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    1. Quaker Disownment for Marriages (was Re: Old Swedes Church)
    2. In a message dated 11/17/02 5:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I have a Quaker ancestor recorded married there in 1731, who was promptly > Just as a reminder, Friends who married out of meeting (meaning to a nonFriend) or contrary to discipline (that is, either to someone too closely related or to another Friend but not under the care of Friends) were first disciplined. Sometimes disownment came quickly, especially if the Friend decided that he or she was no longer interested in membership in the Society of Friends. In other cases, months, even years, could go by before the matter was settled. If the Friend made acknowledgment, he or she was continue in membership. If acknowledgement was not made, the individual was disowned (not the same thing as being shunned) but always had the right to appeal the decision. Disowned Friends could still attend meeting for worship and be buried in their meeting's burial ground, but they were not entitled to financial or spiritual support from the Monthly Meeting and were not permitted to participate in decision making within the Monthly Meeting. Some disowned Friends made acknowledgement years after the marriage, sometimes after the spouse died. Always check through the records to see if a once-disowned Friend was later reinstated. Karen Greim Mullian [email protected]

    11/17/2002 11:25:45
    1. Old Swedes Church
    2. In responce to Mary Jefferson, Old Swedes Church is in Wilmington, Delaware, now called Trinity Church, I believe. They have a website. The church was originated by the Swedes in the 17th century, but many denominations married there. Marriage records are available, but a bit steep in price. I have a Quaker ancestor recorded married there in 1731, who was promptly disowned by the Friends. As far as what religion they would be, where they came from would probably give you a clue. Bob Cooke

    11/17/2002 10:50:51
    1. 4904 Woodland Ave Drexel Hill
    2. I am looking for information on a school which was located at 4904 Woodland Ave. I got this address from an Upper Darby Year book 1939 address under the picture. I have no idea what type of "school" this was (reform school, detention center or...) I know it was in operation until the 60's. I went to a reunion or fair that was held there early 60's, it may have been late 50's. They had a dairy, I don't know if it was connected to WaWa Dairies or if they sold milk to WaWa. The students who stayed at this location went to Upper Darby High School. A Ms. Morrison was one of the "over seer's" of this school. I would like to know if there are records for this school and more information on the type of school. I apologize to those receiving this post more than once. Thanks Barbara in Louisiana email: [email protected]

    11/17/2002 07:09:16
    1. Re: Old Swedes, Phila.
    2. Debbie
    3. On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 05:00 AM, PADELAWA-D- [email protected] wrote: > #3 Re: Cemeteries Upper Darby or Phil ["Mary Jefferson" > <[email protected]] > Now for another question. James and Rose (Kearns) > Pyott were married in 1772 in Old Swede's Church in Philadelphia. > (After > that they are recorded as living in Upper Darby.) What religion would > they > be? http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_sweden.html "...For more than four centuries, to be Swedish was to be Lutheran. Every newborn here was automatically registered as a member of the Church of Sweden, the official Lutheran denomination...." http://www.colonialswedes.org/Churches/GloDei.html Gloria Dei (Old Swedes') Church, Philadelphia "...Gloria Dei was also the site of the first regular Lutheran ordination in the Western hemisphere..." http://www.nps.gov/glde/ Gloria Dei Church Gloria Dei (Old Swedes') Church was built between 1698 - 1700 and is the oldest church in Pennsylvania. The Swedes preceded the English to this part of America, arriving here in 1646. For nearly two centuries, this church was a mission of the Church of Sweden. As Swedes were absorbed into the general American population, Gloria Dei became English speaking and was admitted into the Episcopal church in 1845.

    11/17/2002 03:11:37
    1. Re: Delaware County Petition Books for Naturalization
    2. John Trout
    3. Hi, Would these Naturalization Petitions, located the the DELAWARE COUNTY COURT HOUSE have years 1847 through 1860? I have family that came over somwhere between those years and lived in Chester and Aston. Thanks for any information you can give me? Edna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Atkinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Delaware County Petition Books for Naturalization > I am looking for assistance in searching the Naturalization Petitions > located at the DELAWARE COUNTY COURT HOUSE (Front & Orange Streets, > Media, PA). > > I would be very pleased to pay for a local researcher to go to the Court > House and photocopy (if located) the relevant documents (Certificate of > Arrival, Declaration of Intention and Petition of Naturalization) as I > would like to have them sooner than it will take them to respond by > mail. > > Please e-mail me directly and we can discuss names and dates. > > > Best Regards, > Nancy Atkinson > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== PADELAWA Mailing List ==== > >

    11/16/2002 02:33:08
    1. Re: Delaware County Petition Books for Naturalization
    2. Cathy Berger
    3. If you get an answer will you let me know. I have a deed which I need someone to check for me, and I'm willing to pay for the service. I've tried everything else to get the info from the courthouse without success. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Atkinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Delaware County Petition Books for Naturalization > I am looking for assistance in searching the Naturalization Petitions > located at the DELAWARE COUNTY COURT HOUSE (Front & Orange Streets, > Media, PA). > > I would be very pleased to pay for a local researcher to go to the Court > House and photocopy (if located) the relevant documents (Certificate of > Arrival, Declaration of Intention and Petition of Naturalization) as I > would like to have them sooner than it will take them to respond by > mail. > > Please e-mail me directly and we can discuss names and dates. > > > Best Regards, > Nancy Atkinson > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== PADELAWA Mailing List ==== > > >

    11/16/2002 12:12:21
    1. No Luck at the Court House Today, Any Help would be greatly welcomed!
    2. Esther Fetsko
    3. TGIF, huh Lister's? I hope everyone is having a wonderful day, try to savor the wonderful wheather this fine November 15th! Amazing. I just came back from the DCCourt House looking for my ancestor's under the Wills and Marriages microfiche. Nothing, absolutley Nothing!!!!!! Where are these people? This brick wall you could expect if I didn't live in the area, but they lived and breathed right here in Middletown, Edgmont, Media and Nether Providence and I still can't find them. What's my problem. I've searched all kinds of records on Ancestor.com and I can only find them on the census, but I haven't found anything at the Delaware County Historical Center or anywhere else. The only thing I haven't searched is the Quaker Records,except what I have seen with the Asmead Records. I even backed it up a few generations and tried to find my great grandfather and his wife from 1907-1910 marriage when I went to the courthouse, which is more recent and still couldn't find anything. I'm on Baker and Sharp subscription lists and still nothing,Help! If my Daniel Baker and his wife Tamar/Tamor Sharp,who were married in 1857 lived here in Middletown as of the 1880 census with mother-inlaw, where did they go? The info I have below is all I have to go on, can anyone suggest another trick to poke these member's out of their secrete hiding place? Esther December 30, 1857 DELAWARE COUNTY AMERICAN Marriage: On the 19th inst., at the Parsonage of the M.E. Church, West Chester, by the Rev. M.D. Kurtz, Mr. Daniel BAKER of Delaware County, to MISS TAMOR SHARP, of Willistown, Chester County. August 6, 1862 DELAWARE COUNTY AMERICAN CAPT. YARNALL'S COMPANY. -ROLL OF GIDEON'S BAND. N.L. Yarnall, Wm. Yarnall, Brinton J. Heybern, Stephen M. Blazier, Thomas Fields, Anderson Fielding, E. Watson, Wm. Y. Esbin, Silas Baker, Sam. H. Palmer, Dan. B. Baker. [CW] The Baker's and Yarnall's are connected by marriage. 1880 PA Census, Middletown, Delaware County, PA DANIEL BAKER, 49/M, Farm Laborer, b. PA, father PA, mother PA TAMOR Baker, 42/F, Keeping house, b. PA, father PA, mother PA (sister:Abigal m.Edward Yarnall) John M. Sarah E. Henry C. Margaret H. SAMUEL G. William B. Mary A. SUSAN SHARP, MOTHER, 63/F, b. PA, father PA, mother PA

    11/16/2002 08:39:25
    1. Delaware County Petition Books for Naturalization
    2. Nancy Atkinson
    3. I am looking for assistance in searching the Naturalization Petitions located at the DELAWARE COUNTY COURT HOUSE (Front & Orange Streets, Media, PA). I would be very pleased to pay for a local researcher to go to the Court House and photocopy (if located) the relevant documents (Certificate of Arrival, Declaration of Intention and Petition of Naturalization) as I would like to have them sooner than it will take them to respond by mail. Please e-mail me directly and we can discuss names and dates. Best Regards, Nancy Atkinson [email protected]

    11/16/2002 08:17:08
    1. French/Indian War: Officers & Soldiers in the Service of PA, 1744-1765
    2. Debbie
    3. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/schuylkill/military/french/french. txt Military: French and Indian War: Officers and Soldiers in the Service of the Province of Pennsylvania, 1744-1765 Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by Ann Rickard. Source: Pennsylvania Archives, Fifth Series, Vol. 1 titled, "Officers and Soldiers in the Service of the Province of Pennsylvania, 1744-1765." "A RETURN OF RICHARD GARDINER'S COMP'Y BELONGING TO THE PENN'A REGIMENTS, COMMANDED BY THE HONOURABLE WILLIAM DENNY, ESQUIRE," 1749. [Name, Age, where born, date of enlistment and occupation.] ALDEVEY, Jacob, 19, Penn'a, May 18, carpenter. ATCHINSON, James, 22, Del., May 26, butcher. BECKLEY, William, 30, Penn'a, May 15, cooper. BEMBROOK, William, 45, Ir., May 9, lab. BOWMAN, Samuel, 18, Penn'a, May 12, cordwainer. COLEMAN, Conrad, 33, Ger., May 7, lab. COX, Jacob, 38, Penn'a, May 18, lab. DAVIS, Thomas, 23, New Eng., May 15, lab. EVANS, David, 25, Penn'a, May 3, lab. FAIRES, Daniel, 24, Ir., May 8, lab. FARB, Casper, 23, Ger., May 13, lab. FINLEY, John, 22, Scot., May 6, lab. FOX, Jacob, 20, Penn'a, May 4, lab. GILL, James, 35, Eng., May 4, cooper. GLEN [GLIN], Thomas, 30., Penn'a, May 9, lab. HELA, Lodowick, 30, Ger., May 14, physician HENDERSON, John, 18, Penn'a, May 14, cordwainer. HOLLOWAY, John, 19, Penn'a, May 2, lab. HUNTER, James, 21, Ir., May 4, lab. HUSK, Thomas, 30, Scot., May 10, drummer. JEFFREYS, William, 22, Penn'a, May 2, lab. KRITH, James, 30, Eng., May 9, baker. KRITH, James, 30, Scot., May 5, gentleman. LANG, Josh, 35, Eng., May 16, mariner. LAURENCE, Edward, 34, Penn'a, May 15, lab. LESTER, Thomas, 29, New Eng., May 20, mariner. MAYBE, Edward, 30., Eng., May 29, lab. MILLS, Daniel, 40, Eng., May 2, lab. MONROE, Rowland, 48, Penn'a, May 11, sail-maker. MOORE, George, 20, Penn'a, May 12, mason. NEAL, Lewis, 30, Switz., May 25, lab. O'BRIEN, Daniel, 40, Ir., May 28, tailor. PETERS, John, 26, Penn'a, May 17, lab. PARVOUR, Peter, 22, Penn'a, May 3, lab. POWELL [POWVELL], June 5. ROAKE, Andrew, Ir., May 6, cooper. SEIBERT, John, 40, Ger., May 13, lab. SPILLANDER, John, 26, Swed., May 9, mariner. SAX, Martin, 19, Ger., May 5, lab. STONE, John, 22, Eng., May 14, mariner. THOMAS, Phineas, 21, Penn'a., May 9., mason. THOMPSON, John, 33, Ger., May 7, lab. WHITEHEAD, John., Penn'a., May 1, carpenter. WILLSON, David, Eng., May 8, lab. YENLE, Hendry, 19, Penn'a., May 1, lab. YOUNG [YUNGE], Jacob, 25, Ger., May 29.

    11/16/2002 07:45:23
    1. Re: Cemeteries Upper Darby or Philadelphia?
    2. Mary Jefferson
    3. Thanks for your help everyone. You've given me a couple of leads to follow up on for cemeteries. Now for another question. James and Rose (Kearns) Pyott were married in 1772 in Old Swede's Church in Philadelphia. (After that they are recorded as living in Upper Darby.) What religion would they be? I've looked the church up on various websites, but can't put my finger on it. Then I read that sometimes Quakers who were marrying outside the fold would get married in that church, but I can't find any record of either of them in the Quaker records. Thanks, Mary

    11/16/2002 07:26:10
    1. Re: Cemeteries
    2. Cathy Berger
    3. Just to mess you up further!!! First I thought you should look at Chester Co. But then I remembered that my Gt Gt grandfather died in 1804, having lived in Upper Darby, and he is buried in Blockley Baptist Church Cem in now Philadelphia! It was just across the line from Upper Darby! And I only know that he was buried there because a genealogist was walking down the street years ago and saw workmen loading tombstones on a truck from a cemetery. He asked what they were doing and got permission to copy a lot of the names and dates before they got hauled away and the cemetery became a parking lot or something! My John Tyson, his wife and his daughter were recorded. Praise the Lord. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Jefferson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: Cemeteries > Several months ago, when I was in town, I went to the Delaware County > Historical society to try to find some information. I pored over all of the > cemetery books there but found no record at all of the ancestors I was > looking for. Unfortunately, I don't know what religion they were - that was > one of the things I was hoping to find out. Apparently I'm going to have to > expand my search outside of the county. Since I don't live in the area, I'm > not familiar enough to be able to guess where to start looking. Does anyone > have any idea where else someone living in Upper Darby might have been > buried? The name I'm looking for is Pyott. James Pyott who died in 1825, > his wife Rose who died in 1832, and Richard Pyott who died around 1872. > > Thanks, > Mary > > > ==== PADELAWA Mailing List ==== > > >

    11/16/2002 02:20:45
    1. Upper Darby Cemetery
    2. I believe the Fernwood Cemetery is also a good bet for individuals living in Upper Darby. If you have not already done so, check this website which lists Philadelphia Area cemeteries. <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/8088/cem.html">http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/8088/cem.html</A> Karen in PA

    11/16/2002 12:36:31
    1. Re: Cemeteries Upper Darby or Philadelphia?
    2. Hi Mary, Have you tried the following library? UPPER DARBY SELLER’S LIBRARY 76 S. State Street Upper Darby, PA 19082 Genealogical collection (books & maps) Have you found the PYOTT Family in the Federal Census Records in 1830 & before? Are they living in the Upper Darby area? In the past, I have found many family genealogist looking to find where their family members from Upper Darby are buried -- most often it is in the Philadelphia area or other surrounding counties. The following society should be of some help to you: The Historical Society of Pennsylvania (HSP) (215) 732-6200 <A HREF="http://www.hsp.org/">PA Historical Society of Pennsylvania</A> http://www.hsp.org/ The Genealogical Society Of Pennsylvania (GSP) (215) 545-0391 <A HREF="http://www.libertynet.org/~gspa/">PA Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania</A> http://www.libertynet.org/~gspa/ Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) In a message dated 11/16/2 1:37:38 AM, [email protected] writes: << Several months ago, when I was in town, I went to the Delaware County Historical society to try to find some information. I pored over all of the cemetery books there but found no record at all of the ancestors I was looking for. Unfortunately, I don't know what religion they were - that was one of the things I was hoping to find out. Apparently I'm going to have to expand my search outside of the county. Since I don't live in the area, I'm not familiar enough to be able to guess where to start looking. Does anyone have any idea where else someone living in Upper Darby might have been buried? The name I'm looking for is Pyott. James Pyott who died in 1825, his wife Rose who died in 1832, and Richard Pyott who died around 1872. Thanks, Mary >>

    11/15/2002 03:17:35
    1. Cemeteries
    2. Mary Jefferson
    3. Several months ago, when I was in town, I went to the Delaware County Historical society to try to find some information. I pored over all of the cemetery books there but found no record at all of the ancestors I was looking for. Unfortunately, I don't know what religion they were - that was one of the things I was hoping to find out. Apparently I'm going to have to expand my search outside of the county. Since I don't live in the area, I'm not familiar enough to be able to guess where to start looking. Does anyone have any idea where else someone living in Upper Darby might have been buried? The name I'm looking for is Pyott. James Pyott who died in 1825, his wife Rose who died in 1832, and Richard Pyott who died around 1872. Thanks, Mary

    11/15/2002 12:47:32
    1. Taxed Residents of Upland in 1678 (at that time part of Chester Co.) PA
    2. Debbie
    3. Taxed Residents of Upland in 1678 Claes Schram Robbert Waede Jan Hendriex Rich: Bobbington james Sanderling and slave John Test and servant Jurien Kien Rich: Noble Nells Laerson and son Henry Hastings Will; Woodman and servent John Hayles Mich: Yzard Marr: Jukk (Marcus Hook) Jan Jansen Will: Orian Daniell Linsey Morton Knoctsen Knoet Mortensen\ Albert Hendriex Oele Cocckoe Carell Jansen Oele Raessen Thom: Denny John Browne Rich: Federiex Hans Oelsen Tho: Harwood Jurian Hertsveder Andries Ihnckhoorrn Rodger PEdrick cristaen Claassen Jacob Cocker Eastern Shoure Oele Dircks Will Bromfield Lace Colman Hans Hoffman and his 2 sons Peter Freeman Moens Junsen Poull Corvorn Att Carkoens Hoek Andried Homman and son Pelle Erickson Benck Salihg Andries SAling Laers Boer Hans Peters Pelle Puttke Harmaen Jansen Hendrick Holman Calkoens Hoek Mort Mortenson, junior Retell Laersen Moens Staeckett Hans Jurian Hendrik Tade Andries Bertelson Jan ertelson Jan corneliss and son Mort. Mortense, Senior Lace Mortense Neels Matson Anthony Matson Hendrick Jacobs Jacob Hendriex Att Taokanink (Tacony) Oele Neelson and 2 sons Hans Moens Erick Poulsen Christiaen Thomasse Casper Fisck Peter Jokumm and servt Hans Jurian Michill Fredericks Justa Daniels and servant Johan Juriaensen Hend; Jacobs Erick Cock and sevt. Moens Cock Peter Nealson Gunnar RAmbo lace Cock and servant Michill Nealson Andris Swen and father Oele Swensen his servant Swen Swensen and son John Stille Swen Lom Oele Stille Andries Benckes Jan Mattson Dunck Williams Tho: Jacobs Jan Claassen and 2 sons Franck Walcker Will Thomasse Peter Matson Jan Boelsen Jan Schoeten Jan Justa and 2 sons Peter Andries and son Lace Dalbo Rynier Peterrssen Oele Dalbdoe Andries Boen Swen Boen Pelle RAmbo, Junior Andries Rambo Richard Duckett Mr. Jones ye hatter Joseph PEters Jan Cock Peter Cock, Jr Harmen Ennis Arian Andries at Peter Ramboos

    11/15/2002 06:30:24
    1. steel mill sites
    2. Culbertson, Tina
    3. Thanks so much to everyone who responded to my query about the rolling steel mill. SKS sent me this link below that is quite informative regarding locations of mills in PA. Hope someone can use this! http://paironworks.virtualave.net/indexpa.html

    11/14/2002 03:41:12
    1. Re: Rolling Steel Mill
    2. Bob Carter
    3. If I'm not mistaken, rolling steel is "sheet" steel that is produced in huge "rolls", hence the name. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Culbertson, Tina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Rolling Steel Mill > Hello List. Has anyone ever heard of the Rolling Steel Mill? > A just received a death certificate and it states occupation > as "foreman Rolling Steel Mill." > > Does anyone know where this mill is (or was) located? > > Tina > > > ==== PADELAWA Mailing List ==== > > >

    11/13/2002 01:50:18
    1. Re: Rolling Steel Mill
    2. John E. Elliott
    3. More likely a generic term rather than a specific mill. A steel rolling mill heats and flattens ingots into coils of flat steel of desired thickness (gauge). John E. Elliott Broadcast live from the banks of the chilly Shenango ----- Original Message ----- From: "Culbertson, Tina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Rolling Steel Mill > Hello List. Has anyone ever heard of the Rolling Steel Mill? > A just received a death certificate and it states occupation > as "foreman Rolling Steel Mill." > > Does anyone know where this mill is (or was) located? > > Tina > > > ==== PADELAWA Mailing List ==== > >

    11/13/2002 07:30:47
    1. need some help with legwork
    2. if anyone will be traveling to the Delaware County Historical Society at any time soon would it be ok if I asked a favor, A small look up in an old phone book for an address is all I need. Please help if you would. thanks renee

    11/13/2002 05:15:22
    1. Rolling Steel Mill
    2. Culbertson, Tina
    3. Hello List. Has anyone ever heard of the Rolling Steel Mill? A just received a death certificate and it states occupation as "foreman Rolling Steel Mill." Does anyone know where this mill is (or was) located? Tina

    11/13/2002 03:58:01