyone do blue birds similar to Girl scouts! I > must not have been in it long though, but remember how I loved the > uniform! > And especially myself getting the pin! Wow I haven't thought of that for > years! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Trish, Well, I hope they don't adopt that rule of charging for the bags. I get allot of groceries, because I have 4 people in my family, 5 before this. I would think that was outragious for that. I already paid for the groceries! But agree that is great to reuse bags too! we have one grocery store here near-by us, that does that, but don't shop there, but had a friend shop there & she'd take a bag or two to shop. That'd be bad fro me, because I'd have to take about 10 bags of my own at least! I mean recycling them is enough isnt' it? I think so at least! Its all very interesting hearing what other places, states do with everyday things though! Ya never know what will catch on! I mean to a certain extent, i like paper bags because they are allot easier to carry & would carry more, & won't break & are reusable too! We have too much of a throw away society nowadays! By the way Lynn, I'm glad to hear that your relative or friend, likes TracPhone, I know I do. I only used mine if we're going to be out & about, but do enjoy visiting with my friends long distance that way! But also use a regular phone too! But I like the fact of the double minutes! Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! I'm sitting here half wondering how far out some of you live from town...then realize, I'm in Nor Cal, where we're on the cutting edge of a lot of things. Technology is a big one. The other is green living. Ergo, we have had reusable shopping bags for years. Nearly every little shop offers a reusable bag of some sort, most offer a discount, rebate, or offer of a drawing for a give-away if you use your own bags. The City of San Francisco has been threatening to have stores CHARGE 25c for EACH bag to put your purchases into. I would really dislike seeing the bill for a big shopping trip to the market! One day I came home with 20 bags---it would be $5, just to take home my groceries? Makes me want to not shop so much, at least in SF. Good news is I'm not there. We have been reusing the plastic or paper bags from stores for as long as I can recall. I used to watch my Grand-daddy fold up the bags after a shopping trip and store them in the closet. It amazed me, until I realized about non-renewable, or less-renewable resources. The one thing I can say is---I have never had a reusable bag break, tear, rip or split on me and they have hundreds of other uses---holding choir books.... Trish On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> wrote: > WOW! That's a GREAT site, Mary! > Thanks! > Hugs! > Lynn > PS Have to get off for the night. Have wash to get finished yet. Have a > GREAT night everyone, and a good day tomorrow_don't know how much I will be > able to be on this week. > Mary wrote: > > Lynn, > > Check out this site: > > http://www.papermart.com/Index/index_retail_bag_reusable.htm > > There are many more on line if you just type in 'cloth shopping bags' or > > 'reusable shopping bags'. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message