All this talk about knitting and crocheting---goodness, does it ever hit home with me!! I made a queen sized crocheted bedspread (out of doily type thread) back in 1983 when I had gastric bypass surgery. It is white, with alternating baskets of flowers---and is done all in ONE piece!! The pattern called for it to be done in strips and then sewn together---but I decided I wanted it all in one piece. So I sat down and figured it out and just did it on my own. Then I went for a lot of years without doing any more crocheting. This past year I have gone on a "bender" and have been crocheting like mad!! I made a queen sized bedspread (again with doily thread) for my daughter---got it done in about 3 months of steady crocheting every night!! And I cannot even tell you how many other pieces I have made this last year!! I LOVE to do filet crochet, and that's all I do. If I tried to make a round doily it would turn into a ball I am afraid---I crochet pretty tight, so round things tend to curl up for me. Guess that's why I don't do them any more! I promised my dau-in-law that I would make her a KING sized bedspread out of doily thread, IF she would get me the measurements for their bed. So far she hasn't done it---kind of slow I guess. Anyway, she is going to have to pay for the thread--it is going to take a LOT of thread for that big of a spread. I am getting cheap in my old age I guess---sigghhhh!! Just thought I would add my 2 cents here about the crocheting thing. I truly enjoy the homey conversations we all have in this group---feels good to know we can talk about things that we like to do and things we like to EAT!! My favorite thing!! My favorite foods are dark chocolate and popcorn!! Ha! Better quit before this becomes a book!! Take care all of you out there---and keep crocheting!! Janice in Iowa

Hi Cathy: I am not new but I do lurk a lot hoping someone will mention my ancestors but I like no LOVE all the stories so much. It is like comfort food for me. My ancestors came from Berks Co. in the 1700's and it is a bygone moment in time for me to go back and try to imagine what their lives were like. Plus I love the people on this list, they are all so caring and loveable. Thank you for the welcome and Hugs to all, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy And donald w raber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts > > I guess Blue birds went out with the bathwater, so to speak. I've not > heard of them in years, so Girl scouts must've won out, but I am away from > OH now, so I guess I'll have to ask my relatives there! Do any of you in > PA hear of Bluebirds at all, nowadays? Your close enough I would think?! > I figured there were more out there somewhere. Welcome Sally! Cathy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ and Sally" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:32:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts > > no blue birds but was a brownie and then flew up to a girl scout. Also > was > in Girls Friendly Society wow am I feeling old > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Vondran" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:24 PM > Subject: [PD-LIFE] Blue Birds/Girl Scouts > > >> Nope, not Blue Birds, but went all the way through to Senior Girl Scouts. >> Still have my Girl Scout manuals, too, and found a really old Girl Scout >> manual when they had the book sale at the public library one year. >> :o) >> Lynn >> PS Had girlfriends who were in Blue Birds. >> >> Cathy wrote: >> I got my blue bird pin. Anyone do blue birds similar to Girl scouts! I >> must not have been in it long though, but remember how I loved the >> uniform! >> And especially myself getting the pin! Wow I haven't thought of that for >> years! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PADUTCH-LIFE-re[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not here to argue either. As I noted previously, asthma is partly genetic--meaning we can be born with a genetic predisposition to it, but that doesn't mean everyone with a predisposition to it will eventually "get" asthma. It requires triggers from allergies, the environment, and viral infections. So it doesn't mean that our genes have changed--it means that other factors have been brought into the equation over time during our lives. It sounds as if your pulmonologist has noticed an improvement in the functioning of your immune system--and that alone would have resulted in an improvement in your asthma and general health. I'm still not sure I buy that chiropractic can have an effect on the immune system though (just my opinion). Joan In a message dated 1/27/2009 6:41:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: As to things not being alleviated except psychologically---most of us did not start out with asthma, and obviously, many have gotten worse as we age---does that mean our genes have "gotten worse" over the years?

being from florida, cows and palm trees is a perfectly natural sight for me....lol... the 2 "favorite cow" commercials that are my personal favorites are the one with the cow and her mama ("mama, let me do it!") and the one where her younger brother keeps messing with her ("don't vote for alicia")~they crack me up... sue (in clear, mild, we-don't-have-water-because-the-well-pump-is-broke NE Florida) -- i believe i'm experiencing amnesia and deja vu at the same time~i think i've forgotten this before... -------------- Original message -------------- From: Becky Sanning <[email protected]> > Have you seen the commercials asking you to vote on your favorite cow? I like > Kristen... >

I knew it would settle down at some point.? Unfortunately, it did not happen in my husbands family.? I think all families have some issues eventually.??? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Tracy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] the Manual/Becky/family grief Hi List, ? ?Things have quieted down here. I guess it was Saturday night when Bryan spoke with?his sister in OH, and the MI family called her, that things got really nasty.?Bryan now realizes that his brother was making trouble and lying to him. Lord only knows what was said about me (nothing polite I'm sure!) but I don't care. I only care about my hubby and his feelings. Things were rough for me as I could see the lies but didn't want to "force" Bryan to see it. It was better that he saw for himself. I could prove what I said but the bro couldn't. Bryan knows I hate his brother (I know, hate is a strong word but somehow dislike just doesn't cut it. lol). His bro told many lies about me and things I supposedly said about my m-i-l last year that I have nothing to do with him and refuse to speak with him unless Bryan or a reliable witness is there. Bryan and his sister feel we did the best thing possible with the situation and that is all I care about. Bryan's happy, I'm happy. We were told the funeral home went forward with the cremation and that has lifted a burden from his heart. There for a few days he did not know where his mother's body was. Now?he knows where she is, that the cremation has gone forward and that the family has the ashes. I don't see any trips to MI in the future. They sure did make Bryan mad. But I figure that will pass and he'll miss his family eventually. ? ?Take today to tell your loved ones you love them and care. tracy --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Lynn?wrote: Sometimes, Tracy, you just gotta get it out. Hope things quiet down for you all. Maybe it was better being an only child, with no one to answer to, when my mom passed away 22 years ago, come this February. Sit back, take a deep breath, and if you gotta blow again, just let 'er rip! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trish- I'm not Lynn and I don't believe that acupuncture and chiropractic are hocus-pocus but there are limits to what each can do. Most diseases have both physical and mental components and it isn't always possible to be certain that a specific treatment is the cause of an improvement in your condition. It is wonderful that there was a significant improvement for you and your friend, but it may or may not have been the result of acupuncture or chiropractic. Acupuncture could possibly trigger endorphins that help with the symptoms of asthma making you feel better temporarily -- but it wouldn't be a cure or remedy for the underlying cause of asthma itself. Asthma is partly genetic and is believed to be controlled by two genetic markers plus environmental (pollution), viral (infections), allergens, and psychological factors that trigger the condition. There wouldn't be any way that chiropractic or acupuncture could remove the root causes of asthma (you can't change your genes) and I seriously doubt they could have much of an effect on Lynn's condition either -- unless the beneficial effect was primarily psychological. I understand that you are saying as a "last ditch effort" try anything that you can and obviously people are free to choose to do that--but if money is a factor it would probably just be an unnecessary expense. I, too, have a form of asthma that is triggered by strong odors, mold, and upper respiratory infections although my condition is nowhere near as severe as Lynn's (she and I have discussed this before). The best thing I can is avoid the triggers, try to keep from getting colds and other infections and make sure I keep my immune system working its best. Her condition may well improve over time (I know mine has) but avoiding the triggers is often the best recourse. Just my opinion and two cents' worth--you don't have to agree. <g> Joan In a message dated 1/27/2009 4:03:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: have you tried chiropractic care and/or acupuncture? A friend was nearly as badly reactive as you are and finally did a last ditch effort to find *something* to help her breathing, short of living in a bubble. The acupuncture really has helped her function. I know chiropractic care has helped my asthma significantly, to the point that the mold in our sanctuary really doesn't bother me much anymore, except when I am sick or have other things that compromise my lungs. Before I went to the chiro, before I saw my friend's change from her acupuncture, I was the biggest skeptic about the seemingly "hocus pocus" of the two medicines.

They are selling dairy products.?? That is why they are happy cows.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Tracy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 4:40 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] cows and palm trees I don't watch commercials, if at all possible, so am missing out on the subject matter. Once in a while I will stop fast forward to watch the cows, but I don't know what they are selling. I think they are "the happy cows". ? tracy ? --- On Tue, 1/27/09,?Sue wrote: being from florida, cows and palm trees is a perfectly natural sight for me....lol... the 2 "favorite cow" commercials that are my personal favorites are the one with the cow and her mama ("mama, let me do it!") and the one where her younger brother keeps messing with her ("don't vote for alicia")~they crack me up... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lydia's looked like the store may have gotten them on that site, as?they were to support breast cancer.? They were more stiff than mine and looked?like the pink ones on the site.?You can contact her and?ask.?? The ones I have are heavy, unbleached cotton and got them?more than?12 years ago.? Have washed them many times and they are as good as new.??I?will keep looking for them. Gave Lydia a few but have no idea what happened to them.? I also use mine to travel with as when we go to MA to see Lydia, I fill them with food and things she can use.? That way, when we come home, I can just fold them up.? Loveya, Connie -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Vondran <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 3:12 pm Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Recycling Plastic Bags, etc. Connie, Did you go to that site that Mary sent last night? Are the bags you and Lydia have the same? Did you notice any sort of laundry smells on them, when you got them? I am really anxious to order some, but don't want to waste anymore money on getting something through the mail I can't use. Of course, others might not smell what I do, because they use strong stuff. Let me know if you smell any perfumed smells, on your bags. Hugs! Lynn Connie wrote: > Bill and I are sure doing out part.? So is out daughter in MA.? She got > pink ones from Stop and Shop in MA.? Paid for them and get money off when > she uses them.? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hmm, someone was just shot in the Comcast Building in York, three blocks away from where Mike works. So many are getting shot around here lately. Lynn

Thanks, Trish, I was wondering if you could call them for assistance in getting your account set up. I am going to take good notes, for when we go DSL, someday. I helped her order her DSL, it's the getting it set up, and all the computer stuff that I will need help with, as we get her email account set up and moving into her Windows Mail (Outlook Express the Windows way :o) ) I would ask Mike to do it, but computers are the last thing he wants to deal with when he gets home from a full day of them, at work. Thanks for the info. Hugs! Lynn Trish wrote: > Lynn, > DSL should not be all that difficult. I think they worked out a lot of the > kinks on us here > in California before releasing it to the rest of the country. Years ago I > spent HOURS on the > phone with the phone co getting it set up, fixed and corrected. It was > about > that same time > when I found out that the house we were living in had 6 phone lines coming > into it, 2 of which > were connected to neighbors home lines, accidentally. Were I not so > honest, > I suppose I could have gotten free > long distance, but that's just not honest. > > The modems seem to be marked quite well these days---IN, OUT etc. and most > of the cables > can only fit in one place or another. > > Software setup is another story, but that may be something you want to get > on the phone with the company > while doing---most are pretty good about walking you thru the process. > Don't > ask, just follow their directions > when they tell you to type in XYZ! ;-)

The benefit to chiropractic care is the release of the nerve impingements we all get from every day living. I lived for years with an impingement that caused my breathing to be more labored and my immune system to be compromised---which made the asthma I have much worse. This eval is not from a chiropractor, but my pulmonologist who did not believe in chiropractic care. Similarly, it has been explained to me that acupuncture can do similar things for the system. I don't pretend to understand it all, I have just seen the results from regular work---on myself (chiropractic care) and others using both. I suggest it because I have seen people's lives affected, such as Lynn's, to the point where living is difficult, or surgery and meds seem the only option and yet given a try at something a little less orthodox than traditional medicine, relieves symptoms and is worth a try. I do have asthma triggered by various causes---cold weather, scents, mold etc. It isn't fixed, but it is much better and I have not had an attack bad enough to put me in hospital in over a decade. As to things not being alleviated except psychologically---most of us did not start out with asthma, and obviously, many have gotten worse as we age---does that mean our genes have "gotten worse" over the years? It suggests to me that whatever we're doing in life is contributing and compounding over time. Consistently slouching can cause a curvature of the spine, that can continue to worsen if left as is. A straightening the spine can reverse that damage, with some work over time---such as the treatment for scoliosis of bracing. Chiropractic care can do similar things over time. Interestingly, other than chiropractic care, regular checkups and having asthma meds available should I have an attack, I do not spend any money on any other medical visits. I don't consider it a waste---considering I and the insurance company don't spend any other money for other treatments. I actually received a letter from the insurance company commending me for utilizing chiropractic care and decreasing their expenditure, lowering our premiums. Like I said, before I had a major back issue and was given really no other option but expensive, debilitating surgery and facing a life in a wheelchair even WITH the surgery---I too was a skeptic. I did not consider anything other than traditional medicine until a friend suggested I see his chiropractor. When it go bad enough I could hardly breathe, I went. Disturbing that without trying it, you're considering it a waste. Tell that to my gym mates who see me on the treadmill 5 mornings a week and lifting weights. I'm not suggesting chiropractic care or acupuncture can relieve all symptoms of all things. Merely suggesting that giving it a try when life is obviously SO affected every single day that one cannot go out shopping more than now and again---were I in that situation, I would want to find a solution to improve my life. If my suggestion helps someone to try something that improves their life---then I'm all for it. I hate to see people suffer if there is potentially another option. I'm not here to argue---just trying to help. T On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Trish- > > I'm not Lynn and I don't believe that acupuncture and chiropractic are > hocus-pocus but there are limits to what each can do. Most diseases have > both > physical and mental components and it isn't always possible to be certain > that a > specific treatment is the cause of an improvement in your condition. It is > wonderful that there was a significant improvement for you and your > friend, but > it may or may not have been the result of acupuncture or chiropractic. > > Acupuncture could possibly trigger endorphins that help with the symptoms > of > asthma making you feel better temporarily -- but it wouldn't be a cure or > remedy for the underlying cause of asthma itself. > > Asthma is partly genetic and is believed to be controlled by two genetic > markers plus environmental (pollution), viral (infections), allergens, and > psychological factors that trigger the condition. There wouldn't be any > way that > chiropractic or acupuncture could remove the root causes of asthma (you > can't > change your genes) and I seriously doubt they could have much of an effect > on > Lynn's condition either -- unless the beneficial effect was primarily > psychological. > > I understand that you are saying as a "last ditch effort" try anything that > you can and obviously people are free to choose to do that--but if money is > a > factor it would probably just be an unnecessary expense. > > I, too, have a form of asthma that is triggered by strong odors, mold, and > upper respiratory infections although my condition is nowhere near as > severe as > Lynn's (she and I have discussed this before). The best thing I can is > avoid > the triggers, try to keep from getting colds and other infections and make > sure I keep my immune system working its best. Her condition may well > improve > over time (I know mine has) but avoiding the triggers is often the best > recourse. > > Just my opinion and two cents' worth--you don't have to agree. <g> > > Joan > > > In a message dated 1/27/2009 4:03:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > have you tried chiropractic care and/or acupuncture? A friend was nearly > as > badly reactive as you > are and finally did a last ditch effort to find *something* to help her > breathing, short of living > in a bubble. The acupuncture really has helped her function. I know > chiropractic care has helped > my asthma significantly, to the point that the mold in our sanctuary > really > doesn't bother me > much anymore, except when I am sick or have other things that compromise > my > lungs. > > Before I went to the chiro, before I saw my friend's change from her > acupuncture, I was the > biggest skeptic about the seemingly "hocus pocus" of the two medicines. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cathy, Yes, they are really liking them. They said that they got rid of their long distance carrier, since they got them. Said it's cheaper for them. It won't be cheaper for us, to use the TracPhone, because we each make an hour long distance call each week_Mike to his parents, and me to my "Aunt" Becky. So, we would have to buy 200 minutes every week and a half. My sister-in-law just got her DSL, and will be online in a few days. I will have to figure out how to hook it up for her. I've never done this before, so I might be asking for some help, from you laptop users, once the modem and spliter get here. I read the manual, but sometimes I don't think they are speaking in English. I should have gotten a Vista Dummie book_hmm, come to think of it, I believe Mike did get me one. Guess I better go to my office and look in the corner to see exactly what he got for me. I usually read my Windows Vista book. Well, better get back to my work. Keeping an eye on you all :o) LOL!!! Hugs from warming up in Columbia!???? Maybe I'm typing too fast, and causing a heat wave in the borough :o) :o) Lynn Cathy wrote: > By the way Lynn, I'm glad to hear that your relative or friend, > likes TracPhone, I know I do. I only used mine if we're going to be out & > about, but do enjoy visiting with my friends long distance that way! But > also use a regular phone too! But I like the fact of the double minutes! > Cathy

Connie, Did you go to that site that Mary sent last night? Are the bags you and Lydia have the same? Did you notice any sort of laundry smells on them, when you got them? I am really anxious to order some, but don't want to waste anymore money on getting something through the mail I can't use. Of course, others might not smell what I do, because they use strong stuff. Let me know if you smell any perfumed smells, on your bags. Hugs! Lynn Connie wrote: > Bill and I are sure doing out part.? So is out daughter in MA.? She got > pink ones from Stop and Shop in MA.? Paid for them and get money off when > she uses them.?

Bill and I are sure doing out part.? So is out daughter in MA.? She got pink ones from Stop and Shop in MA.? Paid for them and get money off when she uses them.? Connie -----Original Message----- From: Mary Sayman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 9:41 am Subject: [PD-LIFE] Recycling Plastic Bags, etc. When my mother went in to the nursing home, I got her bag bag... it was made from a kitchen towel with elastic at the bottom and a hanger at the open top. It as purposely made to hold plastic bags. I used that thing until it was worn out. I was even using a clothes pin to keep the bottom shut because the elastic has worn out. Well.... the clothes pin would slip off and I'd end up picking up plastic bags that had fallen out all over the floor. I found a stainless steel bag box to hang on the wall, so I purchased it. I didn't really pay attention to it, but one day I looked at it and saw the 'big picture'. There were plastic bags sticking out of this box in all directions; and it looked a hundred transparent octopuses were trying to make an escape! So, I pulled every single last bag out of the box and spent 45 minutes neatly folding each and every one. My husband noticed it right away when he got home that night. There was a bag on the table from grocery shopping that day, so I demonstrated how to fold the bag so it would fit in the box. I think he's afraid of the grief he'd get if he didn't stow the bags properly, so the box has stayed nice and neat. Our local Giant store (the very first one ever built by the Akel brothers, I might add) recycles all plastic bags, not just their own. They have a box at the entrance for you to drop them in. We reused all of ours. We have a dog, so we use quite a few of them that way, not to mention when we take her with us any where. I also use them to line my bedroom and bathroom trash cans because it makes it easy to just swoop the bag out to the big garbage can in the kitchen. I keep several extras folded up in the bottom of each can so I always have a replacement. We also use them for recycling: one bag for plastic and glass; another one for paper. When full, they are easily taken down to the recycling bin in the garage. Oh, yes.... I also use them to hang the large bags of snacks up so they take up no shelf space. My cousin's sewing club recycle d plastic bags into tote bags one year. Those things were mighty strong, let me tell you! She said the hardest part was cutting the plastic bags into strips and tying them together in order to crochet with them. As with everything else they do, they donated all the bags to charitable causes. One handy tool I have to use when bringing groceries into the house in plastic bags are plastic bag handles. It is a handle designed to slip into the handles of plastic bags so you can actually carry several bags in one hand without hurting your fingers. I love mine and use them all the time. As soon as I am done with them, I put them next to/on top of my purse so I will remember to put them back in the car. It took a few lessons in remembering to put them back in the car, but it finally worked. I also have a zippered frozen foods bag that I use in the summer. They are wonderful. I do believe that progress is a necessity to keep us moving forward; but it is a double-edged sword. The more progress we make, the more things we are able to accomplish in a short period of time, but the less time we have to spend on quality things like our children and our spouses. Progress is saving thousands of trees every year - which BTW is a renewable source - by creating Styrofoam or plastic everything. But now we are paying thousands of dollars to recycle them in land fills because they are not bio-degradable, and burning Styrofoam and plastic sends toxic fumes into the air. Yes, we are making bio-degradable packing 'peanuts' out of cornstarch, but not everyone is on that bandwagon because of cost. Take a look at any office supply catalog. You will notice that a box of pencils might cost $7.00, but that a box of pencils made with 10% recycled materials is $7.50. Recycling is a wonderful thing; but it is labor-intensive, and we have to pay for it. There are still some things I believe would be best done 'the old way' - like taking tote bags made out of woven cotton, flax, or grass cloth with us to the stores. I ca n't help but wonder how many plastic bags one good-sized tote bag would replace..... hundreds? thousands? Hugs, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! Cathy, I think in this economy, the City is realizing it might just stop a lot of people from shopping, which would cut the tax base even further. I liken to it not having a shopping cart available at the market---nothing to put the groceries in, it will limit how much I can carry, limit how much I buy and limit how often I'll return to the store. We recycle the bags we get to a maximum, even putting a less than stellar bag inside another one in order to make it last longer, then putting in our recycling bin on trash day when it is no longer useful. A lot of places here stopped offering paper grocery bags with handles on them in order to push people to use plastic ones (or the cloth ones). Apparently, a number of folks have taken to asking for them to put a plastic one outside the paper one, in order to allow it to be carried, thereby, defeating the purpose of "saving a tree". I have complained loud and proud about the lack of paper bags with handles. I noticed today at the local market that they now have handled paper bags again. Yippie! Our local Trader Joe's has been offering all sorts of fun reuseable bags, encouraging folks to use them not only for shopping but other fun things. They run about 99c for basic cloth or oil-cloth type up to about $6 for a zippered insulated bag that keeps things warm or cold (not both at the same time). My problem is that I often forget to bring the bags in with me, but, I'm learning to remember! Trish On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Cathy And donald w raber < [email protected]> wrote: > Trish, > > Well, I hope they don't adopt that rule of charging for the bags. I > get allot of groceries, because I have 4 people in my family, 5 before this. > I would think that was outragious for that. I already paid for the > groceries! But agree that is great to reuse bags too! we have one grocery > store here near-by us, that does that, but don't shop there, but had a > friend shop there & she'd take a bag or two to shop. That'd be bad fro me, > because I'd have to take about 10 bags of my own at least! I mean recycling > them is enough isnt' it? I think so at least! > Its all very interesting hearing what other places, states do with > everyday things though! Ya never know what will catch on! I mean to a > certain extent, i like paper bags because they are allot easier to carry & > would carry more, & won't break & are reusable too! We have too much of a > throw away society nowadays! > By the way Lynn, I'm glad to hear that your relative or friend, likes > TracPhone, I know I do. I only used mine if we're going to be out & about, > but do enjoy visiting with my friends long distance that way! But also use a > regular phone too! But I like the fact of the double minutes! Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trish" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [PD-LIFE] Hmmmmm Cotton Bags! > > I'm sitting here half wondering how far out some of you live from > town...then realize, I'm in Nor Cal, where we're on the cutting edge of a > lot of things. Technology is a big one. The other is green living. Ergo, we > have had reusable shopping bags for years. Nearly every little shop offers > a > reusable bag of some sort, most offer a discount, rebate, or offer of a > drawing for a give-away if you use your own bags. The City of San Francisco > has been threatening to have stores CHARGE 25c for EACH bag to put your > purchases into. I would really dislike seeing the bill for a big shopping > trip to the market! One day I came home with 20 bags---it would be $5, just > to take home my groceries? Makes m e want to not shop so much, at least in > SF. Good news is I'm not there. > > We have been reusing the plastic or paper bags from stores for as long as I > can recall. I used to watch my Grand-daddy fold up the bags after a > shopping > trip and store them in the closet. It amazed me, until I realized about > non-renewable, or less-renewable resources. > > The one thing I can say is---I have never had a reusable bag break, tear, > rip or split on me and they have hundreds of other uses---holding choir > books.... > > Trish > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Lynn Vondran <lynnvon[email protected]> wrote: > > > WOW! That's a GREAT site, Mary! > > Thanks! > > Hugs! > > Lynn > > PS Have to get off for the night. Have wash to get finished yet. Have > a > > GREAT night everyone, and a good day tomorrow_don't know how much I will > be > > able to be on this week. > > Mary wrote: > > > Lynn, > > > Check out this site: > > > http://www.papermart.com/Index/index_retail_bag_reusable.htm > > > There are many more on line if you just type in 'cloth shopping bags' > or > > > 'reusable shopping bags'. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To un subscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List,    I was just flipping through my new Woman's World mag and there is an article for green bags. -for groceries: onebagatatime.com (10 for $15.99) will fit 2 plastic bags worth of stuff in one.   -for clothing and misc: envirosax.com ($8.50 each) pillow size, foldable for your purse.   I just thought about trying to make my own bag. I have dozens and dozens of pairs of jeans from my hubby (he won't wear if they get the quarter-sized holes where his chubby? thighs rub?). I guess I'll just cut as much "straight" material out of legs and sew it up. I had thought of making a comforter or curtains out of the material. Good sturdy stuff.   tracy

Hi List,    Things have quieted down here. I guess it was Saturday night when Bryan spoke with his sister in OH, and the MI family called her, that things got really nasty. Bryan now realizes that his brother was making trouble and lying to him. Lord only knows what was said about me (nothing polite I'm sure!) but I don't care. I only care about my hubby and his feelings. Things were rough for me as I could see the lies but didn't want to "force" Bryan to see it. It was better that he saw for himself. I could prove what I said but the bro couldn't. Bryan knows I hate his brother (I know, hate is a strong word but somehow dislike just doesn't cut it. lol). His bro told many lies about me and things I supposedly said about my m-i-l last year that I have nothing to do with him and refuse to speak with him unless Bryan or a reliable witness is there. Bryan and his sister feel we did the best thing possible with the situation and that is all I care about. Bryan's happy, I'm happy. We were told the funeral home went forward with the cremation and that has lifted a burden from his heart. There for a few days he did not know where his mother's body was. Now he knows where she is, that the cremation has gone forward and that the family has the ashes. I don't see any trips to MI in the future. They sure did make Bryan mad. But I figure that will pass and he'll miss his family eventually.    Take today to tell your loved ones you love them and care. tracy --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Lynn wrote: Sometimes, Tracy, you just gotta get it out. Hope things quiet down for you all. Maybe it was better being an only child, with no one to answer to, when my mom passed away 22 years ago, come this February. Sit back, take a deep breath, and if you gotta blow again, just let 'er rip!

Yes, Linnea and Pat, I did knit a little after that. In fact a whole lot. I made one of those 60s vests_some of you might know what I'm talking about. You drop stitches to make big holes in it all the way through? They were really popular back then. I might even still have it in the attic somewhere. Lindsey even wore it for a while, about 20 years after I did. I crocheted Lindsey's baby blanket and still have it up in the attic. I actually crocheted two afghans, the two days I was in the hospital when I had Lindsey. About 18 years ago, I almost knitted a whole sweater. It was really pretty, with a twisted-cable knit center, and v-neck, but had to stop because of my pinched nerves in my back. My arms fall asleep at night, every night, and I have to turn constantly to keep them awake. It's not carpal tunnel, it's pinched nerves behind my wings, and messed up shoulders and knees, from stopping sports too quickly, and all at one time, when I was in my early 20s. Had to go to sports therapy, in my early 30s, for it, to learn some exercises to strengthen what I messed up by suddenly stopping everything so suddenly. That's what they told me in therapy, anyway. Got it all back into shape again, by lifting weights, to strengthen both knees and shoulders, too. Then, when we moved in here, 19 years ago, and I tried to get the attic floor spotless, I did it in again. When I look at that 5 foot by 5 foot section that pinched that nerve for good, I think to myself, "Why dya do it, dummy!" Mike said I attack my work. Guess I always did. I could still crochet, and I made Lindsey a really pretty bed spread, which she still has. I made that in the early 90s, when my foot came off the bottom of my leg, and I had to stay on the couch for 2 full weeks. That was the longest I ever sat still_but don't tell Mike that I went out and shoveled snow, while he was at work, so that I could feed my squirrels and birds. It was covered back up by the time he got home. WE had a lot of snow that year. Anyway, I have all those crazy, funny stories from then. Mike is right, I don't sit still, and then pay for it with all the pain I inflict on myself, from my LUCY moments. That's why I told Becky to be CAREful :o) Back to the knitting and crocheting. I recently gave most all my yarn to my father-in-law, and he crocheted me a beautiful afghan with much of what was left, but I have a few boxes of yarn in the middle room upstairs, for when I have time to use my knitting thingy_can't remember what they were called. It was back in the late 70s, early 80s that I bought this thing, where you put the yarn around these little pegs, and turn the crank to make small pillow button type things. You sew them together to make different things like bed spreads, scarves, etc. Rats, anyone remember what they were called. Then there are those things you wind the yarn around to make many little flowers to sew together_and Lindsey's Grandpa Hudock gave me his round loom to make hats and scarves. It's just finding time to do all this. Yes, that takes patience for me, with the crocheting or knitting_still can't knit a bootie. I really just admire you ladies who can do the beautiful little things with the yarn. I just got laughing butterflies when I think of cleaning the attic, and I am sitting here laughing to myself of that day. I stopped cleaning the floor, and decided to do the window frames. Well, my fear of heights, and being up on the ladder when Bach's famous da, da, da, daaaaaaaa...da, da, da, daaaaaaaa came out of my boom box loud and clear, and a storm rolled in like you wouldn't believe, cracking a huge sound of thunder, all at the same time, with me in this big old empty house alone_and with the doors unlocked downstairs_I grabbed the window frames, and froze on the top of the ladder. Guess what! Those hand marks are still up there_never did get to finish cleaning that frame :o) Just had to laugh at that. Wonder if I will ever get through all the junk in this house, before I'm too old to do it? Better keep moving on my photo project. Just needed a break. Need lots of breaks or I go cross-eyed! Gotta get moving again. Hugs! Lynn Linnea wrote: > Oh, you're funny, Lynn. My Swedish grandmother taught me to knit and > I finally attempted my own sweater at about age 12; it actually fit!! > Sewing machines and I do not get along, so in 8th grade Home Ec I > talked my teacher into allowing me to knit a sweater. Reluctantly, > she agreed but told me she couldn't help me if I needed to ask her > anything. Mom couldn't help, either and Grammy was a few hundred > miles away. I forget how any times I ripped rows out when I saw a > mistake. It was a three-color horizontal striped cardigan - green, > blue and small white stripe with a purl row in the middle for > "style". I wore it for years! All the other needle arts I learned by > following the directions. You do need a lot of patience, though!!

I remembered the plastic stuff that came with the blender I have now, when I gave it to my mom, it really, really smelled from those containers. She never did use them, and I threw them away when I inherited the blender. This is really good to know about the Magic Bullets!!! Someday we'll have to get one of those. I think they are very interesting and can make for really good experiments in the kitchen! Did they come with recipes? Did I remember reading that? Hugs! Lynn Mary wrote: > Mine didn't have any smell either. I'd smell it, too. I am also very > sensitive to odors...... PeeeeeYewwwww! Don in AZ wrote: > mine didn't have any smell. Mine is not the original brand so > it doesn't have all the extra's, just two jars and lids and one > cutter, but it meets my needs.

Well, I'm glad you are getting it, and not us, since you want it so much :o) You have a good time with it! Aren't those pups so cute when they play in the snow! So are the kids, don't get me wrong, but I love to watch horses, and dogs romping in a field, or big yard. Have to uncover Lexus. She has herself buried too much under all her comforters, and I can hear her breathing heavily. Silly puppygirl! Hugs! Lynn Becky wrote: (Big smile) We are under a winter weather warning. They say 10 inches of snow by noon tomorrow. I hope so. I'd like to get caught up on the homework and it's funny to watch my son Aaron (who doesn't believe shoes should be tied) tromp around the backyard with the grandkids and the dogs. Goober looks like a small pony galloping across the back yard.

LOL!!!!! Thanks for the idea Mary. I did use a basket when I went to market, but for all the baskets we would need, when we go shopping, we'd need a uhaul to bring them home :o) Oh, now wait! You meant the woven grass bags? No, can't use them. I can't take the hay/straw at times, when I am exposed to the other things, and can't shop without being exposed to the other stuff. It's getting colder again, and we are in for some wintery mix. Was outside shoveling and sweeping most of the morning. Didn't get to do my vacuuming again! Hope I can do it before Sunday. I didn't get to do it last week, because of all the stuff we had to do, having visiters, and all the exposures I had_but I HAVE to get it done this week! I usually do it twice a week, but when I get hit up, and have all that extra wash to do, I can't take the vacuuming. I also can't do it when we get company, or sometimes I can't take our company :o) UGH!!!!!! Guess we better start looking into a new vac, really soon. We were thinking of getting that Eureka Pet Lovers Vacuum that our daughter and her boyfriend were raving about at Christmas, but I want to look into more of them, before making that purchase. I really like my Sharp we bought years ago, but it has seen its days. Have to get moving now. Gotta get to my photo project today! Awww John Updike died. I believe he was from the Reading area? or Mohnton, outside of Reading? Oh, did I tell everyone what I found at Darrenkamp's!? Not only Hersheys Teaberry Ice Cream, but also Wixon's Shoofly Pie!!!!!! BUT, they didn't have a good wet bottom one there, when we were there :o( I WILL keep my eyes open for one of those! Hugs! :o) Lynn Mary wrote: >I LOVE baskets. I have some very old ones that my m. grandmother had. >They > are prettily patterned. I remember making a basket in school, too. Just > a > little one. > Now that I think about it, I have seen totes made from woven grass cloth. > That might be an idea for Lynn to use if she could put up with the 'hay' > smell they give off > until they have been around a while. I have heard of the Blue Birds, but > was only in Brownies one year. We lived so far out in the country that it > was very inconvenient > for my mother to take me, then come back and get me. I didn't mind not > going though. I would rather be home on the farm where I could traipse > through the woods.