In a message dated 4/16/2004 9:05:28 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: David Smink 12/13/1835-7/4/1895 wife Emile Helt, 5/4/1846-1/27/1916. hope this is what you want?? Bill That is what I have, however a number of census records indicate 1835 could be wrong. Roger